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grymlocke
Apr 26th, '03, 11:00 PM
I am seeking players (or GM so I could play...) for heroic campaigning, I can do supers, but prefer the lower pt. games....

Pattern Ghost
Apr 27th, '03, 01:26 AM
I'm in Rancho Cordova. I'd be up for a game, as a player.

grymlocke
Apr 27th, '03, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by Pattern Ghost
I'm in Rancho Cordova. I'd be up for a game, as a player.

GREAT !! i'm near you (out by sac state)...
I have FRED (ofcourse) and champions and now star hero....a few ideas floating around, but whats you preffered flavor of game?

Pattern Ghost
Apr 29th, '03, 03:21 PM
I'm not too picky. I might like a heroic or lower level game, though. Keeps things simple, shorter combats, etc. I've got Fred and Champs 5E.

grymlocke
Apr 30th, '03, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Pattern Ghost
I'm not too picky. I might like a heroic or lower level game, though. Keeps things simple, shorter combats, etc. I've got Fred and Champs 5E.

I'll get busy then....we can hook up at great escape games or viking hobby, I need to post a notice also....

Nolgroth
May 2nd, '03, 03:19 AM
Have you determined genre and point range for whatever you are going to be playing? Have you determined what days and times? I might be able to join in, assuming there is a spot open at the table.

grymlocke
May 2nd, '03, 01:10 PM
so far you two are it....front row seats, prime spots.

:D

so far I'm thinking heroic pts....something in the sci-fi feild, seeing i just picked up starhero, or supers (I have champions too)....whats your prefs?

Nolgroth
May 2nd, '03, 01:25 PM
Never got into the Champions/Super-Heroic genre. Much better to read the comics IMO. I do like the Star HERO idea and fantasy is another big genre for me. I can play either Friday or Saturdays. I work swing shift during the week. Friday is my only day off and I work the day shift on Saturday.

I am not opposed to GMing. So if you want to round robin the GM seat, I can do that.

grymlocke
May 2nd, '03, 09:40 PM
fridays work for me...i have a board of directors (BoD) meeting and general meeting (GM) for a club I belong to on the 2nd (BoD) and 4th (GM) fridays, but the others are wide open....my endurance gives out about 12(ish) though....saturdays are open, evenings?

weekdays i work day shift but by the time i get home after fighting traffic i'am to stessed by then to be good company for anyone.....:rolleyes:

heroic sci-fi (and fantasy when its out) are my favorites.....have a few ideas, i'll start tinkering......

Pattern Ghost
May 3rd, '03, 09:27 AM
Friday works. I'll have to see about the location, as I'm car-less.

I'm also willing to run a gam e, provided you all worship me and pay all of my expenses:

http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3237

:D

Star Hero sounds good. I haven't got it, but might get it once the cult thing gets rolling along. Haven't done any SF gaming since Traveller with a really bad GM back in the late 80's.

grymlocke
May 3rd, '03, 10:26 PM
traveller was my first scifi game.....awww, the memories.....

I haven't gm'd in several years, so a bit rusty....great escape games has tables (free) and is located basically at the corner of howe and arden

a nice neutral location to meet up at, game some, get to know each other, then possibly move to a better site.....

i'll start work on something....

you can also e-mail me

Nolgroth
May 9th, '03, 06:28 AM
If you don't have anything presenting itself to your creativity and don't mind some fantasy related stuff, I have some ideas for a campaign setting and even a few adventures.

On the other hand, sci-fi is really tempting right now. Any clue as to whether it will be Traveller-esque hard sci-fi or more space operatic in nature?

Reln
May 10th, '03, 08:37 AM
Hi guys I've talked with nolgroth before via email about his fantasy game...thou I would not turn my nose up to Star hero either. I too live in rancho and may be up for something on alterneate Fridays, but the girlfriend must get some quality weekend time also. You mentiond Great Escape Games. I've frequented there ofteen and used to game there a lot severl years ago before the remodle. Anyway keep me posted here or via email and we'll see what we can get going. I have a copy of Fred, Hero Designer, UMA, and Besteary.

Nolgroth
May 11th, '03, 09:17 PM
One of the big events that was taking up a lot of my personal time has now concluded and I should have more time to devote to other stuff, such as games. I'm still very interested in getting together and meeting some of y'all. Like I said earlier, I am willing to try just about anything with the HERO system. I'm not partial to superheroic, but I am interested greatly in Fantasy, Sci-Fi or even a modernish conspiracy theory campaign (X-Files, Dark Conspiracy, etc.)

I am only a few steps away from being ready to run a Fantasy HERO game, so if you are interested, I can wrap up the few little notes that are needed. I am also interested in the Star HERO game proposed by Grymlocke.

I think that about sums it up.

grymlocke
May 11th, '03, 10:57 PM
I'm thinking traveller(ish) heroic points....mainly because thats the type of game i learned on, trek(ish) stuff is fine for the 'ol idiot-box, but way too PC for my taste....I like it grittier.........got no bones against fantasy, just waiting for 'ol stevie to finish ( i got BIG plans for that book...)never really a martial arts fan, sorry.

Rules will be based on FRED, Star hero, Bestiary, (have chamions, reading it now)...and any porting from source material that i like...

(anyone want ot help me build aliens?)

Reln
May 11th, '03, 11:42 PM
Just to let you know UMA has a lot of stuff that works good for hero/fantiasy genra as well. Like an Archery Package, Rifelman, Weapons Combat (fantasy Swordsman), fencing, Handgun style.

I'm not really intrested in a Martal Arts Asian style game either I got the book because it works great for other genras too.

Pattern Ghost
May 12th, '03, 10:16 AM
Does anyone know if either store mentioned can be reached in any reasonable amount of time by bus from Rancho? I'm car-less. I may be able to get a friend (with car) to play, but not sure. He'd be a Hero newbie if so. If the light rail lands in the vicinity, I may be able to make it, since it tends to be much faster than the bus.

Nolgroth
May 12th, '03, 11:03 AM
Option 1) Lightrail to Power Inn exit. Call 321-BUSS for schedules from Light Rail to Howe/Arden intersection.

Option 2) Lightrail to Watt/Manlove exit. I pick you up from there.

Just a couple of ideas....

Nolgroth
May 12th, '03, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by GrymlockeI'm thinking traveller(ish) heroic points....
You're speaking my lingo so far. Especially about the PC Trekkie stuff. I tend to put B5 in Space Opera, but that has to be my favorite TV show genre. A tad more gritty and realistic (in terms of political interaction) than Trek.

......got no bones against fantasy, just waiting for 'ol stevie to finish ( i got BIG plans for that book...)never really a martial arts fan, sorry.
Not that I need the Fantasy HERO book, but I also am waiting for it to come out. I'm sure there are going to be tons of useful things to refer to in that book.

Keep us posted on your progress. I will try to build an alien species or two for you. Any guidelines?

Also, I'm still pushing for the face to face meeting before we actually begin play. Any ideas on time or place? We have two out in Rancho (one relying on public transportation), so that would be convenient for them. I work out of Rancho, so there is an added level of convenience for me. I am open to anything at this point. Anything I'm missing?

