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The Mad GM
Dec 9th, '06, 05:26 AM
Found this link on Wired News:

http://members.fortunecity.com/kainwind/archive.html

Supposed to be a well researched list of the items Batman has ever pulled from his utility belt.
wcw43921
Dec 9th, '06, 02:14 PM
It certainly seems like the site has everything. However--



Nerve Gas Ampules (6+): name as long as your arm, developed by military during a war, concentrates powerful stimulant to right hemisphere of brain, strong dose will kill from fear in 15 seconds, Batman's will make them relive their least favorite nightmare for 30 min


I don't remember this from The Dark Knight Returns. It sounds more like something the Scarecrow would have.
ShadowWraithe
Dec 9th, '06, 05:00 PM
If I remember correctly, in the Batman TV series with Adam West, he even had a live goldfish in one episode.
Brandi
Dec 9th, '06, 07:53 PM
I don't remember this from The Dark Knight Returns. It sounds more like something the Scarecrow would have.

Yeah, it's in there. He uses it to send Two-Face's guys into catatonia before disarming the bomb on the helicopter.
Mister E
Dec 9th, '06, 09:05 PM
Belt Buckle: reflects sunlight off his ?highly polished? buckle to explode a vat of chemicals.

As a little kid (7ish?), the Adam West show became unwatchable to me because of this incident.
Shaft
Dec 9th, '06, 09:33 PM
As a little kid (7ish?), the Adam West show became unwatchable to me because of this incident.

The Adam West show needed to borrow Cato when they crossed over with the Green Hornet and then ask Bruce Lee to give their writers a sound thrashing.
McCoy
Dec 10th, '06, 06:16 AM
So who's going to write these up?

Just how big does the Bat Gadget Pool need to be?
SleepyDrug
Dec 10th, '06, 10:44 AM
Batman was also shown to use Scarecrow's toxins in the Tower of Babel storyline.

He had some in the Batcave to be used against Aquaman (should he ever turn evil).
Tim
Dec 10th, '06, 01:16 PM
Most of these could be built for under 30AP and 30 real. A few should only be at the 60 point level.
Mark Rand
Dec 10th, '06, 01:34 PM
Most of these could be built for under 30AP and 30 real. A few should only be at the 60 point level.

I think a multipower, like the one in both Gadgets and Gear and Dark Champions for the gear he always carries and a VPP for the gear he occasionally carries.
Log-Man
Dec 11th, '06, 06:40 AM
It's missing the single greatest BatGadget of all time: The Bat Bean Bag Gun from the Superfriends cartoon!
McCoy
Dec 11th, '06, 07:25 AM
It's also missing that chunk of Kryptonite from the animated Justice League.

"And they say I'm scary." -- Hawkgirl
Kevin Schultz
Dec 11th, '06, 02:09 PM
"Why do you have an ice missile on your plane?"

"Had to freeze the Gotham river once. Long story."
dmcfarland
Dec 11th, '06, 05:24 PM
Batman utility belt should be a at least a 50 pt reserve so the devices and weapons can use the proper special effects. He should have at least a 30 PT vpp for those omni gadgets with the limitation-can only changed back at the batcave.
SleepyDrug
Dec 12th, '06, 01:54 PM
The real Batman has some equipment that is simply higher Active Points than 50 or 30 points.
McCoy
Dec 12th, '06, 03:04 PM
The real Batman has some equipment that is simply higher Active Points than 50 or 30 points.







































The real Batman?
SleepyDrug
Dec 13th, '06, 01:57 PM
The real Batman?

I realize that with some fictional characters, establishing "canon" is difficult. But in this case, we can conclude that the DC series staring Batman are canon.

And many items used by Batman in the comics exceed 30 or even 50 Active Points.
Shaft
Dec 13th, '06, 03:10 PM
I realize that with some fictional characters, establishing "canon" is difficult. But in this case, we can conclude that the DC series staring Batman are canon.

And many items used by Batman in the comics exceed 30 or even 50 Active Points.

Items: yes. His batcomputer, his bat-vehicles, his bat-cave...

But I can't think of a single item on his belt that I would need more than 50 pts to build, except possibly for area effect gas attacks (and even then, he favours sweeping attacks with multiple gas pellets that seem to only have a 1 hex area) and plastic explosives (which can still be built with penetrating and a small 1 hex area effect). The belt is an accessory that allows him to use his impressive skillset.

Of course, this is just my opinion. And I haven't read every issue of Batman to confirm or deny it.
Vondy
Dec 18th, '06, 02:07 PM
Robin: Holy Heaving Hooters, Batman!
Batman: Stand back, Robin. I'll handle this. Time for the Bat-Cologne...

I build batman style utility belts as VPP Gadget Pools that can be changed as a 0 Phase Action and require a Streetwise Skill Roll ("I have just the thing for this..."). Batman has an obscene streetwise skill roll... especially Adam West Batman.

Almost all of the stuff he pulls can be done with finesse on 30 AP.
Vestnik
Dec 18th, '06, 09:02 PM
Robin: Holy Heaving Hooters, Batman!
Batman: Stand back, Robin. I'll handle this. Time for the Bat-Cologne...

I build batman style utility belts as VPP Gadget Pools that can be changed as a 0 Phase Action and require a Streetwise Skill Roll ("I have just the thing for this..."). Batman has an obscene streetwise skill roll... especially Adam West Batman.


That kind of thing, while cinematic, strains my suspension of disbelief. Maybe it's a fault of mine.
The Mad GM
Dec 19th, '06, 01:29 AM
Batman utility belt should be a at least a 50 pt reserve so the devices and weapons can use the proper special effects. He should have at least a 30 PT vpp for those omni gadgets with the limitation-can only changed back at the batcave.

But to simulate the fact that he always has the appropriate gadget, it should'nt be limited.
Vondy
Dec 19th, '06, 02:06 AM
That kind of thing, while cinematic, strains my suspension of disbelief. Maybe it's a fault of mine.

Batman pretty much strains by suspension of disbeleif.
Vestnik
Dec 19th, '06, 12:50 PM
Batman pretty much strains by suspension of disbeleif.

Come to think of it I actually find it easier to believe in mutants who fire energy beams from their eyes and Norse goda who speak in pseudo-Shakespearian argot than I do in Batman.
McCoy
Dec 19th, '06, 01:01 PM
Batman pretty much strains by suspension of disbeleif.


Come to think of it I actually find it easier to believe in mutants who fire energy beams from their eyes and Norse goda who speak in pseudo-Shakespearian argot than I do in Batman.
Or for that matter, solar powered aliens who can move the planet with their ring finger.

It's all Doc Savage, a character so larger than life theat they had to split him in two. Superman got the Fortress of Solitude, Man of Steel (vs Man of Bronze), and the incredable strength. Batman got the gadgets, fast cars, and intense training.

But the reason Batman is so difficult to stat out is that he is, in his roots, a pulp chjaracter, not a superhero. I'm thempted to give Superman, Batman, and the original Captain Marvel about a 30 point cosmic VPP, "plot immunity." If they need a previously undocumented talent or skill, this is where they pull it out of.