Any interest in V&V converted to Champions?

[proditor]

Yes, I've converted a metric ton of characters, but what I'm really asking is this: I recently got permission to use the V&V timeline, slightly altered, to reflect what the game world was like for all of those characters I converted. I've been idly pondering revamping the webpage to reflect the full V&V world. It would include guidelines for running there as well as the main groups like CHESS and Intercrime. There would be the benchmarks (Like in the CU, "Grond is the strongest there is!" sort of stuff) and as much background material as I can be bothered to type. ;)

So the question is, would anyone even bother to look at it? Heck, I can just convert the last 12 or so module characters I have left and take a hiatus until I decide to plunder the villain books more thoroughly, but this seemed like a nifty idea. Anyway, feedback requested.

[Major Tom]

I'd definitely give it a good look. V&V is the oldest superhero RPG currently in
my posession, and I've recently taken it out to see which characters I'd like
to convert over to FREd format. While I don't have all of the adventure books,
I do have most of the 'Enemies'-type books.


Major Tom :cool:

[aylwin13]

Count me in. I always like checking out new (but old) character ideas.

[Enforcer84]

Yes, I've converted a metric ton of characters, but what I'm really asking is this: I recently got permission to use the V&V timeline, slightly altered, to reflect what the game world was like for all of those characters I converted. I've been idly pondering revamping the webpage to reflect the full V&V world. It would include guidelines for running there as well as the main groups like CHESS and Intercrime. There would be the benchmarks (Like in the CU, "Grond is the strongest there is!" sort of stuff) and as much background material as I can be bothered to type. ;)

So the question is, would anyone even bother to look at it? Heck, I can just convert the last 12 or so module characters I have left and take a hiatus until I decide to plunder the villain books more thoroughly, but this seemed like a nifty idea. Anyway, feedback requested.
I'd be there like a preteen on a boy band.

[Lemurion]

Yes, very interested. Always good to come up with additions to the Rogue's Gallery

[Superskrull]

Add another yes vote from me. I always liked V&V. Seeing a little more of the world hinted at by the books would be quite interesting.

[Supreme Serpent]

Yes please! Go Manta-Man!

[OddHat]

Absolutely! V&V was my first game after AD&D! I'd love to see it.

[Sketchpad]

Yes, I've converted a metric ton of characters, but what I'm really asking is this: I recently got permission to use the V&V timeline, slightly altered, to reflect what the game world was like for all of those characters I converted. I've been idly pondering revamping the webpage to reflect the full V&V world. It would include guidelines for running there as well as the main groups like CHESS and Intercrime. There would be the benchmarks (Like in the CU, "Grond is the strongest there is!" sort of stuff) and as much background material as I can be bothered to type. ;)

So the question is, would anyone even bother to look at it? Heck, I can just convert the last 12 or so module characters I have left and take a hiatus until I decide to plunder the villain books more thoroughly, but this seemed like a nifty idea. Anyway, feedback requested.
Count me in as well ... and if you need help or just someone to bounce off ideas, just gimme a shout :)

[proditor]

Count me in as well ... and if you need help or just someone to bounce off ideas, just gimme a shout :)
Cool, and I may take you up on that. :D

Well, it seems like there is enough interest, so once I finish one more DH article (Ain't it always the way...) I'll start in on the rough draft and start begging for help. ;)

[Mr. R]

Count me in as well. I love seeing change-overs of some villians I remeber fighting. VnV was my first superhero game I played in and the GM had ALL the modules. The Most Wanted books were very cool and I would love to see some of the villians from those books stated out (ex Super Nova, Arachnos and Mountain Man)

Jerome

[MCMaenza]

I'm interested. I always would pick up V&V modules when I found them to see what I might be able to use (characters, plots) in my own Champions games. Plus, one of our college groups even played V&V for a bit. My character - the Flying Fury - was a blonde circus acrobat turned hero (she was fun to play). One of our players was an aspiring artist, so I got a really cool color picture from him of her (still have it somewhere after 23 years - need to get it framed or something).

[Savinien]

I'm in on checking it out. I'd offer to help, but I don't know squat.

Still, I'll check it out and steal parts for my own game (if I ever run a supers setting).

[RPMiller]

Many fond memories of V&V. I would be interested in seeing the conversions.

[proditor]

Well, if anyone hasn't seen this yet, drop by to look at my (roughly) 186 V&V character conversions over at my page: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/proditor/vandv/vandvindex.htm

PS: Mountain Man is indeed there, though you have to look in..well, the goofballs section. ;)

[OddHat]

Well, if anyone hasn't seen this yet, drop by to look at my (roughly) 186 V&V character conversions over at my page: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/proditor/vandv/vandvindex.htm

PS: Mountain Man is indeed there, though you have to look in..well, the goofballs section. ;)

Repped and added to my bookmarks. Really brings back memories. :)

Is Jeff Dee's new game worth picking up?

