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keithcurtis
Jan 19th, '06, 10:28 PM
Let us ask you who your choice of top ten Bricks (as Champions players use the term) in the Marvel Universe would be. While Strength is a big factor (If not THE biggest), also take into account others such as invulnerablity, durability, tenacity, good background, and purity (That is, they should be predominantly a brick type).
Using these criteria, what would your list for DC be?
I find it hard to include people like Superman and Martian Manhunter, since they are even more "impure" than Thor from the Marvel side. Captain Marvel is probably as impure as I'd like to go. (Alas, since I personally identify Superman as personifying Strength)
In no particular order:
Captain Marvel (and by extension, the Marvel Family)
Big Barda (or Knockout)
Wonder Woman
Mongul
Power Girl (non-Kryptonian version)
Solomon Grundy
Atom Smasher
Orion
Keith "Equal Opportunist" Curtis
SuperPheemy
Jan 19th, '06, 10:45 PM
Can't help myself...
1. Superman. He's the original DC Brick. I remember a rationalization of all his secondary powers being based on strength. His sight is so strong that it can see through walls, his skin is so strong bullets bounce off, etc...
2. Captain Marvel. At times in his history, Cap was arguably stronger than Superman. As has been pointed out on these boards dozens of times.
3. Wonder Woman. I just wish they'd stop referring to her costume as "armor".
4. Supergirl Kara Zor-El. Not a hot lesbian.... err. I mean Superman's Cousin and in many cases, his literary Anima.
5. Bizzaro. Maybe it's just fallout from Derek Heimforth's Challenge of the Super Friends games, but somehow the imperfect, perfect clone of Superman holds a soft spot in my heart.
assault
Jan 19th, '06, 11:05 PM
1. Superman.
2. Captain Marvel.
3. Big Barda.
4. Orion.
5. Power Girl.
Marketeer
Jan 19th, '06, 11:27 PM
In terms of being "Brick-y", I like Power Girl--for most of her convoluted history, she's been a flying brick. The rest of her comrades in DCs "high power" area are for the most part Brick/Blasters or Brick/Speedsters.
Bloodstone
Jan 20th, '06, 12:05 AM
There is not a single DC Hero that I actully like that makes me think "Brick" these days. Not the way Marvel Heroes like the Hulk or Thing do atleast. They are all Hybrids with major Speedster, Energy Projector and/or Martial Artist overtones. Nothing inherently wrong with that, but it's just not what I think of when I think "brick". Kinda funny too, considering Clark and Billy were basically the models for the archtype...
I'd probably have to go with Wonder Woman, Power Girl, the former Captain Marvel and Superman as my top picks, in that order.
If we were to include the Wildstorm universe, Mr Majestic would rank right under Wonder Woman.
Phil
Jan 20th, '06, 04:32 AM
What no villains? The General/ Shaggy man? Doomsday? Surely they're full on Bricks, and they'd have a lovely fight for the number 1 spot!
Phil
Jan 20th, '06, 04:38 AM
If we were to include the Wildstorm universe, Mr Majestic would rank right under Wonder Woman.
I'd've thought Majestic would be of Superman level, given that he's pretty much intended to be the Wildstorm equivalent?
Chuckg
Jan 20th, '06, 04:47 AM
Given that Majestic has moved planets(1), he's *above* Post-Crisis Superman level, approaching the Silver Age version in some respects.
(1) The gauntlets and stuff were to keep the planet from falling apart under the force, not to amplify motive power. (MR. MAJESTIC #1, first series)
OddHat
Jan 20th, '06, 04:49 AM
1) Superman. Pure or not, he started out as a brick, and that's still his primary schtick.
2) Captain Marvel. Say a magic word and become the Earth's Mightiest Mortal. Still a classic.
3) Solomon Grundy. Don't know if he's even still in continuity, and his power levels have been all over the place, but he's been bricking it since the 40s.
