What I hate about HERO from RPG net

[Law Dog]

Here's the thread

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?threadid=38335


Out of 10 gripes, only 2 that have any true validity. Sure beats the pounding that Palladium took.

[Yamo]

This guy's already been shot down pretty good. A few more bullets in the corpse can't hurt if anyone has time to spare for it, though. :D

[Law Dog]

Yeah, Yamo, I saw you giving him a pretty good drubbing.


Admittedly, Hero can be slow for combat and keeping track of stun/body/end can be an exercise in bookkeeping, but it's the tradeoff you make for incredible detail and versatility.

His other arguments were weak. And the one about Hero fans being rabid. Give me a break. For every Hero fan you find that's obnoxious, I could point to two insane Palladium fans, when the game was more popular and can now point at half a dozen "d20 only" people.

[Syberdwarf2]

I have but one thing to say to this guy;

Plonk.

[Chaosliege]

I thought this was funny as hell.



God -edit- it, I'm sick of this -edit-. Hero is the best system for everything. Do you hear me? -edit- everything! From regular guys with guns to Lensmen to -edit- ants in an anthill.

But that's not all. Hero will shine your shoes. It will pump your gas, change your oil, and get a phone number from that hot stripper you saw last week. It will solve the Middle East peace process and stop burglars. It will wipe your ass for you if you're out of toilet paper. It was first sighted building the Egyptian pyramids, and when Neil -edit- Armstrong first set foot on the moon, the Hero hex dude was there. If applied to the skin after a sunburn, Hero will prevent it from peeling. In an emergency, you can eat pieces of the rulebook or burn it to keep you warm. And it makes -edit- julienne fries.

Plus, I like playing it.

I admit there are quite a few rabid Hero fans out there, but I'm not one of them. Nor is anyone I play with. We have played with and seen rabid D20 fans though. And on the boards, I've seen more than one SAS fanatic.. :D



-edited- to reduce cursing

[Agent Escafarc]

Originally posted by Chaosliege
I thought this was funny as hell.





But that doesn't make it any less true:D
Now excuse me while I go see how FRED is doing washing my Jeep;)

[TechnoViking]

Originally posted by Chaosliege

I admit there are quite a few rabid Hero fans out there, but I'm not one of them.
I think some Hero Fans get "Rabid" due to the anti-Hero "Rabid" people.

Mike

[Toadmaster]

This is the second one of these type of threads I've seen, I find it funny that some people apparantly are so threatend by HERO they feel compelled to take time out of their day to make a point by point explanation of why HERO is not the best game and go so far as to try to show that it is a bad game, of course it looks as though they don't take the time to actually learn the rules which would help them argue (actually it would probably cause them to lose their faith when they saw the true wonderfulness of Fred). There are a lot of games I don't like, and I might suggest they take a look at another system but it doesn't cause me to feel the need to "save" people from the system they are enjoying. Well I gotta go, Fred is going to need more glass cleaner to finish my windows (Yes, Fred even does windows).

[Neko Ewen]

Now I remember why I stopped frequenting the RPG.net boards. :p

[Mavnn]

_Blink_

It's Blackbird. On the HERO boards.

_Blink_

Hmm... wasn't expecting that one. Cool website you've got, BTW, don't think I ever got round to telling you. And nice job on Thrash. Hell, I even use Elaine as my wallpaper at home :).

Sorry for this off topic diversion...

Michael

[tenebre]

some fo teh critiques are jsut lies.

stats only give bonuses in multiples of 5???

ummm not in the hero i play....

at any rate... i played otns of games and hero won me over as being the best. the gripes i saw there are silly.

COM should be less than DEX.. why? because it IS less important

[starblaze]

I said it before, and I will say it again.
If you don't like the game don't play it.
Nuff said!

[nblade]

Originally posted by Mike Basinger
I think some Hero Fans get "Rabid" due to the anti-Hero "Rabid" people.

