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Mr. Negative

May 27th, '03, 10:04 PM

This has probably been posted before, but I couldn't locate it with a Forum search, so:

More for my own edification than for game use, how DO you write up Wolverine's regeneration?

Most specifically, I'm looking for the X-Men "movie regeneration" rather than that from the comic books. Let me lay out what I perceived as it's defining characteristics, so that anyone with a good idea might be able to model it.

Logan regenerates rapidly, but not immediately, from his wounds. The bullet to the head takes some time to heal.

Logan recovers from every individual injury quite rapidly. It doesn't appear that multiple "minor" injuries are as threatening as a single major injury. He loses consciousness in the wreck, in the Sabertooth fight, when impaling himself to escape, and when shot in the head, but the many, many cuts inflicted by Deathstrike seem to heal very rapidly (during the course of the combat), and any injuries caused by the soldier's shooting were gone by the time the combat was over. This is the most difficult part for me to simulate, as HERO normally represents BODY healing as recovering points of total BODY lost, rather than healing every single BODY injury.

Logan is susceptible to stunning (and seems to recover stun slower than Body). He remains unconscious for quite some time following his first fight with Sabertooth, and his "brush" with Rogue. However, he does recover much more quickly from normal attacks than others. Lady Deathstrike's claws and the soldier's bullets pain him, but don't seem to inconvenience him severely.

He recovers from toxins quite rapidly. The paralysis darts used on the others don't seem to work. This might simply be bought as immunity to "this, that, and the other", but I'm unsure if his resistance is that quick, or if he should recover attributes from Drain Attribute attacks.

He doesn't seem to tire easily. He seems to wake up from unconsciousness and have plenty of energy (e.g. END). He grabs Jean immediately upon awakening, and then strides down the halls of the mansion. He certainly doesn't appear winded (although little of this uses END).

Healing (BODY & Stun) doesn't seem to work too well, as there appears to be no upper limit of body damage that Logan can heal (as all of his injuries heal until they are gone). From the movie it is unclear if he would actually recover from death, but as Lady Deathstrike has apparently similar abilites, and was apparently killed, it would appear that he does not. In addition, Healing, even if always on, is apportioned out between injuries, rather than healing every single injury simultaneously (it would appear, for example, that Logan heals from 6 3 point wounds faster than 1 18 Body wound, but just as fast as from 1 3 BODY wound). Note that his cigar burn takes at least as much time to heal as the presumably more lethal attacks of Deathstrike.

Regeneration doesn't seem to work, as it also applies to total BODY lost, rather than per wound, plus, getting it up to heal Logan rapidly would require an ENORMOUS amount of regeneration, as he can evidently heal from what would otherwise be mortal blows in a matter of seconds.

Any solution that seems to reflect Logan's abilities seems ridiculously high-powered, but Logan's regeneration doesn't, on the surface, seem too powerful. He can be hurt, easily (like with a cigar), he can be rendered unconscious (with a single bullet, no less), he can be knocked unconscious for a substantial amount of time (at least the travel time from the site of the Sabertooth ambush to Westchester), and can evidently be killed by sufficently deadly attacks (like molten adamantium, so possibly even by burning or caustic agents). Can you think of a way to represent this without a total boatload of points?

Pattern Ghost

May 27th, '03, 10:57 PM

Give him less CON, more REC. That'd make him easier to Stun and let him pop up after getting KO'd pretty fast.

For the resistance to toxins, buy LS.

For the minor cuts healing at combat speed, a low amount of resistant defenses defined as "instant healing."

For bigger regen, some regular old vanilla regen.

Killer Shrike

May 27th, '03, 11:49 PM

You are forgetting SFX. There are number of schticks that can be explained away as "Regeneration".

For the annoyance scratches, thats just a SFX of Damage Resistance; he regens the damage so fast its like he never took it. 6 PD 6 ED Hardened sounds good; wont stop a bullet, but will prevent the 'death by 1000 cuts' of Lady Deathstrike.

As for the bullet to the head, thats just a classic example of a high STUN multiple going off. Little BODY got through, but the STUN was too much and knocked him out. Same with the car crash; he got knocked into "GMs discretion land" by the STUN.

For the Quick Recovery, give Wolvie a REC equal to his STUN and END, or very close. Even a REC of say 30 would bring him to his feet ready to rumble fast once he was allowed to take a Recovery by the GM. An impractically high REC could be an interesting facet for a regenerator.

Vs the sleeping darts, twofold; give him both LS vs All toxins and All Poisons with the Extra Time (Extra Segment) and Requires CON Roll limitations. Also, give him Power Defence to make him resistant to Drain based poisons/drugs.

As for his actual Regeneration, he could probably get by with 5 Body/TURN. Combined with Damage Resistances and maybe even Damage Reduction that should be plenty.

The_Saint

May 28th, '03, 01:02 AM

Just give him Damage Reduction and Regeneration.Damage Reduction simulates his Fast Healing Abilities and Resistances to Toxins/Tranquilizers.Defenses are not that high and no resistant Defenses.Con-Value is about 20,that's sufficient.Body is high.He needs it,to take larger amounts of Killing Damage and represents his Adamantium Skeleton.By that way,he is hard to kill,but it still possible tu stun him or even knock him out.

Killer Shrike

May 28th, '03, 01:28 AM

Here is a very high-ball pass. Trim down to suit.

