Naruto

[The Rose]

Hello My Hero Elite.


I was really board last night and it started to puzzel me. How would you best buy/make the abilities showcased on Naruto? For certain characters like Sakura it is easy, just buy up equvilent stats and knowledges. But when you get to characters like Garaa with the control over sand and Neji with his biyakugan(and all the powers that he commands from it.) it gets much harder to think of the proper way to build them.


So I am asking for you and your expertise to :help: me out here.

Thank you all.
La Rose

PS: I have managed to watch every episode made so far and both movies as and I am a real big fan of the show.:thumbup: (expecially of Rock Lee)

[The Rose]

For Garaa's Desert coffin I was thinking of something like a "martial Grab it ranged attached to it and Limitation representing the need for sand." But that was just a thought.

And for Someone like Sasuke maybe a VPP with Cosmic on it and large enough so he can place any power in there that he has the 'chakra' to use. Also slap on a few limitations to show that he has to observe the ability also that he must be using the sharingan to learn it and anything else that might be right.


La Rose

[Wolfe-Chan]

Hello My Hero Elite.


I was really board last night and it started to puzzel me. How would you best buy/make the abilities showcased on Naruto? For certain characters like Sakura it is easy, just buy up equvilent stats and knowledges. But when you get to characters like Garaa with the control over sand and Neji with his biyakugan(and all the powers that he commands from it.) it gets much harder to think of the proper way to build them.

PS: I have managed to watch every episode made so far and both movies as and I am a real big fan of the show.:thumbup: (expecially of Rock Lee)

Well there is no "Proper way" to build any power is more personal preference really. For example I would buy most ninjutsu as a multipower and create an appropriate taijutsu. Then the weapons they use. Maybe a few special Ninja related combat maneuvers specifically for a Naruto Campaign.

Alot of the fancy stuff they do with the weapons you can just make a talent or even a weapon proficiency that you might have to buy to learn the technique.

And with the Multipower for creating Ninjutsu powers you could use multi slots for often used powers and ultras for powers that are stronger and not as used often. If you baugh Sasuke's learned powers in a mutipower you could buy them as ultras and they would be cheep to buy new ones.

Well that is how I see it but there are lots of ways to do things. VPP's could be a good way to do a few types as well depends on how much leeway you want to give your players. do not think you would need cosmic on his VPP tho just say Ninjutsu powers that sort of takes in a lot and if you wanted you could add a few more points on for the wide range of powers that seems to include but I think +2 is a bit much. THe special effect will always be Ninjutsu. And I think even Sasuke would have to make a skill roll maybe a Ninjutsu skill role to change his VPP.

Wolfe-Chan

[The Rose]

Alright.

I realize there are many ways to build differant powers and it really just fall onto the player for personal taste. What I was namely asking was how you all build some of the powers they exibit on the show. No need to worry weather or not it breaks power caps or what have you just what do you think makes the most sense watching them.

How do you all think Neji's or 'worf boy'(sorry his name eludes me at the moment) or anyone else there. Just choice a character you really like, assuming you watch, and have fun with it. I was just curious how other people view there abilities and how 'They would right it up.

La Rose


Also one that has really been confusing me is the Biyukugan for Neji. The SFX is the ability to observer in 360 dregrees all around himself(with one small exception) out to I think 10 meters at all times and can use it to search out into unbelievable distances with spot on accuracy. That is One power that is a little confusing to me.

[MorpheousXO]

Honestly, byakugan would be somewhat simple. Buy Detect Chakra, put it in sight category, and then you'd add 360 degree vision, and a buttload of telescopic to it. You'd probably need to add a limitation that says only while byakugan is active (possibly -0). Then you'd link his chakra drain to byakugan, along with any other powers he uses with it (kaiten? damn, been too long since I've watched those). As for the weakness... well, it's so small, but it could be a side effect, perhaps, or another limitation that says when aiming for one specific hit location (HL 1 for example) target does not gain whatever bonuses to defense you buy linked to byakugan. Oh yeah, and they have to be "behind" the byakuganka (:rolleyes:).

Well, that's how I'd do it. Actually, I wrote up a lot of jutsu based off of my friend frankto's Naruto d20 (lots and lots of jutsu there). They're all ranked into D, C, B, A, S.

As for Gaara's sand control... considdering it's shukaku that gives it too him, I think that it would be grounds for a VPP. Sharingan could possibly be a vpp, but much more limited I'd think than gaara's. Other than that... umm... not sure what else I could recomend at the moment.

