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Dr. Anomaly
Jun 5th, '05, 09:03 PM
I touched it! My precious!
I held Steve's Pulp Hero notes / manuscript rough in my hands.
I got to read some bits and pieces of it.
Pulp Hero is going to be so frikkin' awesome that everyone must buy 2 copies!
Curufea
Jun 5th, '05, 09:28 PM
I hope you didn't drool on it :)
Dr. Anomaly
Jun 6th, '05, 07:22 AM
I was drooling, but not on the manuscript. (I used a napkin to mop up.)
Heck...I don't smoke, but I felt like I needed a cigarette after flipping through it!
John T
Jun 6th, '05, 08:02 AM
Heck...I don't smoke, but I felt like I needed a cigarette after flipping through it!So if we find ashes in the binding we'll know who to blame, right? :D
At least the smell will add to the "atmosphere" of the setting. :p
John T
Dr. Anomaly
Jun 6th, '05, 08:32 AM
So if we find ashes in the binding we'll know who to blame, right? :D
At least the smell will add to the "atmosphere" of the setting. :p
John T
:rofl:
If you can find ash from my "virtual" cigarette that may have dropped into the rough manuscript in the binding of your published production copy (when it becomes available at GenCon) then you must have about +90 with Perception! :D
Either that, or one heck of an imagintion...
:snicker:
Mentor
Jun 6th, '05, 10:36 AM
I am becoming extremely anxious to get my hands on Pulp Hero. I already created my character. We have set up a campaighn starting in 1905 and are in "freeze frame" mode, just waiting for the thing to ship.
Dr. Anomaly
Jun 6th, '05, 12:33 PM
I am becoming extremely anxious to get my hands on Pulp Hero. I already created my character.
You'll probably want to do some tweaking after you see what's in it. :sneaky:
proditor
Jun 6th, '05, 01:08 PM
Two things:
1) You lucky lucky man. I am extremely envious as Pulp just flat out rules. I can't wait to be able to get PH and do some Doc Sidhe work. ;)
2) When I saw the thread title my first thought was "This isn't a 'Bec NGD post, is it?"
TheQuestionMan
Jun 6th, '05, 01:12 PM
I touched it! My precious!
I held Steve's Pulp Hero notes / manuscript rough in my hands.
I got to read some bits and pieces of it.
Pulp Hero is going to be so frikkin' awesome that everyone must buy 2 copies!
I am so enveous you rat bastard!!!
I mean that in the niced way
QM
Dr. Anomaly
Jun 6th, '05, 01:59 PM
:D
:D
:D
TheImperialKhan
Jun 6th, '05, 02:00 PM
I hope you didn't break it, Doc.
Cause if Steve has to start all over again...
I'm going to hunt you down...
...and KILL YOU!!!!
Lethosos
Jun 6th, '05, 02:06 PM
Stop touching yourself man! Especially in public!
...Oh, you were talking about Pulp HERO manuscript... Still, bad boy! You've mighti've gotten dirty fingerprints all over it now! :p
Dr. Anomaly
Jun 6th, '05, 02:52 PM
I hope you didn't break it, Doc.
Cause if Steve has to start all over again...
Oh, no worries there...it was quite intact when I gave it back to him! :whistle:
Mentor
Jun 6th, '05, 03:08 PM
Oh, no worries there...it was quite intact when I gave it back to him! :whistle:
Still, I'm kind of green about it, Dr. A. :D
Steve Long
Jun 6th, '05, 03:08 PM
Not to worry, o Khan -- I always have multiple backups, which I made special with my Dynotronic Xeroginator. ;)
Dr. Anomaly
Jun 6th, '05, 03:24 PM
Still, I'm kind of green about it, Dr. A. :D
I don't blame you! :D
( ;) )
Dr. Anomaly
Jun 6th, '05, 03:25 PM
Not to worry, o Khan -- I always have multiple backups, which I made special with my Dynotronic Xeroginator. ;)
So it wouldn't have been a devestating blow to the project if I'd "borrowed" it for a more extended perusal..? Darn it! The things you find out too late... :sneaky:
TheImperialKhan
Jun 6th, '05, 06:46 PM
Phew. I was worried for a minute there. I'm much better now. :)
So, Doc, how cool is it?
And, Steve, keeping multiple back up copies is a very good thing.
Dr. Anomaly
Jun 6th, '05, 08:59 PM
So, Doc, how cool is it?
Well, keep in mind I only had maybe 10 or 12 minutes for a very cursory browse, so please understand when I say that it's
WAY FRIKKIN' COOL!!!!
