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death tribble
Feb 9th, '07, 05:04 AM
Well as several people have made the request. Note the rules changes those that have seen this before.

Those of you who are regular frequenters of the board will recall that for the last three years I have run threads about getting a character commissioned and drawn by Storn. The first year we did this we also had the prelim drawings.

The first winner was the pic called Cyanide, 2nd winner Sadhana an Asian Indian mystic and last year was Enforcer84's ice brick Glacier. Due to the hacking of Storn's website we can't see these but if there are requests I will try and relink them myself. They are still in Styorn's thread.

I will commission a new piece of art from Storn for probably May and we have until then to come up with ideas for him to do. I have revised the rules from the past three years.

First off people are allowed to contribute ideas BUT there is a snag.
As I am the one paying for it I have to approve it. And Storn has to be willing to draw it. Part of the idea is to challenge the artist with something he hasn't done before or not done in a while.

So some ground restrictions and rules.

(1) The picture has to be for Champions. It is what I play and it is in this forum that the thread is posted.

(2) This year you can have patriots. Although I have British Bulldog on the waiting list and United States Marine Corpse, I am allowing this for one reason. For the last two years the thread where I post my own ideas to have a pic done and then allow a vote on it, patriot heroes have won. So I am making sure nothing like that is up for the vote this year. Therefore I am allowing people to post patriot ideas here instead. Bear in mind I will need some convincing to get a patriotic hero or villain done. It may be easier to get a non-US patriot done as this has a great deal of novelty value for not just Storn and I but everyone else as well. I have over 50 American patriotic or quasi patriotic heroes from pics or that Etherio put up previously.

(3) I am also allowing standard gun users this year as an experiment. However as Storn did a lot of these recently and one for me was a Female Vampire wielding two SMGs you will have to do some description to intrigue me and want me to order this.

(4) Beast motifs. The Lioness is in the pipeline as it came in quite high up in the votes last year. Therefore for this thread you will need to be convincing.

(5) No kid heroes/villains. I like the over 18 crowd and proper heroes such as Superman, Batman, Wonderwoman etc. Anyone even suggesting something akin to the Power R*****S will be summarily subject to a dousing with crude oil. And this year we set you alight as well. And then dance around you invoking Mightybec.

(6) It must be something that I would want to use and something that would interest me. If not then no go ahead.

(7) Storn has certain restrictions of his own both because he will be putting the final product on his web site and has his own likes and dislikes. With this we will heed the former and indulge the latter. No Intellectual Property for example so no pics of Batman, Superman, Spiderman, Captain America.

(8) Idea can be of an agent, a normal superhero/villain or a boss/mastermind

(9) If you want Superman, Batman or Green Lantern analogues there has to be some thing about them visually to make Storn and I want to portray it and pay for it. If you don't post an idea, then it can't get done.

(10) Anyone who has had their idea done previously can apply again. There is no prejudice or bias either for or against you.

I'll post my own ideas a little later on. So post your idea, if I like it then we'll proceed.
You may just have a name and we can bash ideas around about it until we get a full picture.

Of course if you don't like this approach you could always ask Storn yourself.

We have all through the months of March and April to post and reject ideas.
But it may take longer. And usually does.

I would say I was a little disappointed at the number of respondents last year. I am grateful for those that did put forward ideas but we could do with some more people putting forward ideas. I will say publicly that the Mutants and Masterminds crowd have also embraced this idea and gave quite a few ideas that are worth looking at. As the Hero crowd predate them surely we can do better ?

(I checked the dates for the previous threads end April, February and May so now is no problem)

Log-Man
Feb 9th, '07, 05:11 AM
I'll have to think on ideas, but can I request that we see prelim drawings again, too?

death tribble
Feb 9th, '07, 05:48 AM
I'll speak to Storn and give him a bit more money. That should do it.

To give you tasters of what is coming, there is a sonic villain and a sports related already paid for and a Pharoah.
The M+M crowd came up with a hologram character, a person who maifseted samurai armour, battle armour based on magic with greek myth motif,a winged clockwork robot, a bruiser with prison tattooes who has golden eyes that disorient people, a brain eater, Bottom from a Midsummer Night's dream (Jackass head and all), a half man half horse, a robot drone, a Jewish mystic and an Akuma (Japanese demon)

Korvar
Feb 9th, '07, 11:12 AM
A malfunctioning combat robot that's really into Professional Wrestling. Instead of using its transforming weapons platform for guns, it tends to create folding chairs. On occasion it will use its camouflage module to develop black-and-white stripes and punish "rules breakers".

Some kind of plant-based super. By which I mean, actually made of plants.

Similarly, an animated collection of street trash, like a Shadowrun Spirit of Man.

I also thought that something made of computer peripherals and electronics, but the temptation to call it "PC" would be too much :)

RPMiller
Feb 9th, '07, 11:36 AM
A modern day goth that instead of wearing piercings and spikes actually extrudes them from the body and can shoot them like a porcupine. I think a female would be preferred complete with the fishnets, doc martins, spiky colored hair and dark makeup. The spikes can come from anywhere and thus she can change them up with the wardrobe she happens to be wearing that day. As well as have them come out of everywhere forming a spiky armor/damage shield.

I don't have a good name though, as Spike is just too predictable.

Enforcer84
Feb 9th, '07, 09:06 PM
Massive brick. over the top musculature, alien, female.

Hermit
Feb 9th, '07, 09:39 PM
Some kind of plant-based super. By which I mean, actually made of plants.


Adding to that, since Patriots are being considered again, why not that with the Canadian Maple leaf on it somewhere, perhaps a wooden man or woman who has either painted the symbol onto their wooden flesh, or even etched it.

Pattern Ghost
Feb 9th, '07, 10:29 PM
Here are a few. Some may be too bleh, but here they are anyway:

Nightingale: Superpowered nurse, ninteenth century blended with modern motif. She uses an air pressurized injector similar to the one used to give vaccinations to deliver a wide variety of interesting substances, both harmful and helpful. She should be better-looking than the original =).

The Chiropractor: Where do bricks go when they throw their backs out after falling off a skyscraper or stopping an asteroid's collision course with the earth? There's only one guy strong enough to get the job done... The Chiropractor. Unfortunately, he has a sort of Jeckyl and Hyde personality, so sometimes, the spines just come right out....

Dark Matter: This guy knows where all of that unaccounted for mass in the universe has gone. With the ability to channel and internalize "dark matter," our hero can create force fields, platonic solids, and even become super dense himself. With his force field up, he's totally black, though he tends to "leak" bits of matter (think Kirby dots, though, uh not Kirby dots b/c they're just representing positive space.)

Star: A robust, cosmically-powered energy projector. Her uniform is a sleeveless unitard with a large silver/white star in the center of the chest. With her powers activated, the black takes on the appearance of a starfield and the chest embelm pulses with silvery energy.

A Gadgeteer/MA on a budget. Using parts either easily fabricated in a small machine shop (his garage) or modified off the shelf. His helmet is a cast off fighter pilot's helmet, rewired and integrated with a parabolic mic and infrared sight system. His armor is a combination of kevelar and titanium plates sewn in to reinforce key areas (torso, joints, high collar to protect spine/neck, toes, knuckles, and back of hands). His swingline system is based on the mittens tied together with a string through your coat sleaves principle. His back has a housing for a flywheel system, and each forearm mounts a pneumatic grapple-line launcher. When he releases with one hand, the next shot of line is reeled in and fed to his second hand. Unfortunately, the system can get tangled sometimes, and needs to be reeled in by hand. His vest has a number of canister type grenades of various types, all home-made using differnt types of tin (aluminum nowdays) cans, such as Campbell's soup, etc. His belt holds a largish pouch of tools on one side, including a balpeen hammer visible on the outside of the pouch. His weapon of choice (aside from armored fists and feet) is a bolo gun. The bolo gun consists of four tubes about the same size as tennis balls, around a central post which feeds the line between the bolos. After two bolos are fired, two more are advanced, and so on.

A jar in a brain. Bulky brickish-looking guy with an exposed brain, in which is embedded a jar. Although he's drooling, it's obvious that he has both vast physical and psychic power.

Pick any of the psychadelic visions of angels or beasts from Revelations and do a literal interpretation of it.

TheQuestionMan
Feb 9th, '07, 11:21 PM
UNITL Agents and Supers Agents. I have never liked the armor designs for the offical ones, but liked Storn's commisioned ones. What I would like to see is UNTIL Agents and Supers Agents with more Realism in their Uniforms and Weapons. There is no reason UNITL's Arsenal would not inclued Small Arms with Special Ammo.

Also I would like to shoulder patches on their arms indicating which country they represent as well.



Just my 2 Cents... more later

QM

Haven Walkur
Feb 10th, '07, 10:01 AM
Waltzing Matilda -- humanoid lady kangaroo.

Matilda is a heroic Australian Martial Artist: Pugilist...yes, she's a boxing kangaroo! She's the wide-ranging defender of the Outback, complete with bright red boxing gloves on the paws of her front legs (or perhaps on her massive muscular tail or on her powerful back legs instead).

She wears a dark blue vest with the Australian flag on it; small Union Jack in the upper left field and five stars of the Southern Cross in the middle. She does NOT wear a bush hat; that's just too clichéd for an Aussie. On her head, Matilda wears an old-fashioned sports helmet, like the ones worn by Australian rugby players in the early 1900s. Her immense rabbit-like ears stick up from underneath it.

She carries a copy of the Queensberry rules of boxing (and revised rules of the London Prize Ring) in her pouch for ease of reference.

NB: In a fight, an actual roo would brace itself on its tail and rear back to deliver devastating kicks with its hind legs. The front legs aren't really used for roo combat, just for grooming/minor manipulation and support when the animal is moving on all fours.

Kirby
Feb 10th, '07, 10:02 AM
(2) This year you can have patriots. Although I have British Bulldog on the waiting list and United States Marine Corpse....
US Marine Corpse? Is this a dead/undead character? Or did you mean Corps?

(Corps = body of people; Corpse = dead body)

I must admit I don't pay too much attention to the art threads simply because there tend to be so many posts (100+), so I'm not familiar with Storn's style(s) overall (though, I know it's good).

While not really a challenge, a character concept would be a brunette female (brick) who wears an outfit similar to DC's Captain Marvel. The differences: There's no lightning bolt; she's a double D, but the costume is not skintight at all.

The fact that she's my PC Juggernaut in a campaign I'm playing is totally 100% coincidence.

Did I say 100%? I'm sorry, I meant 1.00%.
:D

RPMiller
Feb 10th, '07, 10:14 AM
It is indeed Corpse (dead body). Saw it in another thread being discussed.

Blue
Feb 11th, '07, 07:59 AM
Here's one I just thought up now.

Gilded Lilly: Dressed head to toe in a 1920's era gold gown and jewelry, complete with a wrap around the sides, back and top of her head, through which her golden rivulets of hair cascade, she is the very picture of 1920's hollywood glamour. Her face is concelaed behind a simple gold mask on a stick which she holds up before her... to conceal the mumified near skeletal face beneath.

She's 1920's Movie Star Lilly Grace, who sought out the best people to have herself mummified so she could remain beautiful forever after death. It may have been her attitude that caused these experts to curse her with eternal life without the beauty she coveted so.

I think the hair is a wig (though in a picture you can't tell that naturally), and the mask is a focus which allows her to bewitch men. The face behind the stick-mask is horrific and to her dismay, is an serious PRE attack on anyone who sees it, or perhaps paralyzes them with fear. I expect her to be catty and demanding, and incredibly vain.

