Iceman vs. Mister Freeze

[Kevin Scrivner]

A confrontation guaranteed to generate chills. Marvel's heroic mutant master of cold versus DC's villainous frozen scientist. Which one would win, and why? Who is truly the coolest? Given their similar powers, could they even hurt each other?

Iceman condenses and freezes moisture from the air to produce a variety of effects: Armor, Force Fields and Force Walls, Flight, Energy Blasts, Entangles. He's in trouble in low humidity areas (if the confrontation is in Phoenix, it'll be real short).

Mister Freeze duplicates many of these effects with a portable freeze ray (which comes in various sizes and power capacities). The armored suit he wears to keep himself at sub-zero temperatures also grants him robotic strength. He doesn't fly but he usually has a cadre of henchmen and an armored vehicle equipped with his refrigeration ray.

Honorable mention to other members of the Frozen Chosen such as Captain Cold, Jack Frost, and Hero Games' own Icicle. Is there another contender who'd make a better match? Do cold characters make better heroes or villains?

[CrosshairCollie]

I had to fling this one to DCs Killer Frost, who had the ability to drain body heat from people to kill them ... she could even drain the nuclear heat of Firestorm!

[Lord Liaden]

DC also had the superheroine Ice, for a while a member of the Justice League, with powers similar to Iceman's. At one point she gained a major infusion of power, granting her Storm-level control of wind and snow in addition to her ice powers.

In a confrontation between Iceman and Mr. Freeze, Freeze's powered armor will give him a major edge in any hand-to-hand conflict with Bobby Drake, if he gets that close. OTOH, if Iceman can hit Victor Frieze with an ice projectile hard enough to rupture his armor and expose him to ambient temperature, Victor will be out of the fight in short order.

In other words, it depends. (Ouch, that fence is sharp!) :p

[death tribble]

I am with Crosshair Collie on this.

Killer Frost is one of my favourite villains and I have her original appearences in Firestorm.

Otherwise the vote would go to Mr Freeze. Another poster elsewhere uses the latest version of Mr Freeze as his avatar. And he is a D20 player, not Champs. Besides he is a Batman foe and has a great weight of history, the Schwarzenegger film not with standing.

[JmOz]

Got to give this one to Iceman, he is just way more powerfull

[Rage]

Ice Man,

He has the long range and close range advantage. Freeze is smarter than Drake but that doesn't matter much cause... ummmmm I said so.

Does anyone remember what White Queen did when in control of Bobby's body?

[Hermit]

Originally posted by Lord Liaden

In other words, it depends. (Ouch, that fence is sharp!) :p

You get used to it :)

I went with Iceman, but only barely. One has to keep Victor's genius into account and that might make the battle more even.

And yes, Killer Ice was sexy in that "What's wrong with you guys?(A lady friend's question)" Kind of way. :)

Darn dangerous as well.

[Delthrien]

Planning, Planning, Planning...

I'd say if there were sufficient planning, Freeze would win out. If Iceman were trapped/lured into a chamber where he had no moisture to work with, he'd be in deep trouble...

Of course, I haven't actually picked up a comic book in more moons than I can count, so I don't know if there have been any modifications to either character. This results in my having to rely on a somewhat faulty memory...

[SuperPheemy]

I have to give it to Iceman. Even if Bobby and Vic met in the Sahara, the first time Mr. Freeze used any of his powers he'd feed Bobby's condensation abilities. Once Bobby figured that out, he'd do some nasty things to the power armor.

Besides, he's one of the original X-Men. All that experience makes an awful heavy counterbalance to Genius.

[Morningstar]

Do you guys realize that Iceman is now living ice, not just covered in ice armor? He doesnt need condesation anymore. He just had a hole punched clean through his chest and he is not dead. They are starting to take him closer to his Age of Apocalypse character. I think at this point he would thrash Freeze easy.

[mrswing]

Iceman just has way more possibilities with his powers. And he doesn't need cold to hurt/immobilize Freeze : he can just create a huge ice boulder and dump it on him.
I remember those stories in Thor and X-Factor when Iceman's powers got out of control and he had to wear this belt to keep them under wraps. At full unleashed power he was a challenge to the gods.
And WAY back when a mind-controlled Iceman once gave Spiderman and (pre-Apocalypse) Angel a serious run for their money in an old PPTSS issue...
So Bobby Drake all the way!

[Catacomb]

Drake...no contest.

[RDU Neil]

I have to give this to Ice Man. I'm a DC head... and a Bat fan... but too many of Batman's villains are just guys with gimmicks, and there is no reason why the cops shouldn't be able to take 'em out, except the writers write them as incompitent. Mr. Freeze should have taken a high powered rifle shot through his glass helmet (ooohhh scary!) a long time ago, from a SWAT officer. Snart, the Flash's nemesis Captain Cold is another guy with an icegun, but he at least is interesting.

IceMan (from the comics, not the movie) is incredibly powerful, and would mop the floor with any other ice character, including Killer Frost. While she absorbs heat, she is vulnerable to cold attacks (purposefully non-intuitive part of her powers) and this makes Ice Man perfect for taking her out.

[Dean]

Of all the cold based characters in both Marvel and DC universes, I would have to give the nod to Polar Boy. Face it, he will still be going strong a thousand years after all the pretenders are dead and buried! :)

[Spectrum]

Iceman. More experience and more versatility with his powers.

[dbsousa]

X-Men 2's Bobby Drake destroys Batman and Robin's Mr. Freeze.

[dbsousa]

whoops, double post.

[Tim]

Iceman,

Someone else has already mentioned this, but during X-Factor he got a major amp up by Loki to the level of elemental. Most writers forget this though and write him as a clown.

TimS.

[Wyrm Ouroboros]

Well, he still IS the fun-loving California surfer dude guy we all know and love; he just happens to be a fun-loving California surfer dude guy who can turn the entire Greater New York area into a new polar ice cap.

Take THAT, Mr. Freeze!!

[Urklore]

Don't be insane! Bobby's powers are only limited by his imagination. And with his new abilities to alter his form into a solid icy mass or a liquid icy state he is nigh invulnerable. Plus he can increase his mass and body shape. All he has to do is turn into a large 8' tall hulking mass of spiky ice with frickin' huge mega-fists, add the fact that he is made of solid ice! No contest, hands down. What is Poor Mr. Freeze gonna do? Huff and Puff and freeze all his stuff?

[Pseudo Nymh]

Iceman.

It just seems like he would win to me.

[fauxgemini]

Iceman is immune to cold, and he can not only freeze but defrost. Take a look at recent Uncanny to see Bobby, moving ice scuplutres around like puppets. Freeze, unfreeze, freeze, etc.