4) Powergirl. The break with Superman allowed her in some ways to develop as her own character more than the Earth 1 Supergirl.
5) Wonder Woman. I'm always torn when it comes to this character. She has tons of potential, and it's almost never realized.
Bloodstone
Jan 20th, '06, 04:51 AM
I was strictly ranking them by preference, not by power or anything.
Personally, I like Majestic's attitude, bearing and sense of humor a lot more then Supermans.
Hawksmoor
Jan 20th, '06, 05:16 AM
My list of "Bricks":
1. Superman (Duh!)
2. Captain Marvel
3. Amazo
3a. Orion
3b. Kalibak
4a. The General/Shaggy Man
4b. Darkseid
5. Validus
6. Solomon Grundy
7. Wonder Woman
7a. Martian Manhunter
7b. Supergirl/Kara Zor El
8. Power Girl
9. Ultra Boy w/Ultra Strength Engaged
10. Mongul
Hawksmoor
Supreme Serpent
Jan 20th, '06, 05:38 AM
There is not a single DC Hero that I actully like that makes me think "Brick" these days. Not the way Marvel Heroes like the Hulk or Thing do atleast. They are all Hybrids with major Speedster, Energy Projector and/or Martial Artist overtones. Nothing inherently wrong with that, but it's just not what I think of when I think "brick". Kinda funny too, considering Clark and Billy were basically the models for the archtype...
Pretty much my thoughts.
But, let's see:
1. Captain Marvel
2. Superman (esp earlier, pre-million powers versions)
3. Power Girl
4. Wonder Woman
5. errrm....uh....Mammoth?
6. Aquaman
Solomon Grundy's strong, sure, but he never really interested me.
Sure, lots of strong folks in DC, but it's usually treated almost as a side effect in many cases - "gee, he's amazingly powerful....of course he's super strong and tough!" as opposed to being the main part of the schtick like it seems to be with more Marvel characters. Does the more restrictive Marvel way make for better characters? YMMV, but it does make better "bricks".
megaplayboy
Jan 20th, '06, 06:31 AM
Silver/Bronze Age Validus is probably the strongest ever--but even he also has a psychic blast.
Doomsday--although he's perhaps the blandest major new villain ever
Mongul
Aquaman
M. Manhunter
Zod
Hawksmoor
Jan 20th, '06, 06:40 AM
Yeah, probably. But he gets his huge mutated rear handed to him so like Mongul he is 'less' than most heroes despite having that enormous leverage advantage and AE 1HEx Fists.
Hawksmoor
Silverbullet
Jan 20th, '06, 07:11 AM
1. Superman
2. Captain Marvel
3. Wonder Woman
4. Orion
5. Kalibak
6. Solomon Grundy
7. Supergirl/Kara Zor El
8. Amazo
Though I must tentatively include some from the new/old story arch of the infinite Crisis—Superboy-Prime (you know all the powers of the old Superman—moving planets and stuff like that.)
Suleyman Rashid
Jan 20th, '06, 07:31 AM
When thinking about "pure bricks", the only names that come to mind are Mammoth and Solomon Grundy...
Lord Mhoram
Jan 20th, '06, 08:00 AM
Superboy
Mon-el
Superman
Wonder Woman
Captain Marvel
Enforcer84
Jan 20th, '06, 08:29 AM
Let's see...
Captain Marvel
Black Adam
Mary Marvel
Powergirl
Mon El
Superman
Blok
Barda
Orion
Solomon Grundy
Mammoth
The Shaggy Man
Knockout
Aquaman
WonderWoman
Log-Man
Jan 20th, '06, 08:47 AM
Ah, Enforcer beat me. To get your hands on 'pure' bricks in the DCverse, it's best to look to the future. LoSH has had several, though I have no idea which ones are still in continuity. And, as previously noted, the villains have quite a few. These are my favorite DC bricks, though this list is subject to change.
