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Mightybec
Feb 19th, '03, 05:15 PM
Ok guys, in your opinion, who is the dorkiest hero or villian in comic history, and why?
Mightybec
Rage
Feb 19th, '03, 06:38 PM
AHh the old MORT of the month...
I would have to say Eye man.. with eyes on his hands.
Patriot
Feb 19th, '03, 07:10 PM
.....FoxBat!!!!!
(I dive for cover)
Law Dog
Feb 19th, '03, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by Rage
AHh the old MORT of the month...
I would have to say Eye man.. with eyes on his hands.
You mean the Ten-Eyed Man from Batman and Man-Bat appearances in the 70's. Thankfully, he met his fate in the pages of Crisis on Infinite Earths.
His optic nerves literally ran through his finger tips. The police were so afraid that this ability would help him escape, they kept him in his cell with his hands locked in a lightless box. Now how the heck would this help you escape? If anything, it would impede you since his finger tips were incredibly sensitive to pressure, just like your eyes. He certainly couldn't pick the cell lock. Other than using this power to get a cheap thrill in area where the woman wear short skirts and sit (like in restaurant booths), I can't see much of a positive to it.
Law Dog
Feb 19th, '03, 07:24 PM
Oh, and here is a great collection of lame folk.
http://www.sean-walsh.com/comixlibrary/lame.htm
Of special note is the really lame southwest villains of Gila, Butte and Cactus (I think Sunstroke was with these clowns). As a resident of the Southwest, I really want to kick the ass of the clown that came up with these refugees from the Tick. Pretty trite. I can see the fool who created these thinking "Duh, oh boy, I'll make some villains that are instantly recognized as being from the southwest. Never been there, so I'll make them so stupidly stereotypical, I'll have time to get back to my pudding before I get in my PJ's for beddy bye."
Well, pal, here are some New York villains that you can use.
The Mugger. He mugs people all the time. Hundreds of people every day.
Taxi Cab Hack. He steals from people who mistakenly get in his cab.
Smells-Like-Urine Subway Dweller. His name says it all.
The Pigeon. The newest aerial threat. Drops his special pigeon bomb on your car.
Hey, look at me, I can write for Marvel.
Agent X
Feb 19th, '03, 07:25 PM
The Shark from Green Lantern was just... stupid.
Kara Zor-El
Feb 19th, '03, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by Mightybec
Ok guys, in your opinion, who is the dorkiest hero or villian in comic history, and why?
Mightybec
Jim Shooter, the Death of Phoenix. :mad:
BNakagawa
Feb 19th, '03, 08:06 PM
The Red Nine. Some yahoo from the sticks who came to the big apple to beat up Spiderman in order to make a name for himself.
Why god, why?
Agent X
Feb 19th, '03, 08:16 PM
The Rocket Racer
The Human Fly
Razorback
the Thin Man
The Beaver
Enforcer84
Feb 19th, '03, 08:39 PM
Batman.
Mightybec
Feb 19th, '03, 08:41 PM
Does anyone remember Styx? Him and and a guy called Stone faught Spidey one time. This guy basically got off when he touched things and killed them. Anyways, a bag of grain fell on him somehow, and because he killed millions of grain seeds, he basically messed his pants and just sat there in extasy while Spidey captured him. If your main power incapacitates you when it works, you need to find a new job.
Mightybec
Agent X
Feb 19th, '03, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Mightybec
Does anyone remember Styx? Him and and a guy called Stone faught Spidey one time. This guy basically got off when he touched things and killed them. Anyways, a bag of grain fell on him somehow, and because he killed millions of grain seeds, he basically messed his pants and just sat there in extasy while Spidey captured him. If your main power incapacitates you when it works, you need to find a new job.
Mightybec Not to mention that it's just a crude concept.
Superskrull
Feb 20th, '03, 03:16 AM
Hmm, well, sharing pain IS supposed to lessen it. So here's a few off the top of my head...
Wendy, Marvin & Wonder Dog -you know who they are, but what we never knew was "Why, God, Why?"
The Wonder Twins & their damn monkey - if your pet routinely outthinks you, it's time to get back on the short bus
Little Mermaid -anyone remember the Global Guardians? Appeared in Superfriends, and drug into continuity despite their lameassitude, she struck me as the worst of the lot all told and I'm glad she's dead...