John T
Jun 6th, '05, 09:14 PM
WAY FRIKKIN' COOL!!!!Hmmm... I might be goin' out on a limb here, but I'm guessing you liked it, yes? :p
And how many points IS a Dynotronic Xeroginator, anyway? :winkgrin:
John T
Super Squirrel
Jun 6th, '05, 10:05 PM
I touched it! My precious!:ugly:
I held Steve's Pulp Hero notes / manuscript rough in my hands. :doi:
I got to read some bits and pieces of it.:straight:
Pulp Hero is going to be so frikkin' awesome that everyone must buy 2 copies!:weep:
Curufea
Jun 6th, '05, 10:11 PM
I'm hoping (speaking of stains earlier) that in the book layout process, they artistically put the odd coffee stain on some pages :)
TheImperialKhan
Jun 7th, '05, 03:13 AM
Well, keep in mind I only had maybe 10 or 12 minutes for a very cursory browse, so please understand when I say that it's
WAY FRIKKIN' COOL!!!!
Awesome, Doc!!
I can hardly believe that after twenty frickin' years we're only a couple of months away from the return of PULP!!!
It was a time long ago.
A time when a younger nation had stumbled.
A time when the future of the American Dream was in doubt,
and Dark Forces were let loose upon the World.
A time when two-fisted heroes battled the forces of evil,
and men of science struggled to build a better world.
The year is 1935.
The Place is Hudson City.
Now step into the world of...
PULP HERO
Super Squirrel
Jun 7th, '05, 03:25 AM
I know I can't wait. I've already started designing my pulp campaign on this very site.
Steve Long
Jun 7th, '05, 03:50 AM
how many points IS a Dynotronic Xeroginator, anyway?
I'm sorry, but that information is only available to members of the Secret Hero Brigade.
Membership applications for the Secret Hero Brigade will be taken as soon as I can find a place that will manufacture secret decoder rings for me. ;)
FenrisUlf
Jun 7th, '05, 08:57 AM
To DrAnomaly: you lucky stumble-bum!
Myself: Woohoo! I cannot wait for this book to come out.
Though I do sometimes wonder just *why* Pulp roleplaying is so perennially popular. Is it the style? The history? the totally weird factor? (Nazi cyborg gorillas from the Earth's core!) Any input?
Oh yes -- will there be any sample characters (heroes and villains) in the book?
Steve Long
Jun 7th, '05, 10:20 AM
I do sometimes wonder just *why* Pulp roleplaying is so perennially popular.
It's not. If it were there would be more successful Pulp games. One could even argue that there's never been a truly successful Pulp game (since I don't consider CoC "pulp," really). Pulp is a perennial favorite of game designers, and of a certain segment of fandom, but sadly it doesn't enjoy any particular popularity among the greater mass of gamers.
The things that makes it feasible for us to pursue as are genre are (a) the history of associating the genre with Hero via JI, (b) the existence of a group of Hero fans that will buy just about anything Hero, and (c) the fact that Pulp does seem to enjoy a high degree of popularity among Hero gamers (at least if the comments I've been getting are any bellwether). If I were going to publish an all-new game of some sort, I probably wouldn't pick Pulp. But as a HERO System genre, I think Pulp has a solid chance at success. At the very least I expect it to do as well as DC or NH.
Oh yes -- will there be any sample characters (heroes and villains) in the book?
Soitanly! ;) As in our other genre books, there are five heroes (Randall Irons, Hamilton Cross, Bill Ferguson, Lili Winchester, and Liz Murdock) and five bad guys (SS-Oberfuhrer Hermann Eichenwald, Dr. Emil Locke, Vinnie "the Axe" Coletti, Dr. Jennings Petrie, and Akash Varmandali).