1. Robot Man
2. Solomon Grundy
3. Blok
Oh, hell, this is harder than I thought. I'll get back to you...
:think:
Enforcer84
Jan 20th, '06, 09:02 AM
Ah, Enforcer beat me. To get your hands on 'pure' bricks in the DCverse, it's best to look to the future. LoSH has had several, though I have no idea which ones are still in continuity. And, as previously noted, the villains have quite a few. These are my favorite DC bricks, though this list is subject to change.
1. Robot Man
2. Solomon Grundy
3. Blok
Oh, hell, this is harder than I thought. I'll get back to you...
:think:
There are precious few aren't there?
Isn't there a juggernaut knock off called Cinderblock or something?
Blockbuster, of course, who is a Hullk clone (Now a Smart Hulk Clone)
Loose Cannon was a Hulk clone.
Darkseid's son, what is his name? The dumb one, not Orion.
Log-Man
Jan 20th, '06, 09:08 AM
There are precious few aren't there?
Isn't there a juggernaut knock off called Cinderblock or something?
Is he in the books? I've seen him on the Titans cartoon, but couldn't recall a book appearance.
Blockbuster, of course, who is a Hullk clone (Now a Smart Hulk Clone)
Loose Cannon was a Hulk clone.
I had hopes for Blockbuster, but really neither does anything for me.
Darkseid's son, what is his name? The dumb one, not Orion.
Lenny.
Lenny Darkseid.
Hermit
Jan 20th, '06, 09:13 AM
Yeah, I don't know DC as well, but "pure" bricks do seem to be a bit rarer there. Not that there is anything wrong with that. So perhaps for DC that should be taken into account and not worried as much.
My own picks for "cooler" might include
1. Blue Devil (The fun original version)
2. Aquaman (I have always liked him, even in his cheesier days when they forgot about his Strength half the time)
3. Captain Marvel (Always thought he got the short end of the stick)
4. Superman (Who I used to dislike, but has actually grown on me)
5. Lobo (Because he loves his little Dolphin buddies)
6. Wonder Woman (First lady of Super heroes)
7. Power Girl (Fun to look at, and the poor gal gets her continutiy yanked around almost as badly as Hawkman)
8. Longshadow (Yeah, I know he's an updated Apache Chief made for a one shot on the JLU animated series, but I just thought he was 100% cool)
And then I sort of run out as my ignorance kicks in... I just am not sure.
GoldenAge
Jan 20th, '06, 09:29 AM
My vote goes out to the entire Marvel pantheon.
Without them we wouldn't have Power Girl, Super Girl, Super Boy - you might throw in Mon El and a few others like Bizzaro (Black Adam) too.
The Superman of today is an homage to Cap!
I Love Superman, but if the success of the Marvel Family had not forced him to change he'd just be another ground hopping thug.
Plus I love the whole magic shtick of the Marvel family. That innovation is strictly a response to Superman’s scientific origin. I guess they have always made each other better.
GoldenAge
Jan 20th, '06, 10:00 AM
Well, since Wildstorm is now under the DC umbrella I can add Stormwatch's Fuji to the list. Maul from WildC.A.T.S was good too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuji_%28comics%29
Marketeer
Jan 20th, '06, 11:34 AM
There are precious few aren't there?
Isn't there a juggernaut knock off called Cinderblock or something?
Blockbuster, of course, who is a Hullk clone (Now a Smart Hulk Clone)
Loose Cannon was a Hulk clone.
Darkseid's son, what is his name? The dumb one, not Orion.
Kalibak, who I think was voiced by Michael Dorn in JLU.
:)
Snake Gandhi
Jan 20th, '06, 12:05 PM
Kalibak, who I think was voiced by Michael Dorn in JLU.
:)Yep, thats him. Loved they confrontation he had with Lobo in "Hereafter". Lobo had just dropped a car on him, and as Lobo was walking through the explosion Kalibak tossed the car off and got up.
Kalibak: I will kill you for that.
