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SuperBlue
May 17th, '03, 07:21 AM
You are in the middle of a battle (along side 6 other super-Hero teams) with Dr. Destroyer when he clutches his chest and falls over (Heart Attack). His armies are still attacking people, and overall just reaking havoc.

What do you do?

Mayday
May 17th, '03, 07:51 AM
Lose a phase from sheer surprise?

Mayday : Go for the Paramedics roll if I can get through the armor, and drug him if hes not outright dying on me. He WON'T die on me if I can help it, grandpere has had several heart attacks himself so medication is in my bag and I know what to do. Teammates will take care of the minions and I will attack any who try to capitalize on this after a warning to stop.

Wraith : Haymaker. Unless he's spitting up blood take him out then deal with the minion hordes and any other objectives given by PRIMUS, such as securing nuclear weaponry. If he dies, so be it. If he dies at my hand I will face the board of Inquiry and any reprimand stoicly, but I know and you know that I am likely to receive a slap on the wrist by my superiors and my fellow heroes don't like my PRIMUS affiliation anyway.

ShadowCross : The other hero teams are likely mopping up the army of minions while we used them as a distraction to get onto the base/island and accomplish something vital, like shut down a nuclear launch. So we will do that and fight those in our way. As far as I know he has not triggered her intent to kill so will focus on the strongest minion and work her way down while keeping an eye out. If he moves (let alone gets up) throw an RKA his way and keep going. Probably one of the other teams will kill or incapacitate him however. If not one of mine will. Probably NoirBuck or Fletch.

Sabre : Noone on the team is a medic, but if the troops see Dr. D is down and in our hands they should give up the fight, so pick him up and leave very publicly, head for the nearest US Navy or Army base. Sabre moves extremely fast and the base will have facilities to check his condition and keep him out of action.

Hermit
May 17th, '03, 08:24 AM
Lone Star- Shoot dawgie, time to grow to full height, pluck that Doctor up, and wave him like a banner and yell out "Your leader is down, withdraw, withdraw!" Then try to get him some medical coverage. Breaking up the war will save more lives, so that's first priority.

Slammer- He saw me and fainted, damn, I am in the big leagues now. After making a PER check, I realize he could be dying. Hate to do it, but call a more experienced hero for guidance on this one.

Surge- Oh, fantastic. I'm facing the modern face of evil and he's dying on me? Scan his armor for any electrical activity, arc tunnel a few goons in the immediate area to clear some 'space', then, if need be, open up the armor enough so I can jump start the cretin's heart. Would also take this chance to depower certain of his armor systems so when, which is more likley than if, the ingrateful SOB tried to betray us for saving him, I could flick him off like a clapper.

Wildcard- The guy's a massmurderer, and karma is finally catching up to him. Take this chance to make sure he goes unconscious and stays there, if he dies, well... I'm crying no tears, and couldn't have happened to a nicer #$#$.

Mayday
May 17th, '03, 09:38 AM
Salvo: Dr who? Doesn't matter, Kill him. He started this war so why are you asking me to play with kid gloves? Same for his army. They knew what they were getting into when they signed up and autofire strafing the area will even the odds quite a bit.

lemming
May 17th, '03, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by Hermit
Would also take this chance to depower certain of his armor systems so when, which is more likley than if, the ingrateful SOB tried to betray us for saving him, I could flick him off like a clapper.

Oh man, the players in my game should be grateful that none of them are playing armored heroes right now. CLAP ON!!! CLAP OFF!!!

thanks hermit for a entertaining idea.

SuperBlue
May 17th, '03, 07:36 PM
My Turn.

Super Blue - try to save his life. Killing him would be wrong - especially in his current state, and he'd make sure no one tried to coup de grace him (even if it meant fighting his own teammates or another Hero).

Shifter - Teleport his armor off his body, and teleport him to a hospita ASAP. If he tried something funny, he'd say "sit still or I might accidently teleport your head off" (though he wouldn't really, code vs killing is a real female dog sometimes).