Mike

Not to mention the fact that every (and I do mean EVERY) game system has so called "Rabid" Fans. Hell everything has "Rabid" fans, it just a simple fact of human nature. (as much as I wish this was not the case)

Starblaze says it best, if you don't like a game don't play it. (which is THE REASON I don't reallly do D20) After all we are not espousing some theology here. (no matter what people think, RPG are not a religion). We can simply choose what games we prefer to play and find like minded people. That is not to say that discussion is bad, it is good. The sad truth is games system can not usually be compared without someone trying to start a Holy (or is that Unholy) War.

[Steve Long]

After all we are not espousing some theology here.

We're not? Dammit, someone shoulda told me that before I ordered my mitre and green-and-black vestments....

[Agent Escafarc]

Originally posted by Steve Long
We're not? Dammit, someone shoulda told me that before I ordered my mitre and green-and-black vestments....

Dammit someone shoud of told me before I claimed my HERO exspences as deductions on my taxes;)

[James Gillen]

Originally posted by Chris Goodwin on RPG.net:
God -edit- it, I'm sick of this -edit-. Hero is the best system for everything. Do you hear me? -edit- everything! From regular guys with guns to Lensmen to -edit- ants in an anthill.

But that's not all. Hero will shine your shoes. It will pump your gas, change your oil, and get a phone number from that hot stripper you saw last week. It will solve the Middle East peace process and stop burglars. It will wipe your ass for you if you're out of toilet paper. It was first sighted building the Egyptian pyramids, and when Neil -edit- Armstrong first set foot on the moon, the Hero hex dude was there. If applied to the skin after a sunburn, Hero will prevent it from peeling. In an emergency, you can eat pieces of the rulebook or burn it to keep you warm. And it makes -edit- julienne fries.

Plus, I like playing it.

On RPG.net, this quote is my new sig. :D

JG

[nblade]

Actually sounds like that guy needs to switch to decaf or something :)

[Chris Goodwin]

Originally posted by James Gillen
On RPG.net, this quote is my new sig. :D

JG

I saw that. :D First time I've been sigged. :cool:

[SuperPheemy]

Does that mean I don't have to hang out in Darren's closet waiting to hear his confessional anymore? I hope so, fumes from his old shoes are starting to give me hallucinations.

"Forgive me father, I have committed original sin, I umm... poked a badger with a spoon."

[MarkusDark]

It's not the confessions I dislike... it is the pennance. ;)

[Vondy]

Oooooh.... HERO envy.

[Syberdwarf2]

It's not the size of your HERO, its how he fires his EB.:rolleyes:

[Acroyear]

Originally posted by Syberdwarf2
It's not the size of your HERO, its how he fires his EB.:rolleyes:

Pity those with only a Hand Attack?

The only two goons you really need to look out for are Blightcrawler and Ian Noble... they have so many wild exaggerations spilling out their ears it should really be a crime. Most everyone else seems to at least be splashing around in the possible...but I think they're finding they're just on everyone's ignore lists so they just post short and pointless replies now. I didn't read the thread, but I'd bet an arm both of them posted to it :)

[Nato]

Originally posted by SuperPheemy
Does that mean I don't have to hang out in Darren's closet waiting to hear his confessional anymore?

That's not the REAL reason you've been hqanging out in Darren's closet.

[Starcorp Man]

Isn't this the same thing that certain hero fans do to other games, namly d20 games, on this very board? It's really no different.

[SuperPheemy]

Well, about the time the boards went down in January, I ducked in here to change into the SuperPheemy Identity (hey, Superman has a friggin "intellectual copyright" on any remaining standing phone booths, changing there is an "infringement of gimmick") and Darren tossed his jogging shoes in behind me, mid-change. Well, long story short, I succumbed to the fumes, Darren started stacking Dune Novels and old Flash Gordon collectables in front of the door, trapping me in here.

I found a long forgotten old laptop hidden under a stack of "XXXenophile" comics in the back, and tapped the phone line running through the walls.

However, the modem is slow enough that my only real contact with the outside world is through the HERO boards.

Did you know that there's a laytex "Heroman" costume hanging up in here, with an inflatable chest?