JTesla
Jun 7th, '05, 11:57 AM
(b) the existence of a group of Hero fans that will buy just about anything Hero
True, very true, fortunately I’ve not bought every HERO product, but the sad thing is a little voice in the back of my head is telling me I should. The Pulp book will probably be last, as I have no interest in the setting, but that little voice keeps saying “make the collection whole, it will contain little gems to use someplace else.” Must resist… will not buy every product… bah I give up. :weep:
John T
Jun 7th, '05, 12:20 PM
It's not. If it were there would be more successful Pulp games. One could even argue that there's never been a truly successful Pulp game (since I don't consider CoC "pulp," really).CoC is what I refer to as Cosmic Horror; don't know if there's a "legit" term for the sub-genre. It just happens to be set in the generally accepted pulp era, and so tends to be really good source material... if you like to have the occasional mind-blasting cosmic terror lurking around some corners of your pulp campaign (I do :D).Pulp is a perennial favorite of game designers, and of a certain segment of fandom, but sadly it doesn't enjoy any particular popularity among the greater mass of gamers.I'd almost go so far as to say that historical-fiction based games, in general, don't seem to do as well, but I'm no expert on the subject.The things that makes it feasible for us to pursue as are genre are (a) the history of associating the genre with Hero via JI, (b) the existence of a group of Hero fans that will buy just about anything Hero, and (c) the fact that Pulp does seem to enjoy a high degree of popularity among Hero gamers (at least if the comments I've been getting are any bellwether). If I were going to publish an all-new game of some sort, I probably wouldn't pick Pulp. But as a HERO System genre, I think Pulp has a solid chance at success. At the very least I expect it to do as well as DC or NH.Well, for myself, there are a lot of Hero books I want ("Uuhhh... ALL of 'em, I think..." -John Connor, T2); Pulp Hero is one of the books I feel I NEED. :D
John T
Steve Long
Jun 7th, '05, 12:27 PM
I’ve not bought every HERO product, but the sad thing is a little voice in the back of my head is telling me I should.
Not only is that little voice not sad, it's absolutely, positively correct. Stop fighting! Give in! Your life will be more meaningful and enjoyable. Food will taste better, women will be prettier, the sunshine will be brighter if you buy more Hero books. :hex:
Steve Long
Jun 7th, '05, 12:29 PM
I'd almost go so far as to say that historical-fiction based games, in general, don't seem to do as well, but I'm no expert on the subject.
That's a fair statement. At best, what most gamers want is not a historical setting or historical info, but a historo-dramatic "feel." Witness, for example, the relative success of L5R (a fictional Japan) and Sengoku (a game with so much cool historical data that I'm told it's been cited by college professors in papers). Obviously there are other factors there, but it's a telling point, methinks.
OK, enough thread derailment! Back to Pulp Hero!
Lamrok
Jun 7th, '05, 12:54 PM
CoC is what I refer to as Cosmic Horror; don't know if there's a "legit" term for the sub-genre. It just happens to be set in the generally accepted pulp era, and so tends to be really good source material... if you like to have the occasional mind-blasting cosmic terror lurking around some corners of your pulp campaign (I do :D).
I think the Cthulhu stuff is pretty inextricably linked to the era it is set in. For many readers, the Cthulhu horrors were horrors of science, driven by certain allowances for mass hysteria. Lovecraft was thinking about legends of Mu and contemporary astronomy when he wrote the stories. Most of his readers were born in the 19th century. I think the juxtaposition of frighteningly old vs frighteninly new was what gave the stories a lot of their staying power.
This tension between old and new is part of the fun that drives the whole pulp genre. It will undoubtedly be covered in Pulp Hero. (see, back on topic)
Dr. Anomaly
Jun 7th, '05, 02:43 PM
...there are five heroes (Randall Irons, Hamilton Cross, Bill Ferguson, Lili Winchester, and Liz Murdock) and five bad guys (SS-Oberfuhrer Hermann Eichenwald, Dr. Emil Locke, Vinnie "the Axe" Coletti, Dr. Jennings Petrie, and Akash Varmandali).A-yup! ;) I'll vouch for that. And watch out for Randall Irons' hook! He really packs a wallop!
Curufea
Jun 7th, '05, 03:41 PM
Not only is that little voice not sad, it's absolutely, positively correct. Stop fighting! Give in! Your life will be more meaningful and enjoyable. Food will taste better, women will be prettier, the sunshine will be brighter if you buy more Hero books. :hex:
Aside from the 4th ed superhero-specific books (a genre I stopped collecting after the 3rd ed) - I think I'm missing the pre-1st ed Hero stuff (ie Autoduel Champions). Otherwise - a nice shelf full of stuff :)
Although I think I have given the 1st ed away to someone as a present a few years ago :(
Steve Long
Jun 7th, '05, 04:28 PM
And watch out for Randall Irons' hook! He really packs a wallop!
Well, sure, when the player rolls a frickin' 31 or whatever it was on 7d6. I don't remember the player's name, but his dice were definitely hot that game!
st barbara
Jun 8th, '05, 04:28 AM
7d6 with a punch ! What's that guy's strength ?
Steve Long
Jun 8th, '05, 07:09 AM
It's 15. Then he has some Boxing maneuvers.
TheImperialKhan
Jun 8th, '05, 07:10 AM
Probably only a 15. But a Hook is +4D6 according to the Modern Boxing manuevers in UMA.
Dr. Anomaly
Jun 8th, '05, 07:39 AM
Well, sure, when the player rolls a frickin' 31 or whatever it was on 7d6. I don't remember the player's name, but his dice were definitely hot that game!
