The cost of a regular human being

[gorman]

I seem to remember, from a long time ago, to have read somewhere a detailed analysis about how many points would be needed to create the starting point of Hero's character creation (movement, 10 in all primary, can see, can hear, can manipulate, and so on and so forth). Am I dreaming this or it did get published somewhere?

[nblade]

I don't think I ever heard of that. I'm sure someone worked it up. Of course I'm guessing the assumption was that everything started out as zero. It would be pretty easy to work up from there. As a rought guess I'm thinking somewhere around the 140pt mark.

[Xandarr]

149, actually.

Name: My Hero, Zero

Val Char Cost
0 STR -10
0 DEX -30
0 CON -20
0 BODY -20
0 INT -10
0 EGO -20
0 PRE -10
0 COM -5
0 PD 0
0 ED 0
0 SPD -10
0 REC 0
0 END 0
0 STUN 0

Characteristic Rolls: STR: 9-, DEX: 9-, CON: 9-, INT: 9-, EGO: 9-, PER: 9-
Run: 0", Swim: 0", Jump: 0", Lift: 25kg

Cost Powers END/Roll
-12 Running (-6", Total = 0", NC: 0")
-2 Swimming (-2", Total = 0", NC: 0")

OCV: 0; DCV: 0; ECV: 0; Mental Def.: 0; Phases: None
PD/rPD: 0/0; ED/rED: 0/0

Costs: Char.: -135
Powers: -14
Total: = -149


Kinda cool, eh?
Steve

[Mutant for Hire]

You're missing senses and limbs.

[JmOz]

Actualy a little more, a rarely remembered option is to sell back everyman skills at 1 point each

[Zaratustra]

5th states the normal senses cost 25+20+5+5=55 points. Actually, they cost a bit more if you build them from scratch, but we'll just pretend now.
Also, you're assuming STR 0, etc. are the bottom line; I believe they go to -30 or below.

[AlHazred]

Originally posted by Mutant for Hire
You're missing senses and limbs.

Not even the most munchkiny, cheese-weasel, no-talent ass-clown player I've ever seen would think he could get away with selling back his limbs...


Originally posted by JmOz
Actualy a little more, a rarely remembered option is to sell back everyman skills at 1 point each

I don't remember that option. Is that a house rule, or is it in FREd?


Originally posted by Zaratustra
Actually, [normal senses] cost a bit more if you build them from scratch, but we'll just pretend now.

Actually, you're supposed to use the given 55 point cost, at least according to Steve's sidebar.

[Agent Escafarc]

Originally posted by AlHazred

I don't remember that option. Is that a house rule, or is it in FREd?


Look under Everyman Skills (FRED page 29) second paragraph, last sentence.

[Zaratustra]

Actually, you're supposed to use the given 55 point cost, at least according to Steve's sidebar.

There is an entire chapter named 'Toolkitting' that says I am not supposed to do anything. :)

[Arkham]

Ahh, but how about the point cost of a normal
person's stuff? How many points would it be for
every flashlight, lightbulb, television and phone
in an average house?

How about an average commuter car, there is at least
another few points. And a bookshelf! It is, after all,
just a computer without programs, and with the 'extra
time' limitation...

And if we're selling back stats, you _know_ reproductive
organs are worth some points as a very limited Summon
with Extra Time and IAF ( ask a guy raised with a
sister ( Unless you don't wear pants, then it is OAF ) )...

I need more coffee, this is too silly.

[keithcurtis]

Originally posted by Arkham
Ahh, but how about the point cost of a normal
person's stuff? How many points would it be for
every flashlight, lightbulb, television and phone
in an average house?

How about an average commuter car, there is at least
another few points. And a bookshelf! It is, after all,
just a computer without programs, and with the 'extra
time' limitation...

The Average Human™ is not a superhero, and therefor has to pay money for equipment, not points.

Keith "Just sayin' is all" Curtis

[BasilDrag]

Originally posted by Arkham
<snip>
And a bookshelf! It is, after all,
just a computer without programs, and with the 'extra
time' limitation...

"A bookshelf is a computer....."
::Sigh:: Somehow, this makes me feel old.



this is too silly.

That I'll agree with. ;)

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