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Metaphysician
Jan 29th, '04, 06:33 PM
Team 4th: Defender, Jaguar, Quantum, Obsidian, Seeker Solitaire ( 250 point versions )

vs

Team New Millenium: Defender, Quantum, Behemoth, Seeker, Solitaire ( Champions: NM book versions )

vs

Team 5th: Defender, Ironclad, Nighthawk, Sapphire, Witchcraft ( 350 point versions )

Which team wins??
WhammeWhamme
Jan 29th, '04, 06:40 PM
Team New Millenium.

They're built on what? 450 points?
Battlestaff
Jan 30th, '04, 05:10 AM
What about Team 3rd? You know, Marksman, Rose, Gargoyle, etc.? They'd have what, about 1,000 xp each by now?
Bengal
Jan 30th, '04, 05:16 AM
Honestly, I can't ever vote for a team featuring Jaguar, Seeker and Solitaire... even though I haven't the foggiest of the stats of the other two teams.
Metaphysician
Jan 30th, '04, 10:14 AM
Far better than the ( at best ) boring mystic and martial artist on Champs 5th. . .

:mad:
Southern Cross
Jan 30th, '04, 01:00 PM
Agreed.Unfortunately the 4th edition Champions is the least powerful superteam on this thread.
Champsguy
Jan 30th, '04, 01:02 PM
Not really. We did a mock combat between the 4th Edition and 5th Edition teams back when 5th first came out.

It was surprising, but the 4th Edition team won.
rayoman
Jan 30th, '04, 01:26 PM
This kind of makes sense. The 4th edition champions were throwing around the same DC attacks as the 5th edition, but the 4th edition champions have higher defenses in relation to their attacks.

right?


Originally posted by Champsguy
Not really. We did a mock combat between the 4th Edition and 5th Edition teams back when 5th first came out.

It was surprising, but the 4th Edition team won.
Champsguy
Jan 30th, '04, 01:29 PM
Right. Plus, the 4th Edition versions were just built a little more efficiently. Nighthawk has a 25 Dex. Seeker has a 26. That gives him an extra OCV/DCV and makes him go first.
WhammeWhamme
Jan 30th, '04, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Champsguy
Right. Plus, the 4th Edition versions were just built a little more efficiently. Nighthawk has a 25 Dex. Seeker has a 26. That gives him an extra OCV/DCV and makes him go first.

Of course, as I pointed out...

Seeker CNM is DEX 30 (when converted)
Behemoth is STR 75.

etcetera, etcetera.