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Enforcer84
Jun 19th, '03, 11:42 PM
okay, I know that there isn't a Watchers of the Dragon for 5e yet, and that many of us don't even use the CU, but who are the top 10 martial artists
(in terms of "reputation" and respect from thier peers) in your games?

Mine: (Many are Original)
1. Jade Tiger (from WoTD)
2. Dragon Master
3. Grand Mantis (former PC)
4. Night Walker (Home made Villain)
5. Rose Dragon (NPC Heroine)
6. Green Dragon
7. Mongoose
8. Songbird (former PC)
9. Bella Donna (Home Made Villain)
10. Cheshire Cat

So far, I haven't really built a whole lot of martial artists for my champions world...

Brick
Jun 20th, '03, 12:21 AM
I am using the "official" CU as campaign background, adding characters from the "old" books if I think that they are appropriate and they fit the feeling of my group. None of the PCs are among the top ten martial artists (yet), also none of my home-brewed villains. My list would include the following names:
1. Jade Tiger
2. Andres Panthanatos (from Justice, Not Law)
3. Nightwind
4. Jade Phoenix
5. Xiu Kwan (Lin Kuei assassin from WotD)
6. Green Dragon
From here on, I really wouldn't want to continue the list, because in my opinion, after Green Dragon, the power level of martial artists is appropriately the same. It would always be a very close match, I think.
One other thing: I have only included characters whose primary attack forms are martial arts. That is why I have not included Nighthawk from the Champions (although I think that he is inferior to the characters mentioned above. He is good, but not good enough for the guys above.), for example.

Enforcer84
Jun 21st, '03, 12:31 AM
Ah, I had forgotten our friends from the Yeng Tao temple...

Hermit
Jun 21st, '03, 12:40 AM
Interesting, I never thought about this before, but now maybe I'll have to form a list for my own game world.

If we're including Weapon oriented Martial Arts, then an NPC name of "Kensai" might be in the top three of my own personal CU.

Bob Dog
Jun 21st, '03, 12:47 AM
Captain Beatdown could take all of dem guys, easy. :D

Enforcer84
Jun 21st, '03, 12:54 AM
I have a stats geek streak in me a mile wide. I like to know who's generally considered the best at everything

The Strongest Bricks
The Smartest Geniuses
The Best Martial Artists

etc. Ad Nauseum.

Lord Liaden
Jun 21st, '03, 01:11 AM
Quite a bit of duplication of other people's selections:

1) Jade Tiger ("world's greatest martial artist" is how he's defined in Watchers of the Dragon)
2) Lung Hung (from VOICE of Doom)
3) Seeker (the WotD version - NPC solo hero)
4) Scarlet Samurai (briefly described in the VIPER sourcebook)
5) Nightwind
6) Jade Phoenix
7) Xiu Kwan
8) Scorpio (upgraded from Zodiac Conspiracy)
9) Green Dragon (WotD version)
10) Ace (from To Serve and Protect)

Brick
Jun 21st, '03, 01:16 AM
The strongest bricks (again, only characters who are classic stereotypes):

1. Grond
2. Ripper (with active STR Enhancement)
3. Python (according to CKQ on par with Grond)
4. Durak
5. Ogre (the new and tougher version from CKQ)

And would someone please blast Bulldozer unconscious? ... Thank you.:D