Entangle...ho does this work?

[Dr. MID-Nite]

Hi all,

There's a character from the CKC book, that has a power called Corrupting of the Blood. It's defined as 5 dice entangle with the advantage takes no damage from outside attacks. The special effect(I assume) is that he's freezing the blood in your veins. Now, as a GM, how would you rule as to how to get out of the entangle? Could an energy projector use their powers to free themselves(my first instinct is no)? if so, only chracters with inate super strength can free themselves? Seems too strong in my book, but perhaps I'm just reading the power incorrectly. Opinions?

Rob

[Alibear]

Which character Rob?

[Dr. MID-Nite]

I think his name is Bloodstone..part of the Crowns of Krim...though my question is meant to represent what do do for all SPFX Entangles of a similiar nature...

[kirakane]

Well since Bloodstone recently came up in a supers fight. Our GM chose the harshest possible interpretation which was only the entangled character could use their own strength to break free. We were giving our GM greif during and after the fight because he said the entagle "wore off" later on. "Nope sorry can't talk to you right now Mr. NPC I've been PERMANENTLY paralyzed."

So for all intents an purposes it might as well have been Extradimentional Movement Usable against others send strait to Hell. Or NND Entangle based on Time Stop. Or a 30d6 energy blast. And any other nasty power that requires nothing more than a to hit roll to eliminate someone.

If the GM chooses to play it out where only the characters own strength can be used to break free there had better be at least a commonly defined way to get out of the entangle.

Game mechanics wise this is no diffrence between Bloodstone's "freeze blood' and "handcuffs". Treat it like any other entangle that has takes no damage from attacks. The person trying to help out takes a -3 penalty to hit and targets the enangle. In the case of "frozen blood" the helper uses his strength to wiggle the persons limbs and get blood flowing again. The EB user shoots the person a glancing blow and shocks thier system into moving and so on ...

At worst I would treat it as "entangle does not act as a defense" and still make the helper take the -3 penalty to hit and if they missed by the 3 pt spread they hit the entangled person squarely and the entagle takes no damage.

[Derek Hiemforth]

Page 109 of H5E states that Entangle Takes No Damage From Attacks just means that, if you want to damage the Entangle, you have to target it specifically at -3 OCV. It's not impossible to hit the Entangle, you just have to deliberately try to do so... it's not getting hit by default every time the character is hit.