<table border=1><tr><td bgcolor="white"> 
<table><tr><td width=85%><table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Val  </td><td>Char   </td><td>Cost</td></tr><tr><td align="right">18  </td><td>STR</td><td>8</td></tr><tr><td align="right">23  </td><td>DEX</td><td>39</td></tr><tr><td align="right">30  </td><td>CON</td><td>40</td></tr><tr><td align="right">30  </td><td>BODY</td><td>40</td></tr><tr><td align="right">15  </td><td>INT</td><td>5</td></tr><tr><td align="right">25  </td><td>EGO</td><td>30</td></tr><tr><td align="right">25/50  </td><td>PRE</td><td>15</td></tr><tr><td align="right">10  </td><td>COM</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td></td><td> </td><td></td></tr><tr><td align="right">6  </td><td>PD</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td align="right">6  </td><td>ED</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td align="right">6  </td><td>SPD</td><td>27</td></tr><tr><td align="right">50  </td><td>REC</td><td>80</td></tr><tr><td align="right">60  </td><td>END</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td align="right">50  </td><td>STUN</td><td>-4</td></tr><td></td><td> </td><td></td></tr><tr><td align="right">9"  </td><td>RUN</td><td>6</td></tr><tr><td align="right">4"  </td><td>SWIM</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td align="right">8 1/2"  </td><td>LEAP</td><td>5</td></tr></table>Characteristics Cost: 295</td><td><img src="http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=67979"></td></tr></table>
 <table border="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td align="right">Cost  </td><td>Power</td><td align="right">END</td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">7  </td><td>Quick Healing: Damage Resistance (6 PD/6 ED), Hardened (+1/4) (7 Active Points) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">15  </td><td>Healing Factor: Power Defense (15 points) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">22  </td><td>Healing Factor: Healing 3d6 (max. Healed Points: 18), Reduced Endurance 0 END (+1/2), Persistent (+1/2) (60 Active Points); Extra Time 1 Turn (Post-Segment 12) (-1 1/4), Self Only (-1/2) [Notes: Regeneration; No Healing Max (see FREd p. 120).] </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">11  </td><td>Healing Factor: Life Support , Immunity: All terrestrial diseases and biowarfare agents, Immunity: All terrestrial poisons and chemical warfare agents (20 Active Points); Extra Time Extra Segment, Only to Activate Constant or Persistent Power (-1/4), Delayed Phase (-1/4), Requires A CON Roll (-1/4) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">12  </td><td>Altered Metabolism: Life Support , Eating: Character only has to eat once per week, Extended Breathing, Longevity: 400 Years, Safe in High Radiation, Safe in Intense Cold, Safe in Intense Heat, Sleeping: Character only has to sleep 8 hours per week </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">20  </td><td>Armored Skeleton: Physical Damage Reduction, Resistant, 50% (30 Active Points); BODY Only (-1/2) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">3  </td><td>Armored Skeleton: Lack Of Weakness (-3) for Resistant Defenses </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">6  </td><td>Armored Skeleton: Knockback Resistance -3" </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">45  </td><td>Armored Skeleton: Hand-To-Hand Attack +3d6, Inherent (+1/4), Invisible Power Effects, SFX Only (Fully Invisible; +1/2), Reduced Endurance 0 END (+1/2), Persistent (+1/2), Damage Shield (+1/2), Offensive (+1/4), Continuous (+1) (67 Active Points); Hand-To-Hand Attack (-1/2) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">25  </td><td>Mental Feedback: Ego Attack 1 1/2d6, Inherent (+1/4), Damage Shield (+1/2), Reduced Endurance 0 END (+1/2), Persistent (+1/2), Continuous (+1) (56 Active Points); No Conscious Control (-2), Only Effects cannot be controlled (+1), Does Not Provide Mental Awareness (-1/4) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">5  </td><td>Feral Mind: +5 Mental Defense (10 points total) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">92  </td><td>Claws: Multipower, 138-point reserve, all slots: (138 Active Points); Restrainable (-1/2) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">8u  </td><td>1) Killing Attack - Hand-To-Hand 4d6 -1 (plus STR) (vs. PD), Reduced Endurance 0 END (+1/2), Armor Piercing x2 (+1) (137 Active Points); No Knockback (-1/4) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">8u  </td><td>2) Killing Attack - Hand-To-Hand 4d6 -1 (plus STR) (vs. PD), Autofire (5 shots; +1/2), Reduced Endurance 0 END (+1) (137 Active Points); No Knockback (-1/4) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">8u  </td><td>3) Killing Attack - Hand-To-Hand 6d6 (plus STR) (vs. PD), Reduced Endurance 0 END (+1/2) (135 Active Points); No Knockback (-1/4) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">9u  </td><td>4) Tunneling 1" through 30 DEF material, Reduced Endurance 0 END (+1/2) (138 Active Points) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">8  </td><td>Claws: Clinging (28 STR) (14 Active Points); Restrainable (-1/2), Cannot Resist Knockback (-1/4) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">20  </td><td>Claws: Find Weakness 11- (Related Group of Attacks) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">20  </td><td>Tracking: Tracking (Smell/Taste Group; Additional Sense Group: Hearing Group), Sense Affected As Another Sense (+0) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">40  </td><td>Heightened Sences: Targeting Sense (Smell/Taste Group; Additional Sense Group: Hearing Group) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">5  </td><td>Heightened Sences: Nightvision, Sense Affected As Another Sense (+0) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">15  </td><td>Heightened Sences: Enhanced Perception (+5 to PER Rolls for All Sense Groups) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">11  </td><td>Snikt, bub: +25 PRE (25 Active Points); Offensive Only (-1), Must "pop claws" out (-1/4) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr></table>Powers Cost: 415
 <table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Cost  </td><td>Martial Arts Maneuver</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">16  </td><td>+4 HTH Damage Class(es) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">  </td><td>Commando Training </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>1) Akido Throw: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +1 DCV, STR +4d6 +v/5, Target Falls </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>2) Boxing Cross: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +2 DCV, STR +6d6 Strike </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>3) Choke: 1/2 Phase, -2 OCV, +0 DCV, Grab One Limb; 4d6 NND </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>4) Escape: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +0 DCV, +35 STR vs. Grabs </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>5) Hold: 1/2 Phase, -1 OCV, -1 DCV, Grab Three Limbs, +30 STR for holding on </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>6) Judo Disarm: 1/2 Phase, -1 OCV, +1 DCV, Disarm; +30 STR to Disarm roll </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>7) Kung Fu Block: 1/2 Phase, +2 OCV, +2 DCV, Block, Abort </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">1  </td><td>8) Weapon Element: Clubs </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">1  </td><td>9) Weapon Element: Knives </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">  </td><td>Kenjutsu </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">1  </td><td>1) Weapon Element: Empty Hand (Bind, Block, Disarm, Evade, Takeaway maneuvers only) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">0  </td><td>2) Weapon Element: Blades </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>3) Takeaway: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +0 DCV, Grab Weapon, +30 STR to take weapon away </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>4) Slashing Stroke: 1/2 Phase, -2 OCV, +1 DCV, Weapon +8 DC Strike </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>5) Sacrifice Stroke: 1/2 Phase, +1 OCV, -2 DCV, Weapon +8 DC Strike </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>6) Running Stroke: 1/2 Phase, +1 OCV, +0 DCV, Weapon +4 DC +v/5; FMove </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>7) Lightning Stroke: 1/2 Phase, +2 OCV, +0 DCV, Weapon +6 DC Strike </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>8) Block: 1/2 Phase, +2 OCV, +2 DCV, Block, Abort </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>9) Evade: 1/2 Phase, -- OCV, +5 DCV, Dodge, Affects All Attacks, Abort </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>10) Bind: 1/2 Phase, +1 OCV, +0 DCV, Bind, +30 STR </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>11) Disarm: 1/2 Phase, -1 OCV, +1 DCV, Disarm; +30 STR to Disarm roll </td></tr></table>Martial Arts Cost: 86
 <table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Cost  </td><td>Skill</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">20  </td><td>+2 Overall </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10  </td><td>+2 with HTH Combat </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10  </td><td>+2 with DCV </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Acrobatics 14- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">11  </td><td>Animal Handler (Canines, Felines, Other: Voles, Ursines) 17- (22-) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Breakfall 14- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Bribery 14- (19-) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Climbing 14- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Combat Driving 14- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">7  </td><td>Concealment 14- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Deduction 12- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10  </td><td>Defense Maneuver: I-IV  </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Interrogation 14- (19-) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Language: Japanese (completely fluent) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">2  </td><td>Navigation (Land) 12- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Rapid Attack (HTH)  </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Shadowing 12- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Stealth 14- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Streetwise 14- (19-) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>Survival (Arctic/Subarctic, Mountain) 12- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Tracking 12- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">2  </td><td>TF: Common Motorized Ground Vehicles, Two-Wheeled Motorized Ground Vehicles </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10  </td><td>Two-Weapon Fighting (HTH)  </td></tr></table>Skills Cost: 127
 <table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Cost  </td><td>Perk</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">1  </td><td>Reputation (Product of Black Ops Experiments) (A small to medium sized group; 8-) +1/+1d6 </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Reputation (Best there is at what he does) (A small to medium sized group; 14-) +5/+5d6 </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Anonymity (Not in most systems) </td></tr></table>Perks Cost: 11
 <table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Cost  </td><td>Talent</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Ambidexterity (Reduce Off Hand Penalty to -2) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Bump Of Direction </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">15  </td><td>Combat Sense 12- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">30  </td><td>Danger Sense (Area: General Area, Function as a Sense, Intuitional, Sensitivity: Out of Combat) 15- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10  </td><td>Lightning Reflexes: +10 DEX to act first with Single Action </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Resistance (5 points) </td></tr></table>Talents Cost: 66