I actually believe this may work. Hmmn. Face to face role-playing after all this time. Should be fun. :)

Pattern Ghost
May 12th, '03, 03:15 PM
Either of those options would work. Might be faster for the pick up.

If you guys wanted to meet out here, we could probably find a spot, but I think those two game stores are the closest, so we'll probably have to use those for gaming.

Who's up for exchanging phone numbers via PM? Might be faster to hash out some details.

So far, I have a head count of four, and two game ideas tossed out there. If we do the rotating GM thing, I've got a couple of ideas I'd like to try as well. One monster-hunting, somewhere between Silent Mobius and early Buffy: TVS in tone, and the other a supers game with limited origins (almost common origin game, but some variety), NCM and low (and restricted) disads.

grymlocke
May 12th, '03, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by Pattern Ghost
Does anyone know if either store mentioned can be reached in any reasonable amount of time by bus from Rancho? I'm car-less. I may be able to get a friend (with car) to play, but not sure. He'd be a Hero newbie if so. If the light rail lands in the vicinity, I may be able to make it, since it tends to be much faster than the bus.

I could car pool with you...i'm near the Howe Av sation if you could 'ight rail it out this far....then we can zip up howe to arden and the game store.....

great thanx everyone !!! I love the responses, this looks like it will ACTUALLY get going...WOOHOO !!

I'm thinking, friday nights (every other week?) or saturdays sometimes....sundays are bad (family day) and weekdays I work days and spend the evenings recovvering (to go do it all again the next day....) besides, I need to watch Buffy, Smallville, Angel, Enterprise....(good sources of insparation...lol)

icq # 26389867

Nolgroth
May 12th, '03, 11:15 PM
I am definately up for alternating Fridays. I can also go for Saturday afternoons, but I work until 3 PM, so I wouldn't be available to start until after 3:45 - 4:00.

Pattern Ghost, you seem to have two options and Grymlocke and I can alternate picking you up if need be. I live near the Watt/Manlove station and he is near the Power Inn (Howe Ave) station so that works out nicely.

I have no problem giving out my phone number, but I prefer to do so face to face (yeah I'm harping on it, sue me). :) What about meeting this Friday afternoon/evening sometime?

Pattern Ghost
May 13th, '03, 12:02 AM
I'm up for a this Friday meeting. Pick a time/place. And thanks to both of you for the carpool offers. =)

Nolgroth
May 13th, '03, 08:44 AM
Across from the Great Escape Games store is a Round Table Pizza. How about there? I have a meeting at noon (business I'm afraid), but should be available sometime after 2 or 3 PM. I like to consider others' schedules, so what works for you? I was thinking that the approximate time we would play might be appropriate....

Which reminds me, what is the policy for using Great Escape Games' tables? Do you have to reserve them or is there generally an "open" table? I am just concerned that, on a Friday evening, all the gaming tables will be filled up. I suppose that I can contact Great Escape myself, but I was wondering if any of you knew.

grymlocke
May 13th, '03, 09:27 PM
I know the RT your talking about, but I can't get their until after 630 or 700...I work til 5:00 or later (from watt/elkhorn area) commute back to howe/folsom, take care of the critter ( very spoiled macaw..) got to give him some one-on-one time and unwind myself before I can even think of facing the outside world again, odd? I know, but something about the press of unwashed masses, the bumper to bumper that leaves me wanting a cool room and personal space/time....besides, it gives the traffic a chance to thin out a bit.....

Pattern Ghost
May 13th, '03, 10:04 PM
I hear ya on the traffic. Either timeframe works for me, as long as we don't go so late that the train stops running, whatever time that is.

Cool on the macaw too. I've got critters as well, scaled type. Allergic to the hairy type.

Nolgroth
May 14th, '03, 02:33 AM
I'm really close to the Watt/Manlove station and it is functionally "on the way." Perhaps it would be more convenient for me to pick up Pattern Ghost than for Grymlocke to.

On to the game specifics. What point range are you shooting for Grymlocke? Also, did you come up with any guidelines for creating alien species? What special considerations should we be aware of?

To the other players (Rein are you still there?), should we collaborate on developing intertwined character backgrounds? I think we should for two reasons. The first is ease in starting the campaign. The second is that the characters will presumably have a motive for remaining together for a long period of time. Thoughts?

Pattern Ghost
May 14th, '03, 03:14 AM
On the alien-building: Count me in. As nolgroth says, just let me know what the guidelines are.

On the campaign backgrounds: We could always go for a ship's crew. Something like the crew on Firefly or Cowboy Bebop might be appropriate. Smaller ship trying to make do, some characters with a common background, others who were picked up later, overall a collection of misfits. Allows for some variety but also for some commonality. Common goals, common enemies, etc.

On the ride: Watt/Manlove is very convenient, and I appreciate the ride. Thanks.

On the time: Did we pick one yet?

Reln
May 14th, '03, 09:26 AM
Sorry guys i've totaly missed the last round of this Thred. I'm in for every other Friday (GF would get mand if I did every friday). Fun thing when i asked her about it i said she needs to start GWOG "Girlfriends and Wives of Geeks" A support organization for our women folk that don't understand our passion for gaming.

Anyway I live at Sunrise and Caloma I'd be happy to pick up pattern ghost (real name?) for the game. I'm down with getting together friday night.

I"m going to go out on a limb here and try to set something in stone.

Location: Round Table Pizza Howe ave. accros for GEG.
Time: 6:30pm
Date: May 16th

Ok guys my name is Doug, I'll PM you all with my email addess.

Pattern Ghost
May 14th, '03, 11:10 AM
Real name: Brian

e-mail:

blblalock

then put an ampersand in there

attbi.com

die spambots!

The e-mail function on the board also goes to a valid account, but I don't check it as much.

Nolgroth
May 14th, '03, 11:22 AM
The Round Table at 6:30 on Friday the 16th would be good for me.

As we make our plans, keep in mind that Grymlocke also has other commitments for the Fridays were are not gaming. We should ultimately settle on those days he's not conflicted. I'm too lazy, at the moment, to go back over the whole thread, but I believe he mentioned them early on.

Initial contact information:

nolgroth@netscape.net (spam bots do your worst, it's my dump account)

nolgroth (AIM handle)

31739127 (ICQ #)

not in a million years online (cell phone)

grymlocke
May 14th, '03, 10:19 PM
well... 2nd and 4th friday nights I have a BoD (board of directors) and general meeting for the bird club I belong to....sundays are family day, weekday evenings, I have to think about getting up the next day to go back to work (and I'm too lazy...lol )...so, the best times are 1st and/or 3rd fridays, saturdays (preferably AFTER MY 'TOONS !!!... :D )

for this first day, I was thinking a 'get to know -you' meeting...see each other, see if we can 'click' as a possible group....hash out people preferences, coordinate times/commutes/locations (GE Games or residence?..etc,etc...)

I was thnking of a traveller-inspired campaign ...after all, I also have the book 0-8 reprints, the 13 suppliment repriints (good source material in THAT one !! ) and the double adventures reprints....

maybe with a B5 twist? hopefullly (hint, hint...) we can avoid space comedy (PLEEEESE, NO LOST IN SPACE (tv show) CAMPINESS, or (even though I do like the show ) BUZZ LIGHTYEAR OF STAR COMMAND, beside, that is a SUPERHERO space campaign rather than a heroic campaign IMHO....
:cool: isah-right?

