Ranged Senses with No Range

[BobGreenwade]

I've been trying to build a Detect in the Radio Sense Group, which as Range built-in, but with No Range (-1/2). The Limitation isn't available (the program claims that the Power doesn't have Range, which it does) and I can't figure out how to make it available.

[Simon]

HD is correct. Senses are not Ranged Powers. The "Ranged Sense Modifier" is distinct from the Ranged Power Advantage.

There is no mechanism in the rules for removing an inherited Sense Modifier from a Sense.

[BobGreenwade]

That's very odd. I've come across published several items (Terran Empire and/or Spacer's Toolkit -- I don't have my books with me right now, but I can bring them tomorrow) using exactly that mechanism.

[Simon]

Nope. They're using a custom Modifier.

The "range" on senses is not the same as Ranged Powers.

Your sight does not operate at Range -- it perceives things that are a ways away. There is a difference. Perceiving things at Range is Clairsentience.

[fredrik_nilsson]

That's very odd. I've come across published several items (Terran Empire and/or Spacer's Toolkit -- I don't have my books with me right now, but I can bring them tomorrow) using exactly that mechanism.
The playtest of Spacer's Toolkit didn't include any, but it had several Sight Group Images with No Range. I read it without Images first, so you might have done the same misstake?

[BobGreenwade]

The playtest of Spacer's Toolkit didn't include any, but it had several Sight Group Images with No Range. I read it without Images first, so you might have done the same misstake?No, I came upon this while trying to transcribe a piece of equipment from a book into HD. I'll get more info tomorrow in case you (fred) need more clarification.