 <table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Val  </td><td>Disadvantages</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">150  </td><td>Some Disadvantages </td></tr></table>Disadvantage Points: 150
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Cost Summary:
Base Points:500
Disadvantage Points: 150
Experience Required: 350
Total Experience Available: 350

Total Character Cost: 1000
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Killer Shrike

May 28th, '03, 02:06 AM

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Killer Shrike

May 28th, '03, 02:06 AM

4 real this time

PowerMavin

May 28th, '03, 02:39 AM

Is it me or do you always find a way to squeeze in mental and power defense, Life support, and regeneration?

Killer Shrike

May 28th, '03, 06:22 AM

Originally posted by PowerMavin
Is it me or do you always find a way to squeeze in mental and power defense, Life support, and regeneration?

All the X-Men have had Mental Defense training; even in MSHRPG they had an equivalent. Wolvie has also resisted many mental effects over the years, and mentalists usually have difficulty dealing with him. Wolvie has resisted many effects that are best expressed as affecting PowD in HEROs. He does have resistance to toxins & poisons and does age slower. He certainly has regeneration.

While its good to know whats going on in the peanut gallery, Is it me or have I never seen you post characters, at all?

Thanx for your helpful and insightful comments!

Killer Shrike

May 28th, '03, 06:30 AM

Originally posted by PowerMavin
Is it me or do you always find a way to squeeze in mental and power defense, Life support, and regeneration?
But to answer the question, yeah, if I can justify it in the slightest Ill give a character any one of those abilities and the whole lot if possible. They are by far 4 of the best powers in the game.

I like well rounded characters that can be counted on to not spend a month in a hospital between sessions. So sue me.

Which isnt to say that even 1/3 of the characters I design have any of those powers overall. Though it may be prevalant in my recent characters.