I'm thinking of the character Norma Desmond from Sunset Boulevard. (Might be a little too TV Batman)

http://www.thecityreview.com/sunsetb1.gif

Spidey88
Feb 12th, '07, 03:22 AM
Three words:

The Iron Yuppie!


Sort of "Colossus meets Forbes 500" kind of look, complete with armoured briefcase and action cellphone!


"Daaaaddy... Can I be like the Iron Yuppie when I grow up?"

"Well, son - only if you create new paradigms to maximize profits."

death tribble
Feb 12th, '07, 03:55 AM
A modern day goth that instead of wearing piercings and spikes actually extrudes them from the body and can shoot them like a porcupine. I think a female would be preferred complete with the fishnets, doc martins, spiky colored hair and dark makeup. The spikes can come from anywhere and thus she can change them up with the wardrobe she happens to be wearing that day. As well as have them come out of everywhere forming a spiky armor/damage shield.

I don't have a good name though, as Spike is just too predictable.

This is a zombie film where the guy tried to bring his dead girlfriend back to life. I'll see if I can find it and post a link.


US Marine Corpse? Is this a dead/undead character? Or did you mean Corps?

(Corps = body of people; Corpse = dead body)

I must admit I don't pay too much attention to the art threads simply because there tend to be so many posts (100+), so I'm not familiar with Storn's style(s) overall (though, I know it's good).


It is indeed Corpse (dead body). Saw it in another thread being discussed.

It is indeed United States Marine Corpse. It started as a sort of joke for a costume party. You turn up in military uniform but obviously deceased. When someone asks who you are, you say, '1,2,3,4 United States Marine Corpse !'
Form there I built it as an analog to the Old Soldier in Astro City. A marine who died and comes back to fight. Once a marine, always a marine. Except this one can be picky about the orders. He's dead after all. He was on the last Storn vote thread.
The details are as follows.
United States Marine Corpse. A US Marine obviously dead with an AK47 and bayonet. More Revenant than Zombie. Marine olive green combat fatigues circa Vietnam and on


While not really a challenge, a character concept would be a brunette female (brick) who wears an outfit similar to DC's Captain Marvel. The differences: There's no lightning bolt; she's a double D, but the costume is not skintight at all.

The fact that she's my PC Juggernaut in a campaign I'm playing is totally 100% coincidence.
I have no problem with this at all. Other people have tried this why not you ?

death tribble
Feb 14th, '07, 05:06 AM
I need to add a couple of my own suggestions. The first one comes from John Connolly's book The Black Angel.

'The other man was almost as tall as his companion but obscenely fat, his enormous belly hanging pendulously between his thighs. His body appeared out of proportion to his legs, which were short and slightly bowed. The fat man's face was perfectly round and quite pale but his features were very delicate: green eyes enclosed by long dark lashes; a thin unbroken nose; and a long mouth with full dark lips that were almost feminine.
Ay passing resemblence of facial beauty were undone by his chin and the tumorous distended neck in which it lost itself.
He was balding but his remaining hasir was very black and cut short against his skull'

Heavy Metal Angel. The Angel is constructed of metal like a sculpture of a skeleton except the main body particularly around the spine has musculature
It is sharp and pointy rather than being smooth. The wings are very skeletal and are more of a frame, there are no feathers.

This is based again on The Black Angel and a statue in the book but it is organic and the real thing.

death tribble
Feb 14th, '07, 06:05 AM
The other idea carried over from previously is a set of battlesuits from the 40s to modern day. Sort of like Iron Man's suits but for the Champions board.
This will be more than one pic obviously.

Korvar
Feb 14th, '07, 10:37 AM
A giant spider, who recently gained sentience and in fact just wants to be a chef. Has WF: Cooking Implements (Rolling Pin, Spatula, etc) and a dough-based entangle.

Kirby
Feb 14th, '07, 10:52 AM
A giant spider, who recently gained sentience and in fact just wants to be a chef. Has WF: Cooking Implements (Rolling Pin, Spatula, etc) and a dough-based entangle.Now, if he wanted to be in charge, he could call himself Spider-Manager. :hex:

RPMiller
Feb 14th, '07, 11:54 AM
No, no, he is the Iron Arachnid! ;)

BoloOfEarth
Feb 14th, '07, 06:14 PM
The details are as follows.
United States Marine Corpse. A US Marine obviously dead with an AK47 and bayonet. More Revenant than Zombie. Marine olive green combat fatigues circa Vietnam and on

One point: the Marine is more likely to have an M-16 than an AK47.

Checkmate
Feb 14th, '07, 08:51 PM
Are you only looking for "campy" suggestions or will more serious ones be entertained?

A couple of ideas I was thinking about was a Native American with a Magic Bow (energy-like arrows a la the D&D cartoon).

Native American Shaman (comicbook type shaman that does comicbook magic)

Oriental Wizard. Doesn't seem to be a lot of Champion's style Oriental wizards.

Kirby
Feb 14th, '07, 09:09 PM
No, no, he is the Iron Arachnid! ;)Bah! He just gained sentience. He's no Iron Chef candidate...yet. :p

death tribble
Feb 15th, '07, 01:14 AM
One point: the Marine is more likely to have an M-16 than an AK47.

The USM Corpse fought in Vietnam and got fed up with the M16 and so switched to what the enemy were using the AK47. It was more reliable. He continues to use it to this day.

death tribble
Feb 15th, '07, 01:15 AM
Are you only looking for "campy" suggestions or will more serious ones be entertained?

I will entertain any idea. I may dismiss them but if you don't try you don't get.

Kirby
Feb 15th, '07, 04:30 AM
The USM Corpse fought in Vietnam and got fed up with the M16 and so switched to what the enemy were using the AK47. It was more reliable. He continues to use it to this day.Well, that's just silly considering the problems with the M-16 were fixed relatively quickly (and during the Vietnam War). If he were "fed up" with the M-16, he should have become fed up with the AK-47 as well. I mean, there is a reason you can buy an AK-47 on the black market starting around $5. YMMV.

(Though, if it's just a roleplaying schtick, sure; it's just not a logical one.)

telemachus
Feb 15th, '07, 05:38 AM
This might help-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_the_AK-47_and_M16

BobGreenwade
Feb 15th, '07, 07:07 AM
How about a gadgeteer whose stuff is only moderately high-tech? Or who uses low-tech gadgets in creative ways? The gadgets could even be limited to things that are available commercially, or easily fabricated and built, in the real world. ("It's not the technological level that matters, it's what you do with it!")

RPMiller
Feb 15th, '07, 07:50 AM
His name is BLOX. His powers manifest as the colorful familiar children's toy known as Legos. He can create a suit of blocks armor that doesn't cover the joints but due to the bulkiness of the blocks still protects rather well. He can also create block walls to protect those behind it yet it hinders vision, and can also create a few block attacks such as a block ram, or a block ball that "explodes" on contact sending blocks everywhere. He can also create a block cell to hold enemies. He can also build block "hover boards" that allow him to fly.

OR instead of armor he creates a block field. There are hundreds of blocks that float and orbit around him deflecting attacks by suddenly coming together to form a sort of spot armor right at the last minute.

Hyper-Man
Feb 15th, '07, 08:10 AM
Metalminia - Goth Magnetic superheroine (think 'Abby' from NCIS tv show). Large portion of "costume" is metalic in some way (chainmail, studded leather, etc..) so it can be used with her powers in a pinch. Her "Force Field" is literally orbiting bits of metal. As well as sending huge chunks of metal (former cars, lightpoles etc.) at opponents she also can use her powers to form a magnetically enhanced 'club' or 'sword' for HTH combat.

Golden Gauntlet - 'Green Lantern' knockoff with large golden glove that goes nearly to the elbow. Oversized 'Glove' is imobile when worn (wearer's hand movements assist with control of TK). Can be used as a club weapon when out of energy as last resort. Can transform to watch/writstband when not in "battle-mode" for secret id.

Mega-Mistress - Like Kirby's previous 'Marvel Girl' knockoff but with limited energy manipulation multipower that can be used for Flight, enhanced strength (Succor + HA), toughness (FF) and even force blasts from her eyes.

great thread(s) btw DT!

Ockham's Spoon
Feb 15th, '07, 08:40 AM
As a person who just decorates pre-drawn body traces for most of my heroes (which are not nearly as good as Storn's stuff, but they suffice for the artistically challenged), I would put in for a character that is humanoid but does not have a typical physique. My suggestion:

Shard: A guy whose body is the center of a dimensional fracture, making him resemble a person constructed of shattered stained glass loosely held together by some force field so that they appear to be floating in transparent jelly. He is very hard to hurt since the pieces just move aside when hit by most attacks. Shard himself attacks by punching (AP HTH or HKA) or throwing bits of himself (AP EB or RKA) which teleport back to place after the attack. He moves by exploding into a thousand pieces and reconstituting himself someplace else (T-port).

I made this guy for a campaign once but never had a satisfactory picture of him.

death tribble
Feb 15th, '07, 09:05 AM
Well, that's just silly considering the problems with the M-16 were fixed relatively quickly (and during the Vietnam War). If he were "fed up" with the M-16, he should have become fed up with the AK-47 as well. I mean, there is a reason you can buy an AK-47 on the black market starting around $5. YMMV.

(Though, if it's just a roleplaying schtick, sure; it's just not a logical one.)

Introducing logic into roleplaying kills a catgirl. Won't you please think of the catgirls ?

USM Corpse is dead and the dead have their own way of doing things. And the fact the AK47 has 10 more bullets in a standard clip is by the by.

Kirby
Feb 15th, '07, 09:26 AM
Introducing logic into roleplaying kills a catgirl. Won't you please think of the catgirls ?I don't know if my wife will like it, but I'll think of the catgirls. ;)


USM Corpse is dead and the dead have their own way of doing things. And the fact the AK47 has 10 more bullets in a standard clip is by the by.:confused: The AK-47 has a 40 round clip now? That's news to me. (The M-16A2 uses 30 round clips. At least mine did when I was in the Army.)

To keep on topic:
Homewrecker: A female brick who thinks she's "all that." (Bulldozer's ideal woman - she's his ideal man.) She's a female wrestler herself. Not quite as strong as Bulldozer, but she's got stretching!

Korvar
Feb 15th, '07, 09:37 AM
Gun Bunny. Oh, yes, I mean that.

The Toon. In a world full of normals, somehow he's a Toon - think Roger Rabbit. Damage Reduction (flexible body), Regeneration, always on, from death (Only ever "dead" for two minutes), Flight (Only when not looking down), Summon Anvil...

Techno Mage. Uses advanced technology to mimic the effects of magic. They always look cool. I suspect a Storn Techno Mage would look cool squared.

Mage Tech. Uses advanced magic to mimic the effects of technology. Nobody's quite sure why.

R/C. Fights Crime using a bewildering array of radio-controlled cars, airplanes, and helicopters.

The Pensioner. A frail old man, dressed in traditional hero spandex. So irritating when the radioactive meteor only gives you powers when you're already over retirement age...

Kirby
Feb 15th, '07, 11:51 AM
Gun Bunny. Oh, yes, I mean that.