As you might be able to see, I love Naruto as well... though I despise the durned fillers (over a year! :weep:). They just need to continue with the manga story-line because they can't write a good storyline if their lives depended on it (ok, Hinata and Naruto in the hospital was hilarious...). Leave the storytelling to Kishimotosama. Ok, rant off... so sorry. :drink:

[The Rose]

Naruto and Hinata in the hospital? Maybe you are reffering to the Manga. I have seen the episodes to 192(witch I thought was as high as they go till Wednesday, maybe I am mistaken.) and I don't remember a Naruto and Hinata episode where they are both in the hospital, although I am greatly intriqued!:D

Also I don't remeber Neji syphing off chakra just stopping its flow though the body.


La Rose.

PS just incase you don't know them by the Number 192 is where Naruto and Ino have to help the princess with her arranged marrage. And 193 I think(from the previews) is going to be Rock Lee and Naruto's big fight.

[MorpheousXO]

the hospital scene was early in the filler arc, where naruto pops down from the ceiling inches away from hinata's face. It's also the one where he see's her "naked" (sillouhetted [sp] against the waterfall) and then the next day mentions he saw a super cute girl, and never realizes that it was her. The bug hunt cycle.

And I highly highly recomend the manga, much much better than the current series, and sakura's cuter to boot! :eek:

[MorpheousXO]

Oh yeah, and the filler has bored me so much that I haven't been keeping up on the show. The last episode I saw was the one before akamaru goes... whatever it is that happens (don't say anything, I'll watch it eventually). That really is how much I dislike the filler, to me it's made naruto boring, partially because I know all the cool stuff that's going to happen after Naruto trains with ero-sennin for 2 and a half years. This filler is just so hokey and pointless with no overarching storyline that I find it boring. BRING ON AKATSUKI!!!!

[MorpheousXO]

Oh, and if you want I'll post the jutsu I've converted thus far. they're all in text docs, as I didn't have HD at the time, so the costs might be off as I had to use a calculator.

Just have ninjutsu and genjutsu, no taijutsu, but that can be done either in the same fashion or as Martial Arts, depending on preference.

Maybe sometime I'll input them all into HD and revise them to boot, I have a bit more experience with HERO now, some effects might be better done differently (there's alot of jutsu that are basically the same except for SFX).

[Scion Zane]

really big multi power !

I like the show and it gave ma a lot of idaes for my cheractor in NSG samuri game. I play a ninja of shadow dragon. Awsome game Nobu Naga erra, can you say Bokimonu running around.

[The Rose]

that would be cool if you could post them here. As far as the Manga I just don't have access to them. Other than Shonen Jump I don't know where I can read them. I kinda like the the Filler. It can be very Cute and Funny. But I can't wait to see what happens to Sasuke in the Series.


Ohh by the way, Rock Lee is my favorite character.

[The Rose]

WOW I have just found the Manga online.


YEAH!!!

I Don't know where exactly I am in the series(as far as how the manga transfers into the show but I think I can figure it out.) Granted it will never stop me from watching the show when it comes out. Also If anyone would like to watch the show in its orriginal Japanese with subtitles, I can show you where to find it. Also it is current in the sense that it is made as the shows come out. So This Fridays episode will be what episode aired the wednesday before in japan.

La Rose.

[Thia Halmades]

Few thoughts.

The Sharingan is a very straightforward mimic VPP - the user can only gain new slots if he sees a manuever in action. Some manuevers still can't be duplicated (Hoku's Ice Mirrors, the Sharingan Eye itself, and so on - heritage powers). Once he sees the manuever, the user simply spends the END and activates it normally. Kakashi has a separate power in that he can mildly hypnotize people with his as well. But that's another story.

Taijutsu: Don't make the mistake of making them "just" martial manuevers, although you can do that, there are Taijutus moves which qualify as powers or require other special effects as well. Those are important. But you can do MANY of them as straight MA from the book.

Bigger, badder abilities require Extra Time (Gestures, Throughout) and likely Incantation. Since everything costs Chakra (aka END) you have to determine if you're going to allow END Reserves of not.

Gaara's Sand isn't all that hard - it's a matter of what makes the most sense. If he can do instant crazy with it as the moment requires, then yes - it's a VPP. If he pulls the same group of tricks out of his phylactery every time, it's probably an MP. If he every once in a while goes all crazy, then it's a Power Tricks roll to achieve a specific SFX. See "Ultimate Speedster" for notes on Speedster Tricks to get an idea of what I mean.

Most Jutsu also require an Activation Roll. Jutsu's with durations may cost END only to activate. There are a lot of powers in that game - it'll take a while to model them all. But if I can help, I'd be happy too.

[The Rose]

Also something I was thinking was that the chakra isn't always plane stamina. Although usually if your out of chakra your stamina is burnt too, but not always. Sasuke makes hint of that against the three rain ninja durring the second part of the chunnin exams. So buying your Chakra as a power reserve and just having all powers that pull from chakra only use the end reserve and all other 'normal' attacks; ie taijutsu, pull from your normal End. So characters like Garaa have immense ER; others like Rock Lee, have Giant end; and Naruto would have both.