Used to be you could heal yourself through other means, but now only Healing heals a character, and only Regen does it all the way. Since its now the only game in town for the effect, its going to get used more often.

tiger

May 28th, '03, 07:15 AM

Please post the hdc file.

I like him, bit high here or there for my taste. But a very good job regardless

johnflang

May 28th, '03, 07:44 AM

When I have wanted a character with wolverines regeneration. I have normally bought it as aid (healing, 0end, always on, persistent) and regeneration. What ends up happening is the small wounds get healed up on my phase and the bigger wounds take a while using regen.

The combination of the number of dice and regen determine how much like wolverine I heal.

Killer Shrike

May 28th, '03, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by tiger
Please post the hdc file.

I like him, bit high here or there for my taste. But a very good job regardless

Ill have to get it tonite; Im at work now.

I ran him highball rather than have fanboys argue incessantly about how he did XYZ in Issue 257 or the time he pulled off ABC in issue 320. File down to fit ;)

its also a very fast pass; I just sat down and did it without any planning or tweeking. Got up to near a 1000 and just rounded him off with a few points here and there for a nice even number.

levi

May 28th, '03, 08:47 AM

I have a brick (named Brawl) who constantly, unconsciously absorbs kinetic energy to replenish himself. He has 1d6 of AID to any Characteristic below normal (+2) Always On (-1/4) O END, Persistent (+1) Inherent (+1/4).

This serves to protect him from everythng from STUN & BODY damage to Drains and Transfers. He's not the strongest or most resilient brick in the campaign, but the Aid combined with average brick PD/ED, Damage Reduction, Life Support and a bit of Power Defense ensures that he almost always gets up and has even earned a term in our game group of the "Brawl Scale of Toughness (Brawl being a 10)".

He does however have a Vulnerability to attacks on his Nervous System that provides the GM with a way to bring him down when it is necessary. I would hope that these Wolvie characters have Vuln/Susc that play his heightened senses against him.

Killer Shrike

May 28th, '03, 09:05 AM

The only problem with that Levi is that AID no longer heals characters. Only HEALING heals. The points from AID fade away, even if you are below your starting values. The same holds true for TRANSFER and ABSORBTION.

Pattern Ghost

May 28th, '03, 11:03 AM

Offensive PRE should be a -1/2 lim instead of -1. Not that it makes a huge difference on this character.

levi

May 28th, '03, 11:49 AM

Only the AID values that exceed normal values dissapate or re-normalize over time as I understood it, but it wouldn't be the first time I misunderstood something...lol

Killer Shrike

May 28th, '03, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by levi
Only the AID values that exceed normal values dissapate or re-normalize over time as I understood it, but it wouldn't be the first time I misunderstood something...lol

Thats how it used to work, but no more under 5th. Only Heal will restore lost characteristics and Heal is limited by a cap. Its a bummer, and why so many characters end up with a little Regen these days. Its the only way to get back any amount of lost BODY short of REC per month, and it doesnt take an action to do it.

Killer Shrike

May 28th, '03, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by Pattern Ghost
Offensive PRE should be a -1/2 lim instead of -1. Not that it makes a huge difference on this character.

Perhaps I was thinking Only to Intimidate/Scare for the -1.

But as you say, whats a few more points either way once you hit the millenium club :D

Urklore

May 29th, '03, 03:16 AM

Please post the hdc file of highball. Our preciousss we mussst have, yessss.

white peregrine

May 29th, '03, 03:57 AM

I've been fiddling around with a "regen" character myself lately and while not "wolverine" it works for me. overall, very low defences, 16/16 with a CV of 7. as I would rather not be taken out of every combat in one hit I gave 'em a 30 Con. The "regeneration" of the character consists of 4d6 Healing(regeneration BGB) and a 30 Recovery. I also gave him 30 Body to help show the amount of damage it takes to put him down for the count...although with his regen it should be to long before he gets back up...

