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name_tamer
Aug 18th, '06, 06:39 AM
Both in the 25th edition reprint of Champions, and in Evil Unleashed, Icicle is replaced by "Snowblind." Same art; nearly the same powers and characteristics; different backstory.
Why?:think:
Lord Liaden
Aug 18th, '06, 08:33 AM
When Hero Games published the Champions genre book, they believed they had the rights to the character of Icicle. That turned out to not be the case, or at least to be in dispute.
IIRC the other claimant is Dennis Malonee's comic company, Heroic Publishing, which also has rights to some of the other characters used in early Champions publications.
FWIW I think that "Snowblind" is a (deliberate groan inducer) cooler name.
name_tamer
Aug 18th, '06, 08:49 AM
Interesting. Thanks for the information.
I also like the name "Snowblind" better, but I'm nostalgic for Icicle.
AmadanNaBriona
Aug 18th, '06, 10:53 AM
But at least wityh the name Snowblind, she comes with her own theme song, by Styx, no less :thumbup:
Kirby
Oct 3rd, '06, 10:40 AM
Both in the 25th edition reprint of Champions, and in Evil Unleashed, Icicle is replaced by "Snowblind." Same art; nearly the same powers and characteristics; different backstory.Since I don't have the $100 to shell out for the 25th version, could you tell me which costume she's in? Is it the FREd Mr. Freeze-like one (skin-tight parka, with ruffles around the waist) or the BBB skin-tight one where she's sliding on ice?
And, without plagarizing, can someone summarize what her new background is?
ghost-angel
Oct 3rd, '06, 10:44 AM
Since I don't have the $100 to shell out for the 25th version, could you tell me which costume she's in? Is it the FREd Mr. Freeze-like one (skin-tight parka, with ruffles around the waist) or the BBB skin-tight one where she's sliding on ice?
And, without plagarizing, can someone summarize what her new background is?
EU p110 - skin tight suit with fur at the ankles, waist, wrists and a cover on her shoulders with a fur lined hood.
It's the same picture used for Icicle, Champions p202.
edit: basic background: scientist mom's experiment goes wrong, gives Snowblind her ice/cold powers.
Enforcer84
Oct 3rd, '06, 10:50 AM
Ace Frehley:
It's so hard to feel right baby
When I'm travelin' around and you're far behind
Guy, I wish I could see my lady, girl, I hope you don't mind, 'cos
I'm snowblind, I can't see a thing, I'm snowblind, I don't wanna sing
I'm snowblind, need a familiar face, I'm snowblind, think I'm lost in space
Lookin' out my window, sometimes I wonder
Am I ever gonna get to where I'm gonna go home
Maybe tomorrow, maybe next summer, girl, I just don't know, 'cos
I'm snowblind, I can't see a thing, I'm snowblind, I don't wanna sing
I'm snowblind, need a familiar face, I'm snowblind, think I'm lost in space
Movin' around, I get in trouble, when I'm feelin' so low and out of my mind
Babe, I don't wanna burst your bubble, girl, you know the reason why, 'cos
I'm snowblind, I can't see a thing, I'm snowblind, I don't wanna sing
I'm snowblind, need a familiar face, I'm snowblind, think I'm lost in space
Enforcer84
Oct 3rd, '06, 10:51 AM
Styx:
Mirror, mirror on the wall
The face youve shown me scares me so
I thought that I could call your bluff
But now the lines are clear enough
Lifes not pretty even though
Ive tried so hard to make it so
Mornings are such cold distress
How did I ever get into this mess
Im snowblind, cant live without you
So fine I just cant get away
Now Im snowblind, snowblind, snowblind
Harmless and innocent you devil in white
You stole my will without a fight
You filled me with confidence, but you blinded my eyes
You tricked me with visions of paradise
Now I realize im
Snowblind, cant live without you
So fine I just cant get away
Now Im snowblind, snowblind, snowblind
Mirror, mirror I confess
I cant escape this emptiness
No more reason to pretend
Here comes that same old feeling again
Snowblind, cant live without you
So fine I just cant get away
Wont you throw me a lifeline
Im going down for the third time
Im snowblind, and I cant get away
Enforcer84
Oct 3rd, '06, 10:52 AM
Black Sabbath:
What you get and what you see
Things that dont come easily
Feeling happy in my vein
Icicles within my brain
(cocain)
Something blowing in my head
Winters ice, it soon will spread
Death would freeze my very soul
Makes me happy, makes me cold
My eyes are blind but I can see
The snowflakes glisten on the tree
The sun no longer sets me free
I feel theres no place freezing me
Let the winter sun shine on
Let me feel the frost of dawn
Fill my dreams with flakes of snow
Soon Ill feel the chilling glow
Dont you think I know what Im doing
Dont tell me that its doing me wrong
Youre the one whos really a loser
This is where I feel I belong
Crystal world with winter flowers
Turns my day to frozen hours
Lying snowblind in the sun
Will my ice age ever come?
Enforcer84
Oct 3rd, '06, 10:54 AM
yeah..its a cool name.
Lord Liaden
Oct 3rd, '06, 10:55 AM
Pity all those songs were written before Snowblind was born, so she probably hasn't heard any of them. :p
Enforcer84
Oct 3rd, '06, 10:56 AM
I'm sure a wise guy older hero or villain (maybe foxbat) has seranaded her with one of them...
Evil Steve
Oct 3rd, '06, 12:16 PM
I'm sure a wise guy older hero or villain (maybe foxbat) has seranaded her with one of them...
Yeah, probably Foxbat, if it was a polka medley of all three.
Captain Obvious
Oct 3rd, '06, 01:21 PM
I'm sure a wise guy older hero or villain (maybe foxbat) has seranaded her with one of them...
EWW! He's all old and gross!
Kirby
Oct 3rd, '06, 04:05 PM
Ace Frehley:
Styx:
Black Sabbath:
When criminals in this world appear
And break the laws that they should fear
And frighten all who see or hear
The cry goes up both far and near
For Underdog! Underdog! Underdog! Underdog!
Speed of lightning, roar of thunder
Fighting all who rob or plunder
Underdog. Underdog!
When in this world the headlines read
Of those whose hearts are filled with greed
Who rob and steal from those who need
To right this wrong with blinding speed
Goes Underdog! Underdog! Underdog! Underdog!
Speed of lightning, roar of thunder
Fighting all who rob or plunder
Underdog. Underdog!
Heh, sorry, the mood struck me. :D
teh bunneh
Oct 4th, '06, 05:41 AM
When criminals in this world appear
And break the laws that they should fear
And frighten all who see or hear
The cry goes up both far and near
For Underdog! Underdog! Underdog! Underdog!
Speed of lightning, roar of thunder
Fighting all who rob or plunder
Underdog. Underdog!
When in this world the headlines read
Of those whose hearts are filled with greed
Who rob and steal from those who need
To right this wrong with blinding speed
Goes Underdog! Underdog! Underdog! Underdog!
Speed of lightning, roar of thunder
Fighting all who rob or plunder
Underdog. Underdog!
The Butthole Surfers does an awesome cover of that. :thumbup:
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