CHAR: Big Barda

[Enforcer84]

This is for my homees down under.
In my eyes Barda is the Thor to Wonder Woman's Hercules. Or if you're a Marvel fan, reverse the guys.

She's louder, brasher, bigger, and badder. She just is marginalized by the fact that Wonder Woman is the the preeminent female in the DCU so she only gets to look so good.



This is an earlier attempt at Mrs Barda Free based on the old DC Heroes game from Mayfair Games and a DCHeroes > Champions Decoder ring (okay article) that I got in an old Adventurer's Club magazine.

Big Barda
Val  Char  Cost  Roll  Notes
55    STR     45      20-    Lift 51.2tons; 11d6 [5]
28    DEX     54      15-    OCV:  9/DCV:  9
30    CON     40      15-
14    BODY    8      12-
23    INT       13      14-    PER Roll 14-
16    EGO     12      12-    ECV:  5
25    PRE      15      14-    PRE Attack:  5d6
18    COM     4      13-

25/39    PD         14      Total:  25/39 PD (0/14 rPD)
25/39    ED         19      Total:  25/39 ED (0/14 rED)
7    SPD       32      Phases: 2, 4, 6, 7, 9, 11, 12
24    REC       14
60    END     0
60    STUN   3      Total Characteristic Cost:  273

Movement:
Running:  6"/12"
Flight:  26"/52"
Leaping:  11"/22"
Swimming:  2"/4"


Cost  Powers  END
35  Armor: Battle Armor:  Armor (14 PD/14 ED), Hardened (+1/4) (52 Active Points); OIF (-1/2)
80  Multipower: Mega Rod:  Multipower, 80-point reserve
16m  1) Energy Blast: Force Bolt:  Energy Blast 16d6 (80 Active Points) 8
16m  2) Flight 26", Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (78 Active Points)
2u  3) Extra-Dimensional Movement (Related Group of Dimensions, Any Location), x8 Increased Weight (50 Active Points); OAF (-1) 5
55  Telekinesis: Gravity Increase:  Telekinesis (55 STR) (83 Active Points); only to hold targets down (-1/2) 8
10  Instant Change:  Cosmetic Transform 2d6, Improved Target Group: Any Clothes (+1/4) (12 Active Points); Limited Target: Own Clothes Slightly Limited (-1/4) 1
4  Martial Block +2 +2 Block, Abort
4  Martial Disarm -1 +1 Disarm; 65 STR to Disarm roll
4  Martial Dodge -- +5 Dodge, Affects All Attacks, Abort
4  Martial Escape +0 +0 70 STR vs. Grabs
3  Martial Grab -1 -1 Grab Two Limbs, 65 STR for holding on
4  Martial Strike +0 +2 13d6 Strike
3  Martial Throw +0 +1 11d6 +v/5, Target Falls
2  Weapon Element: Pole Arms, Swords, Unarmed Combat
Perks
5  Money: Well Off
1  Contact: Apokalips Underground 8-
3  Contact: Justice League 12-
Skills
2  AK: Area Knowledge: Apokolips 11-
40  +5 with All Combat
3  Acrobatics 15-
3  Breakfall 15-
3  Climbing 15-
3  Sleight of Hand 15-
5  Stealth 16-
2  Animal Handler (Pick Something)
3  Demolitions 14-
3  Electronics 14-
3  Mechanics 14-
3  Shadowing 14-
2  Survival (Pick Something) 14-
3  Computer Programming 14-
3  Concealment 14-
3  Cryptography 14-
3  Inventor 14-
3  Security Systems 14-
3  Systems Operation 14-
5  Tactics 15-
3  Tracking 14-
2  KS: Knowledge Skill: Military 11-
2  Weapon Familiarity: Common Melee Weapons
2  Weapon Familiarity: Common Missile Weapons
1  Weapon Familiarity: Lances
1  Weapon Familiarity: Quarterstaff
1  Weapon Familiarity: Sling
1  Weapon Familiarity: Staff Sling
3  Conversation 14-
3  High Society 14-
3  Interrogation 14-
5  Persuasion 15-
3  Streetwise 14-
3  Biology 14-
3  Computer Science 14-
3  Engineer 14-
3  History 14-
3  Mathematics 14-
3  Metallurgy 14-
3  Mining Engineer 14-
3  Physics 14-
3  Research 14-

