Help Construct-A-Villain: Pictures

[Blue]

Those of you who have been participating in the "Construct-A-Villain" polling series are familiar with the facts: We've voted on aspects of a character and now have a goodly portion of the background. But we still have to consider a LOOK for the chracter.

I would like to invite any willing artists to submit any suggestions for costumes here to this thread. Ultimately I will take the best in the next few days and post them in (wait for it...)...Yet Another poll.

OUR VILLAIN: Female, Former Super-Patriot, Can manipulate gizmos (electronic and mechanical) to shut them down. Name is pending (should be available in poll 1.6 within about 20 minutes).

Costume doesnt' necessarily have to be patriotic (or mock-patriotic for that matter), but it couldn't hurt.

[Blue]

First one (Made on my lunch hour using Albert Deschene's templates)

<img src="http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=222260">

[Blue]

Sort of a BEFORE/AFTER Thing going here. This would be the BEFORE...

<img src="http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=222263">

[Blue]

This would be the after...

<img src="http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=222267">

[Blue]

This girl must get awfully cold. Again more of a heroic look than a villainous one.

I'm not quite feeling these yet. Some of the ones I have at home may be better.

<img src="http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=222271">

[BoneDaddy]

At the risk of sounding a little prudish, I always thought fighting in lingere was a little odd. Something more than sorta Freudian about a villainess who commits evil while inciting lust. Sex isn't really that dirty, although it is a little combative/cooperative.

Additionally, I think only the early Greeks and the Picts made any real headway fighting naked. Does she have oodles of regeneration? Does the want the road rash that comes from fighting in a leotard? I love Alex Ross's artwork, specifically in Batman:War on Crime. Beautiful stuff. The most gripping frame is a shot of Wayne working out, without his shirt on. Fantastic muscles, criscrossed with scars, burns and bruises. After a few tumbles, she won't be showing so much leg...

Give the poor girl some pants, and maybe some armor. I'm not saying she shouldn't be hotness, or even skanky hotness. But my first qestion should not be "how much?"

Just my $.02. If it works for you, keep it. Nice art work.

[Blue]

I find it funny that with all the impossible things that take place in comic books (everything from cosmic rays turning people into heroes to...I dunno.. Galactus moving the Earth six inches to the left so that he can more easily fit his ship between here and mars) that people pick on the costumes as unrealistic. Hello? It's a comic book!

I actually do think that the last three pics are too... "small" for the character. But I have yet to find my groove on this character. The first pic that comes anywhere near what I was thinking, and even it is too cyberpunkish. I'm looking for something that says "southern" (without a confederate flag) but can't figure it out.

I'm much better at drawing half-naked women. Naturally, one's mind goes where it wants to be.

[BobGreenwade]

For something a little less risque, here's my first shot at it. I used dark, muted colors to reflect her current "underground" status; the original's costume would be much more vivid.
<IMG SRC=http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=222387>

[Blue]

Thanks. Keep 'em comin'.

Suggestions too. (Even if I do shoot 'em down ;))

[winterhawk]

My first stab...tried to go with a little less skin. Also, I waited for the results of the name poll. Liberty Belle & Liberator...

<img src="http://herogame.dans.cust.servlets.net/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=222437">

[WhammeWhamme]

The first one is kinda interesting.

Skin tight is fine, but flowing clothing has more class, y'know?
Capes are/were popular for a reason. :)

[Blue]

[Deleted Post and Resubmitted picture]

Version WITH hair is below...

[BobGreenwade]

Here's my second try, for those who (a) want to see brighter colors, and (b) want to see more skin. :p

<img src=http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=222506>

[Argus]

I like the one with no hair.

But I think you should give her some hair.

A.

[Blue]

The one I posted above, Now with HAIR!

<img src="http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=222601">

[BobGreenwade]

My third (and probably final) try.

<img src=http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=223159>

[drrushing]

I don't have an image ready, but I do have an Idea.....................
Going with more "combat ready" clothing, make the outfit either "X-Men, movie like, or "Matrix" like.
Add as a long coat or shawl, something that would just touch the ground.
On the bottom half of the coat, make it an American Flag, that way the "Ex-patriot" is dragging the American Flag on the ground.
And before someone goes pyscho, no I don't mean any disrespect to our country, I'm a former Marine. It just occurs to me that one of the most insulting, non-violent ways to disrespect any country would be to drag it's flag in the dirt. OK?

[CarlSagan]

Hey! I like the Matrix reference! They were anti-technology, too, weren't they? And they were also Liberators. How about something like that hot chick from the first Movie. (I can't remember her name.)

I also like the last one that Blue came up with.

[levi]

Made these with Heromachine. I don't know how to make them appear in the list, other than as an attachment

[Blue]

I'll try a wider shot of this one tomorrow, if I can get the time.

There's something I like about the white hair (which was an accident; I waited to color it last)

<img src=http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=224035">

[levi]

Trying to get this right...oops

[Blue]

This is going to make for a fun and interesting final poll :D

But I'll likely wait until after a few more are submitted. Thanks to everyone who took their time out to give this a try.

I think I'd still like to try a few more myself...
--A full costume shot of the last one I did.
--Something where it looks like our hero has been living in the wild for a while
--Something with a more drapery (Coat, Cape, Maybe Glider Wings--since they're a good non-scientific means of movement)

With any luck I'll be able to post the costume poll on Friday and let it run through the weekend while I construct the character and write the full back story.

[BobGreenwade]

I have one more design I want to try as well -- one using color psychology to evoke the mood she wants to exude when she appears. I have the basic colors figured out; I just need to work out the lines and such.

[levi]

I finally think I figured this out.