The Toon. In a world full of normals, somehow he's a Toon - think Roger Rabbit. Damage Reduction (flexible body), Regeneration, always on, from death (Only ever "dead" for two minutes), Flight (Only when not looking down), Summon Anvil...
Shouldn't Keyes Bill be the one to offer this up? ;)

freakboy6117
Feb 15th, '07, 02:12 PM
i think this quote from the wiki page telemachus linked sums up why a zombie might like an AK


"One of the bulldozers uncovered the decomposing body of an enemy soldier, complete with AK-47. I happened to be standing right there, looking down into the hole and pulled the AK out of the bog. "Watch this, guys," I said, "and I'll show you how a real infantry weapon works." I pulled the bolt back and fired 30 rounds — the AK could have been cleaned that day rather than buried in glug for a year or so.

RPMiller
Feb 15th, '07, 02:33 PM
And then all the other guys fell down dead... :shock: "I guess we'll have to work on that accuracy thing though." ;)

Kirby
Feb 15th, '07, 02:42 PM
i think this quote from the wiki page telemachus linked sums up why a zombie might like an AK
Now that would make sense.

And then all the other guys fell down dead... :shock: "I guess we'll have to work on that accuracy thing though." ;):lol:

Storn
Feb 17th, '07, 05:15 AM
Well, that's just silly considering the problems with the M-16 were fixed relatively quickly (and during the Vietnam War). If he were "fed up" with the M-16, he should have become fed up with the AK-47 as well. I mean, there is a reason you can buy an AK-47 on the black market starting around $5. YMMV.

(Though, if it's just a roleplaying schtick, sure; it's just not a logical one.)

A good friend of mine was a Lrrp. Half carried Ak-47s because when they ambushed the enemy, it would confuse them. The sound of the M-16 and Ak was very different.

Sound was very important, because these guys were definitely in the deep jungle doing recon. Sometimes visibility was only 10 feet.


The AK-47 has a 40 round clip now? That's news to me. (The M-16A2 uses 30 round clips. At least mine did when I was in the Army.)

The 30 round clip came to the m-16 very, very late in the Viet Nam war. before that it was a 20 round clip. The Ak is a 30 round clip. That accounts for the 10 bullet difference. But the 20 round clip wasn't exactly useless. Marines and Army could hump quite a few more rounds, not only due to the lighter weight of each individual 5.56 compared to the 7.62R round.... but the 20 round clip was *porportionally* lighter than the AK's clip. In a long firefight, those extra clips and rounds can keep save some asses.

Storn
Feb 17th, '07, 05:20 AM
Techno Mage. Uses advanced technology to mimic the effects of magic. They always look cool. I suspect a Storn Techno Mage would look cool squared.

I've done this one. He was called Demagogue by the patron. RDU Neil used him in our game and called him Techno Mage. But in any case, I've done it. Doesn't mean I can't come up with another variation...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Storn/DemagogueloRes.jpg

Korvar
Feb 17th, '07, 07:55 AM
I've done this one. He was called Demagogue by the patron. RDU Neil used him in our game and called him Techno Mage. But in any case, I've done it. Doesn't mean I can't come up with another variation...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Storn/DemagogueloRes.jpg

Well, on the plus side, I think my "cool squared" theory has been proven... :)

Kirby
Feb 17th, '07, 08:37 AM
A good friend of mine was a Lrrp. Half carried Ak-47s because when they ambushed the enemy, it would confuse them. The sound of the M-16 and Ak was very different.Yes, I know this. It's like why some Spec. Warfare units (such as SEALs) will not carry any US weapons on special missions - no traces to lead back to the US. However, that wasn't the point talked about. Superheroes tend to be "themed" characters. A Marine theme would generally carry oh, say, Marine equipment. (Maybe even M-1s or what followed from them.)


The 30 round clip came to the m-16 very, very late in the Viet Nam war. before that it was a 20 round clip.Again, I know this. Having been in the Army, I actually initially trained on the M-16A1 with the 20 round clip in OSUT. Once it was time to qualify, we switched to the M-16A2 and 30 round clip and stayed with that through the rest of OSUT and when I was assigned to the 25th ID(L) I used the 30 round clip. The basic point being the 30 round clip has been in use much longer than the 20 round and using an AK simply for a 30 round clip (+10) didn't make much sense unless there had been a 40 round clip that had come out.

Freakboy at least had a good point to make with a zombie-themed Marine.

Remjin
Feb 17th, '07, 12:06 PM
Yeah, I remember from back in De-Nang... er... wait, that wasn't me, that was the other liar at work... =) I wasn't even an idea in my father's head until after. hehehe.

Anyway, on to the ideas!

Though this is a bit Star Hero, it could fit in with some games... I was thinking about alternate forms of coming to some of the same conclusions, The Jedi having their religion, and another group realizing the same tenets but applying them differently... So I came up with a society that prized its warriors that acted as Defenders of the Realm of a sort. Rather than a weapons tradition, they formed a tradition of mostly protection and a certain machismo about their fighting. Prizing hand to hand combat and the discipline of the mind and body, but to adapt to modern advances and weaponry, discovering the intracacies of the force, etc. etc., they developed force field generating bracers that allowed them to deflect/reflect enemy fire (armor and missile deflection) and protect their charges (force field w/ carried item advantage and force wall) or to bypass the firepower and engage in melee. In essence, its a combination of a martial artist, a jedi, and those cool droids with the force shields that roll around... =) Visually, I'm not really sure how this would come about, varying ideas abound, but I do like the whole baggy pants with tightened calve section (via bindings, armor pieces, whatever), and those belts about the mid-section with multiple straps that cover a large section. Doing the bald monk look could work, perhaps changing for certain idiosyncracies of race and what-not be it human or alien. =)

A techno-girl with a slight exo-skeleton and tight body armor with bracers that extrude carbon-fiber tentacles and swinglines. She's primarily a geek, able to use personal computing technology for hacker skills via a display in her visor that allows her to manipulate graphical representations that seem to float in the air to her. Think Minority Report interface in the air. =)

A Catholic Priest from... oh, that order that looks into miracles and other archaic studies and all that, the mystical ones often referred to in movies... well, whatever that's called. He's an immortal from the cowboy times of the USA, become a catholic priest. This is more Dark Champions, I know, but anyway... he studies the occult and the magical, kind of an Indiana Jones sort of character in the sense of study and his attitude towards getting to his goals. He carries Methuselah, his very overlarge revolver in the Hellboy movie tradition with its muzzle break that forms a cross from the flash (yes, I know this wouldn't actually work as an actual muzzle break) from the venting, and the extractor star is the form of a stylized cross as well since it only holds four over-large rounds.

These are all based around characters I have, but it goes without saying that I like them, thus why I present them for ideas.=)

I've always also liked the idea behind the mega-blaster type characters with little in the way of other powers. Havok comes to mind in particular, but I'd love to see a different rendition of a different sort of fellow. Perhaps an big asian guy, for once, without the usual cues... no pocket protectors and glasses, for example, or big buck teeth. =) I've always liked the whole leather jacket and finger gloves look, long wild hair, and big boots. I know that's not particularly original, I just like it is all. hehe.

Or... considering there was a request, i think, for an animal type... how about a guy integrated with a fox motif? A trickster, perhaps obsessed with swirling patterns like in Uzumaki (sp? Hope i got the word right...). His whole schtick being about the pattern and confusion amongst his foes. Perhaps a guy with illusions or probability manipulation of some sort.

And, for the fun of it, how about a Monkey with Nunchuks? Two greatly amusing things in one package! Yay!

Korvar
Feb 17th, '07, 12:30 PM
A Monkey Pirate with Nunchucks?

Enforcer84
Feb 17th, '07, 12:39 PM
Well, on the plus side, I think my "cool squared" theory has been proven... :)
As the patron inquestion; Agreed.

Kirby
Feb 17th, '07, 04:29 PM
A Monkey Pirate with Nunchucks?
OR, how about...

Wait, wait, don't tell me:
A) A monkey pirate with a bird on his back
B) Spider Monkey (BBB) in a ninja outfit; ninja-to held by the tail with a shuriken in each hand.
C) A pirate and on his back is a Monkey Pirate with Nunchucks

Okay, my silly ideas are out. :celebrate

Enforcer84
Feb 17th, '07, 08:12 PM
a magically based "powered armor" guy.

RPMiller
Feb 17th, '07, 10:27 PM
A different take on the Confessor from Astro City would be interesting to see what Storn could do with the idea. For those that don't know, Confessor was a vampire who wore what was essentially a ninja outfit with a cape and an emblazoned shining cross on the front.

Remjin
Feb 18th, '07, 05:32 AM
A different take on the Confessor from Astro City would be interesting to see what Storn could do with the idea. For those that don't know, Confessor was a vampire who wore what was essentially a ninja outfit with a cape and an emblazoned shining cross on the front.

Wow, an actual vampire ninja... what's the ooint of the ninja thing with the flashlight on his chest? :D

How about an Alchemically based archer? Y'know, magical formulas and stuff.

Or... a cherubic lady of fire? Angelic theme in flames, a young lady with some of that blue fire like in Hellboy.

I have a thing for some of the imagery in that movie, even if not so much the story.

Kirby
Feb 18th, '07, 06:42 AM
Wow, an actual vampire ninja... what's the [point] of the ninja thing with the flashlight on his chest? :DI think he's also a priest, but I may be confusing that with another character. Sadly, it's been a long time since I've read any Astro-City material, and much longer since I read on the Confessor (or whomever I'm thinking about).

Log-Man
Feb 18th, '07, 07:10 AM
Wow, an actual vampire ninja... what's the ooint of the ninja thing with the flashlight on his chest? :D
IIRC, the cross caused him physical pain. He wore it to remind himself of his humanity.

How about an Alchemically based archer? Y'know, magical formulas and stuff.

I'd like to see this, but I'm biased since I have an alchemist archer :D

I also like the idea of the Canadian plant character. "Major Maple Leaf, or whatever ye call yerself..."

RPMiller
Feb 18th, '07, 09:22 AM
I'm not sure if I should use spoiler tags here in case you are planning on ever reading the Astro City comic, but I was able to figure out the mystery pretty quick, I think two issues, so I'm just going to lay it all out for you. Read no further if you want to avoid the spoiler.

Confessor was a Catholic priest helping build a huge cathedral in Astro City in its early years. He was smitten by a young lash and eventually bitten. It turns out she was a vampire. She drained him and left him in a pile of garbage. The next evening he arose as a vampire. He immediately realized that it was his sinful nature that brought him to that point in his life and set himself to repent in what ever manner he could. Years later the first of the superheroes began to appear and he realized that there was a way for him to have human contact once again and also a way to serve. So he donned a costume - all black with a face mask; very ninja like - and on the front of it was a huge cross that caused him pain. The pain was to help him focus and forget about the hunger that he felt. He used his vampiric powers to fight crime and his base of operations was the vestry that had never been consecrated because they walled it up knowing that he was inside. He eventually got a sidekick - Altar Boy - whom he trained and challenged to find out his secret. He did and was quite torn, but in the end saw the good the vampire had done and ended up becoming the new Confessor which he found somewhat humorous as everyone still thought he was a vampire and tried to use holy water, garlic and crosses against him.

Korvar
Feb 18th, '07, 11:15 AM
Great storyline, collected in a TBP, which I believe I have somewhere.

So... I wonder if there's another variation of the vampire priest crimefighter that would be interesting enough for a pic (to get us vaguely back on track).

Remjin
Feb 18th, '07, 01:25 PM
Thanks for the explanations, everyone!

death tribble
Mar 6th, '07, 08:21 AM
This is still ongoing and I am still taking submissions.