Syberdwarf2
May 17th, '03, 08:02 PM
I'd hang a sign sround his neck that reads; "Robots are(expletive deleted)".

Then I'd call Mechanon and run like all bloody hell.........

Tamashii2000
May 18th, '03, 03:21 AM
Patriot: Destroyers down? ohh Look I just found a fine armored club to hit people with!

Panthro: Check to make sure he isn't faking, Glue him several times to the ground to make sure he can't go anywhere, then help my teammates clean up the rest.

Agent Escafarc
May 18th, '03, 05:33 AM
Most of the heroes I've played would in some way save him and keep him subdued with the exception of:

Cat (I): has a real hate on for DD and would go for the coup de grace and behead him and since DD is the reason for Cat's cybernetics she has the muscle to do it.

Nucleon
May 18th, '03, 05:59 AM
Originally posted by Mayday
Lose a phase from sheer surprise?
I think that will be in order indeed;

Priorities are:

1) Protect the innocents. If you're heroes, that is

2) Stop the agents. Goes well with 1)

3) Get Dr. D, alive. Maybe is is detaining secrets about his master plan, a bomb or something (real reason is that way he can come back again :p ).

So the best thing to do seems a Presence attack on the troops at a key moment. You've got to get their attention. If you got something as a Red White and Blue hero or an Immortal, you should get them to disapear through the cracks with the presence modifiers. Make them beleive he is dead, so the second-in command would take control, while Destroyer allies with the group to bring down his own organisation.

Blue
May 18th, '03, 06:16 AM
Six other whole teams are helping? Okay...

Wary that this is not the real Dr. Destroyer, I'd shout for a team to subdue and check on him while four other teams continue crowd control on the villain's minions. Meanwhile my team would at least for the next couple phases commit themselves to scanning the area for any sign of the "real" Doc or for sensors that may be monitoring us, because the obvious reasons for using a decoy would be to either catch us by surprise in mid-fight, or so that he can evaluate how the teams work together so he can use it against us later.

Of course if it turns out to be the real doc, my team would attempt to bring him back, since I have no means to do so.

SKJAM!
May 18th, '03, 06:53 AM
Talion, not being gifted at peeling off armor, leans over Destoryer and asks, "where's the deadman switch?"


SKJAM!

Catacomb
May 18th, '03, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by SuperBlue
You are in the middle of a battle (along side 6 other super-Hero teams) with Dr. Destroyer when he clutches his chest and falls over (Heart Attack). His armies are still attacking people, and overall just reaking havoc.

What do you do?

Leave him to die and defend the innocents still in danger.

JmOz
May 18th, '03, 08:02 AM
The Bowman would keep fighting the agents, he leaves badguys like Dr D to the ones who can fight it

Bastion: Force dome around the good doctor and start performing surgery, he is a living being and deserves a right to redeam himself (Bastion would think Hitler could be redeamed)

Star Knight: would most likely try to stabalise him and take him to the intergalactic tribunal, but if he died he would not care that much

Shaun Hendricks
May 18th, '03, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by Mayday
Salvo: Dr who? Snip...

No, Dr. Destroyer. Dr. Who was not involved in this hypothetical situation. He's probably watching from some nearby red phone booth though... :D

Mayday
May 18th, '03, 11:39 AM
Nah, the good Doctor avoids wars usually. Or tries to, although several Companions are probably in the middle of the mess.

Salvo is not from this dimension and doesnt know who Dr D is, yet.

Tamashii2000
May 18th, '03, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Mayday
Nah, the good Doctor avoids wars usually. Or tries to, although several Companions are probably in the middle of the mess

Yeah I could see Lela in the thick of it, and having the time of her life. :D

Alex Raven
May 18th, '03, 05:39 PM
What would I do?? Simple. He's down and his DCV is minimal. I'd keep hitting him in the head until I see gray matter. Additionally, when I'm out of rounds, I'd push on every hit until I was burning STUN. He may have started the war but I'll be darned sure I'm going to finish it for him.