Killer Shrike

May 29th, '03, 08:31 AM

Some tweeks

<table border=1><tr><td bgcolor="white">Wolverine Logan, Weapon X, SNIKT 
<table><tr><td width=85%><table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Val  </td><td>Char   </td><td>Cost</td></tr><tr><td align="right">18  </td><td>STR</td><td>8</td></tr><tr><td align="right">23  </td><td>DEX</td><td>39</td></tr><tr><td align="right">30  </td><td>CON</td><td>40</td></tr><tr><td align="right">30  </td><td>BODY</td><td>40</td></tr><tr><td align="right">15  </td><td>INT</td><td>5</td></tr><tr><td align="right">25  </td><td>EGO</td><td>30</td></tr><tr><td align="right">25/50  </td><td>PRE</td><td>15</td></tr><tr><td align="right">10  </td><td>COM</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td></td><td> </td><td></td></tr><tr><td align="right">6  </td><td>PD</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td align="right">6  </td><td>ED</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td align="right">6  </td><td>SPD</td><td>27</td></tr><tr><td align="right">50  </td><td>REC</td><td>80</td></tr><tr><td align="right">60  </td><td>END</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td align="right">50  </td><td>STUN</td><td>-4</td></tr><td></td><td> </td><td></td></tr><tr><td align="right">10"  </td><td>RUN</td><td>8</td></tr><tr><td align="right">4"  </td><td>SWIM</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td align="right">9 1/2"  </td><td>LEAP</td><td>6</td></tr></table>Characteristics Cost: 298</td><td><img src="http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=69578"></td></tr></table>
 <table border="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td align="right">Cost  </td><td>Power</td><td align="right">END</td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">7  </td><td>Quick Healing: Damage Resistance (6 PD/6 ED), Hardened (+1/4) (7 Active Points) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">15  </td><td>Healing Factor: Power Defense (15 points) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">22  </td><td>Healing Factor: Healing 3d6 (max. Healed Points: 18), Reduced Endurance 0 END (+1/2), Persistent (+1/2) (60 Active Points); Extra Time 1 Turn (Post-Segment 12) (-1 1/4), Self Only (-1/2) [Notes: Regeneration; No Healing Max (see FREd p. 120).] </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">11  </td><td>Healing Factor: Life Support , Immunity: All terrestrial diseases and biowarfare agents, Immunity: All terrestrial poisons and chemical warfare agents (20 Active Points); Extra Time Extra Segment, Only to Activate Constant or Persistent Power (-1/4), Delayed Phase (-1/4), Requires A CON Roll (-1/4) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">12  </td><td>Altered Metabolism: Life Support , Eating: Character only has to eat once per week, Extended Breathing, Longevity: 400 Years, Safe in High Radiation, Safe in Intense Cold, Safe in Intense Heat, Sleeping: Character only has to sleep 8 hours per week </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">20  </td><td>Armored Skeleton: Physical Damage Reduction, Resistant, 50% (30 Active Points); BODY Only (-1/2) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">3  </td><td>Armored Skeleton: Lack Of Weakness (-3) for Resistant Defenses </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">6  </td><td>Armored Skeleton: Knockback Resistance -3" </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">45  </td><td>Armored Skeleton: Hand-To-Hand Attack +3d6, Inherent (+1/4), Invisible Power Effects, SFX Only (Fully Invisible; +1/2), Reduced Endurance 0 END (+1/2), Persistent (+1/2), Damage Shield (+1/2), Offensive (+1/4), Continuous (+1) (67 Active Points); Hand-To-Hand Attack (-1/2) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">25  </td><td>Mental Feedback: Ego Attack 1 1/2d6, Inherent (+1/4), Damage Shield (+1/2), Reduced Endurance 0 END (+1/2), Persistent (+1/2), Continuous (+1) (56 Active Points); No Conscious Control (-2), Only Effects cannot be controlled (+1), Does Not Provide Mental Awareness (-1/4) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">5  </td><td>Feral Mind: +5 Mental Defense (10 points total) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">92  </td><td>Claws: Multipower, 138-point reserve, all slots: (138 Active Points); Restrainable (-1/2) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">8u  </td><td>1) Claws I (Slash-O-Matic): Killing Attack - Hand-To-Hand 4d6 -1 (plus STR) (vs. PD), Reduced Endurance 0 END (+1/2), Armor Piercing x2 (+1) (137 Active Points); No Knockback (-1/4) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">8u  </td><td>2) Claws II (Ripper Barrage): Killing Attack - Hand-To-Hand 4d6 -1 (plus STR) (vs. PD), Autofire (5 shots; +1/2), Reduced Endurance 0 END (+1) (137 Active Points); No Knockback (-1/4) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">8u  </td><td>3) Claws III (Impale): Killing Attack - Hand-To-Hand 6d6 (plus STR) (vs. PD), Reduced Endurance 0 END (+1/2) (135 Active Points); No Knockback (-1/4) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">9u  </td><td>4) Wallcutter: Tunneling 1" through 30 DEF material, Reduced Endurance 0 END (+1/2) (138 Active Points) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">8  </td><td>Claws IV (Pitons): Clinging (28 STR) (14 Active Points); Restrainable (-1/2), Cannot Resist Knockback (-1/4) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">20  </td><td>Canny Fighter: Find Weakness 11- (Related Group of Attacks (Claws)) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">20  </td><td>Tracking: Tracking (Smell/Taste Group; Additional Sense Group: Hearing Group), Sense Affected As Another Sense (+0) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">40  </td><td>Heightened Sences: Targeting Sense (Smell/Taste Group; Additional Sense Group: Hearing Group) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">5  </td><td>Heightened Sences: Nightvision, Sense Affected As Another Sense (+0) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">15  </td><td>Heightened Sences: Enhanced Perception (+5 to PER Rolls for All Sense Groups) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">11  </td><td>Snikt, bub: +25 PRE (25 Active Points); Fear Only (-1), Must "pop claws" out (-1/4) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr></table>Powers Cost: 415
 <table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Cost  </td><td>Martial Arts Maneuver</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">16  </td><td>+4 HTH Damage Class(es) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">  </td><td>Commando Training [Notes: Mr. Scrappy] </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>1) Akido Throw: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +1 DCV, STR +4d6 +v/5, Target Falls </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>2) Boxing Cross: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +2 DCV, STR +6d6 Strike </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>3) Choke: 1/2 Phase, -2 OCV, +0 DCV, Grab One Limb; 4d6 NND </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>4) Escape: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +0 DCV, +35 STR vs. Grabs </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>5) Hold: 1/2 Phase, -1 OCV, -1 DCV, Grab Three Limbs, +30 STR for holding on </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>6) Judo Disarm: 1/2 Phase, -1 OCV, +1 DCV, Disarm; +30 STR to Disarm roll </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>7) Kung Fu Block: 1/2 Phase, +2 OCV, +2 DCV, Block, Abort </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">1  </td><td>8) Weapon Element: Clubs </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">1  </td><td>9) Weapon Element: Knives </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">  </td><td>Kenjutsu [Notes: For all those Frank Miller Story Arcs ;)] </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">1  </td><td>1) Weapon Element: Empty Hand (Bind, Block, Disarm, Evade, Takeaway maneuvers only) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">0  </td><td>2) Weapon Element: Blades </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>3) Takeaway: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +0 DCV, Grab Weapon, +30 STR to take weapon away </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>4) Slashing Stroke: 1/2 Phase, -2 OCV, +1 DCV, Weapon +8 DC Strike </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>5) Sacrifice Stroke: 1/2 Phase, +1 OCV, -2 DCV, Weapon +8 DC Strike </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>6) Running Stroke: 1/2 Phase, +1 OCV, +0 DCV, Weapon +4 DC +v/5; FMove </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>7) Lightning Stroke: 1/2 Phase, +2 OCV, +0 DCV, Weapon +6 DC Strike </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>8) Block: 1/2 Phase, +2 OCV, +2 DCV, Block, Abort </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>9) Evade: 1/2 Phase, -- OCV, +5 DCV, Dodge, Affects All Attacks, Abort </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>10) Bind: 1/2 Phase, +1 OCV, +0 DCV, Bind, +30 STR </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>11) Disarm: 1/2 Phase, -1 OCV, +1 DCV, Disarm; +30 STR to Disarm roll </td></tr></table>Martial Arts Cost: 86
 <table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Cost  </td><td>Skill</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">20  </td><td>+2 Overall </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10  </td><td>+2 with HTH Combat </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">12  </td><td>+4 vs FOCI, Restrainable Powers, Held Objects </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10  </td><td>+2 with DCV </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Acrobatics 14- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">11  </td><td>Animal Handler (Canines, Felines, Other: Voles, Ursines) 17- (22-) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Breakfall 14- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Bribery 14- (19-) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Climbing 14- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Combat Driving 14- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">7  </td><td>Concealment 14- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Deduction 12- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10  </td><td>Defense Maneuver: I-IV  </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Interrogation 14- (19-) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Language: Japanese (completely fluent) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">2  </td><td>Navigation (Land) 12- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Rapid Attack (HTH)  </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Shadowing 12- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Stealth 14- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Streetwise 14- (19-) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>Survival (Arctic/Subarctic, Mountain) 12- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Tracking 12- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">2  </td><td>TF: Common Motorized Ground Vehicles, Two-Wheeled Motorized Ground Vehicles </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10  </td><td>Two-Weapon Fighting (HTH)  </td></tr></table>Skills Cost: 139
 <table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Cost  </td><td>Perk</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">1  </td><td>Reputation (Product of Black Ops Experiments) (A small to medium sized group; 8-) +1/+1d6 </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Reputation (Best there is at what he does) (A small to medium sized group; 14-) +5/+5d6 </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Anonymity (Not in most systems) </td></tr></table>Perks Cost: 11
 <table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Cost  </td><td>Talent</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Ambidexterity (Reduce Off Hand Penalty to -2) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Bump Of Direction </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">30  </td><td>Danger Sense (Area: General Area, Function as a Sense, Intuitional, Sensitivity: Out of Combat) 15- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10  </td><td>Lightning Reflexes: +10 DEX to act first with Single Action (Claws I) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Resistance (5 points) </td></tr></table>Talents Cost: 51