Nolgroth
May 15th, '03, 01:43 AM
I don't do light-hearted real well, so I think we are on track. I am very much willing for the 1st and 3rd Fridays. As I said before, anything on Saturday would have to wait until after 4 PM.

Reln
May 15th, '03, 08:11 AM
Fridays are best for me as I often have family comitments crop up on Saturdays as well as Sundays. 1st and 3rd Friday would be great. Are we on for tomarrow at Round Table for a meet and greet? Pizza and Beer?

Nolgroth
May 15th, '03, 10:09 PM
Fridays seem to be the best days. I'm up for tomorrow at 6:30 PM at the Round Table at Howe and Arden. Pattern Ghost, do you need me to pick you up from light rail?

Pattern Ghost
May 15th, '03, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by nolgroth
Fridays seem to be the best days. I'm up for tomorrow at 6:30 PM at the Round Table at Howe and Arden. Pattern Ghost, do you need me to pick you up from light rail?

That'd be great. Might be the fastest way to get me there. What timeframe for the p/u? Give me a call tomorrow sometime and we'll figure out a timeframe. I'll be around all day. Watt/Manlove would work great if you're stil up for that one.

Reln
May 16th, '03, 06:58 AM
I work in the am today (friday) but will be home this afternoon. I can pick you up on the way down Pattern Ghost. Say 6pm i'll call you later for directions.

Pattern Ghost
May 16th, '03, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by Reln
I work in the am today (friday) but will be home this afternoon. I can pick you up on the way down Pattern Ghost. Say 6pm i'll call you later for directions.

OK, sounds good to me. Did you want to swing by my place or meet me at a light rail station?

Nolgroth
May 18th, '03, 05:57 PM
So how did the rest of the introduction meeting go? Any ideas about a place to game? Any specifics about the campaign setting and/or character creation guidelines?

grymlocke
May 18th, '03, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by nolgroth
So how did the rest of the introduction meeting go? Any ideas about a place to game? Any specifics about the campaign setting and/or character creation guidelines?

hmmm, those 2am BS'n sessions wore me out....but I think a certain 'comfort level' was reached by all. See? was I right about meeting in a 'get to know you ' gather first?...ice is now broken, we can beging.....

let me think an jot a few ideas down, and see if it make since......

Reln
May 19th, '03, 07:52 AM
sounds good to me. Meeting everyone was great. I was late for the wedding i was atending on Saterday (overslept).

I was thinking we should move this to email for better comunication.

Pattern Ghost
May 20th, '03, 05:07 PM
Ditto on e-mail. I always tend to forget this board. =)

Meeting went well, I thought.

I think if we snag the back table, that GE could work OK, though a quieter setting would be better.

Nolgroth
May 20th, '03, 10:38 PM
I'm up for the e-mail idea. Any chance of an update on your progress Grymlocke?

grymlocke
May 21st, '03, 09:37 PM
I'm vapor locked....I have ideas for adventures, but setting up the campaign world, even a little bit is......writers bocked, its like the signals from the brain to hand are being rerouted to my FEET !!!!

shortness of breath, feelings of anxiety, impending DOOOM !!!...ARRRGH !!!! :eek:

Nolgroth
May 23rd, '03, 01:16 AM
Relax. I have anxiety and shortness of breath all the time. Then I figure, what the heck. The initial shock of jumping into the swimming pool only lasts for a few moments. Even THOSE parts become accustomed to the cold water. :)

Seriously though, anything we can do, as your players, to assist in making the game world gel a little better in your brain?

grymlocke
May 23rd, '03, 01:16 PM
PACKAGE DEALS !!!, star systems, aliens, ships, equipment, organizations......LOL, tons of it is rolling around in my head but can't seem to flow on to the paper....I've ideas that put the fate of the universe in the pc's hands....impires are created, worlds form from the firment of the imagination, to fade and are replaced by other worlds.....BUT IT CAN'T GET TO THE PAPER !!!!

...GEEZ, I'M HOPELESSS

:(

Reln
May 23rd, '03, 01:43 PM
If you want a darker feel check out SLA Industries there is a bunch of good info on the web and I have all of the books. It would be very cool and I plan to convert it to Hero anyway.

Nolgroth
May 24th, '03, 07:09 AM
Originally posted by grymlocke
PACKAGE DEALS !!!, star systems, aliens, ships, equipment, organizations......LOL, tons of it is rolling around in my head but can't seem to flow on to the paper....I've ideas that put the fate of the universe in the pc's hands....impires are created, worlds form from the firment of the imagination, to fade and are replaced by other worlds.....BUT IT CAN'T GET TO THE PAPER !!!!

...GEEZ, I'M HOPELESSS

:(

Okay. First piece of advise.....chill out! Start with what, we as the player characters, are going to be directly interacting with. Jot down lots of disjointed notes. Whenever you get something, throw it down on paper. Even if it contradicts something you wrote before, now you have the option of choice. Let us know what you need from us.

We have discussed it and decided to create a group-cohesive background to make things easier on you. So, to get input from you, are we on the legal side (long-range space patrol, intel unit, etc) or the shady side (smugglers, pirates, rebel scum, etc.)? Maybe by knowing how we, as PCs fit into the universe, you can better direct your energy. Let us come up with some things. If you haven't got Terran Empire, there are sufficient alien species that we can use as player characters races in there. Maybe our character ideas will jolt something more defined with this vast universe swimming around in your mind.

Oh, and forget about deadlines or anything. No pressure. Honest. :)

Reln
May 24th, '03, 08:12 AM
Well if it helps for a character i was thinking of somthing along the lines of an enhanced human...Genetic or Drug enhancement of sime kind. Maybe ex militar or governement project of some kind. In the projects eyes I was a failier as I don't take orders well and do have a slite superiority complex. Think along the lines of Tyr from Andromida. As far as the group goes I was thinking of being the piolot, as well as haveing some close combat skills (hand to hand and pistols).

Doug

Pattern Ghost
May 24th, '03, 11:18 AM
Definately let us know what we can do to help. And don't worry about the time. If everyone wants to play next time we meet, I can run a one shot game with some pre-gens.

grymlocke
May 24th, '03, 03:36 PM
the thing is....IWANT TO DO THIS !!!! I HAVE A WHOLE UNIVERSE (OR AT LEAST A CHUNK) IN MIND....and i'm stalled, stuck in a mental quagmire, a neural vaporlock as it where......and i'm getting frustrated, time is running out.

:o

Pattern Ghost
May 24th, '03, 05:57 PM
Don't worry, you can't run out of time. It's infinate. =)

Hey, worse case scenario, we meet and brainstorm, or play a one shot just to get our feet wet as it were.

Nolgroth
May 24th, '03, 10:17 PM
Do you need someone else to take over the GM chore until you break the vaporlock?

Pattern Ghost
May 28th, '03, 01:23 PM
So, what's the plan for this week? Same bat time, same bat channel? Except for a slightly earlier bat time to get the good bat table...

Oh, and anyone want to buy a pueblan milksnake, apricot phase?

grymlocke
May 28th, '03, 09:36 PM
same bat time, same bat cave sounds like a bat deal to me.....

I could use help.....