KawangaKid
May 18th, '03, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by Alex Raven
What would I do?? Simple. He's down and his DCV is minimal. I'd keep hitting him in the head until I see gray matter. Additionally, when I'm out of rounds, I'd push on every hit until I was burning STUN. He may have started the war but I'll be darned sure I'm going to finish it for him.

I'd Martial Grab the sucker to ensure that Alex Raven gets a nice DCV 0 so he can target the head more easily.

"Nice try, Dr. Destroyer... but you didn't really expect to fool us with as shoddy a trick as that, did you?"

*whisper* "Go for the Vitals, we gotta make sure he can't reproduce."

Alex Raven
May 18th, '03, 07:15 PM
Hey Kawanga Kid! Since when would we fall for the old "clutch my chest and fake a heart attack" trick anyway?!

Got to remember to target the chest, vitals and stomach to ensure that he is crippled before death.

Haerandir
May 18th, '03, 10:09 PM
Most of my characters would drop everything in an attempt to save Dr. Destroyer... Why?

Because Dr. Destroyer is Earth's Mightiest Champion! He's the last line of defense (and in some cases only realistic defense) against:

Istvatha V'Han
Mechanon
Tyrannon
The Warlord
Takofanes
Eurostar
Menton
Gravitar
Any and all alien invasion fleets
Everyone else

Sure, Dr. D. is bad news in and of himself. But he's fairly predictable, and there's only the one of him. He won't allow anyone else to conquer Earth, and he's not been especially successful at taking it over himself. He can usually be contained. I mean, honestly, he's been at it since the '50's, and the worst he's done is blow up one lousy Midwestern city. Heck, large portions of it survived relatively unscathed! That's a small price to pay for alien invasion insurance, if you ask me. Gotta keep the old geezer propped up, or Earth will be overrun within the week.

However, you must never let on to Dr. Destroyer that you WANT him alive and well. He might become petulant and refuse to save the Earth out of spite.

TheTemplar
May 19th, '03, 07:39 AM
The Tornado (Speedster): The agents are definitely the biggest threat now..and speedsters LOVE agents! ;-) So, I'd start plotting multiple Move-Bys like crazy..maybe some Grab-Bys targetted at their weaponry, too...just to mix it up a bit. Not too worried about the Doc...couldn't stop him from escaping if I wanted to! Well, alone anyway. With the rest of the team, I'd still probably leave that to those who could manage to keep a crippled DD under wraps, while I started whitling down the agent count.

Of course, as we discovered in our first playtest this weekend, all Fantastic Man (another pc in the group) has to do is appear before the agents and shout his catchphrase (which gives him +40 PRE vs. normals for PRE attacking purposes) and they'll scatter immediately..well..those who aren't too busy wetting themselves to scatter, that is.

-T

Wormhole
May 19th, '03, 08:31 AM
Hardware: Hardware would just let his teammates worry about Destroyer because 1) he doesn't have the medical training to do anything about the heart attack anyway and 2) at that moment he most likely already has his hands full trying disable the doomsday device de jour before it kills millions of inocent people.

MilkmanDan
May 19th, '03, 01:14 PM
He'd remember that Dr. Destroyer has used impostors and stand-ins before and it's unlikely in the world of Champions that the world's greatest mega-villain is going to die of a frickin' heart attack.

He'd then take the almost undoubtedly innocent individual to the nearest hospital ASAP.

Alex Raven
May 20th, '03, 10:20 AM
Imposter or not...someone is going to the morgue. If it is an imposter, that's the price you pay for playing with the bad guys.

Acroyear
May 20th, '03, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by Alex Raven
Imposter or not...someone is going to the morgue. If it is an imposter, that's the price you pay for playing with the bad guys.

You left out "and getting sawed in half, vertically, with a butter knife and tossed behind a kindergarten."

fauxgemini
May 20th, '03, 11:14 AM
Aegis: Stands around laughing for like a half an hour or so until on of the Doc's minions hits him over the head with a telephone pole or something, pissing him off.

Killer Shrike
May 20th, '03, 01:51 PM
Isnt Dr. Destroyer the man responsible for cleaning up the worst city in America like 10 years ago? The fella who caused 10 Billion dollars of civic improvements and indirectly created thousands of high paying technical jobs?