 <table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Val  </td><td>Disadvantages</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Vulnerability: 1 1/2 x Effect Magnetic Powers (Uncommon) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Susceptibility: Strong Magnetic Fields 1d6 damage, Instant (Uncommon) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Physical Limitation: Sets off Metal Detectors (Infrequently; Slightly Impairing) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Dependent NPC: Teenage Girl (Jubilee, Rogue, or Shadow Cat at various times and arcs) 11- (Slightly Less Powerful than the PC; Useful noncombat position or skills) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Distinctive Features: Strange hairdo (Easily Concealed; Noticed and Recognizable; Detectable By Commonly-Used Senses) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">35  </td><td>Enraged: When pushed to the limit (BODY 5 or less) (Uncommon), go 14-, recover 8-, Berserk </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">20  </td><td>Enraged: When Thwarted (Uncommon), go 14-, recover 11- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10  </td><td>Hunted: Sabretooth 8- (As Pow; Harshly Punish) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">25  </td><td>Hunted: By all kinds of people 11- (Mo Pow; Harshly Punish; Extensive Non-Combat Influence) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10  </td><td>Reputation: Hardass 11- (Known Only To A Small Group (Extreme)) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10  </td><td>Vulnerability: Flashes (Common) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">15  </td><td>Unluck: 3d6 </td></tr></table>Disadvantage Points: 150
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Cost Summary:
Base Points:500
Disadvantage Points: 150
Experience Required: 350
Total Experience Available: 350

Total Character Cost: 1000
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<table width="100%" valign="top"><tr valign="top"><td>Height: 5' 8"</td><td>Hair: Brown</td></tr><tr valign="top"><td>Weight: 220 lbs</td><td>Eyes: Brown</td></tr><tr valign="top"><td colspan=2>Appearance: Short, mean and hairy. Dresses like a lumberjack (but he's OK).</td></tr><tr valign="top"><td colspan=2>Personality: Drink beer, smoke stogies</td></tr><tr valign="top"><td colspan=2>Quote:"I'm the best there is at what I do-- and what I do best isn't very nice.", "Bub"</td></tr><tr valign="top"><td colspan=2>Background: To confused to go into.</td></tr><tr valign="top"><td colspan=2>Powers/Tactics: Regen, Adamantium Skeleton, Claws, nasty Scrapper.</td></tr><tr valign="top"><td colspan=2>Campaign Use: Endless story hooks</td></tr></table>
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Killer Shrike

May 30th, '03, 11:16 AM

Found a new pic

Killer Shrike

May 30th, '03, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by Morningstar70
You could take a few XP required off by going into Wolvie's psyche, like his loyalty, his fear of getting emotionally attached, his self loathing, and his irritability. :)
Too touchy-feely for me. I like Wolvy best when he's just a roughneck beatdown artist. I didnt like the mangled menstruating heart version some writers took the character in.