Nolgroth
May 29th, '03, 12:04 AM
I really HATE being a flake, but I will have to excuse myself from this week's meeting. I just got word (about ten minutes ago) that my mom has been hospitalized. It's not terribly life-threatening (broken hip), but I still feel the need to fulfill my family obligation and go down to Fresno for a couple of days.

I will be back for next time and I will check the message boards from my mother's house. I apologize profusely for this. I do want to reiterate my intention to remain part of this group. Keep me updated.

Reln
May 29th, '03, 07:40 AM
Sorry to hear about your mom. I for one do not blaim you at all, familiy is inportant. We'll see you next time.

grymlocke
May 29th, '03, 08:51 AM
wish her the best from me.....

Pattern Ghost
May 29th, '03, 10:28 AM
Ouch. Sorry to hear about your mom. I hope she starts feeling better soon.

Pattern Ghost
May 29th, '03, 10:36 AM
Grymlocke: I can put together something simple for tomorrow if you like, and we can also toss ideas around for your campaign.

I came up with a concept for the SF game: The mechanic/engineer. He's a tall, lanky fellow with two cybernetic arms and long scraggly hair and beard, who goes by the name of Caruso. He was found in the wreckage of a (ship/asteroid mining camp/base/whatever) by the crew of the ship, claiming no prior memories. Dubbed Caruso by the crew, he stayed on as ship's engineer. He's obviously been well-trained, and has some (rusty, mostly forgotten) military training. He's a good HTH combatant. The cybernetic arms don't do anything mechanics-wise other than give him a small physical disad. Mostly they just lead one to wonder...what the heck ripped this guy's arms off? (Maybe he was found sans arms in the first place, and depending on the nature of the group's mission, he stayed on board to pay them back for the arms. Not that the group needs to be philanthropists; they can be cheap black market arms, or old refurbs.) Aside from his technical skills, he's also an accomplished martial artist. He's not much of a shot with firearms, though. I figure he can fix the ship after Reln's character breaks it. =)

Nolgroth
May 29th, '03, 11:35 PM
My mother is doing as well as can be expected for an 70-year old with a broken hip. She is in generally good spirits, except that she is bored out of her wits for all the "needless lazing about." Old people these days! :)

Anyway, thanks for the support. I have a couple of concepts that depend on the amount of points we begin with. Actually, it is the same concept with the point level determining how much fluff I can add. Well, depending on the style of the campaign, every ship needs a trader/fixer/person-who-has-connections. That's my guy. He has contacts among many of the Port Masters authorities and trade guilds. He also has some "other" mercantile skills.

Let me know how Friday turns out. I'll be hanging about and reading any posts. My e-mail is nolgroth@netscape.net (can access through any account) if you want to throw an idea or three off me.

Nolgroth
Jun 3rd, '03, 04:48 AM
So did anything come of the last game session? What point range (if any) was decided upon. Anything happen that was worth mentioning? I will be at the next game session. Just give me a time and place.

Reln
Jun 3rd, '03, 07:37 AM
Well I think what we came to was the decition to just use the Terren Empire game setting and tailer it to our needs. Untill Jerry is done with that he offerd to run RuneQuest (3rd edition) in the mean time. I have played before but Brian has not, have you? are you intrested in anything but Hero?

We are going to meet again this week as it's the 1st Friday of the month. Brian and i will get there early to try and get the back table. like 4:30ish.

grymlocke
Jun 3rd, '03, 08:53 AM
thanks for the help...
I was thinkiing myself in circles trying to come up with a space campaign, guess now you see why? (lol)....I'll do the terran impire book and save my sanity, you realize the more we brain stormed, the more complicated things got?......[ouch]....my head is STILL reeling !!!

RQ, here I thought NO ONE would even remmember much less be interested in that one.....I was thinking of trying an Hero version of RQ, see how well spirit magic translates...

uh, WHEN fantasy hero comes out...

Reln
Jun 3rd, '03, 12:05 PM
I know what you mean with translateing everything to Hero but the thing I love about runequest is the system is so great it makes so much sense. Though now that I think about it a bit it might work out ok.

I for one am very intrested in a RuneQuest game but of corse would still love a Star Hero game.

Nolgroth
Jun 3rd, '03, 12:20 PM
Wow. Big changes from before. This Friday? I suppose you're right. It is the first one. Forgot that last month had five of the little buzzards. What time is the start time? I have to go in to work, but I should be available around 5 or 6 PM.

To be honest, I'm not sure about learning a new system from scratch. I tend to invest money in the books so I can eventually game master the system. I suppose I could try it. Wasn't Runequest a similar system to Call of Cthulhu?

Hurm. Tough choices. I was looking forward to getting refamiliarized with actually using HERO for the daily "grind" (as opposed to neat character and campaign generation). On the other hand, any role-playing would be welcome at this point. Any other options?

Reln
Jun 3rd, '03, 02:01 PM
Yes runequest uses the same system as Cthulhu. It is very easy to learn and is a lot of fun to play...some of my best gaming memeries are from RQ.

I guess the other option would be to go with a FH game but we should wait till the book is out.

Reln
Jun 3rd, '03, 02:46 PM
this looks like some good info for Star Hero too.

http://www.fantasylibrary.com/lounge/quartermain/quartermain.htm (www.fantasylibrary.com/lounge/quartermain/quartermain.htm)

grymlocke
Jun 3rd, '03, 09:40 PM
Nol, its not 'another new system'...rq is an old system, actually, its been out of print since '93....originally created in '78.

doing hero isn't dead....I'm going to use terran empire book, after last friday's...<um>.....exercise, creating from scratch (under a time constraint) proved daunting...

Pattern Ghost
Jun 3rd, '03, 10:44 PM
Actually, I've been reading up on RuneQuest, or more to the point, Glorantha, and it seems to be very good stuff. By the way, any idea what area we'll be playing in? I could read up some on the background for the specific area online beforehand.

Nolgroth: The mechanics are pretty simple. I haven't played RQ, but I have 1st or 2nd edition Stormbringer (pre renaming to Elric and renaming back to Stormbringer) and the system is similar, though a bit more complex for RQ. It's pretty much percentile based, shouldn't take too much effort to get the hang of. Also seems like all the pertinent info is right on the character sheet. (Correct me if I'm wrong, guys.) Do a google for "Glorantha" and check out the setting. It's some pretty cool stuff.

Nolgroth
Jun 3rd, '03, 11:02 PM
Don't take me wrong, I am more than willing to try Runequest. My reservations are more about my own willpower when it comes to "owning" the rules books. Even out of print, there are copies out there. E-Bay isn't an addiction to me, but I know how damn useful it can be. Even buying the Runequest rules (3rd Ed. right?) isn't inherently bad, there is just a pretty large chance of me not using them again later.

I own Call of Cthulhu 4th and 5th editions, so I am familiar with basics. If the Runequest follows the CoC structure, just about everything you'd need is on the character sheet.

Awww heck, count me in. No sense in being a weenie about it. If I don't like it, I can excuse myself later. I do still have to go in to work. It's payroll day and I have to get the checks sorted and out to the sites. I can go in early enough that I should be available around 5 PM or so.

