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CleverName
Mar 10th, '03, 10:41 AM
I'm working on a wizard-type charactacter for Champions. He has a suit of magical clothes that's alive - actually it's his familiar (some kind of interdimensional being).

The suit protects him (Armor) and can change to look like any other type of clothing (Transform), but and here's the stickler, I'd like for it to have another form that can interact with the other characters, etc.

My initial thoughts was for the mage to buy the familiar as a follower.

This follower has a mulitform One when its the "clothes" and the other when it is an independant being.

When it its "clothes" form its powers are Desolid (Always on, cannot pass throgh solids) and then Armor and Transform, that can only affect it's "master" -- basically you cannot easily hurt the critter, but it's only powers are to aid its master.

That seems awfully expensive though, any other ideas?

Talon
Mar 10th, '03, 10:49 AM
I would buy the Follower with a Multiform as you say, but have the "clothes" form be nothing but defenses to simulate how hard the clothes are to damage. Drop all the physical stats down so it should cost next to nothing. Add a Physical Limitation "Does not provide cover" to make it extra clear that the PC wearing this form does not give him the form's defenses.

Then, have the PC buy the clothes powers with the extra Limitation "not when Follower is out of clothes form", probably a -1/4 but maybe a -0 depending on specifics.

That way, you don't have to buy a whole ton of Affects Physical World stuff.

Fuzzy Gnome
Mar 10th, '03, 10:49 AM
Could you buy a Multipower with Armor in one slot and Duplication in another?

CleverName
Mar 10th, '03, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Geoff Speare


Then, have the PC buy the clothes powers with the extra Limitation "not when Follower is out of clothes form", probably a -1/4 but maybe a -0 depending on specifics.

That way, you don't have to buy a whole ton of Affects Physical World stuff.

Ahh...your HERO-FU is stronger than mine!

I knew there was a better way of looking at this!

Acroyear
Mar 10th, '03, 11:02 AM
I'd use duplication, I think.

Guy in suit with powers with Hero ID only stuff on the things the suit offers and then "can't use power when duplicated" as a limitation. Depending on how often you plan to "split" would determine the value. The more often you split, the more it's worth.

Then the duplicate is just what the suit-creature is.

This allows you avoid all the clunky "usable by others" advantages and stuff of the suit ON the guy AND avoids the cheesiness of "Hey, you only paid 1/5 for all these fancy powers. Munchkin!" stuff.

Fuzzy Gnome, no, you shouldn't (current framework rules). But can with GM permission.