The Red Bee- 40's mystery geek who had trained bees in his belt buckle...
The Space Canine Patrol - all I'm saying is they needed to be put down, Old Yeller style.
Arm-Fall-Off-Lad -acutally thought this qualified him for something other than the short bus.
Mr Jigsaw- creepy wierd yet lame power to fall apart like a human jigsaw
The Ringmaster & the Circus of Crime -when a 3 ft tall anthropomorphic duck kicks your collective rear ends, it's time to eat a bullet...
that black guy from Amazing Spider-man who had freakin' rabbit powers, thankfully he's only been seen once...
unlike
Humbug -has sonic weapons based on insect noises, well, noises other than -crunch- that is...
The Vamp/Animus -the first supervillain with sex change power I ever saw. I really didn't ever need to see that...
Toyman & The Prankster- for your own sakes, stop fighting the most powerful alien on the planet
The Turtle- a Flash villain
-Superskrull weeps in horror-
Starfox- WTF? Why is he still breathing? Once more, Thanos has betrayed Death...
Speedball- no, Ditko, this is most assuredly NOT the next Spider-man...
Captain Ultra- yeah, I know, he was supposed to be funny. He's not.
Harley Quinn -I loved her in B:TAS, get her the hell out of the regular comics...
Comet Man- given 'comet' powers by a retarded psycho alien, in the late 80's, well after they should have known better...
I feel my bile rising and my rage building, so I'm gonna leave you with one last loser before I stop...
The Generic Hero -star of the Generic Comic Book, this moron actually got superpowers from his collection of glow-in-the-dark junk...
at first I thought I'd need a sharp stick, to stop me from seeing this stuff, but I'm gonna need a power drill too, 'cause the bad thoughts won't leave my skull...
Agent X
Feb 20th, '03, 04:05 AM
Condorman
Birdman
Superskrull
Feb 20th, '03, 04:12 AM
Originally posted by Agent X
Condorman
Birdman
Oh no you don't. If you're using them, I'm gonna have to invoke some of my cinematic agents of soulcrushing madness;
Batwoman & Robot Ninja.
Trust me, they're all about pain and I have copies of each.
MisterVimes
Feb 20th, '03, 07:15 AM
Monseiur Mallah - A French Gorilla who was in the closet over his love for a disembodied brain.. You can't make stuff like this up.
tenebre
Feb 20th, '03, 07:23 AM
The Panda (fromenemies 2 i think)
MisterVimes
Feb 20th, '03, 09:19 AM
The Captain Marvel created by M.F. Enterprises.
<img src="http://shazam.imginc.com/media/images/cast/captainmarvel_split.gif">
Roger Winkle, professor of archaeology at Dartmoor College and a robot, has but to utter the word "Split" and his various body parts separate.
Roger is sent to Earth to promote and preserve peace. When Roger becomes Captain Marvel by saying "Split", his various body parts dis-joint yet are under his mental control. When Captain Marvel says "Xam" the various body parts re-link. As Captain Marvel, Roger wears a uniform that includes jet boots and an amulet which energizes him. If his amulet is removed, he becomes immoblie after a short while. His other weakness is that he cannot control his other body parts if glass comes between them and his head.
I am NOT making this up
Law Dog
Feb 20th, '03, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by MisterVimes
The Captain Marvel created by M.F. Enterprises.
<img src="http://shazam.imginc.com/media/images/cast/captainmarvel_split.gif">
Roger Winkle, professor of archaeology at Dartmoor College and a robot, has but to utter the word "Split" and his various body parts separate.
Roger is sent to Earth to promote and preserve peace. When Roger becomes Captain Marvel by saying "Split", his various body parts dis-joint yet are under his mental control. When Captain Marvel says "Xam" the various body parts re-link. As Captain Marvel, Roger wears a uniform that includes jet boots and an amulet which energizes him. If his amulet is removed, he becomes immoblie after a short while. His other weakness is that he cannot control his other body parts if glass comes between them and his head.
I am NOT making this up
I can attest to that. I have issues 1 and 3.
Some of his cheesy rogues gallery included Tinyman, Elasticman, the Bat (who became The Ray later) and Atom Jaw.
SuperPheemy
Feb 20th, '03, 02:30 PM
So, you scoop his head up in a fishbowl and he becomes a desk-ornament for your favorite supervillain.