Remjin
Mar 6th, '07, 01:54 PM
Okay, well, since we're looking for more suggestions, how about these...

I didn't see a restriction on power armor, and there are so many out there, but I'd like to see something in power armor that's large and in charge. Instead of the usual blaster types, I'd like to see a goliath brick. A big bad with exhaust screaming out of it from the excess heat generated by its high-science generator. Large through the legs and arms but not clunky, something slick with a small head. Something anime-ish, I guess, but minus the missile launchers and giant guns, maybe in a pose like pro-wrestler. Do it up in a blue and gold color scheme or even black and purple. =) I wanna see big feet and hands, overarmored forearms, but smooth is the overall theme rather than clunky.

Or...

A super-slick character, as in slippery, a guy who moves like glass over oil. Slim, sleek, body-tight clothes with a few aerodynamic flares in a pose that makes him look like he's sliding ultra-fast over pavement or the like. A facemask with a slit visor to protect him and help him perceive the movement or at least process it. Perhaps some kind of grapple-line shooters to help him make turns by shooting out a line around a pole to make sharp turns, and traction pieces on him so that he can brake and change directions some. =) Now that I think about it, I kind of want to play this character... hmmm... just neat sfx, I guess.

Korvar
Mar 6th, '07, 02:19 PM
Battlesuit - a chunky set of power armour, that is styled like a tailored 3-piece suit.

RPMiller
Mar 6th, '07, 02:47 PM
Urban Elemental - Made up of concrete, asphalt, steel and glass. Spray painted graffiti here and there. Steam coming out of cracks in its body. A manhole cover. Maybe some weeds or tuffs of grass growing out of some of the cracks as well.

Hyper-Man
Mar 6th, '07, 02:50 PM
Urban Elemental - Made up of concrete, asphalt, steel and glass. Spray painted graffiti here and there. Steam coming out of cracks in its body. A manhole cover. Maybe some weeds or tuffs of grass growing out of some of the cracks as well.

Landfill-Man!

RPMiller
Mar 6th, '07, 03:02 PM
I was imagining something more like a street corner coming to life with part of a building, the street, maybe even a nearby car. So it has "design" and isn't just a pile of stuff.

Remjin
Mar 6th, '07, 06:31 PM
Urban Elemental - Made up of concrete, asphalt, steel and glass. Spray painted graffiti here and there. Steam coming out of cracks in its body. A manhole cover. Maybe some weeds or tuffs of grass growing out of some of the cracks as well.

Something about this manhole cover thing got the mice running the wheels in my head... what about a Captain America variant, but rooted in the city, a vagrant or the like that has become more than just a man. With his superhuman ability, or the rekindled spirit of a gladiator of old, he takes up his mantle... except he has no money or resources, thus he dons the detritus around him. He uses a manhole cover as a shield, perhaps an old pipe as his sword, becoming the defender of the common man... only really cheesy names come to mind, but you get the picture at least. =)

RPMiller
Mar 6th, '07, 06:55 PM
Wasn't there a Robin Williams movie about that guy... Lord... or King something?

Hyper-Man
Mar 6th, '07, 07:57 PM
Wasn't there a Robin Williams movie about that guy... Lord... or King something?

Do you mean The Kingfisher?

Remjin
Mar 6th, '07, 09:22 PM
Wasn't there a Robin Williams movie about that guy... Lord... or King something?

What guy? What post are you referencing? The guy with the manhole cover shield or something earlier?

death tribble
Mar 7th, '07, 01:12 AM
They are talking about the manhole cover guy. And the film is The Fisher King by Terry Gilliam. Also stars Jeff Bridges.

Hyper-Man
Mar 7th, '07, 01:49 AM
They are talking about the manhole cover guy. And the film is The Fisher King by Terry Gilliam. Also stars Jeff Bridges.

Well, I was half way there. :D

RPMiller
Mar 7th, '07, 08:01 AM
Do you mean The Kingfisher?
That's the one! Thanks!

RPMiller
Mar 7th, '07, 08:01 AM
They are talking about the manhole cover guy. And the film is The Fisher King by Terry Gilliam. Also stars Jeff Bridges.
Yes, thanks for the correction, that one!

BobGreenwade
Mar 7th, '07, 08:50 AM
I was imagining something more like a street corner coming to life with part of a building, the street, maybe even a nearby car. So it has "design" and isn't just a pile of stuff.Maybe an entire city block... then you could call him "Blockhead." ;)

Korvar
Mar 7th, '07, 10:21 AM
Mascot - wears a costume similar to the various mascot characters you see at sports events or at Disney.

RPMiller
Mar 7th, '07, 10:35 AM
This is a world of supers, why not just have him be a shape-shifter who is limited to shifting only to mascots. ;)

Korvar
Mar 7th, '07, 10:43 AM
I approve :)

Remjin
Mar 7th, '07, 01:42 PM
I approve :)

I believe it goes more like...

Hi, I'm Korvar, and I approve this message. (sorry, stupid reference to a lot of stupid political commercials)

Korvar
Mar 11th, '07, 11:40 AM
Not sure if this entirely fits the guidelines, but after watching "Hook" again:

Peter Pan, as an adult, as a superhero.

RPMiller
Mar 11th, '07, 02:39 PM
Why wouldn'y you pick Tink instead? ;)

Korvar
Mar 11th, '07, 11:39 PM
I'd assume Tink was a follower :)

death tribble
Mar 12th, '07, 02:36 AM
I hate the movie Hook. It should never have been made. Peter as an adult.
Puhlease !

Log-Man
Mar 12th, '07, 06:24 AM
I hate the movie Hook. It should never have been made. Peter as an adult.
Puhlease !
But Dustin Hoffman as Captain Hook was wonderful.

death tribble
Mar 12th, '07, 10:06 AM
But Dustin Hoffman as Captain Hook was wonderful.

Actually my opinion is negative on this.

Remjin
Mar 12th, '07, 10:14 AM
Hook? Please. Mediocre, semi-interesting. The kids liked it fine, which is all I needed. =) Not really all that well done, pretty generic in a lot of ways, wasn't a huge fan of Robin Williams in it.

The idea of Peter Pan as an adult? That was fine, could have been interesting, but they went down the path heavily travelled and made the story very predictable.

Now, as for character ideas... I'd still like to hear more, as I'm sure Death Tribble would. =)

hooligan x
Mar 12th, '07, 10:33 AM
The worst part of Hook was the portayal of the lost boys. They were fargin BREAKDANCING! Oh, and the rest of the move was the other worst part. My favorite part was the Pepsi I bought from the concession stand.

Kirby
Mar 12th, '07, 10:38 AM
My favorite part was the Pepsi I bought from the concession stand.Pepsi? :eek: No wonder that movie left a bad taste in your mouth. :snicker:

Log-Man
Mar 13th, '07, 06:57 AM
I would merely like to direct you to the 'Grond vs. a Cow' thread. Lot of great ideas there :D

Vestnik
Mar 13th, '07, 07:17 AM
I would merely like to direct you to the 'Grond vs. a Cow' thread. Lot of great ideas there :D

I would like a triumphant cow standing atop a crushed, battered and defeated Grond.

Korvar
Mar 13th, '07, 11:38 AM
A giant armoured mecha cow, if I recall correctly :)

TaxiMan
Mar 13th, '07, 12:23 PM
How about a mountain? Kinda an ultimate "brick". Not a scaled-down thing, but a real, >10 mile square mountain. Normally sessile, under extreme circumstances can move. It normally doesn't need to move however, because it is an incredibly powerful psychic. It's so strong that the power of its mental commands can leak over to affect organic minds to some degree (it normally controls the rock class of minds). It isn't normally a player in human affairs, having only been born 20 years ago as a depository for nuclear waste and much more interested in geologic activity than in the affairs of microscopic bags of mostly water.

Appearance: it's a mountain. Shadows from crags and stony prominences create the appearance of a lopsided face and arms a couple of times a year. A small forest grows up its base.

Myrlyn
Mar 13th, '07, 06:55 PM
Ok, a couple of thoughts for you Tribble:

I'd like to second the request for more VIPER and UNTIL pics, just on principle. :)

However I doubt you'll be commissioning that many pics, so, I'd like to see some Heroes and Villains based on some Lewis Carroll characters (not necessarily to be associated with the Cheshire Cat or the Gryphon). In my campaign, Wonderland is a real alternate dimension, but is also a slightly darker place than is perhaps depicted in the Lewis Carroll tales (though granted some parts of his tales are already dark). Some characters based on these tales might include:

The Jabberwock - A Traditional Brick with the flaming eyes, claws that tear (tunneling/rending), leathery wings. (in my world, this hero's powers derive from a belt made from the hide of the Jabberwock, which was tanned and cured after the beast was beheaded by the nameless hero wielding the vorpal blade). Vulnerable to magic based attacks.

Alice - The adult version of the young Alice that tumbled down the rabbit hole. She faced some very scary creatures in Wonderland, and almost lost her head. These childhood traumas have hardened her and made her into a modern Martial Artist/Monster Hunter type (a la Buffy).

Tweedledee and Tweedledum - This brick pair can drain peoples very intelligence merely by uttering a few warped and twisted phrases/riddles. Both are idiots themselves, and can be easily duped. Prone to combating one another as much as fighting their foes. Pathological fear of crows.

Knave of Hearts (also known as the Jack of Hearts) - A master thief, with a reputation for romantic deviltry (sometimes you just can't beat the archetype).

Queen of Hearts - An insane murderer and psychopath, but with a commanding presence. Wields a rod that can deliver a variety of power blasts. She is accompanied by her card soldiers/henchmen.

The White Rabbit - This speedster is always in a rush to go somewhere, but is often easily confused. Also possesses ability to shrink to a mere fraction of his original size.

The Caterpillar - A bizarre oracle like being, capable of inducing incredible shrinking and growth size changes in others using his mushrooms. Perhaps has some gas based NND attacks from his hookah.

The March Hare - A madcap serial rapist villain. Despicable to the core and loony beyond compare. (Why a rapist? It comes from the roots of the phrase "Mad as a March hare (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_Hare)")

The White Knight - A gadgeteer hero. Appears as an elderly man in archaic styled armor but with a bag full of steam-punk gadgets.

The Mad Hatter - It's just not a party without this insane criminal genius. A mentalist capable of projecting maddening illusions and causing vertigo like effects. Obsessed with time and time themed villains and heroes.

The Mock Turtle - A bull-headed armored hero (Oh wait! Some one already suggested an armored mecha-like cow, right? :)).

The Duchess - A female brick of noble birth but with repugnant features who suffers from a multiple personality disorder causing her to alternate between kindly gestures and vicious, brutish attacks.



Thanks for reading! Looking forward to seeing the final commission Tribble!

Keith

death tribble
Mar 14th, '07, 02:12 AM
I'll comment on Myrlyn's post later.

Another idea from me. A futuristic sort of cowboy either riding a robot horse or a quasi hover bike. So he has the hat and the chaps but his pistol is a laser etc.

death tribble
Mar 14th, '07, 04:53 AM
Myrlyn's post is interesting. As I already have a Jack of Hearts and the Queen I would reject these but the others are worthnconsidering.

As for the mountain from Taximan. No.

BobGreenwade
Mar 14th, '07, 08:00 AM
I'll comment on Myrlyn's post later.

