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Supreme
Mar 7th, '03, 09:02 AM
Just for fun, I thought I'd calculate what STR Hercules would have to be. The one time that I know of in which Hercules' strength was pushed to its limits was when he took over holding up the Earth from Atlas. It wasn't easy for him, but he was able to support the weight of the Earth long enough for Atlas to walk around, talk to a few people and come back.
So, the Earth weighs about 6 x 10^18 kilotons. To be able to hold that up would require a 390 STR. This would make your base PD 78. Your minimum base REC is 80 (assuming a CON of at least 10) which I believe translates to 8 Body recovered a day which is one Body every three hours. Your leap would also be 78". Toss a -1/4 lim on that (OIHID or something like that) and this is actually an affordable character. Can't hit anyone with an OCV of 3? Hit 'em with the friggin' planet!
Hermit
Mar 7th, '03, 09:14 AM
I think I'd rather put the points in Presence. Who's going to doubt your divinity then? ;)
Supreme
Mar 7th, '03, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by Hermit
I think I'd rather put the points in Presence. Who's going to doubt your divinity then? ;)
Automatons.;)
mattingly
Mar 7th, '03, 09:15 AM
Hmm... If I were to use 400 points to dump into another single ability to make a god of a stat other than STR, how about DEX?
390 points would give me a 140 DEX, for an OCV/DCV of 47.
My DEX Roll would be 37-. Even at a -10 for doing the impossible, and another -10 for doing the impossibly impossible, I'd still succeed 99.5% of the time.
My base SPD would be a 16, allowing me double actions four times per Turn.
Need to target the head of a DCV 10 villain? -8. From 4000 hexes away? -40. You'll still hit on a 10 or less. Who needs MegaScale?
Now, off to contemplate +390 points of PRE... :D
Supreme
Mar 7th, '03, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by Hermit
I think I'd rather put the points in Presence. Who's going to doubt your divinity then? ;)
You could also pump it into COM and have every (straight) woman (and gay man) in the world flock to your defense. That effectively amounts to 3,000,000,000 followers. Nothing to sneeze at.
Patriot
Mar 7th, '03, 09:24 AM
the character would have no skills!
(except everyman ones)
what if he had to solve a crime?
And isnt he a bit restricted in his powers
I suppose after a few points you can buy:
12d6 mind control: one command forget
RSR:Strength check Mental power based off con
(hit em so hard he gets amnesia)
SuperPheemy
Mar 7th, '03, 09:27 AM
Heck, with a COM of 800, you'd get people flocking to your defense regardless of sexual orientation. Eunichs on Mental Castration drug regimens would be laying down their lives to keep you from harm.
Acroyear
Mar 7th, '03, 10:04 AM
.... but the world was actually much smaller and lighter then. :)
MisterVimes
Mar 7th, '03, 10:21 AM
How about a 210 CON? You'd be VERY popular with the members of the opposite sex!
mattingly
Mar 7th, '03, 11:07 AM
Even better -- 400 Overall Levels. That's a +40 at doing ANYTHING. What's the penalty for attempting an untrained skill, -10? -20? No problem!
Tamashii2000
Mar 7th, '03, 11:24 AM
400 points into INT
Perception Roll/Intelegence Roll: 89 or less
I see and can figure out EVERYTHING!
Supreme
Mar 7th, '03, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by Tamashii2000
400 points into INT
Perception Roll/Intelegence Roll: 89 or less
I see and can figure out EVERYTHING!
Yeah, but then you figure out that you're doomed because you didn't spend any points on offense or defense.
;)
megaplayboy
Mar 7th, '03, 10:27 PM
210 Body would be fun--you could jump off a tall building several times. A planet destroying attack would probably leave you alive!
400 points:
VPP, cosmic, 80 active: 200 points
Full Life Support: 50 points
Regen from death, recover lost limbs: about 25 points
+50 PRE, +50 END, +10 Dex, +2 SPD(5 total): 125 points
You can make a presence attack, and shift the VPP levels around to do whatever you want, while they're awestruck.
Technically, you could put 80 points of the VPP into a 400 point multiform(replete with higher stats), or set up a megascale change environment to control weather conditions, or broadcast your voice across a city.
80 points would also give you persistent desolidification, or fully invisible desolidification(invulnerability).
But if you want to do everything Odin Highfather can do all at once, it's gonna run into the four digit range :)
Graviton
Mar 8th, '03, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by Supreme
So, the Earth weighs about 6 x 10^18 kilotons. To be able to hold that up would require a 390 STR. This would make your base PD 78. Your minimum base REC is 80 (assuming a CON of at least 10) which I believe translates to 8 Body recovered a day which is one Body every three hours. Your leap would also be 78". Toss a -1/4 lim on that (OIHID or something like that) and this is actually an affordable character. Can't hit anyone with an OCV of 3? Hit 'em with the friggin' planet!
Personally, I'd build him with an 80-90 STR, and then use a MP slot to buy +300 STR, Only For Lifting. While he is a god, I don't believe the literature supports any of the secondary stats he'd get from a 390 STR.
