Installing HDV3 Problem

[astroman]

Running Windows XP
Have installed Java 5 and pass the on-line test before downloading HDV3
Download HDV3setup.zip
Run it with the JAVA program

All that happens is that a DOS? Command window flashs up on the screen too fast for me to see any message in it and then disappears.

HDV3 is not installed. :(

Help please!

[Dale A. Ward]

Did you try changing the .ZIP extension to .JAR ?

[astroman]

Can you please explain a little bit more what you mean by the .zip extension to .jar

The file that i have is called this:

HDv3Setup.zip

Thanks,

Dean

[Teflon Billy]

Can you please explain a little bit more what you mean by the .zip extension to .jar

The file that i have is called this:

HDv3Setup.zip

Thanks,

DeanRight click on the file, choose rename and rename it HDv3Setup.jar

Double click on the newly named file.

TB

[ghost-angel]

On the download page it explains you should not be downloading a ZIP file but a JAR file. IE is trying to rename it for you and thus has prevented you from using your program correctly (or at all really).

Either change the name or redownload the file and make sure that IE is not associating it with WinZIP or similar.

[Dale A. Ward]

Damn...

You guys mean I was right?!? :eek:

Honestly... I was just pulling that one outta my hat!! :rolleyes:

[astroman]

OK Guys, I renamed the file. I have checked that .jar files are associated with the java program. I have doubled clicked to run it and explicitly opened the hdv3setup.jar file with the java program. I still just get a black dos command type window flash onto the screen very briefly, too fast for me to see what is going on, there is some text in there. Nothing else happens however I try to run it.

Strangely, the .jar file is still shown with a winzip icon and is called a win zip file type when I look at its properties. I wonder if this is the root of my problems but I am not sure how to change it. I have gone into control panel, folders, file types and made sure that .JAR files are java executables but this has not changed the file type of HDv3setup.jar away from winzip, even after reboot?

I need a little more help here.

Thanks in advance.

Dean

[astroman]

OK Guys, I renamed the file. I have checked that .jar files are associated with the java program. I have doubled clicked to run it and explicitly opened the hdv3setup.jar file with the java program. I still just get a black dos command type window flash onto the screen very briefly, too fast for me to see what is going on, there is some text in there. Nothing else happens however I try to run it.

Strangely, the .jar file is still shown with a winzip icon and is called a win zip file type when I look at its properties. I wonder if this is the root of my problems but I am not sure how to change it. I have gone into control panel, folders, file types and made sure that .JAR files are java executables but this has not changed the file type of HDv3setup.jar away from winzip, even after reboot?

I need a little more help here.

Thanks in advance.

Dean

Alright, the winzip file type was NOT the problem. I made windows show me all file extensions and my file was actually called hdv3setup.jar.zip ! Don't you just love windows 'protecting' the user. Anyway, got rid of the .zip and it is now a JAR file and java executaable. However, running it still just flashes up the command box as described above. I haven't somehow got the wrong file for my system, have I?

Dean

[astroman]

OK, by running this thing 50 million times and watching the box that flashes up like a strobe effect I have sort of reproduced the error message that is reporting below. Note, it may not be 100% correct.


Exception in thread 'main' java lang NoClass Def Found erros 'then it lists the setup file with full directory path'

[ghost-angel]

Make sure you're running the latest version of Java. I had some issues with the build right before the current Java build on some windows machines myself. And that was the error I got.

[astroman]

Make sure you're running the latest version of Java. I had some issues with the build right before the current Java build on some windows machines myself. And that was the error I got.

Yep, got the lastest version of Java, installed it right before downlaoding HDV3 to pass the on-line test. Even tried udating jave but it tells me that I have the latest version running!

My computer is networked. Is this causing the problem? I run it with the Java installed on my PC.

Dean

[Simon]

What is the size (in bytes) of the HDv3Setup.jar file?

[Simon]

Also, open a command prompt (Start -> Run... -> cmd) and type "java -version"

Post the output of that command here.

[astroman]

Size of HDV3setup.jar is 8,855 KB. I downloaded it 3 times just in case something had been missed. No dice.

The java -version command yields

1.5.0_09
2 runtime Environment, standard edition build 1.5.0_09-b03
Java Hot spot client VM (build 1.5.0_09-b03, mixed mode, sharing)

Hope that helps!?

Dean

[Simon]

Open a command prompt (Start -> Run.. -> cmd).

cd to the directory that holds your HDv3Setup.jar file (frex: cd c:\Documents and Settings\astroman\Desktop)

type "java -jar HDv3Setup.jar"

Post the output of that command here.

[astroman]

Using the Command window to run the jar file thus

java HDV3Setup.jar

I can see the full error that it gives

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError HDV3Setup/jar

Is it expecting a directory which is not there?

Dean

[Simon]

Also, I requested the size in BYTES of the file. The size of the original setup file (on the server) is 9,066,557 bytes.

[Simon]

Using the Command window to run the jar file thus

java HDV3Setup.jar

I can see the full error that it gives

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError HDV3Setup/jar

Is it expecting a directory which is not there?

Dean
Please follow the directions I gave you above. "java -jar HDv3Setup.jar"

[astroman]

:o OK, 'java -jar HDV3Setup.jar' worked!

The install process chgged away, got it to put an icon on my desktop.

However, it would then not run properly, back to a command window that would flash up and disappear.

However, going to the directory and typing

java -jar HDv3.jar

gets it to run. Does my Java not 'know' about jar files properly?

Dean

ANYWAY THANX A LOT!

[Simon]

Sounds like you've manually associated JAR files on your system with the wrong application (likely javaws rather than javaw).

There's a Run.bat file in your install directory which will launch the app for you, if you need, but you're likely better off figuring out what you did on your system and correcting it.