Pattern Ghost
Jun 4th, '03, 07:54 AM
I know what you mean about owning the rules. At one point, I used to have tons of material I never actually used.

Reln
Jun 4th, '03, 03:29 PM
There is a huge fan base out there that is keeping Glorantha alive. There are two very active Maling lists one Glorantha and one for the RunQuest System.

I have charicter sheets so just bring your pencils on friday.

By the way if you really want a copy of the book talk to me about it I may be able to work somthing out.

grymlocke
Jun 4th, '03, 09:59 PM
I have my RQIII book spiral bound, I'm sure a we can work the kinko's <wink,wink> out of any problem about not having the rules....

I have griffin island box set....

once fantasy hero comes out (i might do this for RQ too) i was going to use greyhawk as the campaign world...(i love the living greyhawk gazetteer)...easy conversion really

sometimes I wonder why I try scifi, I love the genre, but I aways do better with fantasy than modern/future scifi stuff.....

Reln
Jun 9th, '03, 08:56 AM
Well guys Friday was fun. Though I do like the Idea of finding a quieter more relaxed place to game. Jerry if your cool with it your place sounds fine. James we missed you on friday, did the check run go OK?

Keep in touch and let us know where the game is going to be on the 20th.

Nolgroth
Jun 9th, '03, 10:45 PM
Sorry I missed the game. I had a really bad case of stomach flu combined with a really bad fever. That's twice I have to feel like a dummy.

Can anybody help me make a Runequest character before the next game? I really have no clue on how anything works in the system.

Thanks for the patience.

-James

grymlocke
Jun 10th, '03, 07:31 AM
no problem, you'll be playing with a couple of centaurs....

do I have your phone #?...we where goiing to move to my apt. to play (less noisy).....

Nolgroth
Jun 10th, '03, 07:52 AM
Yes. I have a phone number. I am loathe to post it to a public forum. I will be real busy at work today and tomorrow. Thursday I should be okay, but I believe we work opposing schedules. Hmmmnnn. It is a puzzle. How about you tell me which dice I roll for random stats (if any, yuck) and throw together a basic human warrior type. Perhaps a paladin or knight archetype, if applicable. Since you're the GM, I trust you will balance him to your setting and the other characters.

Reln
Jun 10th, '03, 05:13 PM
so I was thinking maybe make him a one of the contacts that we Centars used to trade with the human setalments. Just give him some skill in the Centar language.

grymlocke
Jun 10th, '03, 09:36 PM
LOL...
I suppose you would need a translator seeing none of you speak anything other than your own language.......

I could make him the surviving son....revenge makes a good adventure motive....

Nolgroth
Jun 10th, '03, 11:02 PM
So does anybody else here wonder why our little Player Finder thread has so many messages compared to the rest of them?

I like the idea of some sort of emissary or contact between the centaurs and humans. His background is important, but I have very specific ideas about how I want to play the character.

Any way to see a basic write-up online?

Reln
Jun 19th, '03, 09:03 PM
Just wanted to find out if we are playing tommarrow...Friday the 20th. Where are we playing and when should we get there.

Doug

grymlocke
Jun 19th, '03, 10:12 PM
as far as I know....yes

I'll give you all my home address at that session so we can move from that crowded store (i'd of done it before, but my place is a mess...
:rolleyes: )

Nolgroth
Jun 19th, '03, 11:17 PM
I'm in (finally). Where are we playing/meeting?

grymlocke
Jun 20th, '03, 01:07 PM
great escape...last night there, then we move to my place..ok?

Pattern Ghost
Jun 20th, '03, 01:55 PM
I'm in for tonight. Just hope Doug gets my voice mail. Had to deal with some moving stuff this afternoon, but got it out of the way.

seeeyaaa

Ranxerox
Jun 22nd, '03, 04:16 PM
Yo, do you guys have any openings left in your game? I live in Stockton but I'm used to commuting since I commute to work in Modesto 5 days a week. Sacramento doesn't seem too far to drive every couple weeks though I wouldn't be able to make games that started before 5:30 pm.

I own FREd and Star Hero, and I have experience as both a player and a GM with the HERO system.

Nolgroth
Jun 22nd, '03, 07:00 PM
Well, don't know about the others, but I'm not opposed to an additional player, especially since we are losing one to the whim of career advancement. :)

Reln
Jun 22nd, '03, 08:39 PM
Definatly welcome to join us we need another player or two...Grimlock how many do you want? By the way our next game is schedualed for 4th of July...I don't know about you all but I plan to be at a bbq of some sort. So I'll see you all at Great Escape Games on July 18th.

Doug

grymlocke
Jun 22nd, '03, 10:07 PM
I'm not opposed to another player, we're just about to start...just have patscience with me, I'm a bit out of practice with hero (about 3 years...) we just did a filler thing with runequest to mainly make me feel at ease (sorry guys, but its true.:D...)

As to the fourth, It'll have to wait, I'm going to the rivercats game at 6:05 and the fireworks after... isle seats near firstbase.... aint gonna give those up... it's gonna have to be the 18th then.....

also, working on web page for game update, downloads and 'other info'......will post its location soon

Ranxerox
Jun 24th, '03, 05:53 PM
Cool. Please count me in:cool:

Since I'm entering into the game late, is there anything that I can do to catch up a bit? Also are you guys still playing RQ or have you moved on to HERO (Oddly enough I think I know a store that has a copy of the RQ rulebook if that is what you are playing).

- Scott

grymlocke
Jun 24th, '03, 09:32 PM
I put them through a quicky RQ adventure (a basic BROO hunt...they killed a farm family and the PC's where hunting them down ....and encountering members of the famitly killed as zombies set as traps....

I hadn't played in years, wanted to limber up the old imagination musle...but ONE of the group didn't like the system and threatened to leave if didn't switch to hero.... :rolleyes:----> :D

so that means on the 18th, we begin the hero game, char creation, etc....maybe do RQ as a separate group on a different night...... if its a good price, i'd pick up the book...but that me, I appreciate the old systems....

Nolgroth
Jun 24th, '03, 10:57 PM
Hurm. Didn't think that I exactly threatened to leave. I did complain about Runequest and there is no denying that little bit of fact. My one and only complaint about Runequest is the combat system seems to be just as complicated as HERO and relies on charts as much as Rolemaster. As far as character creation and basic mechanics go, Runequest isn't terribly bad.

I think another thing that I wanted to point out (and failed miserably) is that all of us have more current knowledge of the mechanics of HERO system as opposed to RQ. Even the two veterans were more than "rusty" on how things worked. For my opinion, HERO makes more sense.

That being said, I am more than willing to continue with Runequest. I only ask that a little bit more definition to the game setting be given. There seemed to be a little flip-flopping the other night and I just want to have some idea of how the setting works. I actually really like my character concept and the way he turned out. I have nothing to judge him against, but the concept was really defined when the "Bad Man" interceded in his creation process.

In regards to the group, it has been a pleasure from the start. I personally had fun each time we met. No complaints there.

July 18th!?! Ach! That long eh? Just as I get a "fix" of IRL role-playing, the substance of addiction is denied me. Isn't that poetic justice considering my attendance record. :) See you then.