Or I am I taking this too seriously?!?
MisterVimes
Mar 8th, '03, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by Graviton
Personally, I'd build him with an 80-90 STR, and then use a MP slot to buy +300 STR, Only For Lifting. While he is a god, I don't believe the literature supports any of the secondary stats he'd get from a 390 STR.
Or I am I taking this too seriously?!?
You're taking this too seriously:D
Hercules' bow had a mile range as well. That'd be fun to write up... and imagine the PSLs
Graviton
Mar 8th, '03, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by MisterVimes
You're taking this too seriously:D
Yeah. Thought so. It's a Psych Lim, whattyagonnado? :rolleyes:
Tamashii2000
Mar 8th, '03, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by MisterVimes
You're taking this too seriously:D
Hercules' bow had a mile range as well. That'd be fun to write up... and imagine the PSLs
What I want to see is the write up for Thor's hammer.
Always hits, kills what ever it hits.
Aren't godly weapons cool.
death tribble
Mar 11th, '03, 09:14 AM
Marvel Comics once had Hercules strapped in a harness to pull the island of Manhatten back into position in New York after a villain stole it. And that is a more recent example.
But DC's Spectre (pre Hal Jordon) takes the cake for power. Giant size smacking a planet on top of the sorceror Wotan.
Mayday
Mar 11th, '03, 09:34 AM
...one of my teammates (a super patriot flying brick with a high PRE as well) had a 50 COM. The Super Villainnesses wouldn't leave us alone, they were constantly trying to get rid of us to get to him, to enslave him or well, something. He was always getting notes to dine with them and 'chat'.
It was alot of fun, he was our team leader for quite awhile. His Secret ID was an actor playing his hero side in films, though noone realized they were the same guy.
death tribble
Mar 11th, '03, 10:52 AM
Loreli in Strike orce started at 50 Com and got to 70 Com.
She had powers built around Unconscious Psychic/Pheremone powers.
Some of these just upped her appearance or made men really think twice before attacking her.
And she had a High Presence which kicked in when she was particularly frightened.
Supreme
Mar 11th, '03, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by death tribble
Marvel Comics once had Hercules strapped in a harness to pull the island of Manhatten back into position in New York after a villain stole it. And that is a more recent example.
But DC's Spectre (pre Hal Jordon) takes the cake for power. Giant size smacking a planet on top of the sorceror Wotan.
I never read the original Hercules-towing comic, but Marvel once did put out a list of its own writing/editing blunders of all time, edited by Stan Lee. As Stan pointed out:
Not only does this suppose that Manhattan floats, which it doesn't, but that it can be pulled in through passageways that are narrower than it is wide. Also, the artist showed Hercules towing it in backwards. Battery Park was in the north where Harlem should be.
Fuzzy Gnome
Mar 11th, '03, 11:54 AM
What? Now you want me to tow it back out and turn it around? Varlet.:mad:
Super Squirrel
Mar 11th, '03, 02:11 PM
Just a minor note, but Hercules was only a half-god.
Hercules is also my cat. So he must have the Psychological Limitation: Random Mewing Fits with no apparent purpose other than to drive the rest of the room nuts trying to figure out what cat is communicating. (Frequent, Total)
Supreme
Mar 11th, '03, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by Super Squirrel
Just a minor note, but Hercules was only a half-god.
Hercules is also my cat. So he must have the Psychological Limitation: Random Mewing Fits with no apparent purpose other than to drive the rest of the room nuts trying to figure out what cat is communicating. (Frequent, Total)
The greek version of Hercules (Herakles?) started out as a half-god, but was "promoted" upon his death. The roman Hercules was all god from the beginning.
And random mewing fits is one of the reasons why I prefer dogs.;)
MisterVimes
Mar 11th, '03, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Supreme
And random mewing fits is one of the reasons why I prefer dogs.;)
I like cats AND dogs. I like cats with Mustard and dogs with ketchup!
ZootSoot
Mar 11th, '03, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Supreme
Just for fun, I thought I'd calculate what STR Hercules would have to be. The one time that I know of in which Hercules' strength was pushed to its limits was when he took over holding up the Earth from Atlas. It wasn't easy for him, but he was able to support the weight of the Earth long enough for Atlas to walk around, talk to a few people and come back.
So, the Earth weighs about 6 x 10^18 kilotons. To be able to hold that up would require a 390 STR. This would make your base PD 78. Your minimum base REC is 80 (assuming a CON of at least 10) which I believe translates to 8 Body recovered a day which is one Body every three hours. Your leap would also be 78". Toss a -1/4 lim on that (OIHID or something like that) and this is actually an affordable character. Can't hit anyone with an OCV of 3? Hit 'em with the friggin' planet!
Actually, Atlas and Heracles held up the vault of the heavens over the earth. It is probably much mre difficult to figure out what the mass of such an object is.
JmOz
Mar 11th, '03, 03:44 PM
for that matter it was one of four corners, the other three were held by mountains
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