Some of the silliest supers come from the Legion. Specifically the Legion of Substitue Heroes. (Note, I believe many of these heroes had been redesigned to be useful).
Ferro-Lad = Could turn his body to Iron, but once he did that he was unable to move.
Polar Boy = Typical cold-based powers, just looked stupid in his fur-trimmed outfit.
Spectra-Lad = Could generate rainbow beams of light. Non-damaging, altogether not disablingly bright, rainbow beams of light. Black costume with white trim and a rainbow on his chest.
the original Wildfire concept = He could fly, was fast, strong and could fight ok. But his most potent superpower manifested when he lifted the visor on his outfit. He was a being composed of Thermonuclear Energy, and when he lifted his visor, that energy was released in an uncontrolled blast. The damage done to the target was complete, but all that was left of Wildfire was a deflated, empty suit.
Toyman was on the extreme end of stupid, until the storyline where he killed Cat Grant's boy, and about a dozen other children. Then he became very disturbing and creepy.
Evil Steve
Feb 20th, '03, 02:35 PM
How about The Ultra-Killer! A steel verion of the Geiger alien, but with the Preadator's weapons.
He fought (and killed) The Squad!
This box of tools had their team logo emblazoned in wall height letters on the inside of their base.
I'd give you more, but my friend hacked chopped up the only issue with an axe.
Superskrull
Feb 20th, '03, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by SuperPheemy
[BFerro-Lad = Could turn his body to Iron, but once he did that he was unable to move.
[/B]
No, that was Stone Boy. Ferro Lad turned to some iron derivative and was strong enough to stun Superboy. He was one of the few pure bricks in DC.
Stone Boy, OTOH, was from a world where they developed the ability to hibernate through the hostile parts of the year by turning to stone rather than developing spaceships to go somewhere better. Essentially, he'd run into battle with the Subs and take a nap. :D Wisely, he turned down the full Legion membership he once earned to stay with his Substitute Hero buddies. After all, what would they do without their combination battering ram/doorstop?
Superskrull
Feb 20th, '03, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by Evil Steve
How about The Ultra-Killer! A steel verion of the Geiger alien, but with the Preadator's weapons.
He fought (and killed) The Squad!
This box of tools had their team logo emblazoned in wall height letters on the inside of their base.
I'd give you more, but my friend hacked chopped up the only issue with an axe.
No, I'd say you covered it nicely. The Squad was essentially just background flavor to give Hardcase some emotional baggage. The brick was the only one of the four to have more than 3-5 PD/ED. They're lucky they at least rated a killer robot and weren't just shot by street punks.
The Ultraverse had some serious duds in it. You know there's a high lame factor to a universe if you import a throwaway dork like the Reaper from X-Force's Mutant Liberation Front group and he becomes an effective character.
Acroyear
Feb 20th, '03, 02:53 PM
Anyone remember...
The Heckler.
I think he just teased you until you gave up.
Superskrull
Feb 20th, '03, 02:59 PM
Let's talk about the Protectors. they had a guy with animal powers -Ferret, a mentally disturbed brick -Amazing Man, a grim avenger of the night -Gravestone several even less memorable characters and my personal favorite, Nightmask II.
IN a superhero world where you can trash a street gang with your black belt training, this walking dead man possessed the full fury of KS: Karate. There's a 4th Ed writeup of him that's actually quite generous at http://www.mactyre.net/scm/deejay/champs/characters/protectors/night_mask_ii.html though for some reason, he's actually not as good at whacking people with a quarterstaff as normals are. JUst go. Go now. Jeer and throw fruit, too.
Go look at the guy killed by a villain with the codename Mr Monday. I mean this villain's name make you think he should be hunted by people like Sunday Driver & Saturday NIght Special.
Superskrull
Feb 20th, '03, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by Law Dog
I can attest to that. I have issues 1 and 3.
Some of his cheesy rogues gallery included Tinyman, Elasticman, the Bat (who became The Ray later) and Atom Jaw.
I thought Tinyman was, like, his buddy the DA or something?
Not that I'm happy to remember anything about that stuff.
lemming
Feb 20th, '03, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by SuperPheemy
Some of the silliest supers come from the Legion. Specifically the Legion of Substitue Heroes.