Another idea from me. A futuristic sort of cowboy either riding a robot horse or a quasi hover bike. So he has the hat and the chaps but his pistol is a laser etc.How about a hoverbike with an equine design motif? Also, besides the laser shooter, he could have an energy-lasso. Most of his other stuff could be high-tech-ized too.

For a really twisted thought, you could make him of Thai ancestry.

Log-Man
Mar 14th, '07, 08:29 AM
For a really twisted thought, you could make him of Thai ancestry.
For a really twisted thought, you could make him of Thai food.







Now that's twisted! :thumbup:

death tribble
Mar 14th, '07, 08:46 AM
How about a hoverbike with an equine design motif? Also, besides the laser shooter, he could have an energy-lasso. Most of his other stuff could be high-tech-ized too.

For a really twisted thought, you could make him of Thai ancestry.

Yes I see the first bit. But the Thai bit has lost me completely.

BobGreenwade
Mar 14th, '07, 08:47 AM
Yes I see the first bit. But the Thai bit has lost me completely.That's part of the point. It's probably the least likely ethnicity you'd expect to find in a cowpoke.

Korvar
Mar 14th, '07, 10:56 AM
Genericman! He's like a blank Superhero template, ready to save the world with his Generic Powers!

On the Cowboy theme - Cow Boy! In the same sense that Batman is Bat Man :) Various Cow-themed weapons, Cow-themed costume, the CattleCar, the CowCopter...

There also seems to me that "The Iron Horse" would be a good name for something, but I have no idea what...

Hyper-Man
Mar 14th, '07, 12:46 PM
Genericman! He's like a blank Superhero template, ready to save the world with his Generic Powers!

On the Cowboy theme - Cow Boy! In the same sense that Batman is Bat Man :) Various Cow-themed weapons, Cow-themed costume, the CattleCar, the CowCopter...

There also seems to me that "The Iron Horse" would be a good name for something, but I have no idea what...

Genericman sounds a lot like Captain Everything.

Vestnik
Mar 14th, '07, 01:10 PM
A giant armoured mecha cow, if I recall correctly :)

Nah, that doesn't have the absurdest flair of Grond getting his butt kicked by an actual cow. :D

Come to think of it, the cow in the Bestiary could probably defeat some superheroes. It's got a 15d6 Move Through.

Remjin
Mar 14th, '07, 02:00 PM
Well, as far as the futuristic cowboy goes, I think a good idea for the hoverbike/horse deal would be a hoverbike shaped like a horse. Thus, it might have an equine head and body, even a tail as a counterweight/rudder, and instead of legs would be the hover pods. There would still be a saddle and a bridle, perhaps the "horse" could even be sentient and able to move its head and tail and such. If you wanted to make it sleeker, you could aerodynamically shape the horse bits more, give it a bit of high tech menace like glowing orange/yellow eyes and mouth and such, kind of like one of those crotch-rocket bikes we have nowadays to give it a more modern appeal.

For a pistol, you can't be without the classic smoke effects, so go with a "plasma pistol" or some-such, give it an over-sized revolver look with technological looking changes to its curves. There's no sexier pistol, in my mind, then a revolver in any case. Take away too much from its cues and you'll lose some of its effect.

The laser-lasso idea is too wonder-woman to me, but something more like carbon-fiber extresusions or even like some fancy watchbands in its contruction with an electronic control to it would be neat. To add flare, give it a line of light running through it to show its powered up for whatever reason.

Don't chince on the hat and boots and some spurs, give him the typical holster rig with a modern twist in decoration. Instead of cartridges, plasma/energy pods, and a good buckle with a fancy-schmancy buckle. Break up the shirt with patterned wear for the modernist look, perhaps even utilitarian, add some goggles or some such to his face that goes well with the hat. The hat could have a similar light-line isntead of the hat band.

I think, aesthetically, it might spruce up what could be a very hokey character look.

RPMiller
Mar 14th, '07, 02:39 PM
I already made Captain Generic. He is available in the Hero Vault along with the picture. ;)

death tribble
Mar 15th, '07, 03:16 AM
Right I have culled the following ideas as non starters.
Korvar's Giant Spider, Mascot. Gun Bunny, R/C and Peter Pan as an adult. The Techno Mage has already been done.
RPMIller's Blox.

Everything else is still open for consideration.

BobGreenwade
Mar 15th, '07, 07:00 AM
Right I have culled the following ideas as non starters.
Korvar's Giant Spider, Mascot. Gun Bunny, R/C and Peter Pan as an adult. The Techno Mage has already been done.
RPMIller's Blox.

Everything else is still open for consideration.So the "real-life equipment" gadgeteer is still in play? Cool!

I'm thinking of things like a taser, handgun with rubber bullets, cordless drill, laser pointer, Swiss Army knife, rope & grapple, cell phone, PDA (with wireless Internet connection)... and I'm sure others could come up with more.

Name: The Equipper...?

RPMiller
Mar 15th, '07, 11:57 AM
Yea! Urban Elemental made it! I think that was the first of my ideas that stuck.

Korvar
Mar 18th, '07, 05:38 AM
There have been a lot of power armour ideas that are based off prototype military power suits. It might be interesting to see a suit developed for non-military purposes, like firefighting.

RPMiller
Mar 18th, '07, 10:40 AM
Didn't E84 do a drawing of just such a hero?

Spidey88
Mar 21st, '07, 12:36 AM
Hey, Korvar:

Iron Horse was the name of an NPC I created for a WWII GURPS Supers game that never took off - he was a fairly typical brick in most respects (super-high STR, nigh-invulnerable, etc.), save one: he could run really, really fast. Not Flash fast, but waaay faster than you would expect from a 7'5'', 550 lb slab of muscle.

In other words, he fit the definition of "freight train" from The Ultimate Brick perfectly. As a final touch, I gave him the advantage "Penetrating Call". Basically, a terrifying loud yell that could be heard for miles. I could imagine him chugging across the battlefield at 120 mph, screaming: "WOOO-WOOOOO!"

So there ya go. A use for the name.

Another option: a steamtech-styled set of power armour reminiscent of a locomotive engine?

Remjin
Mar 21st, '07, 02:50 PM
There have been a lot of power armour ideas that are based off prototype military power suits. It might be interesting to see a suit developed for non-military purposes, like firefighting.

I've always liked the idea of non-military based technologies, even if some of it was developed for their use. A good example is in Batman Begins, where they end up using the bridge building car as his batmobile. Or the guy who built armor to withstand bear attacks and is now marketing a military armor set. =)

Also, firefighting as you mentioned or otherwise would be a great basis... and in a sense, could be an allegory to the many societies that implemented farm tools as weapons and the like as well. Has a good basis in historical items, etc.

Heck, even Mechwarrior: Dark Ages (the Clix game) has some of this in it, which makes for some interesting looking mechs... :)

RPMiller
Mar 21st, '07, 05:01 PM
Have you checked out Metal Storm? It has a firefighting component to it. Yet it is an extremely lethal weapon.

Remjin
Mar 21st, '07, 06:51 PM
Have you checked out Metal Storm? It has a firefighting component to it. Yet it is an extremely lethal weapon.

FIREFIGHTING? I've seen the Metal Storm deal but nothing about putting out fires or anything related. Explain it a little? BTW, the whole idea is pretty neat! There was another thread about this somewhere... Dark Champions, possibly...

RPMiller
Mar 21st, '07, 07:15 PM
Unfortunately the Metalstorm site is getting revamped so all the non-military applications are gone so you can check these:
http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/fire02/PDF/f02101.pdf
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2002_April_26/ai_85118172
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/archive/index.php/t-31293.html

There are some graphics that Metalstorm had up on their site showing the apparatus and such, but I couldn't find it anyway.

Supreme Serpent
Mar 22nd, '07, 05:21 AM
The Remnant

Figure floating in mid-air, patchwork of different tattered costumes, with some open spaces between body parts. In the spaces a glowing energy "skeleton" can be made out. One hand noticeably male, one noticeable female, some robotic parts, misc. possible foci. Several unrelated power effects going on at once.

Remnant is all that remains of the (insert hero team name here). Years past, their arch-nemesis managed to kill them with a massive explosion. The collective willpower combined with the team mystic's spirit to give them new "life" as a gestalt being, The Remnant, which thwarted the surprised villain. Today The Remnant mostly lives...somewhere...in seclusion, but will sometimes appear in times of great need.

Each of the parts retains some of the original hero's powers - the eye has vision powers and eyebeams, one arm can use fire, the other is super-strong, etc.

Log-Man
Mar 23rd, '07, 06:38 AM
Each of the parts retains some of the original hero's powers - the eye has vision powers and eyebeams, one arm can use fire, the other is super-strong, etc.
...the breasts defy gravity...


Ok, seriously, this is a very interesting concept. Creepy, but neat. :thumbup:

Korvar
Mar 23rd, '07, 04:15 PM
Galatea. A statue brought to life. Bits of her are missing, so she can clearly be seen to be hollow. Classic brick powers.

Myrlyn
Mar 30th, '07, 12:53 PM
Tribble: Any updates for this contest? Are we close to a winner yet? Just curious. :)

Keith

BobGreenwade
Mar 31st, '07, 01:22 PM
Tribble: Any updates for this contest? Are we close to a winner yet? Just curious. :)Or at least finalists....:)

Myrlyn
May 1st, '07, 10:42 AM
Pssst... Tribble?

Kirby
May 1st, '07, 11:02 AM
Tribble: Any updates for this contest? Are we close to a winner yet? Just curious. :)

Keith
Or at least finalists....:)
Pssst... Tribble?That's The Trouble With Tribbles.



:winkgrin:

BobGreenwade
May 2nd, '07, 07:07 AM
That's The Trouble With Tribbles.



:winkgrin:

Or vice versa.

death tribble
May 8th, '07, 10:27 AM
Give the guy a chance.

He's in France on holiday for the Abyss's sake !

Enforcer84
May 8th, '07, 10:59 AM
Give the guy a chance.

He's in France on holiday for the Abyss's sake !
Sure, take his side.

Remjin
May 8th, '07, 01:26 PM
Give the guy a chance.

He's in France on holiday for the Abyss's sake !

Consider yourself excommunicated... France... of all the places in the world... sheesh... FRANCE!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbdown

:D Hope you're having a lovely holiday. :D

Kirby
May 8th, '07, 02:01 PM
Consider yourself excommunicated... France... of all the places in the world... sheesh... FRANCE!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbdown

:D Hope you're having a lovely holiday. :DWhile it is France, :shudder: perhaps the Tribble is either cheering in the new president or hissing out the old?

:D

Remjin
May 8th, '07, 09:22 PM
While it is France, :shudder: perhaps the Tribble is either cheering in the new president or hissing out the old?

:D

Perhaps... and while I'm ashamed to admit it... I do like to hear french women talk... dunno why, I just do, it just SCREAMS *BLEEP* *BLEEP* in my mind... even if they are telling me to *BLEEP* *BLEEP* or they'll call the police...

(Mental Note: get the wife to learn French!)

Just watched "Lila Says..." and I dunno if the actress in that movie is actually french, but... *sigh* And right up until the end of the movie, where bad things happen and I have my typical excessively angry that crap like that happens thing, I was way intrigued by the story in any case... when I could get my head away from the wanting to slowly tenderize a person into hamburger stage ala Hardigan in Sin City... darnit, that is such a trigger for me... Enraged, 18- onset, 3- cool down... *sigh* I'll shut up now, total tangent, my apologies.

death tribble
May 9th, '07, 07:34 AM
Consider yourself excommunicated... France... of all the places in the world... sheesh... FRANCE!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbdown

:D Hope you're having a lovely holiday. :D

As Mexico or Canada are to you, France, the Netherlands and Spain are to the British


While it is France, :shudder: perhaps the Tribble is either cheering in the new president or hissing out the old?