Yeah. I thought I'd done pretty well with the damage I'd rolled with Lili's martial arts kick, but that just totally left me sitting in the dust! (And I'm afraid I can't remember his name, either.)
FenrisUlf
Jun 8th, '05, 11:54 AM
Well, sure, when the player rolls a frickin' 31 or whatever it was on 7d6. I don't remember the player's name, but his dice were definitely hot that game!
Well, this is Pulp; the heroes are supposed to give the villains a good pounding in the end!
And it will be good to see Randall Irons & Hamilton Cross statted out; I've been wondering what they looked like, character-sheet wise, for years.
And if I may ask, just what support material is ahead for Pulp Hero? Or has that been covered elsewhere?
Lethosos
Jun 8th, '05, 11:58 AM
And it will be good to see Randall Irons & Hamilton Cross statted out; I've been wondering what they looked like, character-sheet wise, for years.
Should I say it?... should I?
Yep.
Sidekick, p.82 "Example Character." There's Randall Irons right there. ;)
FenrisUlf
Jun 8th, '05, 12:02 PM
Okay, but I don't have Sidekick and probably won't be getting it anytime soon. Definitely not as soon as Pulp Hero.
TheQuestionMan
Jun 8th, '05, 12:29 PM
I touched it! My precious!
I held Steve's Pulp Hero notes / manuscript rough in my hands.
I got to read some bits and pieces of it.
Pulp Hero is going to be so frikkin' awesome that everyone must buy 2 copies!
Uhmmm... Heh Steve you better check the manuscript to see if there was anything added. I wonder if the good Doctor might turn up in those sacred pages as an anomaly.
Serieously
QM
Dr. Anomaly
Jun 8th, '05, 12:42 PM
Uhmmm... Heh Steve you better check the manuscript to see if there was anything added. I wonder if the good Doctor might turn up in those sacred pages as an anomaly.
It just so happens I didn't have a copy of my character sheet with me! :tonguewav
...'cause I would have had to have converted it to the pulp era first, and I didn't, because I didn't know I was going to have such a wonderful opportunity...
( ;) )
Steve Long
Jun 8th, '05, 04:33 PM
just what support material is ahead for Pulp Hero?
In the "Our Pages" section, there are pages detailing the 2005 and 2006 schedules that cover this. ;)
Mister E
Jun 17th, '05, 03:20 AM
It's not. If it were there would be more successful Pulp games. One could even argue that there's never been a truly successful Pulp game (since I don't consider CoC "pulp," really). Pulp is a perennial favorite of game designers, and of a certain segment of fandom, but sadly it doesn't enjoy any particular popularity among the greater mass of gamers.
The things that makes it feasible for us to pursue as are genre are (a) the history of associating the genre with Hero via JI, (b) the existence of a group of Hero fans that will buy just about anything Hero, and (c) the fact that Pulp does seem to enjoy a high degree of popularity among Hero gamers (at least if the comments I've been getting are any bellwether). If I were going to publish an all-new game of some sort, I probably wouldn't pick Pulp. But as a HERO System genre, I think Pulp has a solid chance at success. At the very least I expect it to do as well as DC or NH.I've been a fan of these kinds of stories, since I started reading... so yes, I'm picking up this book. I just finished Dark Champions, and I really liked it. It might even be by favorite genre book, so far... though that's a tough call I'm not going to make.
Another interesting fact, at least to me, is that one of my best friends, (a guy in my gaming group who, up till now, still only owns the main 5e book), has told me that Pulp Hero, if it's as good as you say it's going to be, will be the first suppliment he buys for the game.
He's a big fan of Flash Gordon, and has even picked up a few of the old talking black+white movies, as well as several hours of the really old radio broadcasts, (which I've listened to... and I must say, Max Von Sidhow's voice is much easier on the ear, than the freak they used for Ming the Merciless, back then.)
Old Man
Jun 17th, '05, 06:09 PM
(b) the existence of a group of Hero fans that will buy just about anything Hero,
You mean we're not all like that?
BigJackBrass
Jun 18th, '05, 02:53 AM
Should I say it?... should I?
Yep.
Sidekick, p.82 "Example Character." There's Randall Irons right there. ;)
Probably the funniest thing in HERO for me is the fact that Randall is hunted by a character called Bruce Forsythe. Might not make much sense outside of the UK, but this link http://www.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/2004/04/22/comedancing/ or a quick Internet search should clue you to the fact that Brucie is in his late seventies, has been in showbusiness for over sixty years and wears a decidedly dubious toupee. Maybe Randall isn't as tough as he's been made out...
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