You forgot Porcupine Pete and Infectious Lass!
I need to find that Ambush Bug where he goes to the future. Good memories!
Superskrull
Feb 20th, '03, 03:14 PM
Well, I wanted to try and think of superheroes who were cannibals, I can only thnk of one, though. Crime Cannibal from the Man-Eating Cow comics set in the Tick's world is actually funny so I don't wanna bash him.
Then I thought about nonhumans who eat criminals. There's a couple of those. The aformentioned Man-Eating Cow is entertaining though not as funny as Bessie the Hellcow. :)
Then I remembered Morlock, though I wish I hadn't. He was a plant creature who turned into this human looking guy who sometimes ate people on accident. -shakes his head-
Maybe he wasn't a superhero/villain but he wore spandex for no good reason and so I'm gonna count him.
MisterVimes
Feb 20th, '03, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by Superskrull
I thought Tinyman was, like, his buddy the DA or something?
Not that I'm happy to remember anything about that stuff.
That is correct, Tinyman was his partner and was District Attorney
Superskrull
Feb 20th, '03, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by lemming
You forgot Porcupine Pete and Infectious Lass!
I need to find that Ambush Bug where he goes to the future. Good memories!
I also forgot Double Header, Antenae Lad and Spaceopoly Lad, to name a few.
Didn't Pete get his quills by being cursed by a 5th dimensional imp?
Superskrull
Feb 20th, '03, 04:09 PM
There are sports-related injuries and sports-related heroes.
Marvel had a few characters that felt like both combined.
First, though most definitely not foremost, there was Kickers Inc. they were a bunch of football players who went adventuring. Admittedly, the quarterback had superstrength and speed, but his wife and teammates sure didn't. Although, one of them was drawn looking like he was 7 ft tall and 4 feet wide and made of solid muscle.
Then, 'cause some people never learn, we got a zero for the nineties, NFL Superpro. He was a former football player turned sports reporter. During his career of investigative sports reporting, he had an accident involving chemicals and took to wearing 'an advanced football uniform' as the thankfully now forgotten NFL Superpro. He had enhanced athletic abilties , superstrength and fought for Truth, Justice and the American Football Way.
Why do I have to remember these things?
Shiva13
Feb 20th, '03, 04:38 PM
NFL SuperPro
Yes, Marvel produced this horror. It still dives me nightmares.
KawangaKid
Feb 20th, '03, 04:57 PM
She was sexy as hell, but her premonitions were ALWAYS right. That meant that even if she told you what was gonna happen, you couldn't change it.
"You're going to die horribly."
"Any chance of avoiding that future?"
"No."
"Gee, thanks for sharing."
MilkmanDan
Feb 20th, '03, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by Mightybec
Does anyone remember Styx? Him and and a guy called Stone faught Spidey one time. This guy basically got off when he touched things and killed them. Anyways, a bag of grain fell on him somehow, and because he killed millions of grain seeds, he basically messed his pants and just sat there in extasy while Spidey captured him. If your main power incapacitates you when it works, you need to find a new job.
Mightybec
I thought that was a group of villains. Had sonic powers, caused some form of horrific nausea. Had a flirtation with robotics at one point. Summoned a gathering of angels, once threatened Miss America, terrible stuff like that.
They were EVIL.:D
Law Dog
Feb 20th, '03, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by MisterVimes
That is correct, Tinyman was his partner and was District Attorney
He became a buddy and a D.A. only after reforming. Gotta love that.
bcholmes
Feb 20th, '03, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Mightybec
Ok guys, in your opinion, who is the dorkiest hero or villian in comic history, and why?
Vibe, from the JLA's embarassing period. He's a super-powered breakdancer.
Armitage
Feb 20th, '03, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by Superskrull
The Generic Hero -star of the Generic Comic Book, this moron actually got superpowers from his collection of glow-in-the-dark junk...
To be fair, the items glowed because they contained radium paint, like old glow-in-the-dark watch faces.
Workers painting the watches kept developing cancer because nobody told them not to wet the brushes in their mouths while working...
Law Dog
Feb 20th, '03, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by bcholmes
Vibe, from the JLA's embarassing period. He's a super-powered breakdancer.
And that is somehow worse than Dazzler? A superpowered Disco singer, created in a time when disco was just about dead.