Lobo: Pretty tough talk for a dead man.
Kalibak: I'm not dead yet!
Lobo: Oh right, my watch is about 10 seconds fast.
Enforcer84
Jan 20th, '06, 12:44 PM
Is he in the books? I've seen him on the Titans cartoon, but couldn't recall a book appearance.
I had hopes for Blockbuster, but really neither does anything for me.
Lenny.
Lenny Darkseid.
I believe he was in an issue of Guy Gardner, Warrior after guy became that living weapon thing. He and Steel were fighting this guy in a Juggernaut like suit sans helmet. It was green I think. He had gray hair in a buzz cut. DOn't recall his name now...
Arkham
Jan 20th, '06, 12:46 PM
Solomon Grundy.
Atom Smasher
Hawk
Blue Devil
Black Adam
Emerald Mask
Jan 21st, '06, 01:13 AM
By preference- Superman, Mon-el, Solomon Grundy,Cpatin Marvel , The Martain Manhunter, Wonder Woman , Lead , Blockbuster, Amazo, Orion, Aquaman, Captain Atom , Kalibak.
FenrisUlf
Jan 21st, '06, 10:08 AM
The only one I can think of aside from Solomon Grundy is that Flash enemy, Girder. You know, the metallic rapist guy? (Talk about 'Iron' Age.)
Lemurion
Jan 21st, '06, 01:01 PM
Blok
Grundy
Hmmmmmmmmmmm......... DC doesn't really do pure bricks
Black Omega
Jan 21st, '06, 02:04 PM
About darned time a few people remebered Mon-El. :)
Lord Mhoram
Jan 21st, '06, 02:39 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmm......... DC doesn't really do pure bricks
Well a brick's Schtick is Strength, and in a world with Superman, that one is pretty much taken, so really what is the point. :)
st barbara
Jan 27th, '06, 09:15 PM
What about "Blockbuster" and "The Shaggy Man" ?
keithcurtis
Jan 28th, '06, 12:33 AM
What about "Blockbuster" and "The Shaggy Man" ?
Both were mentioned several times above.
Keith "Marvel looks to be better for pure slugfests" Curtis
TheRavenIs
Jan 28th, '06, 01:02 PM
1. Superman
2. Supergirl, Kara Zor-El
3. Mon-El
4. Ultra Boy in Strength Mode
5. Martian Manhunter
6. Wonder Woman
7. Captain Marvel and the Marvel Family
8. Big Barta
9. Orion
Kirby
Jan 28th, '06, 05:23 PM
Using these criteria, what would your list for DC be?
I find it hard to include people like Superman and Martian Manhunter, since they are even more "impure" than Thor from the Marvel side. Captain Marvel is probably as impure as I'd like to go. (Alas, since I personally identify Superman as personifying Strength)
In no particular order:
Captain Marvel (and by extension, the Marvel Family)
Big Barda (or Knockout)
Wonder Woman
Mongul
Power Girl (non-Kryptonian version)
Solomon Grundy
Atom Smasher
Orion
Keith "Equal Opportunist" Curtis
As noted previously, DC tends to have multi-talented ("impure" is such an IHA word :D ) "bricks" as opposed to "solely a brick."
The sole bricks I would include:
Kalibak (I think he's the greatest brick)
Captain Marvel, Black Adam (the rest of the Marvel family are just clones)
Big Barda, Lashina (in her "Duchess" guise in Suicide Squad)
The rest, in no particular order:
Orion
Solomon Grundy
Gorilla Grodd (c'mon, he's an ape!)
Lobo (he was great when he came out, but then they just overused him)
The mutli-talented bricks that I would leave out would be:
Superman, Valor/Mon El, Supergirl, Superboy, supercousins, superpets, superkids, Bizarro, etc.
Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, B.I.O.N., Captain Atom, The Atom (Golden Age, I believe)
Hmm, that's all I can think of now, though I was sure I had more in my head.
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