[Sketchpad]

Since you're able to use some of the timeline, are you also going to be using art for the write-ups?

[proditor]

Since you're able to use some of the timeline, are you also going to be using art for the write-ups?
I haven't broached that subject as yet, and I'm admittedly a little nervous. I think if I confined it to more background montages, I could probably get away with it. Either way, I have a mail to Mister Dee all prepared. ;)

EDIT: Much to my chagrin, I haven't really taken a long look at Living Legends. What I saw looked just fine, but with approaching age, I'm starting to fall into the "No new systems!" curmudgeon mode.

[OddHat]

EDIT: Much to my chagrin, I haven't really taken a long look at Living Legends. What I saw looked just fine, but with approaching age, I'm starting to fall into the "No new systems!" curmudgeon mode.

That's kind of where I am at this point. ;)

[Agent 13]

I haven't broached that subject as yet, and I'm admittedly a little nervous. I think if I confined it to more background montages, I could probably get away with it.

http://tinyurl.com/du5dg

[proditor]

http://tinyurl.com/du5dg
*Nod* And he's been remarkably cool about my using his stuff so far. I just hadn't broached art yet as I hold it semi-sacred. Dee's art got me into Superhero RPGs after all. :D

EDIT: And yeah, I know he says it's cool, but I'd feel better asking. ;)

[Dominique]

IIRC, there are several sites that convert V&V material to Champions. Like this one.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/proditor/vandv/vandvindex.htm

[proditor]

IIRC, there are several sites that convert V&V material to Champions. Like this one.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/proditor/vandv/vandvindex.htm
Yeah, I'm a wee bit familiar with that one. ;)

[OddHat]

IIRC, there are several sites that convert V&V material to Champions. Like this one.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/proditor/vandv/vandvindex.htm

That's a good site. :)

It's also the site of the guy who started the thread. ;)

[Dominique]

That's a good site. :)

It's also the site of the guy who started the thread. ;)

Dooh..., sorry about that? ::doi:, I think I'll quitely crwl back to my lurker status on this thread and just :hush:

[OddHat]

Dooh..., sorry about that? ::doi:, I think I'll quitely crwl back to my lurker status on this thread and just :hush:

Please, no. :)

I've done the same thing. Besides, the more people that respond and give Proditor positive feedback for his work on this, the better. :)

[Agent 13]

I have it on good authority that the timeline (http://www.geocities.com/agent-13/canontimeline.html) has been updated recently.

[proditor]

Yeah, the guy maintaining it asked me which one I wanted to use when I mailed about it. (Of course, it would be par for the course on this thread that Alwyn is the maintainer...)

And Dominique, no worries, and by all means, don't lurk. I'm absolutely looking for feedback on what to do next since the current site is *at best* a gen one webpage.

[hancock.tom]

I hadn't played V&V, but I checked out your website, clicked on a random character (who happened to be mountain man) and noticed one of his "powers" was a Varmit Gun.

I am so stealing that for the evil redneck supervillain I will throw at my players the next time they show up late....

Anyways, as someone who hasn't seen V&V I think what you are doing is a great way to introduce people like me to the characters. Thanks!!!

[Dominique]

Yeah, the guy maintaining it asked me which one I wanted to use when I mailed about it. (Of course, it would be par for the course on this thread that Alwyn is the maintainer...)

And Dominique, no worries, and by all means, don't lurk. I'm absolutely looking for feedback on what to do next since the current site is *at best* a gen one webpage.

I'll jump in when the mood hits, or a comment catches my eye.

[proditor]

So here's my idea for a new splash page. Thoughts?

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/proditor/splash.gif

[OddHat]

Groovy!

Say, that flying guy looks familiar...

[proditor]

Heh...yeah, I thought someone might notice that. ;)

EDIT: And I'm testing the new V&V Index. Now up, seems to be working. It might be funky at less than 1280x1024.

[Sketchpad]

Proditor ... have you thought about going PDF with the info?

[proditor]

Proditor ... have you thought about going PDF with the info?
Not really. I had an idle thought about it, but the harsh reality is that it would probably mean tracking down a lot of people to get their permission. Jeff Dee gave me a handwave on anyone he made, and said there shouldn't be any problems about converting other characters. But I'm not sure how sticky things get if I "publish" even if it is without the intent to get a dime for it. Much like the issues with Hero characters pre 4th/5th, the V&V characters are all owned by their respective creators.

