Worst Comic Book Superfight Ever - THE POLL!

[zornwil]

This will decide it! We all know polls decide everything!

:D

But hey I am curious...

Anyone responding may want to go through the 100+ pages regarding this in the "worst comic book superfight ever" original thread...um, or not...

[Blue]

I'm surprised this poll is so close.





Pie should be running away with it.

[Trained Chicken]

Seconded.

[Marketeer]

This will decide it! We all know polls decide everything!

:D

But hey I am curious...

Anyone responding may want to go through the 100+ pages regarding this in the "worst comic book superfight ever" original thread...um, or not...

Are you referring to the thread, or the comic?

I think the thread itself constitutes a super fight...


:D

[Blue]

Good point. That thread, if someone took the time to draw it out, would qualify as the worst comic book fight ever.

[zornwil]

Good point. That thread, if someone took the time to draw it out, would qualify as the worst comic book fight ever.
I think it'd be like one of those super team-ups which piles on more and more supers and more and more visuals but litle content, then turns out to be a bad dream at the end.

[Enforcer84]

I think it'd be like one of those super team-ups which piles on more and more supers and more and more visuals but litle content, then turns out to be a bad dream at the end.
I wish.

[Jeff T.]

The reality of a poll doesn't really favor the "Yes, it was one of the worst crowd" IMO. I think that for it to be truly recognized as an awful fight that side would need an overwhelming victory. As of now, it is obvious that a near-equal percentage of people believe that is possible for Spider-Man to defeat Firelord in the way it was shown.

Of course, many people believe in UFOs as well. :D

[death tribble]

The other side of the coin is that people are not convinced by the arguments they have seen by either side.
Certainly I believe that there are people on that thread making a mountain out of a molehill.

[Hugh Neilson]

I think Jeff T hits the nail on the head above - 50% +1 is a very slim margin to declare a given superfight "among the very worst".

As a point of order, thjose voting for pie (and I almost did myself) clearly don't feel strongly that this was one of the worst comic book superfights ever. If you do feel it's one of the worst ever, you wouldn't be ambivalent.

I'd start a poll on whether "undecideds" should be deemed "not one of the worst", but saying this has gone on long enough is extremely charitable (and I'm one of the posters on the other thread to begin with).

[zornwil]

I was just curious what numbers would look like. Whether it is or isn't is really not related to what a plurality or majority or such of posters in a newsgroup think. It's just interesting to see how many people feel one way or the other, and means nothing more than that.

[Blue]

And Pie moves into second place!

[Korvar]

With some trepidation, I proffer my opinion:

The Spiderman/Firelord fight isn't amongst the worst comic book fights ever - there are many many worse. I don't think that Spiderman really could have beated Firelord, but it's close - not nearly as ridiculous as many in The Other Thread have made out. So while it's not terribly good, it's not the Worst Fight Ever, or even in that league.

But next time, I'm voting for pie.

[Chimpira]

I voted for pie because I think that the Spider-man vs. Firelord fight is just a damn silly thing to fight over. The original thread promised to be a bit of fun but that quickly devolved into something no way related to fun.

Opinion is a great thing. The ability to express your opinion is even better. But you have to start to wonder about the fact that when you are not really trying to bring someone to your way of thinking and you are just arguing for arguements sake what exactly is getting accomplished? Is it the fact that you get the last word in? Do you feel that someone is just so fundamentally wrong about a fight that took place in a comic book over twenty years ago that it is your duty to speak up?

Personally I do not know.

What I do know is that I have read quite a few non Spider-man vs. Firelord posts from the people that kept going back and forth about that thing. I find them, for the most part, to be funny, insightful and at times rather brilliant.

My hope is this just gets put into the past.

[Blue]

'Sides... Pie can kick both their asses. Especially Rhubarb (sp?) That's some nasty pie.

[Korvar]

Look, it's been conclusively established, in Pie Tales #37, that even Rhubarb just isn't in the same league as Firelord or Spiderman...

[Chimpira]

'Sides... Pie can kick both their asses. Especially Rhubarb (sp?) That's some nasty pie.

Rhubarb???!!! Please, you have no concept of pie. IMHO Mincemeat pie is the only true kick butt pie.

And so the cycle begins anew.;)

[Log-Man]

Proof of the superiority of pie: Here we see Thor getting his *** kicked by a some monster, but pie comes in and is victorius! :rockon:

[Gary]

Proof of the superiority of pie: Here we see Thor getting his *** kicked by a some monster, but pie comes in and is victorius! :rockon:


Damn, that is pretty convincing. :( ;)

[Snake Gandhi]

This poll isn't to helpful, as one can think SvFL is dumb without thinking it's one of the worst ever.

And screw pie, where's the cake? I'm tired of this blatant desertism that sees cake left out of everything.

[KA.]

This poll isn't to helpful, as one can think SvFL is dumb without thinking it's one of the worst ever.

And screw pie, where's the cake? I'm tired of this blatant desertism that sees cake left out of everything.

Well, now that you have come out publicly against pie, it is pretty obvious that you are just here to troll.

:D

KA.

[pinecone]

This will decide it! We all know polls decide everything!

:D

But hey I am curious...

Anyone responding may want to go through the 100+ pages regarding this in the "worst comic book superfight ever" original thread...um, or not...
Hmm I thought that title was "Yellow, I am curious"....yes I guess it was the worst comic book fight ever....Hmmm...hmmm...hmmm

[zornwil]

This poll isn't to helpful, as one can think SvFL is dumb without thinking it's one of the worst ever.

