GM screens

[tenebre]

anyone got or know of where i can get a 1st and 3rd edition GM screen?

[Monolith]

I see some on eBay every once and a while, but that is the only place I can think of. Sorry.

[Derek Hiemforth]

As far as I know, there was no 1st Edition GM screen. I believe the first one was for the 2nd Edition of Champions.

[Doug Limmer]

Originally posted by Derek Hiemforth
As far as I know, there was no 1st Edition GM screen. I believe the first one was for the 2nd Edition of Champions. I have a two-panel GM screen which I got the same time I got my (used) copy of the 1st edition book, wrapped in the same plastic wrap; is that a 2nd edition screen?

(Hmm ... I just noticed the HERO05 on the bottom of it; why didn't I notice that before?)

[Derek Hiemforth]

Originally posted by Doug Limmer
I have a two-panel GM screen which I got the same time I got my (used) copy of the 1st edition book, wrapped in the same plastic wrap; is that a 2nd edition screen?On the panel where it says Gamemaster's Screen for CHAMPIONS" and shows the two guys facing off against each other, is there a yellow splash panel after the word CHAMPIONS that says "2nd Edition?"

[Doug Limmer]

Originally posted by Derek Hiemforth
On the panel where it says Gamemaster's Screen for CHAMPIONS" and shows the two guys facing off against each other, is there a yellow splash panel after the word CHAMPIONS that says "2nd Edition?" The panel where it says "Gamemaster's Screen for CHAMPIONS" doesn't have two guys facing off against each other. It has the speed chart, and a large version of the logo (with the red and blue energy projector).

[Derek Hiemforth]

Sorry... I didn't notice that each panel had the same verbiage on it. Okay, does it have the yellow "Revised Edition" splash on the other panel, where it says Gamemaster's Screen for CHAMPIONS on that one? :)

[Doug Limmer]

Originally posted by Derek Hiemforth
Sorry... I didn't notice that each panel had the same verbiage on it. Okay, does it have the yellow "Revised Edition" splash on the other panel, where it says Gamemaster's Screen for CHAMPIONS on that one? :) My Gamemaster's Screen only says "Gamemaster's Screen for CHAMPIONS" on one panel. The other three sides are full of combat maneuvers and combat modifiers and such.

Aha! The Strength Chart on mine has a "KDamage" column with a +0,+1,+1,+1/2D6,+1/2D6,+1D6,+1D6,... pattern. That's in the first edition book, but not in the second edition book. I also found a 1981 copyright on it.

[Derek Hiemforth]

Well I'll be damned! I'd looked for years for a 1st Edition screen, even to the point of buying two items advertised as such from online out-of-print dealers, both of which turned out to be 2nd Edition screens! The stock number didn't clear up the confusion, unfortunately. 1st Edition Champions came out in 1981, and 2nd Edition in 1982. The GM Screen is stock number 05, which places it between Escape From Stronghold (1981), and Enemies II (1982). So there was no way to tell from that. And the 2nd Edition screen does not have a copyright date on it.

All that taken together, plus the fact that I had never even seen a 1st Edition screen, made me think there was none. But that Strength Chart difference clinches it... my 2nd edition screen does not list a KDamage column.

Thanks, Doug! I'll update my HERO System Products List to reflect this info. (Then I'll start hunting for a 1st Edition screen again. ;) )

('Course, tracking this stuff would be a lot easier if the guys hadn't re-used the same stock number for different versions of the same product... mumble, mutter... ;) )

[Starcorp Man]

Yeah, I've only seen the first edition screen once, at a Con, back in 95. He was using a first and second edition screen (grey, with two people fighting). It's the only hero product I don't have.

[Derek Hiemforth]

Originally posted by Starcorp Man
He was using a first and second edition screen (grey, with two people fighting).Well, the 2nd Edition screen was two pieces... one with the Speed Chart and old Hero Games logo on the panel with "Gamemasters Screen for Champions," and one with two people fighting on that panel. So it may have just been the 2nd edition screen...

[JohnTaber]

Hi Derek,

I think I have a first edition screen at home. If I still have it you can have it for your collection. ;) I'll try to remember to check...

[Derek Hiemforth]

Wow! That's really cool of you, John! I'll have to at least buy you lunch or something! :) :)

[Starcorp Man]

Originally posted by Derek Hiemforth
Well, the 2nd Edition screen was two pieces... one with the Speed Chart and old Hero Games logo on the panel with "Gamemasters Screen for Champions," and one with two people fighting on that panel. So it may have just been the 2nd edition screen...

Nope, it was both, it had the funky killing damage chart on it, that sparked the memory and was larger then two panels, with three ËËË set up.