:D

We are losing Jacques Chirac and Tony Blair at around the same time. And don't blame the French if you don't like Sarkosy. He was educated in America. So any prejudices he picked up are your fault.

I'll trim out some ideas when I get the time. I am not caught up yet.

Kirby
May 9th, '07, 08:30 AM
As Mexico or Canada are [sic] to you, France, the Netherlands and Spain are to the BritishHmm, Mexico: Cheap, illegal labor? Drain on resources? Dumbing down the country? Can't be that country (unless you went for cheap alcohol).
And don't blame the French if you don't like Sarkosy.What part of "cheering in the new president" made you think I didn't like Sarkosy? :stupid:
He was educated in America. So any prejudices he picked up are your fault.I wonder if I should point out how asinine your reasoning is here or just let it slip by?

death tribble
May 9th, '07, 08:35 AM
Hmm, Mexico: Cheap, illegal labor? Drain on resources? Dumbing down the country? Can't be that country (unless you went for cheap alcohol).What part of "cheering in the new president" made you think I didn't like Sarkosy? :stupid:I wonder if I should point out how asinine your reasoning is here or just let it slip by?

What part of Mexico and Canada being your next door neighbours escaped you ? Dummy. I'll let the rest slip as you obviously got out of the wrong side of the bed today.

Remjin
May 9th, '07, 09:42 AM
As a whole, I avoid talking politics and religion in mixed company unless someone insists... mostly because very few people can discuss either civilly, logically, or will even listen to an opposing view. I'd recommend similarly here.

I stated the dislike of the French, so partly my fault, but I did specifically delete any reasons why to cut off any discussion.

Death Tribble has a good thread here, let's not derail it completely and besmirch it.

Myrlyn
May 9th, '07, 12:36 PM
Death Tribble has a good thread here, let's not derail it completely and besmirch it.


Amen Remjin. Which begs the question since Death Tribble is responding again... Do we have a winner yet Tribble? Did you commission the new artwork from Storn?

Keith

Remjin
May 9th, '07, 01:41 PM
Oh... no... a space marine... A SPACE MARINE AVATAR?! I thought I'd gotten away, but it follows me EVERYWHERE!!!!

Sorry, used to work for GW, I have painted for them and on commission, about 23 space marine armies... and hate them, especially since they always get new models, and my beloved Orks hardly ever do.... heck, I hear they're changing all the models AGAIN!!! Just give me some freakin' Ork Bikes!!! Or a decent Trukk!

*sigh* Y'know, I should probably finish looting this Baneblade, so I can make more imperials turn green with sickness...

Kirby
May 9th, '07, 07:56 PM
What part of Mexico and Canada being your next door neighbours escaped you ?Hmm, I suppose when you put:

As Mexico or Canada are to you....I read or as being "representing alternatives" as opposed to and which is "used to connect." I suppose the fault is mine that you don't understand the English language. I guess I should know: Death Is Cranky, Kirby.

As for "next door neighbors", imagine my ire when I discovered the lands of France and Spain shared a border with England, as opposed to a body of water separating them. I guess I should know: Death Is Cranky, Kirby.
Dummy.Ah, the name calling. I guess I should know: Death Is Cranky, Kirby.
I'll let the rest slip as you obviously got out of the wrong side of the bed today.Interesting that you start with being asinine, but accuse me of it. I guess I should know: Death Is Cranky, Kirby.

Now, back to the question you blatantly didn't answer:
And don't blame the French if you don't like Sarkosy. He was educated in America. So any prejudices he picked up are your fault.
What part of "cheering in the new president" made you think I didn't like Sarkosy?If you misspeak, misread or miswrite something, you should have the decency to just state that, instead of becoming pugnacious to deflect your error. Or simply answer the question presented to you. I guess I should know: Death Is Cranky, Kirby.

In my previous title, I wondered if a bug was your problem and in the message suggested you should see a proctologist. Now, with your even ruder response, I'm wondering if the proctologist would find your head?

Without trying to derail the thread any further, I'd like for you to either answer the question I asked or state you misread what I was posting about. Either way, don't be a DICK about it.

EDIT: And yes, I know that I am responding a bit cranky as a result of your antagonistic responses.

phookz
May 9th, '07, 09:06 PM
Can't we all (well, you all, really) just get along? :tsk:

Kirby
May 9th, '07, 09:53 PM
Can't we all (well, you all, really) just get along? :tsk:You'd think we could respond in a more mature manner. But he started it! Did too! :snicker:
FYI it should read "well, you both, really" since it's just between the two of us. "All" would indicate three or more. Just for future reference. ;)I'll consider myself "tsk tsk-ed" though.

Remjin
May 10th, '07, 01:22 PM
Well, at least I know I'm not the only grammar nazi... =)

Hyper-Man
May 10th, '07, 01:43 PM
When Baby Avatars Attack!

Between the two of you and Killer Shrike it seems like an invasion.
:D

Remjin
May 11th, '07, 05:25 AM
but mine is a SMOKING baby!

RPMiller
May 11th, '07, 07:02 AM
And thus the probable leader... GET HIM!

Myrlyn
May 11th, '07, 08:22 PM
since Death Tribble is responding again... Do we have a winner yet Tribble? Did you commission the new artwork from Storn?

Keith

Still waiting for something about the results (and yes, this is my attempt to bring things back to topic).

death tribble
May 14th, '07, 04:33 AM
There is plenty of time and the latest commission is not this one. Not yet anyway. It maybe the June or July one.

death tribble
May 18th, '07, 06:37 AM
Onto the Cull list go all of Korvar's suggestions in this thread as they are too slight or too stupid to make good characters. While I am prepared to tolerate some stick from my Scottish neighbour enough is enough.

Taximan's Mountain and RPMIller's Blox as previously stated are culled.
Enforcer's alien brick as it clashes too much with Glacier his winning entry from last year.
Kirby's PC Juggernaut. Storn has recently done a look alike for me so for this reason and a quasi similarity to Enforcer's suggestion above I am dismissing it.

The rest are still in play. I am attracted to some of Myrlyn's quasi-Wonderland characters and also to the giant robot with no weapons idea.

RPMiller
May 18th, '07, 07:45 AM
The Carpet Bagger! He's a living carpet that carries a bag with him that he uses to trap people in. Within the bag is the dimension that the carpet came from. He can fly, stretch, has 360 degree vision and has some interesting martial art maneuvers such as leg sweeps, rolling a person up inside him and squeezing and snapping one of his corners. The pattern on the carpet appears to be his face, but not always.

Hyper-Man
May 18th, '07, 09:20 AM
The Carpet Bagger! He's a living carpet that carries a bag with him that he uses to trap people in. Within the bag is the dimension that the carpet came from. He can fly, stretch, has 360 degree vision and has some interesting martial art maneuvers such as leg sweeps, rolling a person up inside him and squeezing and snapping one of his corners. The pattern on the carpet appears to be his face, but not always.

Sounds like the answer to the question 'What if Marvel's Cloak did acid?'. :D

Kirby
May 18th, '07, 09:31 AM
Kirby's PC Juggernaut. Storn has recently done a look alike for me so for this reason and a quasi similarity to Enforcer's suggestion above I am dismissing it.Do you by chance have a link to the look alike? I would be interested to see his work done on this, as well as the potential for a future commission request.

Log-Man
May 18th, '07, 09:39 AM
So the Archer/Alchemist is still on the boards then? :thumbup:







Too subtle? :D

Enforcer84
May 18th, '07, 12:13 PM
Modern Day Druidess? Green hair & Leather?

death tribble
May 21st, '07, 04:25 AM
Kirby,

http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=463&page=163

Does the Pharoah remind you of anybody ?

Myrlyn
May 23rd, '07, 11:09 AM
Woohoo! Dark Wonderland is still in the running. :)

BobGreenwade
May 24th, '07, 07:37 AM
Does anybody have the time and inclination to make a list of the ideas submitted so far?

death tribble
May 24th, '07, 08:57 AM
Does anybody have the time and inclination to make a list of the ideas submitted so far?

I have to because I am the one paying for it after all.
Don't expect anything until next week.

Kirby
May 24th, '07, 10:23 AM
Kirby,

http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=463&page=163

Does the Pharoah remind you of anybody ?Cleopatra if she were a red head? :)

Not quite the image I was referring to (since it's been a while and I can't seem to find my post, I may have worded it incorrectly). The female I was describing wore DC's Captain Marvel's outfit (non skin-tight version), but without the lightning bolt. She also has black hair, but that's a minor difference. Though, I may be adding a "belt" of handcuffs seeing as how she's sort of taking over the area of a departed hero who protected a "hoodlum" style crime area. She's needed some cuffs to lock up some baddies when she wanted to track down someone, but couldn't leave the bad guys alone and awake.

Stupid ethics code. ;)

death tribble
May 29th, '07, 01:51 AM
Kirby,

You misunderstood. I said the picture was a look alike. I did not say the picture was a look alike based on the description you sent in.

Enforcer84
May 30th, '07, 12:45 AM
Well, here's another Superteam of mine. A group of mystical/quasi mystical misfits sitting on the sidelines of the Good v Evil grudgematch.

Xombie: Gentleman Zombie. Think well preserved corpse of British nobility just before the Revolutionary War. Dresses well, doesn't seem to be rotting but deathly pale and odd, pupiless eyes

Grunt: Big muscle bound, bald, goatee, mindgem, nicely tailored suit.

Wildthorn: Dryad/Biker Chick hybrid

Devil Woman: Red Skinned, black haired beauty with Suggestive Sorceress robes

The Blade: a ninja trapped in a cursed suit of armor that allows him to summon bladed weapons (or just spikes and blades), something akin to the Shredder I suppose. Can't take of armor.

Mother Russia: A female werebear from the former Soviet Union.

Lon Ra: Antrhopomorphic (but short) Siamese cat, young sphinx lost in the world.

Enforcer84
May 30th, '07, 02:32 PM
Oh and I just made this guy (http://www.herogames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1353353&postcount=211), He's a fey dwarf (sorta, he's stocky) master of the Brazilian martial art Capoiera, and luck based knight errant at large.

death tribble
Jun 4th, '07, 09:29 AM
Here are a few. Some may be too bleh, but here they are anyway:

Nightingale: Superpowered nurse, ninteenth century blended with modern motif. She uses an air pressurized injector similar to the one used to give vaccinations to deliver a wide variety of interesting substances, both harmful and helpful. She should be better-looking than the original =).

The Chiropractor: Where do bricks go when they throw their backs out after falling off a skyscraper or stopping an asteroid's collision course with the earth? There's only one guy strong enough to get the job done... The Chiropractor. Unfortunately, he has a sort of Jeckyl and Hyde personality, so sometimes, the spines just come right out....

Dark Matter: This guy knows where all of that unaccounted for mass in the universe has gone. With the ability to channel and internalize "dark matter," our hero can create force fields, platonic solids, and even become super dense himself. With his force field up, he's totally black, though he tends to "leak" bits of matter (think Kirby dots, though, uh not Kirby dots b/c they're just representing positive space.)