Evil Steve
Feb 20th, '03, 09:54 PM
Aw Hell, I forgot all about Dazzler's early carrer. Real shame 'cause I own most of that series. I bought it for one issue, when Rogue tries to kill her.
Anyone wanna guess which issue I don't have?:mad:
Dr. Anomaly
Feb 20th, '03, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by SuperPheemy
Ferro-Lad = Could turn his body to Iron, but once he did that he was unable to move.
Polar Boy = Typical cold-based powers, just looked stupid in his fur-trimmed outfit.
Spectra-Lad = Could generate rainbow beams of light. Non-damaging, altogether not disablingly bright, rainbow beams of light. Black costume with white trim and a rainbow on his chest.
As has already been pointed out, the first one on this list is actually Stone Boy. Later on he (gradually) developed greater control of his power, and learned to (1) selectively turn just certain parts of his body to stone -- like, say, his fist (just before he punched you) and (2) move even while turned to stone (sort of a sleepwalking state, but he WAS able to fight).
Polar Boy didn't exactly have 'typical' cold-based powers. Rather like Killer Frost (from Firestorm's hit list) his powers worked by *absorbing* heat. He was, in effect, immune to just about any heat effect, including the temperatures at the core of the Earth. Most people would expect "Hey, a cold-based guy! Let's see how he like a little fire-blast!" In the case of Polar Boy, those making this assumption were in for an upleasant surprise.
The last one you mentioned is actually Color Kid, and was a tad bit more effective than you'd think. Among other things, his exploits included saving Superboy & Supergirl (turning a cloud of green kryptonite particles surrounding the Earth to blue, which didn't affect them) and blinding opponents by turning the color of the air to black. He also helped put paid to a number of Khund warships during the Earthwar, by swapping the colors of the sky & ground. The confused pilots believed their eyes instead of their instruments and...crunch.
Kaeto
Feb 21st, '03, 12:47 AM
How about a character that sombody in my gaming group tried to create? In 3rd edition Champions, a 400 point character with 200 points in growth, and 200 points in density increase.
Thirdbase
Feb 21st, '03, 01:05 AM
Mr. Fantastic Elastic Plasticman.
Stretch Armstrong by any other name.
Superskrull
Feb 21st, '03, 02:09 AM
Originally posted by Law Dog
He became a buddy and a D.A. only after reforming. Gotta love that.
Well, that figures. :D
Superskrull
Feb 21st, '03, 02:24 AM
Originally posted by Evil Steve
Aw Hell, I forgot all about Dazzler's early carrer. Real shame 'cause I own most of that series. I bought it for one issue, when Rogue tries to kill her.
Anyone wanna guess which issue I don't have?:mad:
The one with the bounty hunter and his dog? No, wait, the Secret Wars II crossover? The one where she fights Dr Doom?
The one where she beats Terrax the Tamer? The one where, distraught over the flagging popularity of Disco, she is cryogenically preserved to be restored in the late 90's to ride a nostalgia train straight to the top of the charts with her stunning post-ice debut single "Disco Duck" with guest vocals by Howard the Duck?
Y'know, I never could figure out who booked a disco singer in a punk club when she first appeared back in Uncanny X-men along with Kitty Pryde.
Of course, I've heard that no one at Marvel then or now will take responsibility for the creation of Dazzler.
Superskrull
Feb 21st, '03, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by Armitage
To be fair, the items glowed because they contained radium paint, like old glow-in-the-dark watch faces.
Workers painting the watches kept developing cancer because nobody told them not to wet the brushes in their mouths while working...
Wow. To swipe a quote from Supreme ( the poster, not the superhero), "Raging Roentgen!"
Superskrull
Feb 21st, '03, 02:38 AM
Originally posted by Dr. Anomaly
As has already been pointed out, the first one on this list is actually Stone Boy. Later on he (gradually) developed greater control of his power, and learned to (1) selectively turn just certain parts of his body to stone -- like, say, his fist (just before he punched you) and (2) move even while turned to stone (sort of a sleepwalking state, but he WAS able to fight).
Ah yes, the Biernbaum era. I loved some of their stuff, hated some of it and was indifferent to much. I liked that they made the Subs as effective as they could have been. Even if they had to fudge a power or two. Much as I liked seeing Stone Boy kickin' ass, surely the power of movement while stone would have been mentioned before,somewhere.