EDIT: And in all honesty, this is my "Darn I'm bored. Hey! I'll convert another 10 V&V guys!" sort of thing. Granted, in another 6 months or so I should have converted every published character, but I'd feel kinda weird actually trying to make it into something. Just ask Dave Mattingly what a nudge I am about my DH articles. ;) Darn he's a good sport.

[TheQuestionMan]

I regret that I do not have more REP to give!

Awesome stuff and they are right that guy on the front cover page does look vaguely like Proditor's Avatar.

Vaguely

QM

[Enforcer84]

So here's my idea for a new splash page. Thoughts?

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/proditor/splash.gif
I love the pic man. BUt you're blocking my view of the Wimmin. :(
:D

[MCMaenza]

Nice cover and sight! I've bookmarked it. Oh and I didn't know that Jeff Dee had a new RPG out. Learned that via links on your site. Good to know. I always liked his character art.

[Agent 13]

Yeah, the guy maintaining it asked me which one I wanted to use when I mailed about it. (Of course, it would be par for the course on this thread that Alwyn is the maintainer...)

Yeah, it would be funny if it turned out he was involved in this thread.

[Supreme Serpent]

EDIT: And in all honesty, this is my "Darn I'm bored. Hey! I'll convert another 10 V&V guys!" sort of thing. Granted, in another 6 months or so I should have converted every published character

And then your next project could be to convert every published Champions character into V&V!








Uh...proditor? You okay? Give him some room fellas; he needs some air...:fear:

[proditor]

Yeah, it would be funny if it turned out he was involved in this thread.
I can up the funny though...

Let's suppose I occasionally transpose names (Which I do)
Let's suppose again that I even clicked on the link and read that it was not, in fact "alwyn" who maintained the V&V timeline, but Agent 13.
Let's take our last suppose as I even read it in my e-mail....

Now with all of that, attributing the page to the wrong person entirely is even funnier. ;)

Heya Agent, I'm still using the old file so I'll probably be doing a little copy/paste action from your site. Would you mind taking a look at the first draft of the conversion doc when I get it finished?

[aylwin13]

And then your next project could be to convert every published Champions character into V&V!




Uh...proditor? You okay? Give him some room fellas; he needs some air...:fear:
Bad Serpent, no biscuit.

How can we expect Proditor to do all of this work, if he's passed out on the floor? :D

[starblaze]

Well, if anyone hasn't seen this yet, drop by to look at my (roughly) 186 V&V character conversions over at my page: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/proditor/vandv/vandvindex.htm

PS: Mountain Man is indeed there, though you have to look in..well, the goofballs section. ;)

You forgot about the grizzly bear follower.

[Enforcer84]

And then your next project could be to convert every published Champions character into V&V!








Uh...proditor? You okay? Give him some room fellas; he needs some air...:fear:
And then convert all the V&V and HERO characters to Superworld!

[proditor]

You forgot about the grizzly bear follower.
Must have missed it in the flavor text. Well, should only take about 10 seconds to add once I get home.

[Jeff T.]

Is it just me or has Jeff Dee's artwork gotten worse over the years? His old stuff is awesome, but the stuff from the last 10-15 years seems goofy, blocky, and unfinished.

[Supreme Serpent]

I think alot of his recent stuff is great, like the pics they based the Living Legends figure line on - Shutterbug, Condor, NightOwl - great stuff.

But some artists definitely do stagnate as they go on. John Byrne for example - whatever you may think of him as a writer, he's a great comic artist - but has definitely narrowed down over the years - using the same dozen or so faces for everyone, completely ignoring backgrounds in many cases, etc.

[proditor]

Okay, keep your fingers crossed. I just submitted two DH articles that had been doing a reasonable impression of the Sword of Damocles on me, so I have some free time again. Obviously the holidays are going to take a chunk out, but hopefully I can move this to at least middle burner now, not just back. ;)

[Agent 13]

Heya Agent, I'm still using the old file so I'll probably be doing a little copy/paste action from your site. Would you mind taking a look at the first draft of the conversion doc when I get it finished?

I'll be glad to. I'm not the best person to ask when it comes to game mechanics and such, but I'm always happy to look at the other bits.

While we're on the subject, I may be firing up a PBeM (http://herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?p=558630) set in Center City (http://www.geocities.com/agent-13/centercity.pdf), with the PCs being legacy heroes from the team who took part in the original Crisis At Crusader's Citadel. I'm busting out the V&V rules for old time sake, but if you want me to let you know when things start, give me the word.

[Agent 13]

Legacy: Return to Center City (http://forums.rpghost.com/showthread.php?t=39196)