Invisible Minds?

[Rechan]

Edward Cummings in the MC book doesn't have the Invisible Powers adder. Nor does Psimon, etc.

Now, how is it their abilities aren't invisible, but if they were visible, they would be obvious? If Edward was using his Mind Control on an audiance, and it didn't have the adder invisible power, then they would see it.

How's this work? Are mental powers inheritly invisible? What's the haps, man?

[Blackjack]

Mental Powers are, in general, invisible to all but the Mental Sense group. Since most normals don't have Mental senses, they can't detect the source of the power. Once the person is attacked by the power, he DOES know he's been attacked, UNLESS the attack's affect beats the targets EGO by +20. So, a powerful mentalist doesn't need to buy Invisible on his Mental Powers as long as he's pretty sure he can beat his target's EGO + 20. For normals, that means the mentalist only needs to roll a 28 on the attack dice: an average roll on 8d6... Thus, the "Invisible Power Effects" isn't necessary for the characters you mentioned...

Now, if the Mentalist rolls poorly or someone in his audience is mentally tougher than average, he may tip his hand... Sounds like a good way to introduce a plot. ;)

[Rechan]

I see, I see...

YES! The Siren is still viable! Bwhahaha. :)

[Rage]

hey to be immune to psychic attacks do you buy invisibility to mental powers or desolid to mental powers?

[Delthrien]

I would say that, to be "immune", you'd have to buy desolid to Mental powers... but then, you'd have to buy all your other attacks and abilities with the appropriate advantage to be able to use them while "desolid." Of course, if you've got a flexible GM, then you might be able to get around this.

OTOH, if you wanted a character who's just damn difficult to lock onto with mental powers, I'd go with the Invisibility. The FX could be any number of things -- The character can mimic the minds of others, deflect/block/shunt "mind beams", or maybe he's just really good at "blending in," being able to totally clear his mind of thoughts.

My two bits. Probably overpriced.

Charlie

[Killer Shrike]

Check out this post in the Rules Questions Forum:

http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2943


However, the most direct way to make oneself practically 'immune' to mental powers is to just buy a respectible amount of EGO and Mental Defense. Mental Damage Reduction can be taken now as well.

[Yamo]

To make yourself immune to Mental Powers, wouldn't Inherent, Always On Mental Group Invisibility be the most effective?

[TheEmerged]

Nope, because that only means you can't be perceived by Mental Senses (and under certain house rules, invulnerable to Telepathy). Make that invulnerable to Sight & Mental and you've got a problem...