But that is just How I understood it.

La Rose

[MorpheousXO]

Actually, I was thinking of making a chakra control skill that you had to roll, and depending on how well you roll, you'd convert End into Chakra each time you need to use a jutsu. Just need to find the right balance on that.

I get all my naruto needs from narutofan.com.

I have to go to work now, or else I'd look up where episode 136 is in the manga so you could start at the time skip... well, actually kakashi gaiden first, then time skip.

[UltraRob]

I make this comment as someone who has only seen a handful of episodes, but it seems to me that Naruto characters would be using an End Reserve to power their special abilities. Specifically, an End Reserve which recovers slowly enough that they can't just keep whipping off attacks without quickly running out of End. If you want them to mostly focus on their martial arts and only use their special abilities sparingly, then have the ER recover every 5 minutes, if you want them only used at the most crucial times, then make it once per hour.

It's been my experience that with ER's, the REC is actually more important than the END itself in moderating the effect it will have on the game. I generally limit the ER's in my WuXia games to 5xEGO and the ER's REC to EGO/5, but you may have other limits in mind. (ie someone with EGO:10 will have a max ER of END:50 and REC of 2.) Since Naruto characters seem rather strong willed, this seems appropriate. If you want higher powered games, then max it at EGOx10 and EGO/2 accordingly.

Rob

Rob

[MorpheousXO]

It's hard to say. My Chakra Control and converting END to Chakra comes from the in-anime/manga explanation for how chakra works. Which basically is that you convert stamina into chakra, and how well you do it depends on how good you are at chakra control. The explanation goes on to examples of Sasuke, Sakura, and Naruto, where sakura is the best at chakra control, so spends the least amount of Stamina to create her Bunshins, while Sasuke wastes a little bit, and naruto uses a ton of stamina and gets a half dead bunshin.

later jiraiyasama talks to naruto about it, but tells him not to worry about his chakra control because he has soooooooooooooooo much stamina that he can waste as much as he needs for his effects without worry.

Now for a side not, I'll get those jutsu up. Note that some things are going to be missing from the Ninjutsu. Notably rasengan and medical jutsu. The reasoning is that those are different from Ninjutsu, and thus will use Chakra Control for their RSR. Medical jutsu might be able to be argued for being included in Ninjutsu, but Rasengan is most certainly Chakra control. Body altering effects (water walking, tree walking, tsunade's ungodly strength) are also chakra control.

[MorpheousXO]

Well, here are all of the jutsu that I've done thus far. Have fun!

Oops, well, apparently I'd only STARTED on the Genjutsu, so there's only 3 in there. Well, maybe I'll get to work on this again some day if there's interest.

[The Rose]

Well, here are all of the jutsu that I've done thus far. Have fun!

Oops, well, apparently I'd only STARTED on the Genjutsu, so there's only 3 in there. Well, maybe I'll get to work on this again some day if there's interest.

Nice!! That was good work. Thank you.


Hmm if it wasn't for the fact that only one other player in my normal group likes naruto I would have to run a Naruto parody game.:(

La Rose.

[Scion Zane]

water prison entagle 50points 5d6 Def 5, Takes no dammage+1/2,75pts, on hand must be in contact with water prision -1/2,gestures-1/4,Rskill-1/4, 15pts

Sory I liked this affect hehe

The ice mirroers myght be a little tougher to do

[MorpheousXO]

Hmm, actually might not be. I don't have ultimate speedster, but it sounds like the speed zone might be the appropriate trick for this pony. The only problem would be figuring out how to rationalize sasuke starting to catch Haku.

Though remember that haku's ice abilities are a Bloodline Limit, and thus should be rare, and depending on the campaign, only owned by npc's, in which case fudging is acceptable. Probably shouldn't use it on the pc's though, they'll get pissed cause they can't do anything (unless one of them is a jinchuuriki :eek: ), thus maybe only ally npcs?

In any case, um... ran out of gas, dunno what I was gonna say. :drink:

[Zed-F]

FYI, there is a Naruto-like campaign being run on Hero Central. It's called the Hidden Leaf Village (HLV). It might be worthwhile to check it out.

[MorpheousXO]

Konoha Gakure!!!!!!11!11!one!! (sorry :rolleyes: )

[UltraRob]

In honor of the debut of the "new" Naruto Shippuuden (Hurricane) anime (which is really the old one continued with a jump forward in time), I thought I'd post the link to the Wikipedia entry on Jutsu, which literally contains writeups for every Jutsu (funky weird ninja power) used in the anime and manga! Hundreds of them! Be warned though, some of them are probably too nasty for a lot of campaigns.

Your chance to terrify your players is HERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jutsu_%28Naruto%29)!