Cain

May 30th, '03, 03:34 PM

Let me know what you all think...

Brandi

May 30th, '03, 05:10 PM

Good writeup, Shrike, but I'm a bit surprised by your choice of quote! I thought it was generally known that THE Wolverine quote was 'I'm the best there is at what I do-- and what I do best isn't very nice.'

Killer Shrike

May 30th, '03, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by Brandi
Good writeup, Shrike, but I'm a bit surprised by your choice of quote! I thought it was generally known that THE Wolverine quote was 'I'm the best there is at what I do-- and what I do best isn't very nice.'
I cant remember him saying that as often as he managed to work the non-word "Bub" into every other dialogue bubble ;)

Killer Shrike

May 30th, '03, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by Cain
Let me know what you all think...

Could you just post it please? Set Export Templates -> HERO Boards then Preview Character. Copy and Paste the output into the msg box for the board post and viola.

Cain

May 31st, '03, 05:06 AM

Wolverine

Player: NPC

<table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Val  </td><td>Char   </td><td>Cost</td></tr><tr><td align="right">15  </td><td>STR</td><td>5</td></tr><tr><td align="right">26  </td><td>DEX</td><td>48</td></tr><tr><td align="right">26  </td><td>CON</td><td>32</td></tr><tr><td align="right">26  </td><td>BODY</td><td>32</td></tr><tr><td align="right">9  </td><td>INT</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td align="right">30  </td><td>EGO</td><td>40</td></tr><tr><td align="right">27  </td><td>PRE</td><td>17</td></tr><tr><td align="right">9  </td><td>COM</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td></td><td> </td><td></td></tr><tr><td align="right">15/27  </td><td>PD</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td align="right">17/29  </td><td>ED</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td align="right">6  </td><td>SPD</td><td>24</td></tr><tr><td align="right">25  </td><td>REC</td><td>34</td></tr><tr><td align="right">52  </td><td>END</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td align="right">47  </td><td>STUN</td><td>0</td></tr><td></td><td> </td><td></td></tr><tr><td align="right">5"  </td><td>RUN</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr><td align="right">2"  </td><td>SWIM</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td align="right">3"  </td><td>LEAP</td><td>0</td></tr></table>Characteristics Cost: 229

<table border="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td align="right">Cost  </td><td>Power</td><td align="right">END</td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">5  </td><td>Life Support , Longevity: Immortal </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">58  </td><td>Regeneration: Healing 8d6 (max. Healed Points: 48), Reduced Endurance 0 END (+1/2), Persistent (+1/2) (160 Active Points); Extra Time 1 Turn (Post-Segment 12) (-1 1/4), Self Only (-1/2) [Notes: No Healing Max (see FREd p. 120).] </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">36  </td><td>Adamantium Skeleton: Armor (12 PD/12 ED) </td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">84  </td><td>Adamantium Claws: Killing Attack - Hand-To-Hand 4d6 (plus STR) (vs. PD), Reduced Endurance 1/2 END (+1/4), Penetrating (+1/2) (105 Active Points); No Knockback (-1/4) </td><td valign="top" align="right">4</td></tr></table>Powers Cost: 183

<table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Cost  </td><td>Martial Arts Maneuver</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Basic Strike: 1/2 Phase, +1 OCV, +0 DCV, STR +2d6 Strike </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>Charge: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, -2 DCV, STR +2d6 +v/5 Strike, FMove </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>Counterstrike: 1/2 Phase, +2 OCV, +2 DCV, STR +2d6 Strike, Must Follow Block </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Defensive Block: 1/2 Phase, +1 OCV, +3 DCV, Block, Abort </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Defensive Strike: 1/2 Phase, +1 OCV, +3 DCV, STR Strike </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>Fast Strike: 1/2 Phase, +2 OCV, +0 DCV, STR +2d6 Strike </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Flying Dodge: 1/2 Phase, -- OCV, +4 DCV, Dodge All Attacks, Abort; FMove </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Flying Grab: 1/2 Phase, -2 OCV, -1 DCV, Grab Two Limbs, +10 STR for holding on; FMove </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Flying Tackle: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, -1 DCV, STR +v/5 Strike; You Fall, Target Falls; FMove </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>Killing Strike: 1/2 Phase, -2 OCV, +0 DCV, HKA 0 1/2d6 </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>Martial Block: 1/2 Phase, +2 OCV, +2 DCV, Block, Abort </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>Martial Dodge: 1/2 Phase, -- OCV, +5 DCV, Dodge, Affects All Attacks, Abort </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>Martial Strike: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +2 DCV, STR +2d6 Strike </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Offensive Strike: 1/2 Phase, -2 OCV, +1 DCV, STR +4d6 Strike </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>Reversal: var Phase, -1 OCV, -2 DCV, +15 STR to Escape; Grab Two Limbs </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">11  </td><td>Weapon Element: Assault Rifles/LMGs, Early Thrown Grenades, Handguns, Karate Weapons, Ninja Weapons, Rifles, Shotguns, Submachine Guns, Thrown Grenades, Thrown Sword, Two-Handed Weapons </td></tr></table>Martial Arts Cost: 74

<table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Cost  </td><td>Skill</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">75  </td><td>+15 with HTH Combat </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Acrobatics 15- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Accurate Sprayfire </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">7  </td><td>Breakfall 16- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Climbing 15- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">9  </td><td>Interrogation 17- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5  </td><td>Rapid Attack (HTH)  </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">7  </td><td>Stealth 16- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">8  </td><td>WF: Common Melee Weapons, Karate Weapons, Ninja Weapons, Small Arms, Thrown Sword, Vehicle Weapons </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>Animal Handler (Canines) 15- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Language: German (completely fluent) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">1  </td><td>Language: French (basic conversation) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">4  </td><td>Language: Japanese (idiomatic) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">9  </td><td>Persuasion 17- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">7  </td><td>Streetwise 16- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">13  </td><td>Survival (Arctic/Subarctic Forests, Mountain) 16- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">15  </td><td>Tracking 17- </td></tr></table>Skills Cost: 182