Oh, and finally, I am more than willing to "sub" as a GM if you need me to. I know that every GM has dry spells, so if I can help by being the relief hitter, let me know.

grymlocke
Jun 25th, '03, 08:51 AM
I was only yanking your chain...that's why the :rolleyes: --->:D
smileys....
Since the 4th is the game night and everyone seems to be gone then....the next friday, i'm busy...after that is the 18th...

unless there is another day?...we try but friday was the only one every could get at the same time...

besides, I could of dug out the CHIVALRY & SORCERY....RQ was a snap compared to that system.


:cool:

Nolgroth
Jun 25th, '03, 01:05 PM
Alas, but Fridays are the only day I have off. I would even suggest the occassional Saturday or Sunday afternoon, but I often find myself working up to four hours past my scheduled shift on those days.

Chivalry and Sorcery? There are limits to even my vast patience. :)

I can keep going with RQ. I would just like to obtain a copy of the rules (primarily a legal copy) and read up on it. In my group, I was the Gamemaster by Common Assumption. As we all know, GMs have to learn quick and be part rules lawyer. Given the souce material is handy, I should become rather comfortable with the rules in a relatively short amount of time.

But, to play the Devil's Advocate one last time, as cool as the RQ game is, the concept could be carried over to HERO with great success. Much more extensible at later stages of character development too. ;)

Until the 18th then! Happy Independence Day and be well.

Nolgroth
Jun 25th, '03, 01:29 PM
I just placed a bid for the RQ book from Avalon Hill (Deluxe 3rd Edition) on e-bay. I recognized the cover from Reln's and Grymlocke's books, so I think I may have the correct version. Still over two days left on the bid, so I'll let you know how it turns out.

Reln
Jun 25th, '03, 04:00 PM
Ok lets do this democratic like. My vote is to switch to Hero. I don't care if it's Fantasy or Sci-Fi. Nolgroth and I talked a long time ago about a Darksun fantasy hero (post apocalypse fantasy). I'd be willing to do a lot of the background work on this and could have a lot done by the 18th. Though Nolgroth would be running the game.

grymlocke
Jun 25th, '03, 10:14 PM
I'm working on the hero stuff...really, terran empire has potential, like a cross between b5/star wars....

Nolgroth
Jun 25th, '03, 11:24 PM
First off Reln, I appreciate your enthusiasm for the Dark Sun - style Fantasy HERO game that we discussed. However, I have no desire to step on Grymlocke's toes. If you want to play an alternate setting/genre when Grymlocke burns out (as all GMs do eventually) then I will be more than happy to set up a game. I want to be a productive member of this group and not create discontent.

I believe that Grymlocke is working on the Star HERO stuff. He's got a busy schedule so let's cut him some slack. If playing/running RQ is helping him stretch his atrophied GM muscles, then I will support him.

All that being said, I will say that I prefer HERO to RQ. I post on these boards after all and have spent gobs of money buying everything released by DOJ except the Champions stuff. I see something inherently superior, in HERO, to other game systems and I would like to stick with it. Also, if I pick up the ball and run a game session or five, it's not with the intent of shunting Grymlocke out of the picture. I would do so only to give him time to sit back and get into the groove with his own stuff.

I guess what I am trying to say, is that I want this to be a fun experience without too much pressure from us on Grymlocke. As much as I would like HERO, I will be flexible if something else comes up.

(Interlude: The RQ tech levels are very similar to the DS tech levels. The only real difference is the "feel" of the settings. Dark Sun is definately a very gritty setting. RQ has struck me as a particular kind of bland, but that could be because of my unfamiliarity with the Glorantha setting.)

Grymlocke, just keep us posted on what you want to do and what you need from me, as a player or relief hitter, to make the game better. Just in case, I will start working at putting together a session or two worth of stuff for the setting.

Nolgroth
Jun 25th, '03, 11:27 PM
Oh yeah, ranxerox, it seems like there is no objection to your presence, so welcome aboard. Your input into this conversation would be welcome at this point.

Ranxerox
Jun 26th, '03, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by grymlocke
so that means on the 18th, we begin the hero game, char creation, etc....maybe do RQ as a separate group on a different night...... if its a good price, i'd pick up the book...but that me, I appreciate the old systems....

Excellent. I will circle the 18th on my calender. I look forward to meeting all of you.

Grymlocke, as you get more of the details about your campiagn please post as convience allows. This way when the 18th comes I will already have an idea what type of characters are and are not appropriate. No rush though. I know that you are busy and it takes time to hash this stuff out much less type it out.

- Scott

grymlocke
Jul 1st, '03, 01:26 PM
anybody up for thursday night?.....

Reln
Jul 1st, '03, 02:54 PM
I can't this thursday...got to much going on with a 4th party being at my place the next day.

Ranxerox
Jul 1st, '03, 06:20 PM
It is a shame that Thursday does not work for Reln because since I have the 4th off it would be a good night for me to stay out late.

Thursday the 10th works also but not as well since I have to work the next morning. Still it is doable.

Nolgroth
Jul 1st, '03, 11:02 PM
I work Thursday nights. I even have to work Friday. It's okay because I traded a day to have my daugher's birthday off (kinda). I will be available the 18th. Also, if there is a possibility of a weekend day after 3 PM, I can think about that.

grymlocke
Jul 2nd, '03, 08:48 AM
i can do sat. nights.....

Ranxerox
Jul 2nd, '03, 06:09 PM
Saturday nites are doable if we can finisht up by 10pm.

grymlocke
Jul 2nd, '03, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by Ranxerox
Saturday nites are doable if we can finisht up by 10pm.

ok, let me noodle this through here, you can go to 10pm....whats your start time?

who was it that said they could play till after 3pm? nolgroth..

reln? what saturdays can you do?


or maybe just stick with the fridays?

...my head hurts... :p

Reln
Jul 3rd, '03, 10:55 AM
OK I can do the ocational saterday/sunday...This week is a bad as I'm hosting a 4th party and then going river rafting on the 5th. I can also play any day of the week other then Monday. As far as hours, I'm open right now since I'm unemployed.

My weekends are often full of verious family responsibilites so I can not promise any regularity on weekends.

Doug

grymlocke
Jul 3rd, '03, 01:05 PM
it was lucky just to get everyone together twice a month....

Nolgroth
Jul 3rd, '03, 10:46 PM
I'll see everybody on the 18th! :)

Ranxerox
Jul 15th, '03, 05:47 PM
OK, I'll be the one to break bulletin board silence.

To everyones knowledge are we still on for Friday, and if so what time are we to meet?

Reln
Jul 15th, '03, 08:45 PM
Well as usual i'm still unemployed so I can be there as early as....well when do they open. But I would perfer somthing closer to start time not that sitting there and reading all day would be bad. What time is everyone else going to get there? I think 4pm should be early enough to get the back table.

Doug

grymlocke
Jul 15th, '03, 09:29 PM
well, worlk till 430....road rage'n til 530 (friday, late afternoon, at least an hour to crawl home)...decompress time (you don't want me gaming all tinse and agravated...dice roles tend to do stange things...lol)

I'm still thnking moving to my place might be better in the long run.....

page will be posted at geocites for game info...address to follow

grymlocke
Jul 16th, '03, 09:27 PM
My new E-mail is grymlocke@hotmail.com

Pattern Ghost
Jul 16th, '03, 10:23 PM
You guys start playing Star Hero yet? Or still on RQ?