Polar Boy didn't exactly have 'typical' cold-based powers. Rather like Killer Frost (from Firestorm's hit list) his powers worked by *absorbing* heat. He was, in effect, immune to just about any heat effect, including the temperatures at the core of the Earth. Most people would expect "Hey, a cold-based guy! Let's see how he like a little fire-blast!" In the case of Polar Boy, those making this assumption were in for an upleasant surprise.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, remember why he didn't make the cut before? Thjey were afraid his powers might get out of control and damage things. Something you apparently wouldn't have happen with people like Element Lad, Sun Boy or Lightning Lad, of course.
The last one you mentioned is actually Color Kid, and was a tad bit more effective than you'd think. Among other things, his exploits included saving Superboy & Supergirl (turning a cloud of green kryptonite particles surrounding the Earth to blue, which didn't affect them) and blinding opponents by turning the color of the air to black. He also helped put paid to a number of Khund warships during the Earthwar, by swapping the colors of the sky & ground. The confused pilots believed their eyes instead of their instruments and...crunch. [/QUOTE]
Considering his power to control coloration, there's a whole host of things he could do to mess with people. Naturally, my favorite scene with him is from the old DC Presents with Superman and Ambush Bug. The Bug is trying to pull off Antennae Lad's ears 'cause he thinks they're fake and Color Kid shoots this rainbow of harmless light at him. Ambush Bug responds with "Oh no! Technicolor!" or something to that effect.
mattingly
Feb 21st, '03, 04:42 AM
The last one you mentioned is actually Color Kid, and was a tad bit more effective than you'd think.
And he can take on the entire Green Lantern Corps by himself!
MisterVimes
Feb 21st, '03, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by mattingly
And he can take on the entire Green Lantern Corps by himself!
Yeah, but ALan Scott would have kicked his butt! ... um... provided Cloriphyll Kid wasn't backing him up... :o
bcholmes
Feb 21st, '03, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Anomaly
The last one you mentioned is actually Color Kid, and was a tad bit more effective than you'd think. [...] He also helped put paid to a number of Khund warships during the Earthwar, by swapping the colors of the sky & ground. The confused pilots believed their eyes instead of their instruments and...crunch.
I recall being in a V & V adventure at Gen Con many years ago in which we played the Legion of Super-Heroes. Color Kid came with us on a mission, and was very useful when we suddenly found ourselves facing off against the 30th-century Green Lantern of Khund.
"Quick! Make us all yellow!"
SuperPheemy
Feb 21st, '03, 02:31 PM
Thanks for putting the Legion of Substitute Heroes in order. It's been many moons (obviously) since I've witnessed the awesome power of Color Kid or Stone Boy.
It sounds like Color Kid's powers were more of a Deux ex Machina than something intended to be very effective. Like Aquaman's telepathic command of fish suddenly being able to give Zum a brain seizure because the Basil Ganglia is a holdover from marine evolution.
Though being able to hold off the Green Lantern Corps by turning things yellow makes for a very amusing mental image.
Agent Escafarc
Feb 22nd, '03, 05:24 PM
OK, Kiddies set your way-back machines to Sept.'41-Mar.'42(Yankee Comics 1-4) The Enchanted Dagger He had, Yes, an enchanted dagger with powers very simular to Wonder Womans Lasso.
Dr. Anomaly
Feb 22nd, '03, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by mattingly
And he can take on the entire Green Lantern Corps by himself!
Hmmm...I wonder...would he have to turn *other* stuff yellow? What do you suppose would happen if he turned their RINGS yellow? Would they just shut off? Be unable to project the emerald energy at all? It might even drain them completely -- after all, being yellow, the emerald energy probably couldn't be stored in them, and it would just dissapate.
Dr. Anomaly
Feb 22nd, '03, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Superskrull
Ah yes, the Biernbaum era. I loved some of their stuff, hated some of it and was indifferent to much. I liked that they made the Subs as effective as they could have been. Even if they had to fudge a power or two. Much as I liked seeing Stone Boy kickin' ass, surely the power of movement while stone would have been mentioned before,somewhere.