Total Powers & Skill Cost:  406
Total Cost:  679

200+ Disadvantages
20  Psych. Lim.: Aggressive, Warlike: Common, Total
15  Secret Identity: Barda Free: Frequently (11-), Major
20  Psych. Lim.: Honorable Warrior: Common, Total
20  Psych. Lim.: Devoted to Husband: Common, Total
15  Hunted: Darkseid: 8- (Occasionally), More Powerful, Harshly Punish
15  Hunted: Female Furies: 11- (Frequently), As Powerful, Harshly Punish
374 Experience Points
(62 points unspent)

Total Disadvantage Points:  679



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I have been given some research topics by Mr Bazza and will be updating this.
When She's done, I'll repost and put the HD file.

See, Bazza? I told you I'd get to it someday.

[TheQuestionMan]

You only forgot the HD3 File

Perfect

QM

P.S.: Big Barda on Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Barda

[Enforcer84]

No I didn't. This one is the old one. When I finish the write up properly I'll post the HD3 file. Like I said at the bottom. :)

[Log-Man]

The 18 COM needs to bought with the limitation "Only when Drawn by Adam Hughes, -1"

[McCoy]

The 18 COM needs to bought with the limitation "Only when Drawn by Adam Hughes, -1"
Bull. She was never more beautiful than when drawn by Kirby.

[freakboy6117]

doesn't the megarod have a hand attack? or is that just a modern invention i'm sure i've seen her smite her enemies with furious vengence unless thats a modern invention

[Enforcer84]

doesn't the megarod have a hand attack? or is that just a modern invention i'm sure i've seen her smite her enemies with furious vengence unless thats a modern invention
It does. Like I said that was a place holder; a write up based on limited information. I'm doing research today, hopefully will have a much better version posted here tonight.

I must warn you: I ain't touching the motherbox. That's not statable.
...and getchermind outta the gutter.

[Enforcer84]

The 18 COM needs to bought with the limitation "Only when Drawn by Adam Hughes, -1"


Bull. She was never more beautiful than when drawn by Kirby.

1. Anyone drawn by AH gets a bonus. I like his work
2. Not a fan of Kirby's stuff really, but I'll give him props on Barda's design. Even if I tend to like her more when drawn by other artists.

[Log-Man]

Bull. She was never more beautiful than when drawn by Kirby.
Much as I admire Kirby, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that one. I find most artists made Barda rather unattractive, but I later realized it's really the fault of that costume. AH managed to make her attractive despite the costume.

On a slightly different angle, no couple has inspired more odd visions of their bedroom antics than Big Barda, massively muscled amazonian bully, and the ever-handcuffed Mr. Miracle?



Ok, maybe Reed "wanna know why they call me Mr. Fantastic?" Richards and Susan "I make superhard objects of any size and shape with my mind" Richards...

[Hyper-Man]

I wonder how many superhero names have 2 words starting with the same letter?

Big Barda
Blue Beetle
Wonder Woman
...

[Enforcer84]

Alliteration is heroic.

[Enforcer84]

Oh and I keep getting sidracked (Damn you Wikipedia/Internet!) But I am making progress.

[Enforcer84]

Much as I admire Kirby, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that one. I find most artists made Barda rather unattractive, but I later realized it's really the fault of that costume. AH managed to make her attractive despite the costume.

On a slightly different angle, no couple has inspired more odd visions of their bedroom antics than Big Barda, massively muscled amazonian bully, and the ever-handcuffed Mr. Miracle?



Ok, maybe Reed "wanna know why they call me Mr. Fantastic?" Richards and Susan "I make superhard objects of any size and shape with my mind" Richards...
Do you mean the armor? or her Red Bikini?

[Log-Man]

Do you mean the armor? or her Red Bikini?
The armor. And it's really not even the whole armor that bugs me, just the headpiece. If the helmet were different, i'd probably have no problem. After all, I love Scott Free's epileptic inducing menagerie of a costume. :D

Speaking of which, can we expect a Mr. Miracle write-up?

[Enforcer84]

The armor. And it's really not even the whole armor that bugs me, just the headpiece. If the helmet were different, i'd probably have no problem. After all, I love Scott Free's epileptic inducing menagerie of a costume. :D

Speaking of which, can we expect a Mr. Miracle write-up?
See, I kinda dig the headpiece after all these years.
Oh yeah, I mean if I do one I have to do the other. Just not today.
Hey, for you're viewing pleasure I present....nice art I found.

