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Michael Hopcroft

Apr 1st, '03, 06:45 PM

I'd like to see what people think of this character.

The Greyhound

Player: Michael Hopcroft

<table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Val  </td><td>Char   </td><td>Cost</td></tr><tr><td align="right">18  </td><td>STR</td><td>8</td></tr><tr><td align="right">23  </td><td>DEX</td><td>39</td></tr><tr><td align="right">15  </td><td>CON</td><td>10</td></tr><tr><td align="right">13  </td><td>BODY</td><td>6</td></tr><tr><td align="right">15  </td><td>INT</td><td>5</td></tr><tr><td align="right">13  </td><td>EGO</td><td>6</td></tr><tr><td align="right">18  </td><td>PRE</td><td>8</td></tr><tr><td align="right">18  </td><td>COM</td><td>4</td></tr><tr><td></td><td> </td><td></td></tr><tr><td align="right">12  </td><td>PD</td><td>8</td></tr><tr><td align="right">10  </td><td>ED</td><td>7</td></tr><tr><td align="right">7  </td><td>SPD</td><td>37</td></tr><tr><td align="right">15  </td><td>REC</td><td>16</td></tr><tr><td align="right">80  </td><td>END</td><td>25</td></tr><tr><td align="right">30  </td><td>STUN</td><td>0</td></tr><td></td><td> </td><td></td></tr><tr><td align="right">46"  </td><td>RUN</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td align="right">2"  </td><td>SWIM</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td align="right">3 1/2"  </td><td>LEAP</td><td>0</td></tr></table>Characteristics Cost: 179

<table border="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td align="right">Cost  </td><td>Power</td><td align="right">END</td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">71  </td><td>Running +40" (Improved Noncombat Movement (x4)), Combat Acceleration/Deceleration (+1/4) (106 Active Points); Increased Endurance Cost (2x END; -1/2) (added to Primary Value) </td><td valign="top" align="right">22</td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">27  </td><td>Desolidification : Only while running (40 Active Points); Conditional Power (Power does not work in Common Circumstances; -1/2) </td><td valign="top" align="right">4</td></tr></table>Powers Cost: 98

<table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Cost  </td><td>Martial Arts Maneuver</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">  </td><td>Speedster Martial Arts </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>1) Flying Dodge: 1/2 Phase, -- OCV, +4 DCV, Dodge All Attacks, Abort; FMove </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>2) Flying Grab: 1/2 Phase, -2 OCV, -1 DCV, Grab Two Limbs, +10 STR for holding on; FMove </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>3) Passing Disarm: 1/2 Phase, -1 OCV, -1 DCV, Disarm, +10 STR to Disarm roll; FMove </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>4) Passing Strike: 1/2 Phase, +1 OCV, +0 DCV, STR +v/5; FMove </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>5) Passing Throw: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +0 DCV, STR +v/5; Target Falls; FMove </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>6) Rapid Strike: 1/2 Phase, -2 OCV, +1 DCV, STR +4d6 Strike </td></tr></table>Martial Arts Cost: 30

<table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Cost  </td><td>Skill</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Bureaucratics 13- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Criminology 12- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Deduction 12- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Forensic Medicine 12- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">6  </td><td>Gambling (Card Games) 14- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Oratory 13- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Seduction 13- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Sleight Of Hand 14- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Stealth 14- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Streetwise 13- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">2  </td><td>TF: Common Motorized Ground Vehicles </td></tr></table>Skills Cost: 35

<table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Cost  </td><td>Perk</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>Contact: Police Commissioner (11-) (Contact has access to major institutions, Contact has significant Contacts of his own, Contact limited by identity, Good relationship with Contact) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">2  </td><td>Fringe Benefit (Local Police Powers) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">2  </td><td>Fringe Benefit (Concealed Weapon Permit (where appropriate)) </td></tr></table>Perks Cost: 8

Total Character Cost: 350

<table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Val  </td><td>Disadvantages</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">25  </td><td>Dependent NPC: Sgt. John Casey, Normal, 14- (Frequently), Unaware of character's adventuring career/Secret ID </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">15  </td><td>Hunted: VIPER, As Powerful, 8- (Occasionally), Harshly Punish, Extensive Non-Combat Influence </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">20  </td><td>Hunted: The Mob, As Powerful, 8- (Occasionally), Harshly Punish, Extensive Non-Combat Influence, PC has a Public ID or is otherwise very easy to find, Custom Adder </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">20  </td><td>Psychological Limitation: Code Against Killing, Very Common, Strong </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">20  </td><td>Psychological Limitation: Sense of duty to Police Officers, Very Common, Strong </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">20  </td><td>Social Limitation: Police duties take substantial portion of free time, Very Frequently (14-), Major </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">15  </td><td>Social Limitation: Secret Identity, Frequently (11-), Major </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Unluck: +1d6 </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10  </td><td>Vulnerability: Drains, Uncommon, Vulnerability Multiplier (2x Effect) </td></tr></table>
Disadvantage Points: 150

Base Points: 200
Experience Required: 0
Total Experience Available: 0
Experience Unspent: 0

Arthur

Apr 1st, '03, 07:21 PM

Looks well thought out.

However, the x2 END Cost at that SPD seems excessive. Especially to then turn around and buy extra END to cover it just complicates things. Take those points you spent on extra END and redo the Running without the increased END cost. The effect will be about the same.

I see you are simulating a character who is a sprinter, not an long-distance runner. Fascinating, and nice concept. However, I think that following my advice would still retain that concept - it's more a matter of simplification than trying to be more efficient.

Other than that, looks good.

Wormhole

Apr 2nd, '03, 03:06 PM

Question: If he doesn't have a gun (or at least hasn't paid points for one) what's the point of the Concealed Weapon Permit?

TheEmerged

Apr 2nd, '03, 03:49 PM

x2 END on the running is definitely out of whack. Remember that in 5th Edition the END cost for movement is figured based on Active Points just like every other power. Even if your character is only half-moving, that's going to be 11 END a phase -- 77 END a turn. What's more, according to the Rules FAQ "However, if a character is performing a Move Through and trying to get as many extra dice of damage as he can, or otherwise somehow obtaining the benefit of his full velocity, he must pay END for the full number of inches, regardless of how many inches he actually moves.". I'd apply that to the Passing Strike as well.

This varies from campaign to campaign, but in most campaigns Drain is closer to a Common limitation than Uncommon. That's how it's listed in Champions, for example (page 159).

You may also want to reexamine the "occurance" of your psychological limitations. A "very common" psych lim is something that should cause an issue several times per adventure. Code Versus Killing, for example, is "officially" a Common limitation.

I'll use myself as an example here. I'm noticeably eccentric -- it comes up often enough that I can rarely attend a social function without it becoming an issue in some way. However it usually isn't enough of an issue to *cause problems*, hence I only have it at Common.

Editted because I was mistaken about something related to END costs..