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Wildcat
Aug 25th, '04, 07:29 PM
Anyone else notice that there's no Autofire listing for the Exotic ammunitions in the Gun charts? (Or at least I can't find them).

GamePhil
Aug 25th, '04, 08:14 PM
Ok, I'm only part way through the Guns, Guns, Guns! section of the book, so I may be off base. However, if I'm understanding your comment correctly, there aren't supposed to be any: the Autofire is part of the gun, not the ammunition, so it wouldn't be there.

Feel free to correct me, it's the only way I'll learn :)

ParitySoul
Aug 25th, '04, 09:22 PM
How much in the way of new rules are presented in DC?

Steve Long
Aug 26th, '04, 04:12 AM
There aren't any such charts. Look at how much page space just the basic charts take up. Adding Autofire into the mix for more than just Standard ammo and shells would have made the book mushroom up in size. (Not to mention the extra working time to create them, which I couldn't afford at that stage of the project.)

My intention is to prepare the other charts -- potentially several hundred of them, by my count -- and sell them as a Hero Plus PDF for some nominal sum. I don't think many gamers will want them, but to satisfy my own sense of completeness I'd like to make 'em available.

Edsel
Aug 26th, '04, 05:13 AM
My intention is to prepare the other charts -- potentially several hundred of them, by my count -- and sell them as a Hero Plus PDF for some nominal sum. I don't think many gamers will want them, but to satisfy my own sense of completeness I'd like to make 'em available.
Good marketing... I'll buy it. I actually prefer to have something like charts and tables in electronic format. It is easier to print out the specific charts you need for a night's game that way.

Wildcat
Aug 26th, '04, 07:46 AM
There aren't any such charts. Look at how much page space just the basic charts take up. Adding Autofire into the mix for more than just Standard ammo and shells would have made the book mushroom up in size. (Not to mention the extra working time to create them, which I couldn't afford at that stage of the project.)

OK that's basically what I Thought... but I was just worried I was loosing it... I love the charts and I will buy them when you finally complete them. This breakdown of the Damage Classes by Caliber is fantastic... we're already making up new Hero write ups for weapons.

WC

PS: Steve You ROCK (again) The inclusion of the OICW was just fantastic I've been following the progression of that weapon for years... Thanx Again!!

Steve Long
Aug 26th, '04, 10:42 AM
Thanx for the kind words, guys! Glad to know you're enjoying the book.


I actually prefer to have something like charts and tables in electronic format. It is easier to print out the specific charts you need for a night's game that way.

Exactly. This is the sort of thing that was can still do with Hero Plus. It doesn't require illustration, wouldn't do well as a printed book, and isn't something the purchaser needs to consult all the time.

The trick is just getting all the work done. Calc'latin' all those numbers takes a bit of time. ;) But it's actually kind of fun, in a completist sort of way. Seeing all the numbers line up right in the chart provides a certain level of satisfaction.

HiLiph
Aug 26th, '04, 10:50 AM
Steve, the book RAWKS! It was nice seeing you guys at Gencon.

And now, a question: when might the Hero Designer file be available for DC?

Vanguard
Aug 26th, '04, 03:17 PM
I'm going to chime in with the rest of the gang here.

I think Dark Champions is one of THE best champions books I've picked up to date. (With the exception of FrED of course, :) ).

I LUV this book.

Good job Steve and the gang. :bmk: :cheers: :rockon:

Steve Long
Aug 26th, '04, 03:17 PM
when might the Hero Designer file be available for DC?

We've got the HD files in hand. Ben just has to check over them, comparing what we've got to the final changes I made in the book to ensure that everything synchs up. So, the DC Character Pack should be available before too long.

Caveat: it doesn't contain all the guns, in the same way that the FH Pack doesn't have all the melee weapons. That's a little too much work to ask someone to do for a small royalty (and on a short deadline). ;) But it's got the characters, all the Super-Skills, the gadgets, and so on. Ben will provide more info at the appropriate time.