Washington is cool.

Except for young ladies driving with cel phones in their ears. One of those rearended the heck out of me today. (No injuries so far, though.) I might have to look into a FTF group here after we get the car fixed.

Nolgroth
Jul 16th, '03, 11:24 PM
Ranxerox broke the silence! You lost the "Who can be quietest?" competition. Pizza's on you!

I'll be there around 6 PM. I don't care if it's the store or Grymlocke's place (well, do you have cats?). I don't care if it is Runequest or Star Hero. It's time to play! I do have to leave around 11 PM at the latest, as I have to work at midnight in Rocklin.

I have the Spacers' Toolkit if it will help.

Did I forget something? Oh yeah, if it is Star HERO, do you want us to speed things up with characters pre-generated before play? If so, what point base?

P.S. I'm hyper tonight for some reason. No chemicals involved!

P.P.S. Did you say something about a website?

P.P.S. Just kidding about the pizza Ranxerox. See the P.S. comment above. :)

Nolgroth
Jul 16th, '03, 11:28 PM
Pattern Ghost,

try very hard not to get in accidents. They hurt! I'm thinking about setting up an IRC or similar game on Sat. afternoons. Do you want me to keep you posted?

Ranxerox
Jul 17th, '03, 06:56 AM
Six to eleven works well for me too. If grymlocke is still decompressing, I'm sure we can find something to do until he shows up.

Hey grymlocke, what is the address of that geocites web page?

Well, see you guys tomorrow:cool:

Reln
Jul 17th, '03, 07:58 AM
Yay Free pizza:D... Anyway last we talked we where going to switch to star hero unless Grim isn't ready. Other then that i'll be there early on friday so if anyone can get there before 6 to keep me company. I'm thinking for this week we should keep the game at the shop...We don't know who this Ranxerox guy his best to meet him in public ;)

grymlocke
Jul 17th, '03, 08:56 AM
I was planning friday being a hero creation night, bring your books (FRED at least..)

my page will go up as soon as I get a name for the campaign.

no, I'm not really ready to run an adventure...I want to use the night as a creation session to get COMPATABLE characters ready...remember, your members of a tramp freighter in the 'off the beaten path' areas of the frontier....its a firefly(ish) kind of thing.....so, we see what happens.

Pattern Ghost
Jul 17th, '03, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by nolgroth
Pattern Ghost,

try very hard not to get in accidents. They hurt! I'm thinking about setting up an IRC or similar game on Sat. afternoons. Do you want me to keep you posted?

Definately.

Ranxerox
Jul 17th, '03, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by Reln
Yay Free pizza:D... Anyway last we talked we where going to switch to star hero unless Grim isn't ready. Other then that i'll be there early on friday so if anyone can get there before 6 to keep me company. I'm thinking for this week we should keep the game at the shop...We don't know who this Ranxerox guy his best to meet him in public ;)

Good point Reln. I might eat too much of that Pizza and hurl over gryms carpet:p Better to be safe. Don't know whether I will be early or not. I'm planning on leaving Stockton early to allow for traffic. If traffic moves smoothly I'll be a bit early but what are the chances of that?

grymlocke
Jul 17th, '03, 07:40 PM
i'm working on an idea for package deals and age......got the adea from traveller and runequest....to gain a career package (cop, pilot, etc...) you have to actually work in that proffession for a number of years (adding to your chronological age ).....that way, being an ex- top imperial navy fighter pilot, ex- intelligence service agent turned freelance bounty hunter YOU WOULD NOT BE 18 YEARS OLD !!!....I've always felt unconfortable with the idea one could buy all these package deals and not age, unless you bought the disad !!!!

hope I don't drag you all the way up from stockton for nothing.....now i'm stressed !!!!! :eek:

Nolgroth
Jul 17th, '03, 10:37 PM
No pressure. :) Really! It's just the fate of an entire game campaign hanging in the balance. You should not feel any pressure at all. :) (I think, sometimes, that I am evil. The rest of the time, I know it!)

The additional age thing makes sense. As long as we get to choose and not roll on some Traveller-esque random life event chart, I'm good with that. Just add a couple of years to reflect the time needed for training an honing of skills and I'll buy it.

grymlocke
Jul 18th, '03, 01:04 PM
WOO_HOO !!! FH is on it way to our FLGS !!!!

i want, i want, i want (WAAAA ! WAAA !)

:D

grymlocke
Jul 18th, '03, 01:04 PM
WOO_HOO !!! FH is on it way to our FLGS !!!!

i want, i want, i want (WAAAA ! WAAA !)

:D

Nolgroth
Jul 18th, '03, 01:42 PM
Can't wait myself. It's been driving me crazy what with the anticipation and all. Did we ever determine game location?

Reln
Jul 18th, '03, 02:39 PM
i think we're at the game shop one more time

Nolgroth
Jul 18th, '03, 02:52 PM
Cool. I'll be there.

Nolgroth
Jul 19th, '03, 01:12 AM
As much as I am loathe to give up the opportunity to game in a face to face environment, this evening was the last session for me. Thank you all for the consideration in inviting me to the group. I really appreciate that. I hope that you all have fun with the game and have a long and enjoyable run at it.

=Nolgroth

grymlocke
Jul 19th, '03, 06:35 PM
ok, fine....
since there is no point to even tying THE CAMAPIGN IS CANCELLED...NO GAME, NOT NOW OR EVER.......<PERIOD>

there is no point even trying with only two people, I might as well stay home at that point.....sorry reln, ranxerox, lost one to a move upnorth...now this,

weeeellll scerewit !! (go ahead and report the language,to the boardmaster, I DON"T CARE !!!)....

oh, and to show you I am a vindictive SOB, I deleted you out of my addressbook, icq, buddy list here and thinking about adding you to the ignore list.

if you others want to do something you have my email.......




:mad:

Ranxerox
Jul 19th, '03, 06:43 PM
Nolgroth, I would like know why you are leaving the group so that I can attempt to talk you out of it. If it is because something that I said or did that you found rude or offensive, I would like to apologize and say that it was unintentional.

Like many nerdy males, I don't have great people skills and don't always know how to approach new people. You seem like an interesting person and I hope to get to know you better. If I did not seem to be trying last night it is just because that I am shy.

On the other hand, if this is not because something that I or one of the others did but has something to do with schedule or time constraints maybe those problems can be worked out somehow.

Please respond and at least let us know the reasons for this discission.

Nolgroth
Jul 19th, '03, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by grymlocke
ok, fine....
since there is no point to even tying THE CAMAPIGN IS CANCELLED...NO GAME, NOT NOW OR EVER.......<PERIOD>

there is no point even trying with only two people, I might as well stay home at that point.....sorry reln, ranxerox, lost one to a move upnorth...now this,

weeeellll scerewit !! (go ahead and report the language,to the boardmaster, I DON"T CARE !!!)....

oh, and to show you I am a vindictive SOB, I deleted you out of my addressbook, icq, buddy list here and thinking about adding you to the ignore list.

if you others want to do something you have my email.......




:mad:

My case in point. This is the same kind of outburst that brought me to the decision last night. All of you, good luck.

grymlocke
Jul 19th, '03, 09:47 PM
and it's self-centered, narsasisic flakes like you that drove me out of gaming....