(Polar Boy) Yeah, remember why he didn't make the cut before? Thjey were afraid his powers might get out of control and damage things. Something you apparently wouldn't have happen with people like Element Lad, Sun Boy or Lightning Lad, of course.
(Color Kid) Considering his power to control coloration, there's a whole host of things he could do to mess with people. Naturally, my favorite scene with him is from the old DC Presents with Superman and Ambush Bug. The Bug is trying to pull off Antennae Lad's ears 'cause he thinks they're fake and Color Kid shoots this rainbow of harmless light at him. Ambush Bug responds with "Oh no! Technicolor!" or something to that effect.
(Stone Boy) Actually, the partial transformation skill came along well before the Biernbaum era. Way back when Dynamo Boy infiltrated the Legion, got the rest of the Legionnaires expelled on Trumped-up charges, and then inducted the Legion of Super-Villains, Stone Boy used this ability when the Subs tried to take on the "reformed" LSV.
(Polar Boy) The reason given for his rejection annoyed me greatly, especially considering they'd ALREADY had stories where both Lightning Lad and Sun Boy had lost control of their powers. This actually caused enough grief that much later the then-writers retconned this to say the real reason he'd been rejected was because he was 1 year below the minimum age requirement of 14.
(DC Comics Presents) I've got a love-hate relationship with this comic. I love:
* Seeing the Subs get some seldom-offered "screen time"
* Ambush Bug
* The laugh-a-minute madcap pace
* Giffen still drawing like he actually has talent
* Superman being drawn in the old Seigle&Shuster style
* Infectious Lass (le rowr rowr!) -- her best look yet!
I hated:
* Seeing the Subs made laughingstocks (something the thrice-d@mned Giffen took to extremes later) though seeing Superman ALSO made to look bad was some compensation
* Ambush Bug (I love to hate this guy) :)
* Seeing the Subs made laughingstocks (did I already mention this?)
Still and all, that comic is one of my prized possessions.
wcw43921
Feb 22nd, '03, 07:19 PM
I nominate for the Most Lame Villain in a Superhero Comic/Movie/TV Series--
The Wedding Destroyer, from "Lois & Clark"
What--did they think "Great! We got Delta Burke to be on the show, what do we do with her? I KNOW!! We have her attempt to destroy Lois & Clark's wedding! In fact, that's what she does! She's--she's--THE WEDDING DESTROYER!"
Oh, yeah. Sign her up for the Legion Of Doom. Better call out the entire DC Universe to take her down. In fact, you might have to call in the Avengers, the X-Men, the A-Team and Mutant X to defeat her. After all, she's not Darkseid, or Galactus, or Gozer the Gozerian, or Casanova Frankenstein--she's the Wedding Destroyer!!!!!
In the comics, Superman fights enemies like Darkseid, Doomsday, Imperiex--monsters and menaces capable of not just destroying worlds, but the universe. In "Lois & Clark," he could barely handle an enemy trying to destroy his wedding. Talk about a total lack of respect for the character. :mad:
Someday, I'll be able to forget about the--uggh--Wedding Destroyer. But not today.
Superskrull
Feb 23rd, '03, 04:24 AM
Originally posted by wcw43921
Someday, I'll be able to forget about the--uggh--Wedding Destroyer. But not today.
Darn. I missed seeing that episode. Does she take the cake or what? She is Delta Burke after all. She looks like she could snarf a wedding cake in a single gulp. :D
Agent Escafarc
Feb 23rd, '03, 04:53 AM
Here's a few more oldies but "goodies":
K The Unknown
Prize Comics No. 1 (Mar.'40)
The name and costume were so bad that in his second appearance the editors change his costume and name to The Black OwlPrize Comics No.2-68 (Aug.'41-Feb/Mar'48)
Airmale & Stampy
Prize Comics No.34-43 (Sept'43-July'44)
I'm suprised that this character wasn't reconned into the villian Postal
MuscaDomestica
Feb 23rd, '03, 06:24 AM
K The Unknown... come on we need description/pics of this guy. :)
Agent Escafarc
Feb 23rd, '03, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by MuscaDomestica
K The Unknown... come on we need description/pics of this guy. :)
Sorry my scanner is on the fritz:( but here's a decription:
Orange body suit withRed gloves, shorts, belt, and slippers(Yes!slippers),Black hood-like half-mask and "K" symbol on his chest. :eek: :eek:
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