<table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Cost  </td><td>Perk</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>X-Mansion: Access </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">48  </td><td>X-Men: Contact (Contact has access to major institutions, Contact has significant Contacts of his own, Contact has: extremely useful Skills or resources, Very Good relationship with Contact), Organization Contact (+2) (48 Active Points) 18- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">15  </td><td>Avengers: Contact (Contact has significant Contacts of his own, Contact has: extremely useful Skills or resources), Organization Contact (+2) (15 Active Points) 8- </td></tr></table>Perks Cost: 66

<table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Cost  </td><td>Talent</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">24  </td><td>Combat Luck (12 PD/12 ED) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">26  </td><td>Combat Sense (Tracking) 17- </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3  </td><td>Lightsleep </td></tr></table>Talents Cost: 53

Total Character Cost: 787

<table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right">Val  </td><td>Disadvantages</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">35  </td><td>Enraged: Combat (Uncommon), go 14-, recover 8-, Berserk </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">25  </td><td>Psychological Limitation: Can't Remember Past (Very Common; Total) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">20  </td><td>Reputation: Will Kill 14- (Extreme) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10  </td><td>Vulnerability: 2 x STUN Magnetic (Uncommon) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">20  </td><td>Vulnerability: 2 x Effect Electrical/Lightning (Common) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">15  </td><td>Hunted: Magneto 8- (Mo Pow; Harshly Punish) </td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">0  </td><td>Distinctive Features: Stylish Haircut (Easily Concealed), Noticed and Recognizable, Detectable By Commonly-Used Senses, Not Distinctive In Some Cultures </td></tr></table>
Disadvantage Points: 125

Base Points: 200
Experience Required: 462
Total Experience Available: 462
Experience Unspent: 0

Now I know you're thinking there's 2 things sold down and that's not too kosher...but everything I've read or seen made me do that. If you want to put him to legality then just raise his Running to the normal 6".

Cain

May 31st, '03, 01:10 PM

You know it's all subject to change at the whim of the writers, but...http://www.marvel.com/bios/bios.htm?id=1&family=X-MEN

ZootSoot

Jun 1st, '03, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by Killer Shrike
You are forgetting SFX. There are number of schticks that can be explained away as "Regeneration".

For the annoyance scratches, thats just a SFX of Damage Resistance; he regens the damage so fast its like he never took it. 6 PD 6 ED Hardened sounds good; wont stop a bullet, but will prevent the 'death by 1000 cuts' of Lady Deathstrike.

As for the bullet to the head, thats just a classic example of a high STUN multiple going off. Little BODY got through, but the STUN was too much and knocked him out. Same with the car crash; he got knocked into "GMs discretion land" by the STUN.

For the Quick Recovery, give Wolvie a REC equal to his STUN and END, or very close. Even a REC of say 30 would bring him to his feet ready to rumble fast once he was allowed to take a Recovery by the GM. An impractically high REC could be an interesting facet for a regenerator.

Vs the sleeping darts, twofold; give him both LS vs All toxins and All Poisons with the Extra Time (Extra Segment) and Requires CON Roll limitations. Also, give him Power Defence to make him resistant to Drain based poisons/drugs.

As for his actual Regeneration, he could probably get by with 5 Body/TURN. Combined with Damage Resistances and maybe even Damage Reduction that should be plenty.

I can't see Wolverine having more than 1/turn regeneration. That's 5 Body per minute, 300 Body per hour, surely he doesn't need more than that.

Killer Shrike

Jun 1st, '03, 09:57 PM

Originally posted by ZootSoot
I can't see Wolverine having more than 1/turn regeneration. That's 5 Body per minute, 300 Body per hour, surely he doesn't need more than that.
He's supposed to have a "phenomenal healing factor", remarkable even for a mutant with a healing factor. I dont think 7 points really covers that. YMMV.

ZootSoot

Jun 1st, '03, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by Killer Shrike
He's supposed to have a "phenomenal healing factor", remarkable even for a mutant with a healing factor. I dont think 7 points really covers that. YMMV.

300 Body an hour isn't phenomenal? If you want him to be the best have everyone else buy the power down the time chart.

Morningstar

Jun 1st, '03, 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by Killer Shrike
He's supposed to have a "phenomenal healing factor", remarkable even for a mutant with a healing factor. I dont think 7 points really covers that. YMMV.
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300 Body an hour isn't phenomenal? If you want him to be the best have everyone else buy the power down the time chart.

[B] Wolverine has been taken down by wounds that took weeks to heal completely. I think I large amount of body and the standard 2 BD regen should be fine for him. That heals a normal human from 0 to full in one minute. Sounds reasonable to me. I understand if you want higher if there are to many characters running around in your world with standard 2 BD and you want him to be better but the effect per minute is a little over the top. Wolverine regulary limps home from battles and heals later, which is slower than than the 2 BD regen by far.

Killer Shrike

Jun 1st, '03, 10:34 PM

Whichever. Everyone is more than welcome to post thier version of Wolverine. The more the merrier; lets have a plethora of Logans.

AnotherSkip

Jun 2nd, '03, 06:17 AM

actually perhaps the "limping home part' is his way of amking it look like it was tougher thn it really was.

Alll part of the shell game bub.