Why, Id rush that man to the taxidermist ASAP so that they could get him stuffed while still fresh, preserved for posterity! Or posterior, however you spell it. :cool:

Mayday
May 20th, '03, 02:06 PM
I wonder if Dr D is an organ donor.

Alex Raven
May 21st, '03, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Acroyear
You left out "and getting sawed in half, vertically, with a butter knife and tossed behind a kindergarten."

Hey! I don't recall anything about dumping the body behind a Kindergarten. I thought I left it under the stage for the school kids to find.

You forgot about the time the Kawanga Kid's girlfriend came up "missing" and was found stuffed with newspapers. It was one of my early attempts at taxidermy.

Acroyear
May 21st, '03, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Alex Raven
You forgot about the time the Kawanga Kid's girlfriend came up "missing" and was found stuffed with newspapers. It was one of my early attempts at taxidermy.

On purpose. And then you go and remind me.

Piker.

TheEmerged
May 21st, '03, 02:40 PM
Check to see if he's dead. If not, find some way to correct that problem quickly.

Then, search him for loose change :D

EvilLuke
May 22nd, '03, 02:22 PM
LifeSigns(alien bio-tech using blaster): Check vitals and lay down that healing aid on him. LS is an alien who with CvK who thinks that superheroes and villains are an elaborate cultural entertainment. Make sure the guy in armor lives, but disable all his robotic and electrical systems. LS dislikes machines.

Xu Liko(old martial artist): Arch an eyebrow at the fallen would-be dictator. Then slam a double knockback MA attack into his solarplexus, should leave a nice dent in the ground.

The Talon of the Yoma(Chinese King of a Hell, super-villain, but honorable): Grab the world threatening villain and take him to hell. Personally.

Chainsling(golem made of chains): Keep laying on those entangles, baby!

Troll(genetically engineered brick): Pick up the tin can and throw it as hard as possible into any enemy units.

Supreme
May 22nd, '03, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by SuperBlue
You are in the middle of a battle (along side 6 other super-Hero teams) with Dr. Destroyer when he clutches his chest and falls over (Heart Attack). His armies are still attacking people, and overall just reaking havoc.

What do you do?
I'd stop his armies first, and see to the Dr.'s medical attention second. This is assuming that medical attention cannot be given to the doctor while the armies are being dealt with at the same time. My reasons are thus:

It may seem callous, but many cases of cardiac arrest, people can survive for at least a minute or two. That's a minimum of 5 turns.
I'm not risking lives on what might be a "clever ruse."
Super-heroes usually have access to extraordinary medical resources. The Doc will just have to hope that he won't go too far before I can apply them.

KawangaKid
Jun 1st, '03, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by Acroyear
On purpose. And then you go and remind me.

Piker.

Damn, you Raven! How could you do that to my girlfriend? The one who I poured my heart and soul out to, who betrayed me and almost got me killed...

Hm.... Hey, want a beer?

AnotherSkip
Jun 2nd, '03, 07:06 AM
The Rook: Switch over my VPP to an AP Mental transform and save his mind(removing all those nasty Psy lims and replacing them with socially beneficial Psy lims) then switch it over to cure Spiritual disads, then switch it over to Phisical transform to make him a good guy once and for all.

If he doesnt die by then. If he does, then resurrect him.

Most of the others persoanlly dont give a flying flip and wouldn't know him as anything other than a knockoff Dr Doom. :)

McCoy
Jun 2nd, '03, 07:14 PM
Cheeta (speedster): Continue multiple move-bys on the minions.

Dolphin (semi-pacifist brick): Continue protecting civilians, Presence Attack the minions. "You're Boss is down. Lay down weapons so the paramedics can treat him, or your paychecks will bounce like superballs!"

Millennium (ultra boy scout, embodies Campbell's "Hero With a Thousand Faces"): Fly over, apply Lancelot-like healing touch, fully expecting that when Dr. D is better he can call upon a debt of honor to get him to call a cease fire.