Star: A robust, cosmically-powered energy projector. Her uniform is a sleeveless unitard with a large silver/white star in the center of the chest. With her powers activated, the black takes on the appearance of a starfield and the chest embelm pulses with silvery energy.

A Gadgeteer/MA on a budget. Using parts either easily fabricated in a small machine shop (his garage) or modified off the shelf. His helmet is a cast off fighter pilot's helmet, rewired and integrated with a parabolic mic and infrared sight system. His armor is a combination of kevelar and titanium plates sewn in to reinforce key areas (torso, joints, high collar to protect spine/neck, toes, knuckles, and back of hands). His swingline system is based on the mittens tied together with a string through your coat sleaves principle. His back has a housing for a flywheel system, and each forearm mounts a pneumatic grapple-line launcher. When he releases with one hand, the next shot of line is reeled in and fed to his second hand. Unfortunately, the system can get tangled sometimes, and needs to be reeled in by hand. His vest has a number of canister type grenades of various types, all home-made using differnt types of tin (aluminum nowdays) cans, such as Campbell's soup, etc. His belt holds a largish pouch of tools on one side, including a balpeen hammer visible on the outside of the pouch. His weapon of choice (aside from armored fists and feet) is a bolo gun. The bolo gun consists of four tubes about the same size as tennis balls, around a central post which feeds the line between the bolos. After two bolos are fired, two more are advanced, and so on.

A jar in a brain. Bulky brickish-looking guy with an exposed brain, in which is embedded a jar. Although he's drooling, it's obvious that he has both vast physical and psychic power.

Pick any of the psychadelic visions of angels or beasts from Revelations and do a literal interpretation of it.


Waltzing Matilda -- humanoid lady kangaroo.

Matilda is a heroic Australian Martial Artist: Pugilist...yes, she's a boxing kangaroo! She's the wide-ranging defender of the Outback, complete with bright red boxing gloves on the paws of her front legs (or perhaps on her massive muscular tail or on her powerful back legs instead).

She wears a dark blue vest with the Australian flag on it; small Union Jack in the upper left field and five stars of the Southern Cross in the middle. She does NOT wear a bush hat; that's just too clichéd for an Aussie. On her head, Matilda wears an old-fashioned sports helmet, like the ones worn by Australian rugby players in the early 1900s. Her immense rabbit-like ears stick up from underneath it.

She carries a copy of the Queensberry rules of boxing (and revised rules of the London Prize Ring) in her pouch for ease of reference.

NB: In a fight, an actual roo would brace itself on its tail and rear back to deliver devastating kicks with its hind legs. The front legs aren't really used for roo combat, just for grooming/minor manipulation and support when the animal is moving on all fours.


I need to add a couple of my own suggestions. The first one comes from John Connolly's book The Black Angel.

'The other man was almost as tall as his companion but obscenely fat, his enormous belly hanging pendulously between his thighs. His body appeared out of proportion to his legs, which were short and slightly bowed. The fat man's face was perfectly round and quite pale but his features were very delicate: green eyes enclosed by long dark lashes; a thin unbroken nose; and a long mouth with full dark lips that were almost feminine.
Ay passing resemblence of facial beauty were undone by his chin and the tumorous distended neck in which it lost itself.
He was balding but his remaining hasir was very black and cut short against his skull'

Heavy Metal Angel. The Angel is constructed of metal like a sculpture of a skeleton except the main body particularly around the spine has musculature
It is sharp and pointy rather than being smooth. The wings are very skeletal and are more of a frame, there are no feathers.

This is based again on The Black Angel and a statue in the book but it is organic and the real thing.


The other idea carried over from previously is a set of battlesuits from the 40s to modern day. Sort of like Iron Man's suits but for the Champions board.
This will be more than one pic obviously.


Are you only looking for "campy" suggestions or will more serious ones be entertained?

A couple of ideas I was thinking about was a Native American with a Magic Bow (energy-like arrows a la the D&D cartoon).

Native American Shaman (comicbook type shaman that does comicbook magic)

Oriental Wizard. Doesn't seem to be a lot of Champion's style Oriental wizards.


How about a gadgeteer whose stuff is only moderately high-tech? Or who uses low-tech gadgets in creative ways? The gadgets could even be limited to things that are available commercially, or easily fabricated and built, in the real world. ("It's not the technological level that matters, it's what you do with it!")


Metalminia - Goth Magnetic superheroine (think 'Abby' from NCIS tv show). Large portion of "costume" is metalic in some way (chainmail, studded leather, etc..) so it can be used with her powers in a pinch. Her "Force Field" is literally orbiting bits of metal. As well as sending huge chunks of metal (former cars, lightpoles etc.) at opponents she also can use her powers to form a magnetically enhanced 'club' or 'sword' for HTH combat.

Golden Gauntlet - 'Green Lantern' knockoff with large golden glove that goes nearly to the elbow. Oversized 'Glove' is imobile when worn (wearer's hand movements assist with control of TK). Can be used as a club weapon when out of energy as last resort. Can transform to watch/writstband when not in "battle-mode" for secret id.

Mega-Mistress - Like Kirby's previous 'Marvel Girl' knockoff but with limited energy manipulation multipower that can be used for Flight, enhanced strength (Succor + HA), toughness (FF) and even force blasts from her eyes.

great thread(s) btw DT!


As a person who just decorates pre-drawn body traces for most of my heroes (which are not nearly as good as Storn's stuff, but they suffice for the artistically challenged), I would put in for a character that is humanoid but does not have a typical physique. My suggestion:

Shard: A guy whose body is the center of a dimensional fracture, making him resemble a person constructed of shattered stained glass loosely held together by some force field so that they appear to be floating in transparent jelly. He is very hard to hurt since the pieces just move aside when hit by most attacks. Shard himself attacks by punching (AP HTH or HKA) or throwing bits of himself (AP EB or RKA) which teleport back to place after the attack. He moves by exploding into a thousand pieces and reconstituting himself someplace else (T-port).

I made this guy for a campaign once but never had a satisfactory picture of him.


Though this is a bit Star Hero, it could fit in with some games... I was thinking about alternate forms of coming to some of the same conclusions, The Jedi having their religion, and another group realizing the same tenets but applying them differently... So I came up with a society that prized its warriors that acted as Defenders of the Realm of a sort. Rather than a weapons tradition, they formed a tradition of mostly protection and a certain machismo about their fighting. Prizing hand to hand combat and the discipline of the mind and body, but to adapt to modern advances and weaponry, discovering the intracacies of the force, etc. etc., they developed force field generating bracers that allowed them to deflect/reflect enemy fire (armor and missile deflection) and protect their charges (force field w/ carried item advantage and force wall) or to bypass the firepower and engage in melee. In essence, its a combination of a martial artist, a jedi, and those cool droids with the force shields that roll around... =) Visually, I'm not really sure how this would come about, varying ideas abound, but I do like the whole baggy pants with tightened calve section (via bindings, armor pieces, whatever), and those belts about the mid-section with multiple straps that cover a large section. Doing the bald monk look could work, perhaps changing for certain idiosyncracies of race and what-not be it human or alien. =)

A techno-girl with a slight exo-skeleton and tight body armor with bracers that extrude carbon-fiber tentacles and swinglines. She's primarily a geek, able to use personal computing technology for hacker skills via a display in her visor that allows her to manipulate graphical representations that seem to float in the air to her. Think Minority Report interface in the air. =)

A Catholic Priest from... oh, that order that looks into miracles and other archaic studies and all that, the mystical ones often referred to in movies... well, whatever that's called. He's an immortal from the cowboy times of the USA, become a catholic priest. This is more Dark Champions, I know, but anyway... he studies the occult and the magical, kind of an Indiana Jones sort of character in the sense of study and his attitude towards getting to his goals. He carries Methuselah, his very overlarge revolver in the Hellboy movie tradition with its muzzle break that forms a cross from the flash (yes, I know this wouldn't actually work as an actual muzzle break) from the venting, and the extractor star is the form of a stylized cross as well since it only holds four over-large rounds.

These are all based around characters I have, but it goes without saying that I like them, thus why I present them for ideas.=)

I've always also liked the idea behind the mega-blaster type characters with little in the way of other powers. Havok comes to mind in particular, but I'd love to see a different rendition of a different sort of fellow. Perhaps an big asian guy, for once, without the usual cues... no pocket protectors and glasses, for example, or big buck teeth. =) I've always liked the whole leather jacket and finger gloves look, long wild hair, and big boots. I know that's not particularly original, I just like it is all. hehe.

Or... considering there was a request, i think, for an animal type... how about a guy integrated with a fox motif? A trickster, perhaps obsessed with swirling patterns like in Uzumaki (sp? Hope i got the word right...). His whole schtick being about the pattern and confusion amongst his foes. Perhaps a guy with illusions or probability manipulation of some sort.

And, for the fun of it, how about a Monkey with Nunchuks? Two greatly amusing things in one package! Yay!


I didn't see a restriction on power armor, and there are so many out there, but I'd like to see something in power armor that's large and in charge. Instead of the usual blaster types, I'd like to see a goliath brick. A big bad with exhaust screaming out of it from the excess heat generated by its high-science generator. Large through the legs and arms but not clunky, something slick with a small head. Something anime-ish, I guess, but minus the missile launchers and giant guns, maybe in a pose like pro-wrestler. Do it up in a blue and gold color scheme or even black and purple. =) I wanna see big feet and hands, overarmored forearms, but smooth is the overall theme rather than clunky.

Or...

A super-slick character, as in slippery, a guy who moves like glass over oil. Slim, sleek, body-tight clothes with a few aerodynamic flares in a pose that makes him look like he's sliding ultra-fast over pavement or the like. A facemask with a slit visor to protect him and help him perceive the movement or at least process it. Perhaps some kind of grapple-line shooters to help him make turns by shooting out a line around a pole to make sharp turns, and traction pieces on him so that he can brake and change directions some. =) Now that I think about it, I kind of want to play this character... hmmm... just neat sfx, I guess.


Urban Elemental - Made up of concrete, asphalt, steel and glass. Spray painted graffiti here and there. Steam coming out of cracks in its body. A manhole cover. Maybe some weeds or tuffs of grass growing out of some of the cracks as well.


Ok, a couple of thoughts for you Tribble:

However I doubt you'll be commissioning that many pics, so, I'd like to see some Heroes and Villains based on some Lewis Carroll characters (not necessarily to be associated with the Cheshire Cat or the Gryphon). In my campaign, Wonderland is a real alternate dimension, but is also a slightly darker place than is perhaps depicted in the Lewis Carroll tales (though granted some parts of his tales are already dark). Some characters based on these tales might include:

The Jabberwock - A Traditional Brick with the flaming eyes, claws that tear (tunneling/rending), leathery wings. (in my world, this hero's powers derive from a belt made from the hide of the Jabberwock, which was tanned and cured after the beast was beheaded by the nameless hero wielding the vorpal blade). Vulnerable to magic based attacks.

Alice - The adult version of the young Alice that tumbled down the rabbit hole. She faced some very scary creatures in Wonderland, and almost lost her head. These childhood traumas have hardened her and made her into a modern Martial Artist/Monster Hunter type (a la Buffy).

Tweedledee and Tweedledum - This brick pair can drain peoples very intelligence merely by uttering a few warped and twisted phrases/riddles. Both are idiots themselves, and can be easily duped. Prone to combating one another as much as fighting their foes. Pathological fear of crows.

