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steph
Nov 12th, '04, 11:48 AM
with my wip a grab the arms of a troll at is turn he want to escape .....my question is :for make the str contest with me ...the troll have to make a attack on me?? or we just make the str contest??
hope i am clear
stef the french canadian
excuse my english

Outsider
Nov 12th, '04, 05:28 PM
No attack roll is needed, as he isnt really attacking you, just attempting to break out of your grab.

If the troll was some sort of martial artist troll, though, and wanted to perform a reversal (ie a manuver he can only use starting with his opponent having grabbed him that ends up with him having his opponent grabbed) I would say he had to make the attack roll, since he ends up with an attack result on you (you are grabbed). I would say that a failure on the attack roll on the reversal would leave him free (assuming he won the str vs str) but not you grabbed.

CrosshairCollie
Nov 12th, '04, 05:43 PM
If the troll was some sort of martial artist troll, .

Now that's an image I have to inflict on my players.

Rapier
Nov 12th, '04, 06:10 PM
Now that's an image I have to inflict on my players.
I was thinking kind of the same thing...but mine were NINJA TROLLS!

tkdguy
Nov 13th, '04, 12:52 AM
I'd personally use Tai Chi for my trolls and ogres, just to see the look on my players' faces.

And to answer your question, steph, I agree with Outsider. Only a STR contest is needed, not an attack roll.