[Enforcer84]

And Heeeeeere's Barda!

The mega-rod is a beast. THe Mother Box I handwaived. But She's esspensive, about 130 pts more than Wonder Woman.

Barda
Val Char Cost Roll Notes
85 STR 75 26- Lift 3.3ktons; 17d6 [8]
28 DEX 54 15- OCV: 9/DCV: 9
40 CON 60 17-
25 BODY 30 14-
23 INT 13 14- PER Roll 14-
23 EGO 26 14- ECV: 8
30 PRE 20 15- PRE Attack: 6d6
20 COM 5 13-

25/45 PD 8 Total: 25/45 PD (5/25 rPD)
25/45 ED 17 Total: 25/45 ED (5/25 rED)
7 SPD 32 Phases: 2, 4, 6, 7, 9, 11, 12
30 REC 10
100 END 10
100 STUN 12 Total Characteristic Cost: 384

Movement:
Running: 10"/20"
Flight: 65"/16640"
Leaping: 17"/34"
Swimming: 6"/12"


Cost Powers END
100 Mega Rod: Multipower, 200-point reserve, (200 Active Points); OAF (-1)
19u 1) Blast: Modified and Variable: Energy Blast 14d6, Variable Advantage (+1 Advantages; Limited Group of Advantages: Area of Effect, Double Knockback, Explosion, No Range Modifier, Increased Maximum Range only; +1 3/4) (192 Active Points) 19
12u 2) Blast: Normal Use: Energy Blast 20d6, Reduced Endurance (1/2 END; +1/4) (125 Active Points) 5
20u 3) Blast: The Whole Thing: Energy Blast 40d6 (200 Active Points) 20
3u 4) Melee: Barda Swings for the Bleachers!: Hand-To-Hand Attack +5d6, Double Knockback (+3/4) (44 Active Points); Hand-To-Hand Attack (-1/2) 4
5u 5) Melee: Oh I'll Smite you alright: Hand-To-Hand Attack +10d6, Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (75 Active Points); Hand-To-Hand Attack (-1/2)
6u 6) Transport: Boom Tubing: Extra-Dimensional Movement (Any Dimension, Any Location), x8 Increased Weight (60 Active Points) 6
37 Mega-Rod: Flight: Multipower, 75-point reserve, (75 Active Points); OAF (-1)
6u 1) Atmospheric Apex: Flight 15", MegaScale (1" = 1,000 km; +1) (60 Active Points) 6
7u 2) Combat Flight: Flight 30", Reduced Endurance (1/2 END; +1/4) (75 Active Points) 3
7u 3) Intercept Speed: Flight 20", x256 Noncombat (75 Active Points) 7
3u 4) When Boom Tubes are unfashionable: Faster-Than-Light Travel (3 Light Years/day) (30 Active Points)
Cosmic Scale Armor, all slots Only In Heroic Identity (-1/4)
60 1) Battle Armor: Armor (20 PD/20 ED), Hardened (+1/4) (75 Active Points); Only In Heroic Identity (-1/4)
12 2) Cosmic Defenses: Power Defense (15 points) (15 Active Points); Only In Heroic Identity (-1/4)
8 3) Efficient Design: Lack Of Weakness (-10) for Resistant Defenses (10 Active Points); Only In Heroic Identity (-1/4)
8 4) Provides Stability: Knockback Resistance -5" (10 Active Points); Only In Heroic Identity (-1/4)
12 5) Space Worthy: Life Support (Safe in High Pressure; Safe in High Radiation; Safe in Low Pressure/Vacuum; Self-Contained Breathing) (15 Active Points); Only In Heroic Identity (-1/4)
Scion of Apokolips Training and Physical Attibutes
13 1) Bracing: Knockback Resistance -10" (20 Active Points); Costs Endurance (-1/2) 2
10 2) Enhanced Apokolyptian Physique: Power Defense (10 points)
30 3) Highly Resiliant: Energy Damage Reduction, Resistant, 50%
30 4) Highly Resiliant: Physical Damage Reduction, Resistant, 50%
9 5) Naturally Durable: Life Support (Longevity: Immortal; Safe in Intense Cold; Safe in Intense Heat)
7 6) Pain Tolerance: Mental Defense (+10) and Power Defense (+10) (20 Active Points); Only to resist Pain Descriptor Attacks (-2)