<img src="http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=224285">

I changed Liberator's costume to make it more rough around the edges with less of a golden age feel and more of a modern feel (darker, more utilitarian). I also changed her eyes, making her seem less wide-eyed and naive, not to mention the teardrop tattoo near her eye that was added as well.

[Blue]

<img src="http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=225100">

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

So far of all these I like v4 and levi's the best.

V8 just doesn't do it for me. Something about the coat ... and just too much white.

[Blue]

Originally posted by Vanderbilt_Grad
So far of all these I like v4 and levi's the best.

V8 just doesn't do it for me. Something about the coat ... and just too much white. I didn't even think about the distinctly missing red.

Personally I like the original v8 better than the last one I did. There's something weird about the way the coat hangs. I'm having trouble drawing what I'm thinking of.

[Hermit]

Originally posted by Blue


Personally I like the original v8 better than the last one I did. There's something weird about the way the coat hangs.

I've got to agree, your close up shows more... pardon the pun, character. While the other's coat looks a bit too... Cruella De'Ville?

[levi]

Originally posted by Vanderbilt_Grad
So far of all these I like v4 and levi's the best.

Thanks Grad, but to be fair at least the others all actually drew their pics. I have to say I like V4 the best myself.

[Blue]

I like this one, but I'm not sure she's sinister enough to be a villain.

<img src="http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=226296">

[winterhawk]

I'd agree with you Blue, good pic, but she looks a bit demure for a bad guy. Maybe she's Liberty Belle, and Liberator is the darker version of the outfit?

[Hermit]

Originally posted by winterhawk
I'd agree with you Blue, good pic, but she looks a bit demure for a bad guy. Maybe she's Liberty Belle, and Liberator is the darker version of the outfit?

Yeah, turn the star around the eye black, make the jacket dark leather, put more anger in the eyes, and you might have her opposite aka the bad guy.

And yes, I know dark colors = evil can be overdone, but it's amazing how often the old standbys work. They might this time as well :)

[Chromatic]

Forgive me for stepping on virtual toes, but I really liked the v9 you did Blue, but felt it needed some tweeks.

Here's my photochop'd version of your art:

[misterdeath]

I like the idea of her not having a "good guy vs bad guy" costume.

Depending on her break with her past life, and feelings about her past, and the artificial nature of such, being a clone and all, it might be that she would keep her old costume.

It's familiar, after all. As well as recognizable. If she's in any way pretending to be the original, who IIRC is MIA, then that let's everyone else go, "What's she up to, what happened to her?" That might make the players much less likely to assume clone/copy/evil twin, and more likely to think mind control/gone rogue/in circumstances they don't understand.

Of cource, from comics and movies, when the good girl goes evil, she gets a much ... sluttier costume. It's a tradition.

D

[Blue]

I didn't want to invert the star (I don't think that she considers herself evil and therefore her symbol wouln't be symbolic of evil but rather of corruption of the american dream). So I liked the idea of a black star. Here's a modified version.

<img src="http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=226331">

[Blue]

Well, it looks like we've got an assortment of entries. (I've got about six of my own that I don't like that I'm not going to post)

But here's something I did for absolutely no reason. It was actually cover of a Ghost Rider issue, so I can take no credit for the art...

<img src="http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=226492">

[Hermit]

Would now be a bad time to point out there's already a Liberator in the CU?

[Hermit]

Love the comic cover btw :)

[Blue]

Originally posted by Hermit
Would now be a bad time to point out there's already a Liberator in the CU? Yup. Yes it would.

"Once again, something that could have been brought to my attention YESTERDAY!" -Adam Sandler

[Hermit]

Originally posted by Blue
Yup. Yes it would.

"Once again, something that could have been brought to my attention YESTERDAY!" -Adam Sandler

Sorry, I was off the forums for a day or two, which is when the name part came up ....

http://www.herogames.com/FreeStuff/freedocs/CU%20Supers-Full.pdf

The superhero for Palestine.

But hey, that's fine. She's Liberator II, like Thunderbolt II in CKC.

[Enforcer84]

Curse you man in the wilderness!!!

back to the fence wit ya.

Sweet Cover Blue.

[Blue]

Originally posted by Hermit
Sorry, I was off the forums for a day or two, which is when the name part came up ....

http://www.herogames.com/FreeStuff/freedocs/CU%20Supers-Full.pdf

The superhero for Palestine.

But hey, that's fine. She's Liberator II, like Thunderbolt II in CKC. Oh yeh... forgot I was talkin' ta isolation boy.

Well, a poll is still a poll. Name stands.

[Hermit]

Originally posted by Blue
Oh yeh... forgot I was talkin' ta isolation boy.

Well, a poll is still a poll. Name stands.

Well, naturally... Every Poll is sacred *Puts hat over heart*

:)

[winterhawk]

Very Cool Cover, Blue...always been a sucker for Silver/Bronze Age cover art.

[Blue]

Last two pics. I'm outta energy on this (and apparently creativity as well).

<img src="http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=227404">

[Blue]

This one may be a little too... rollery derby. I wanted a few pieces of armor, but I don't think it worked.

I'll create the poll shortly.

<img src="http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=227406">

[Korvar]

Originally posted by Hermit
Well, naturally... Every Poll is sacred *Puts hat over heart*

:)

Every Poll is Sacred
Every Poll is Great
If A Poll Gets Wasted
The Mods get Quite Irate...

[lemming]

Originally posted by Korvar
Every Poll is Sacred
Every Poll is Great
If A Poll Gets Wasted
The Mods get Quite Irate...
lol! hermit should use that as his sig. :)

[Hermit]

Originally posted by lemming
lol! hermit should use that as his sig. :)

Mmm, I might.

[Korvar]

Fame at last! :D