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megaplayboy
Feb 16th, '04, 07:27 PM
Was at Dundracon this weekend, flipped through the spiffy new vehicle sourcebook, and have only one minor quibble:

Steve, the Iowa class Battleship is listed with only 10 DEF!

I'm sure you just forgot the extra line listing 10 or 20 extra DEF with a "limited coverage" limitation, but could you tell us what the value is supposed to be?
the current listing would be sunk by 2 hits with it's own guns, or even 3 hits by an Abrams! A 40 STr brick could haymaker it into oblivion in a few minutes;)

Anyway, I'm sure it's easy to miss stuff when you have 50 lines of stuff per writeup:)

megaplayboy
Feb 17th, '04, 12:23 PM
uh, just bumping so Steve will notice(eventually)

Steve Long
Feb 18th, '04, 09:54 AM
I didn't miss it -- I was traveling. ;)

I don't think there's anything wrong with the listed DEF, based on my research and general conceptualization of the subject. If you prefer a higher DEF, it's an easy enough change to make for your games. ;)

You may also want to consider the rules on TUV 188, which may have some bearing on this subject in-game.

megaplayboy
Feb 18th, '04, 10:14 AM
I will read it when I get home, but it still seems peculiar to me that a ship with armor ranging from about 2-3" minimum to 16+" maximum of steel could conceivably be sunk by concentrated machine gun fire, or for that matter, a guy with a .44 magnum and a lot of bullets.

megaplayboy
Feb 18th, '04, 08:51 PM
http://www.battleship.org/html/Articles/IowaClass/Armor.htm

The money quote:

The most notable difference between modern warships and the Iowa Class battleships is the huge amount of armor protection the Iowas employ. Modern warships are hardly armored at all, instead relying on their ability to stop incoming threats before they can hit the ship. Newer warships have only a few inches of armor plating and in an effort to save weight, have even used aluminum in their superstructures. In contrast, the Iowas were built at a time before missiles and since you could not shoot down or destroy an incoming projectile, the ships were built to withstand the tremendous force of impact produced by naval gunfire.


Why on earth does the Nimitz have a higher DEF than the Iowa?

I know I'm just picking a nit here, but it just kinda stood out to me;)

Blue Jogger
Feb 19th, '04, 01:27 PM
I thought it was so the 50 STR brick could haymaker and punch his way through. :D