The White Rabbit - This speedster is always in a rush to go somewhere, but is often easily confused. Also possesses ability to shrink to a mere fraction of his original size.

The Caterpillar - A bizarre oracle like being, capable of inducing incredible shrinking and growth size changes in others using his mushrooms. Perhaps has some gas based NND attacks from his hookah.

The March Hare - A madcap serial rapist villain. Despicable to the core and loony beyond compare. (Why a rapist? It comes from the roots of the phrase "Mad as a March hare (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_Hare)")

The White Knight - A gadgeteer hero. Appears as an elderly man in archaic styled armor but with a bag full of steam-punk gadgets.

The Mad Hatter - It's just not a party without this insane criminal genius. A mentalist capable of projecting maddening illusions and causing vertigo like effects. Obsessed with time and time themed villains and heroes.

The Mock Turtle - A bull-headed armored hero (Oh wait! Some one already suggested an armored mecha-like cow, right? :)).

The Duchess - A female brick of noble birth but with repugnant features who suffers from a multiple personality disorder causing her to alternate between kindly gestures and vicious, brutish attacks.



Another idea from me. A futuristic sort of cowboy either riding a robot horse or a quasi hover bike. So he has the hat and the chaps but his pistol is a laser etc.


The Remnant

Figure floating in mid-air, patchwork of different tattered costumes, with some open spaces between body parts. In the spaces a glowing energy "skeleton" can be made out. One hand noticeably male, one noticeable female, some robotic parts, misc. possible foci. Several unrelated power effects going on at once.

Remnant is all that remains of the (insert hero team name here). Years past, their arch-nemesis managed to kill them with a massive explosion. The collective willpower combined with the team mystic's spirit to give them new "life" as a gestalt being, The Remnant, which thwarted the surprised villain. Today The Remnant mostly lives...somewhere...in seclusion, but will sometimes appear in times of great need.

Each of the parts retains some of the original hero's powers - the eye has vision powers and eyebeams, one arm can use fire, the other is super-strong, etc.


Well, here's another Superteam of mine. A group of mystical/quasi mystical misfits sitting on the sidelines of the Good v Evil grudgematch.

Xombie: Gentleman Zombie. Think well preserved corpse of British nobility just before the Revolutionary War. Dresses well, doesn't seem to be rotting but deathly pale and odd, pupiless eyes

Grunt: Big muscle bound, bald, goatee, mindgem, nicely tailored suit.

Wildthorn: Dryad/Biker Chick hybrid

Devil Woman: Red Skinned, black haired beauty with Suggestive Sorceress robes

The Blade: a ninja trapped in a cursed suit of armor that allows him to summon bladed weapons (or just spikes and blades), something akin to the Shredder I suppose. Can't take of armor.

Mother Russia: A female werebear from the former Soviet Union.

Lon Ra: Antrhopomorphic (but short) Siamese cat, young sphinx lost in the world.

This is to show what is still in the running.

RPMiller
Jun 4th, '07, 01:48 PM
Awe man... Carpet bagger didn't make it. :cry:

Log-Man
Jun 4th, '07, 02:11 PM
This is to show what is still in the running.
Ah, narrowed the list down to 200, eh? :winkgrin:

Enforcer84
Jun 4th, '07, 06:17 PM
Let the Voting begin! Twenty threads of ten choice polls then two threads, then ...*CRACK*

Log-Man
Jun 4th, '07, 06:34 PM
Let the Voting begin! Twenty threads of ten choice polls then two threads, then ...*CRACK*
Dammit... E84 broke the internet.

Again. :rolleyes:

BobGreenwade
Jun 5th, '07, 07:03 AM
It's nice to see that my "walking department store" guy is still in the running. I don't really have a name figured out for him (the idea is the "secondary concept" for my WWTBAS character, The Night Watchman), but maybe something like Shelf-Life would be catchy enough....

death tribble
Jun 5th, '07, 08:52 AM
I spoke to Storn and these are your finalists.

Star: A robust, cosmically-powered energy projector. Her uniform is a sleeveless unitard with a large silver/white star in the center of the chest. With her powers activated, the black takes on the appearance of a starfield and the chest embelm pulses with silvery energy.

The first one comes from John Connolly's book The Black Angel.

'The other man was almost as tall as his companion but obscenely fat, his enormous belly hanging pendulously between his thighs. His body appeared out of proportion to his legs, which were short and slightly bowed. The fat man's face was perfectly round and quite pale but his features were very delicate: green eyes enclosed by long dark lashes; a thin unbroken nose; and a long mouth with full dark lips that were almost feminine.
Ay passing resemblence of facial beauty were undone by his chin and the tumorous distended neck in which it lost itself.
He was balding but his remaining hasir was very black and cut short against his skull'

Heavy Metal Angel. The Angel is constructed of metal like a sculpture of a skeleton except the main body particularly around the spine has musculature
It is sharp and pointy rather than being smooth. The wings are very skeletal and are more of a frame, there are no feathers.

This is based again on The Black Angel and a statue in the book but it is organic and the real thing.

Oriental Wizard. Doesn't seem to be a lot of Champion's style Oriental wizards.

The Remnant

Figure floating in mid-air, patchwork of different tattered costumes, with some open spaces between body parts. In the spaces a glowing energy "skeleton" can be made out. One hand noticeably male, one noticeable female, some robotic parts, misc. possible foci. Several unrelated power effects going on at once.

Remnant is all that remains of the (insert hero team name here). Years past, their arch-nemesis managed to kill them with a massive explosion. The collective willpower combined with the team mystic's spirit to give them new "life" as a gestalt being, The Remnant, which thwarted the surprised villain. Today The Remnant mostly lives...somewhere...in seclusion, but will sometimes appear in times of great need.

Each of the parts retains some of the original hero's powers - the eye has vision powers and eyebeams, one arm can use fire, the other is super-strong, etc.

Myrlyn
Jun 5th, '07, 11:14 AM
Awww shucks, no Lewis Carroll crazies then. Oh well!

Given the remaining choices, I'd like to vote for the Remnant.

Log-Man
Jun 5th, '07, 12:25 PM
I think Remnant offers the most visually appealing opportunities. Remnant. :thumbup:

Remjin
Jun 5th, '07, 12:32 PM
I like this one, cuz the description is good and its just weird...

'The other man was almost as tall as his companion but obscenely fat, his enormous belly hanging pendulously between his thighs. His body appeared out of proportion to his legs, which were short and slightly bowed. The fat man's face was perfectly round and quite pale but his features were very delicate: green eyes enclosed by long dark lashes; a thin unbroken nose; and a long mouth with full dark lips that were almost feminine.
Ay passing resemblence of facial beauty were undone by his chin and the tumorous distended neck in which it lost itself.
He was balding but his remaining hasir was very black and cut short against his skull'

BobGreenwade
Jun 5th, '07, 12:55 PM
I'm also in favor or Remnant.

RPMiller
Jun 5th, '07, 01:18 PM
My vote is for Remnant

Tiree
Jun 5th, '07, 01:23 PM
I like heavy metal angel

Checkmate
Jun 5th, '07, 01:34 PM
Even though the Oriental Wizard was my idea, I'm gonna have to vote for Remnant.

death tribble
Jun 6th, '07, 04:06 AM
Some of you think this is a democracy. It is actually upto Storn and I to decide.
I did like the Alice characters and will certainly keep these in mind for next year at the latest.

Log-Man
Jun 6th, '07, 05:11 AM
Some of you think this is a democracy. It is actually upto Storn and I to decide.
I did like the Alice characters and will certainly keep these in mind for next year at the latest.
I vote to make this a democracy.

BobGreenwade
Jun 6th, '07, 07:04 AM
Some of you think this is a democracy. It is actually upto Storn and I to decide.Well, that won't stop us from at least voicing our opinions! :)

death tribble
Jun 6th, '07, 07:54 AM
I will have the Vote thread starting next month and voting can be done on that for the picture in August to be done.

So people can voice their opinions here. I, however, am just evil and mean spirited enough to ignore them and dance away laughing.

Myrlyn
Jun 6th, '07, 08:04 AM
I will have the Vote thread starting next month and voting can be done on that for the picture in August to be done.

So people can voice their opinions here. I, however, am just evil and mean spirited enough to ignore them and dance away laughing.

Just remember to make a posting here when you start that vote thread Tribble, so those of us who have subscriptiosn no where to sound off. :thumbup:

In the meantime, let me know if you might be interested in collaborating on the Lewis Carroll commissions as a separate thing. I'm interested in beefing up that character line for my own campaign (assuming I get to run it some day), and I'd be willing to help contribute to some of the artwork funding (especially for my own character, Jabberwock that appears in one campaign that my friends and I have run before and may start up again).

Keith

BobGreenwade
Jun 6th, '07, 08:29 AM
I will have the Vote thread starting next month and voting can be done on that for the picture in August to be done.

So people can voice their opinions here. I, however, am just evil and mean spirited enough to ignore them and dance away laughing.That, of course, is your right. :D

You may even feel free to ignore us completely, and have Storn draw a picture of Grond in a pink tutu.

death tribble
Jun 6th, '07, 09:40 AM
You may even feel free to ignore us completely, and have Storn draw a picture of Grond in a pink tutu.

I can't do that !

I have to have Steve's permission as Grond is an Intellectual Property character of Hero Games. I don't think he would let me get away with it. Grond that is.

death tribble
Jun 6th, '07, 09:41 AM
In the meantime, let me know if you might be interested in collaborating on the Lewis Carroll commissions as a separate thing. I'm interested in beefing up that character line for my own campaign (assuming I get to run it some day), and I'd be willing to help contribute to some of the artwork funding (especially for my own character, Jabberwock that appears in one campaign that my friends and I have run before and may start up again).

Keith

Now that is an idea and a half. Hmmm.

death tribble
Jun 8th, '07, 10:00 AM
A modern day goth that instead of wearing piercings and spikes actually extrudes them from the body and can shoot them like a porcupine. I think a female would be preferred complete with the fishnets, doc martins, spiky colored hair and dark makeup. The spikes can come from anywhere and thus she can change them up with the wardrobe she happens to be wearing that day. As well as have them come out of everywhere forming a spiky armor/damage shield.

I don't have a good name though, as Spike is just too predictable.

You will recall I said I thought this was ina Zombie film ?
Well take a look.
I have never seen the film but do remember the image. And this is a decade and half ago. Way to go Tribble memory.

RPMiller
Jun 8th, '07, 11:38 AM
Eeek! While certainly in spirit of what I was thinking, but I was thinking more organic and they don't stay sticking out all the time. :shock:

Remjin
Jun 8th, '07, 01:09 PM
You will recall I said I thought this was ina Zombie film ?
Well take a look.
I have never seen the film but do remember the image. And this is a decade and half ago. Way to go Tribble memory.

I've seen the film, and its vaguely amusing. If you like zombie films, its worth watching, but it is somewhat heavy on the gore, depending on how much gore you consider drilling holes into people's skulls and pulling entire spines nearly out of zombies and having them still walk around...

death tribble
Jun 12th, '07, 04:12 AM
This is going on hiatus for a while. The commission has to be paid for and given to Storn to do. However he has three of mine in a queue, one of which is a similar job from Mutants and Masterminds that I should have done last year. So this one is July's commission and after that I will keep you posted.

Myrlyn
Jun 12th, '07, 06:03 AM
Great, thanks for the update Tribble!