Iron Will (quadroplegic telekinetic gadgeteer): Use TK to remove his armor, rig defibulator from gadget pool.

Snow Leopard (daughter of Storm by Wolverine): Superleap over, pull off his helmet, pop claws and Presence Attack the minions. "Drop guns NOW or your boss gets carved like a brisket!"

zakueins
Jun 2nd, '03, 08:08 PM
Fire Knight (manga-inspired swordsman)-Check to make sure this is The Real Dr. Destroyer In All Respects. Then cut off his head and mount it on a pike.

The Hammer (brick/martial artist)-Peel the armor off, revive him, use every entangle known to man to ensure he doesn't escape, drop him in Stronghold personally. If he so much as whispers a word of disagreement, pound him into pulp.


Originally posted by SuperBlue
You are in the middle of a battle (along side 6 other super-Hero teams) with Dr. Destroyer when he clutches his chest and falls over (Heart Attack). His armies are still attacking people, and overall just reaking havoc.

What do you do?

dbsousa
Jun 2nd, '03, 08:47 PM
Golden Eagle would use his Gauss Reflection Electro-Magnetic Linear INverter (GREMLIN) Ray on Destroyer's armor to deactivate it, then use his Diamagnetic Tractor Arrays to airlift him to medical help.
Revenant would reach a ghostly hand into Destroyer's chest and remove his soul. Once he had done this, he would let the souls own weight drag it to hell...

kirakane
Jun 2nd, '03, 09:35 PM
Shadow Dragon - Waits for Destroyer's Orbital Death Ray to turn the whole city, heroes, and army into ash, so Millenium City 2 can be build upon our graves. Who says history doesn't repeat itself.

Agent X
Jun 2nd, '03, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by SuperBlue
You are in the middle of a battle (along side 6 other super-Hero teams) with Dr. Destroyer when he clutches his chest and falls over (Heart Attack). His armies are still attacking people, and overall just reaking havoc.

What do you do? I would protect innocents first. Once his armies were subdued I would attempt to save Dr. Destroyer. If he died, I would solemnly, though not regretfully, acknowledge his passing. Now, that's in character.

If a guy that murdered that many people was having a heart attack near me, for real, and I could legally get away with it I would help his heart fail.

BenKimball
Jun 4th, '03, 06:33 AM
Koan: Start searching the world for Doc's reincarnation, then put that infant into the Dalai Lama's care for training in a remote monastery.

Side note: trying to portray a cinematic enlightened Zen Buddhist superhero is HARD. But fun.

Cyberknight
Jun 4th, '03, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by SuperBlue
You are in the middle of a battle (along side 6 other super-Hero teams) with Dr. Destroyer when he clutches his chest and falls over (Heart Attack). His armies are still attacking people, and overall just reaking havoc.

What do you do?

Cyberknight: Move to Doctor D, activate the remote interface system built into my armor to access Destroyers life-support systems and initiate triage care until he can be moved to a safer location for removal from his armor and incarceration. Direct Anvil (Battlesuit brick), Long Tom (Battlesuit with a real penchant for long-range fire support), and Nighthawk (General-purpose battlesuit) to press the engagement with the agents...

Anvil: Glare at the boyscout-in-a-can (agian), and (very calmly) inform said BSIAC that the agents are already being well and truly taken care of.

Long Tom: Lay a smoke screen between DD and his agents per request, and work up a firing solution for the anti-armor round that has Destroyer's name on it.

Nighthawk: Are you CRAZY, old man? That (unflattering description of DD removed by the Comics Code Authority!) finally goes to the Hell he deserves, and you want to save his life? SOMEBODY GET A STRAIGHT JACKET! SUPER SIZED!

Vondy
Jun 4th, '03, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by SuperBlue
You are in the middle of a battle (along side 6 other super-Hero teams) with Dr. Destroyer when he clutches his chest and falls over (Heart Attack). His armies are still attacking people, and overall just reaking havoc.

What do you do?