Nolgroth
Jul 19th, '03, 10:04 PM
Narcissistic? Well okay here's a couple of points. One, I was asking a question about character creation, as it related to the stage of creation that I was at (e.g. equipment). Not to blast the other players, as they had really nifty ideas, but I was past the theory stage and onto the practical application of finishing my character. I don't think the outburst you made against me was warranted or fair. Also, I had specified very clearly my time constraints and had sat patiently for over two hours while you dealt with the other players. I don't think that five minutes of the GM's time was an unreasonable request. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that you were ready to organize and run a game. You wanted to, but the sheer volume of work involved overwhelmed you. Just my opinion.

I choose to game because it is a relaxing and fun activity for me. I won't hang around an abrasive and hostile environment in some futile attempt to relax. If that is being a flake, then I am guilty as charged. As to being narcissistic, your quick condemnation and self-superior attitude is enough for you to earn that label for yourself. I hope this doesn't drive you from gaming. I'm sure that there are players out there that will enjoy playing with you. I think your maturity level will dictate how you handle it from here.

This is my last reponse to you. I am rather glad you removed me from any address books and buddy lists. I tend to associate myself with those I can respect, and you have clearly proven that to be unlikely. Once again, I wish you the best of luck.

Nolgroth
Jul 19th, '03, 10:07 PM
I had no issue with you last night. Your ideas and creativity are really excellent. If your people skills were not at a gregarious level, I don't blame you. It was a first meeting between you and us. You were still full of input and ideas. In any case, you cannot talk me out of it, especially in light of the conversation on these boards since then. I wish you well and hope for the best.

grymlocke
Jul 19th, '03, 10:26 PM
just go....

Reln
Jul 20th, '03, 12:42 PM
WOW...Didn't see that comeing. I have to say Jerry that your response on this board was uncalled for. Don't get me wrong when I first read James was quiting I was bummed but wanted to know why, my first thought was not to call him a quiter. Then your outburst answerd it for me. I personlay get along with many persinality types so I have no problems with any of you.

This being said I'm still intresed in a game...Jerry said there is no point with only three people, so are the rest of you intrested in doing something.

James, Darksun Hero?
Or hell I'll even run something

Reln

Ranxerox
Jul 20th, '03, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by grymlocke

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since there is no point to even tying THE CAMAPIGN IS CANCELLED...NO GAME, NOT NOW OR EVER.......<PERIOD>
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grimlocke, you aren't interested in continueing with your campaign with the reduced body count (understandable). However, would you be interested in being a player in someone elses campaign?

Ranxerox
Jul 20th, '03, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by Reln


This being said I'm still intresed in a game...Jerry said there is no point with only three people, so are the rest of you intrested in doing something.

Reln

Reln, you can pencil me in for anything that is Hero related as long it doesn't conflict with my work schedule ... and we have enough people to make it work.

grymlocke
Jul 20th, '03, 10:03 PM
ok, with some time now past to blow off steam his quiting isn't really what gets me mad, its the weasly way he did it.... using this board instead of talking to me in private is cowardly, rude and shows lack of....maturity.

sure, I admit I lost a bit of control, but by airing problems here, he gets what his deserves.....a compromise/solution MAY have been worked out.

I don't bite the heads of small woodland creatures for spite, you have a problem, talk to ME..not use this board...what the group does is between the group, not public comsumption.

I'd be willing to try and play in something....but for now, thats all i'll do.

if you want more explanation, i'll talk F2F...not here.

reln, you up for RQ sometime? or should I just burn THAT book too?

grymlocke
Jul 20th, '03, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by Ranxerox
Reln, you can pencil me in for anything that is Hero related as long it doesn't conflict with my work schedule ... and we have enough people to make it work.

not three people...two, one has to run the game, so he doesn't count.

grymlocke
Jul 20th, '03, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by Ranxerox
grimlocke, you aren't interested in continueing with your campaign with the reduced body count (understandable). However, would you be interested in being a player in someone elses campaign?

sure...play in,

grymlocke
Jul 20th, '03, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by Reln
WOW...Didn't see that comeing. I have to say Jerry that your response on this board was uncalled for. Don't get me wrong when I first read James was quiting I was bummed but wanted to know why, my first thought was not to call him a quiter. Then your outburst answerd it for me. I personlay get along with many persinality types so I have no problems with any of you.

This being said I'm still intresed in a game...Jerry said there is no point with only three people, so are the rest of you intrested in doing something.

James, Darksun Hero?
Or hell I'll even run something

Reln

read my post....and be enlightened grasshopper....

Reln
Jul 20th, '03, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by grymlocke
not three people...two, one has to run the game, so he doesn't count.

Yes and no, running the game is a very important function. I guess we could say two players, but I as GM often run a player like NPC if the group is small. I'm still up for RQ but I've really been psyched about Hero lately, I haven't gotten to play since FRED came out.

I would have liked to have seen a compromise reached but it looks like everyone overreacted to this.

Ranxerox
Jul 22nd, '03, 08:23 PM
Seeing as we are currently in limbo, I would like to make a proposal to get us out of limbo. On August 1st (our next meeting by the old plan), I could start GMing a Terran Empire based Star Hero game. The game would be use 150 pt characters with 75 base and 75 max disads. Characters built with grymlocke's campaign in mind should do just fine.

Unlike grymlocke's campaign mine would begin in 2684 (his was to be in the reign of Mirissa III, 2633-2651) and the Terran Empire would be in revolt). This is because Marissa III's reign did nothing to stoke my creative juices and I have hasd good luck in the past running campaigns with large social upheaval backdrops.

Ideally, everyone would show up their character already written up and actual play would would start on August 1st. However in order to do that I would need affirmative responces from at least 3 player in addition to myself.

This offer is extented everybody who was present at the July 18th meeting including Nolgroth, anybody they wish to invite with them, and anybody who lives in the greater Sacramento area who reads this board and would be interested in showing up.

- Scott

Reln
Jul 22nd, '03, 08:31 PM
I'm up for that. I would suggest that we let this thread die and you start a new thread…oh and name it something different. I really like the character I’ve been working on so any chance to play him will be great. Do you have Hero Designer? I’ll email a copy of him to you if so.

-Doug

Ranxerox
Jul 23rd, '03, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Reln
I'm up for that. I would suggest that we let this thread die and you start a new thread…oh and name it something different. I really like the character I’ve been working on so any chance to play him will be great. Do you have Hero Designer? I’ll email a copy of him to you if so.

-Doug

Thanks Doug:)
I have the 4th Ed Hero Designer and I don't know if the it can open up 5th Ed Hero Designer files. If you want to send your e-mail your character we can give it a try if you like. Another alternative would be to print the character to a file (only some printer drivers will do this) and send the file as an attachment. I could then open it with Photoshop.

However, unless at least one of the other two sign on I think my proposal is dead in the water. We might be able to dig up one additional Hero player willing to commit but I doubt we can find two.

- Scott

grymlocke
Jul 23rd, '03, 09:25 PM
I emailed the thread master to see if he can delete this thread...no response.

anyone up to stating a yahoo group for us to exchange files at? only invited members...focused on what ever campaign is running....?