Enjoy!
Rob

[MorpheousXO]

SWEET!

And yes, Shippuuden deserves much adoration, if nothing else because it marks the end of the horrendous filler. Now then I'm just waiting to see what the Rasengan Shuriken looks like in all its' animated glory. :king:

[katal3]

http://www.herocentral.net/campaignInformation.htm?campaignId=421889
Linkage to the Naruto game being run on HERO Central. If you want a good idea of what we did, just check out the characters page. Mine is Naizen Keiichi.

Anyway, the reason for all the fillers was that the anime caught up with the Manga more quickly then expected, so because they ran out of plot, they've been doing filler while they wait for the manga to get sufficiently ahead.

[MorpheousXO]

Anyway, the reason for all the fillers was that the anime caught up with the Manga more quickly then expected, so because they ran out of plot, they've been doing filler while they wait for the manga to get sufficiently ahead.

Yes, I know this, but the fact is that they didn't have to wait nearly close to as long as they did. Assuming they went at the original pace of around 2-3 chapters of manga per episode, around 6 or so month ago they could ahve picked up again and NEVER caught up for all intents and purposes. And actually it seems like they're being a little slow with the current shippuuden (they really drew out the bells). In any case, that is why I hated the fillers so much, they were entirely unnecisary for a good deal of recent time.

[UltraRob]

http://www.herocentral.net/campaignInformation.htm?campaignId=421889
Linkage to the Naruto game being run on HERO Central. If you want a good idea of what we did, just check out the characters page. Mine is Naizen Keiichi.


Yeah, I was looking at your campaign just last week. I'm thinking of doing a new Naruto campaign myself (not online), and have been debating how to handle the Jutsu. My current line of thinking is doing them as a VPP, with the characters being limited to ones they know from their personal list and having to use one of the three skills: Taijutsu, Genjutsu and Ninjutsu to actually use the Jutsu.

I felt this would allow them to learn new ones fairly quickly, and reflect the large variety of minor Jutsu that the Naruto characters would normally have they don't mention much. (ie using Chakra to boost movement, accuracy, and other more skills-oriented Jutsu.)

The only trick with Naruto I thought of is keeping them from constantly using Jutsu since the Naruto characters actually only use them rarely outside of combat. I've considered making Jutsu simply cost Long-Term END, using End Reserves and even Charges, but haven't picked one yet.

edit!

Oh, and one other thing I came across in my Naruto research, I noticed nobody seems to have mentioned that Naruto has the elemental strength-weakness system in effect. (It's not mentioned much in the comic, but it IS there.) Not sure whether to model it or not. To quote Wikipedia:

Depending on the ratio in which physical and spiritual energy is mixed, different types of chakra can be formed. Elemental chakra is the most common product of this, and is used to perform elemental jutsu. The five elemental natures are earth, fire, lightning, water, and wind. Most ninja have a natural affinity to one type of chakra, but have the capacity to create elemental chakra apart from their own affinity. Each element is both stronger and weaker than another. The order is fire, wind, lightning, earth, and water, with each being weaker than the previous and stronger than the next. Water loops back into fire. Additionally, elemental techniques can be countered by techniques of the same element, provided the technique being countered is of equal or lesser power.



Rob

[MorpheousXO]

Yeah, the chakra element explanation is relatively recent in the manga, and we almost got an explanation for how Shikamaru and Chouji's jutsu work.

Also, you might want to considdering adding a fourth skill called Chakra Control for those jutsu that aren't typically involved with the other types, namely things like water walking, wall walking, super strength, healing, and even rasengan.

Another good way for them to get alot of jutsu easily is to use a cost divider, like 3 or 5. The VPP to me seems a little powerful, and generally fits with Sharingan better, though I'd also model Gaara's sand with it since it's being given to him by that nasty little demon inside him, though you could just do that with typical jutsu and just say he learned it from shukaku.

[psychoticbarber]

So buying your Chakra as a power reserve and just having all powers that pull from chakra only use the end reserve and all other 'normal' attacks; ie taijutsu, pull from your normal End. So characters like Garaa have immense ER; others like Rock Lee, have Giant end; and Naruto would have both.
La Rose

I began to try this this morning, but I ran into one difficulty: END reserves are very cheap, point-wise. At one character point per ten endurance, a character can easily pull off a hundred or more endurance with little cost to the character. Looking at the standard endurance cost per power, if we assume a maximum REC of 5 on the END reserve, it would take a very long time for anybody to run out of Chakra.

I would instead buy Chakra points as Characteristics with the Limitation "Only for Ninjutsu/Genjutsu, not linked to Phyiscal END", and apply the Character's natural REC to it post-segment 12. The idea put forward on the HLV game for having a Chakra Control Skill Roll, in which a small failure costs you more of your Chakra points, would work well with this system.