Anthem: being the head of Americas paramilitary superhero task force and a veteran of both world wars would very much consider this a military operation and would make sure destroyer was down for the count - spandex losers in colorful costumes may have impractical codes they live by, but Anthem's team fights in accordance with the rules of land warfare, which is pretty expansive once the bullets start flying. Fighting fair means you lose 50% of the time, and when you have 300 million American's safety and liberty on your shoulders you aren't being paid to fight fair - your being paid to win. Destroyer would still - even with a heart attack - pose a significant threat to operational integrity, personnel, and any civillians in the area. I'd finish him.

If however he really was down for the count (obviously so) he'd order him secured and have him treated by Mind's Eye (a trained psychiatrist, and therefore MD) while the teams cybernetic expert - white panther - disbled his weapons systems.

farik
Jan 1st, '04, 11:09 AM
Husky would assume he's faking it and continue to brawl with the other bricks.

The Watcher
Sep 16th, '04, 06:35 AM
Warp: Cut his head off. Warp has a very strong personal reason to want Doctor Destroyer dead, due to his mother being killed in the Battle of Detroit.

Spectrum: Makes sure it wasn't just a ploy, and if it wasn't, makes sure to disable all the armor and gadgets on him and uses his capture to break the morale of his minions.

He'll worry about having medical aid administered to the doctor only after his minions are defeated. It's a military situation, and defeat of the enemy is the highest priority. If he dies, oh well. If he lives, well then a War Crimes Trial will be in order.

Mystic: Uses soul sight to make sure this is Doctor Destroyer, then animates the Destroyer's body and have it order his minions to surrender.

Chuckg
Sep 16th, '04, 07:27 AM
Starguard -- Heal him, but also keep him unconscious. Then use the Power Cosmic to get him out of the armor. Then hand him over to PRIMUS and get back into the fight.

Dr. Pain -- "... MEDIC! And bring the jaws of life and some handcuffs, too!"

Baron von Darien -- "How ironic, that *I* am the one pounding a stake through *your* heart. Figuratively speaking, of course."

*finishes Destroyer off, with extreme thoroughness*

The Watcher
Sep 16th, '04, 07:35 AM
Starguard -- Heal him, but also keep him unconscious. Then use the Power Cosmic to get him out of the armor. Then hand him over to PRIMUS and get back into the fight.Hmmm, this is going to cause some problems intra-team problems

"I'm sorry, Starguard, but I can't let you."

*T-ports her away from The Destroyer*

I hope she'll understand someday.

OddHat
Sep 16th, '04, 07:48 AM
Style - "Great, now it will be 'Son of Destroyer', or the 'Destroyer Clone Army', or this one was a clone sent out to trick us again, or his death triggers a doomsday device, or..." heals the old bastard while keeping him unconcious and trying to get him out of the armor. Drops a few Spirit Rats into the armor to chew away as much as possible before the armor's own AI takes over and starts trying to rescue its master.

Flesh Gordon - "Uh-oh. You don't look so good. Lucky for you I'm a fully trained medical doctor! What you need is to stand on your head! Or was that your feet? Head? Feat? Head? Feat? Say, this is really cool armor. Hey, look, agents! To battle, and victory!"

Flesh has no medical training except possibly from his Space Adventurer PS.

Chuckg
Sep 16th, '04, 07:53 AM
Watcher -- remember, I go first in the initiative order. :)

ParitySoul
Sep 16th, '04, 08:35 AM
Brand X - Get the hell out of the way because Gigaton is due to show up to save his master in 5, 4, 3, 2...

Metaphysician
Sep 16th, '04, 12:56 PM
Microman. . . would be conflicted. While there are all kinds of moral reasons why killing him now would be wrong, Microman's personality was built off an engram of his father, Dr Collins. . . and Dr Collins lost a *lot* of good friends in the Battle of Detroit.

PoorWandering 1
Sep 16th, '04, 01:09 PM
Rocket man: Open the armor and begin first aid. Reasoning that there is zero chance that this is the real Dr. D. The good Dr. is far too savvy to ignore cardiac issues. This must be a double whose death will buy time for the real Dr. D to escape or activate plan b.