And screw pie, where's the cake? I'm tired of this blatant desertism that sees cake left out of everything.
Well, hang on a minute though. The specific question in the other thread was "WORST COMIC BOOK SUPERFIGHT EVER". Very specific. If one's contention is NOT this, then they have no reason to attack the battle on that level.

And I was SPECIFICALLY interested to know in general how many people feel one way or another as to this being one of the worst, though I want to stress I don't say that this group of people's opinions equate to valid literary criticism.

[Snake Gandhi]

Well, hang on a minute though. The specific question in the other thread was "WORST COMIC BOOK SUPERFIGHT EVER". Very specific. If one's contention is NOT this, then they have no reason to attack the battle on that level.
Actually, the argument in the other thread was people saying SvFL is really bad, and other people saying it's not, its perfecetly acceptable.

i think it sucks myself, but i don't know if its the worst. there have been a lot of bad fights after all.

[zornwil]

Actually, the argument in the other thread was people saying SvFL is really bad, and other people saying it's not, its perfecetly acceptable.

i think it sucks myself, but i don't know if its the worst. there have been a lot of bad fights after all.
ChuckG brought it up as meriting "one of the worst" and the arguments ensued. On a personal note, if you or others arguing "with" him don't think it's one of the worst, I think it's worth pointing that out. It certainly is the default assumption in that thread for those arguing on the anti-that-battle side.

[Snake Gandhi]

ChuckG brought it up as meriting "one of the worst" and the arguments ensued. On a personal note, if you or others arguing "with" him don't think it's one of the worst, I think it's worth pointing that out. It certainly is the default assumption in that thread for those arguing on the anti-that-battle side.Oh, its definitely on the list of Top 5 bad fights, but there could be worse ones.

[McCoy]

ChuckG brought it up as meriting "one of the worst" and the arguments ensued. On a personal note, if you or others arguing "with" him don't think it's one of the worst, I think it's worth pointing that out. It certainly is the default assumption in that thread for those arguing on the anti-that-battle side.
Actually I think I'm the one who brought it up. *Checks* Yep, Post #15.

And I still stand by my assessment, it was a steaming pile of elephant dung.

[Enforcer84]

Chuckg agrees :D

[zornwil]

Oh, its definitely on the list of Top 5 bad fights, but there could be worse ones.
Well, if that, then it certainly fits for all practical purposes in a "worst" list.

[zornwil]

Actually I think I'm the one who brought it up. *Checks* Yep, Post #15.

And I still stand by my assessment, it was a steaming pile of elephant dung.
Whoops, sorry, didn't mean to mis-accredit.

[Jeff T.]

Hmmm. In order to be fair and accurate, you'd have to determine some criteria to judge the absolute 'worst', right? I can understand the argument that says, "No way possible does Spidey beat Firelord as it was written" and that it could be used in the criteria. But what about other factors? Was it a well-pencilled fight? Did it have some clever or cool moves and such? Forgetting the believability factor, was it a 'fun' fight, etc? I think there are a lot of other factors to throw in there and the only thing that seems possible to use in this fight was the 'believability' factor...which is disputed by a large percentage of people. Thus, I don't understand how it goes in anyone's bottom five or ten fights ever. Surely, there's been some crappily drawn fights that show little to no dynamic motion and/or no believable 'impact' from punches or blows and such that also involved clearly the wrong person or team winning.

[Hugh Neilson]

Hmmm. In order to be fair and accurate, you'd have to determine some criteria to judge the absolute 'worst', right? I can understand the argument that says, "No way possible does Spidey beat Firelord as it was written" and that it could be used in the criteria. But what about other factors? Was it a well-pencilled fight? Did it have some clever or cool moves and such? Forgetting the believability factor, was it a 'fun' fight, etc? I think there are a lot of other factors to throw in there and the only thing that seems possible to use in this fight was the 'believability' factor...which is disputed by a large percentage of people. Thus, I don't understand how it goes in anyone's bottom five or ten fights ever. Surely, there's been some crappily drawn fights that show little to no dynamic motion and/or no believable 'impact' from punches or blows and such that also involved clearly the wrong person or team winning.

I take it, then, that you'll vote in favour of Snowbird vs Great Beast (nominated in the other thread), which took place in a blizzard caused by the Beast, so the panels were all stark white with nothing visible.

[McCoy]

Whoops, sorry, didn't mean to mis-accredit.
Not a problem, just wanted to set the record straight.

[zornwil]

Hmmm. In order to be fair and accurate, you'd have to determine some criteria to judge the absolute 'worst', right? I can understand the argument that says, "No way possible does Spidey beat Firelord as it was written" and that it could be used in the criteria. But what about other factors? Was it a well-pencilled fight? Did it have some clever or cool moves and such? Forgetting the believability factor, was it a 'fun' fight, etc? I think there are a lot of other factors to throw in there and the only thing that seems possible to use in this fight was the 'believability' factor...which is disputed by a large percentage of people. Thus, I don't understand how it goes in anyone's bottom five or ten fights ever. Surely, there's been some crappily drawn fights that show little to no dynamic motion and/or no believable 'impact' from punches or blows and such that also involved clearly the wrong person or team winning.
Yeah, that's another reason I wouldn't call it "worst" even if it were conceptually poor. For example, I think the Matrix movie (the first) is a rather lousy story, but the battles are wonderful and rank among the best fight scenes in movies.