FREd II: The FAQening

[Blue]

Actually, my question is about the cover: Is it identical to 5e or is there some obvious distinguishing difference that will allow me to tell it from my other copies of FREd?

[Mark Taylor]

http://www.herogames.com/Products/hero5ER.htm

[Blue]

Thanks MT, I knew we kept you around for something.

Aw, I was hoping for just a little more obviousness. Blue lettering or a big red Revised to keep my absent-minded self from taking the wrong one to games. The white Revised is almost nondescript. Well, for us inattentive types anyway ;)

[Steve Long]

The white REVISED may not stand out as much as, say, gold or bright red, but it has one gigantic virtue: it's free. Adding another color to the cover would cost a lot of money.

I think once you see it "in the flesh" (so to speak), you'll find that it's plenty distinctive and you won't accidentally pick up the wrong book on a regular basis. :hex:

[Derek Hiemforth]

I think once you see it "in the flesh" (so to speak), you'll find that it's plenty distinctive and you won't accidentally pick up the wrong book on a regular basis. :hex:You'll probably be able to tell 'em apart by weight. :winkgrin:

[Blue]

Ah, the Free thing makes sense. I figured any change at all to the cover was the same as a minor change (Much the way changing the manuscript is like making a whole new book).

I guess I can give it a book cover anyway. And as Derek points out, I'll likely be hauling it around on a flatbed truck anyway :)

[Steve Long]

I'll likely be hauling it around on a flatbed truck anyway

Using artificial lifting aids defeats our "Hero Healthiness" program -- we encourage you to carry it on your own to develop muscle tone and stamina! ;)

[zornwil]

Ah, the Free thing makes sense. I figured any change at all to the cover ...(blah blah blah, snip)
HERO Fifth Edition Revised is FREE??? ALL RIGHT!!!!!! :cheers:




Just starting baseless rumors. :D

[Darren Watts]

Ah, the Free thing makes sense. I figured any change at all to the cover was the same as a minor change (Much the way changing the manuscript is like making a whole new book).

I guess I can give it a book cover anyway. And as Derek points out, I'll likely be hauling it around on a flatbed truck anyway :)

Well, changing the cover at all does involve some charges, but this is a brand-new printing as far as the printer is concerned because we no longer use the original printer from two-and-a-half years ago. The "free" part comes in when we don't add any additional colors from the original color file. Even though it looks like there are three separate colors on the cover, it's actually only two- the two colors of writing are "shades" of the same color. We could either try to find another distinctive shade, make the new text simply white, or add an entire new color to the mix (the expensive option.) More than you wanted to know, I'm sure. dw

[KA.]

HERO Fifth Edition Revised is FREE??? ALL RIGHT!!!!!! :cheers:

Just starting baseless rumors. :D

Hey, I remember this!
Back when they were selling Hero Creat . . . err, 5th Ed., they said that if you bought it you would get the Updated version for free.

Yeah, that's the ticket. :D

KA.

[Blue]

Using artificial lifting aids defeats our "Hero Healthiness" program -- we encourage you to carry it on your own to develop muscle tone and stamina! ;)
Heh. Healthiness. I don't believe we've met before, my name is Blue, and I'm going to lay down now because typing has made me dizzy.

[tancred]

I can't tell you anything about the cover, but I've held the bound manucscript version in my hot little hands!
Steve let me look at it this past weekend (at MACE); thanks, Steve!

As for healthiness, there's at least 10 pounds of page cross-references in it alone. (Anything you can't find by direct cross-reference in this book probably doesn't exist.)
They'll be going, "That must be a HERO gamer; look at those rippling, muscled arms! You can only get those from 5ER!"

Not really. It wasn't that much thicker than FRed, but it had lots of good artwork (e.g., both the DC and FH covers used as section dividers), more cross-referencing than you could shake a stick at, and REALLY good examples and other goodies in the sidebars.

Now if the printer would just turn it loose.

[Zephrosyne]

Hmm, if I start carrying around the new book, I can give up my ab-roller.

[aylwin13]

Gimme, gimme, gimme. I wan' mine NOW!!!!! :cry:



This is worse than waiting for Christmas... :(

[Derek Hiemforth]

FREd II: The FAQeningOn an unrelated note...

I implore you not to refer to 5ER in any way that makes it seem related to the abomination known as Highlander II: The Quickening. :winkgrin:

Really.


Please.

Pretty please.


There should have been only one.

Really.


please?

[Ben Seeman]

You mean there was a Highlander movie before Highlander 2?

*ducks

[Blue]

So what are you suggesting?
FREd II: FREd Harder
FREd II: Electric Boogaloo

I personally can't wait for next year's FREd 3D, where not only are the calculation charts back, but they digits leap right out at you!

[aylwin13]

I'm kinda partial to ReFREd myself. :)

[Blue Jogger]

This is Hero Games, shouldn't it just be:


Fred, Revised Edition (+1/2)
:hex:

Of course, I think I have to buy up my Strength to carry it casually.

[tancred]

Blue, shouldn't that be:
Wilma: Bride of Fred ?


:)

[Derek Hiemforth]

Blue, shouldn't that be:
Wilma: Bride of Fred ?


:)
Heh. I actually thought SideKick should have been nicknamed Barney. ;)

[Rapier]

I'm kinda partial to ReFREd myself. :)
Ohhhhhhhh....I LIKE THAT. It'll really piss off blackmoor too. :)

[rjcurrie]

As much as I hate to say it, I have to agree with Blackmoor and would prefer the whole "Fred" nonsense to go away. I think it is cliquish and non-newbie friendly, something that we are accused of too often on these boards. 5ER is a perfectly acceptable abbreviation that is easy-to-understand and shorter to type. :)

Rod

[aylwin13]

As much as I hate to say it, I have to agree with Blackmoor and would prefer the whole "Fred" nonsense to go away. I think it is cliquish and non-newbie friendly, something that we are accused of too often on these boards. 5ER is a perfectly acceptable abbreviation that is easy-to-understand and shorter to type. :)

Rod

You might have a point. But how exactly do you pronounce "5ER"? Would it be: "fiver"? :confused:
"Five-ee-are" just doesn't work for me.
At least FREd was easily said. :)

[zornwil]

I hate the term FRED, both for logical reasons as rjcurrie states and just because it sounds stupid as I think forms the basis for bblackmoor's vitriol (I'm not so outspoken in general, but I share his disdain, I simply hate the name; maybe it'd be different if I were here at the time but I tend to thinik not).

I think 5ER is easy to pronounce either way, though I say "Five-ee-are," it's only one more syllable than ReFRED.

[rjcurrie]

Well, of course, there is a big difference between reading something in print such as on the boards and saying something in conversation. While here I might write "5ER", in conversation, I would likely say "Fifth Revised".

Rod

[Vondy]

Well, of course, there is a big difference between reading something in print such as on the boards and saying something in conversation. While here I might write "5ER", in conversation, I would likely say "Fifth Revised".

Rod


Not "fiver?"

[Black Rose]

I call it FREd here and when speaking with those friends of mine who actually play HERO. If I were to speak of it to the unanointed, I'd probably call it "Hero Fifth" or "Fifth Edition" (I don't have any other games that are in their fifth edition, so it works. Personally, I like thinking of it as Fin; you know, the out-of-date Americanism for a five dollar bill?

You know, when we do finally get to sixth edition, the cover artist is going to have to do something truly impressive with the hexagon. I mean, six sides, sixth edition; synchronicity, baby.