15 7) Powerful Will: Mental Defense (20 points total)
5 8) Really Deep Breath: LS (Self-Contained Breathing) (10 Active Points); Stops Working If Character Speaks, Is Stunned, Or Is Knocked Out (-1/2), Extra Time (Extra Segment, Only to Activate, -1/4), Can Only Be Activated In Breathable Atmosphere (-1/4)
5 9) Resistant to Small Arms: Damage Resistance (5 PD/5 ED)
21 10) Tireless: Reduced Endurance (1/2 END; +1/4) (21 Active Points) applied to STR
Granny Goodness' Combat Training
Maneuver OCV DCV Notes
4 Charge +0 -2 19d6 +v/5 Strike, FMove
4 Choke Hold -2 +0 Grab One Limb; 2d6 NND
4 Crush +0 +0 21d6 Crush, Must Follow Grab
4 Disarm -1 +1 Disarm; 95 STR to Disarm roll
4 Evasion -- +5 Dodge, Affects All Attacks, Abort
5 Fierce Punch/Kick +1 -2 21d6 Strike
4 Freedom! +0 +0 100 STR vs. Grabs
3 Grappling -1 -1 Grab Two Limbs, 95 STR for holding on
4 Ignore +2 +2 Block, Abort
5 Joint Break -1 -2 Grab One Limb; HKA 1d6 +1 , Disable
4 Killing Strike -2 +0 HKA 1d6 +1
4 Punch/Short Kick +0 +2 19d6 Strike
3 Slam +0 +1 17d6 +v/5, Target Falls
2 Weapon Element: Pole Arms, Swords, Unarmed Combat
Perks
5 I can't believe you make money doing this Scott. : Money: Well Off
9 Joiner? : Fringe Benefit: Membership: Birds of Prey, Membership: Justice League of America (Inactive)
6 Wow she IS big!: Reputation: A powerful Heroine (A large group) 11-, +3/+3d6
100 Yeah It's that Powerful: Mother Box
3 Well-Connected
14 1) Contact: New Genesis (Contact has extremely useful Skills or resources), Organization Contact (x3) (15 Active Points) 11-
7 2) Contact: Oberon (Agent/Friend) (Contact has very useful Skills or resources, Contact is slavishly loyal to character) (8 Active Points) 12-
2 3) Contact: Apokolips Underground, Organization Contact (x3) (3 Active Points) 8-
Talents
3 Creative in Combat: Combat Ready: Power Skill: Mega-Rod Tricks
14 Indominable: Fearless
10 Strong Willed (unless written by Byrne): Resistance (10 points)
Skills
10 +2 with HTH Combat
40 Elite Warrior of Apokalips: +5 with All Combat
3 Breakfall 15-
3 Climbing 15-
3 Combat Driving 15-
3 Combat Piloting 15-
3 Concealment 14-
3 Conversation 15-
3 Cryptography 14-
3 Demolitions 14-
3 Electronics 14-
3 High Society 15-
13 Hoist 19-
3 Interrogation 15-
3 Inventor 14-
3 Lockpicking 15-
3 Mechanics 14-
3 Paramedics 14-
3 Persuasion 15-
19 Power: Brick Tricks 23-
23 Power: Mega-Rod Tricks 24-
3 Scholar
2 1) KS: Apokolips (3 Active Points) 14-
2 2) KS: Apokolips Military (3 Active Points) 14-
2 3) KS: New Genesis (3 Active Points) 14-
1 4) KS: The Justice League (2 Active Points) 11-
1 5) KS: The Superhuman World (2 Active Points) 11-
3 Scientist
2 1) SS: Biology 14- (3 Active Points)
2 2) SS: Chemistry 14- (3 Active Points)
2 3) SS: Mathematics 14- (3 Active Points)
2 4) SS: Physics 14- (3 Active Points)
3 Security Systems 14-
3 Shadowing 14-
3 Sleight of Hand 15-
3 Stealth 15-
3 Streetwise 15-
18 Survival (Arctic/Subarctic, Marine, Temperate/Subtropical, Tropical, Desert, Mountain, Underground, Urban) 15-
3 Systems Operation 14-
5 Tactics 15-
3 Tracking 14-
3 Traveler
2 1) AK: Apokolips (3 Active Points) 14-
1 2) AK: Area Knowledge: Apokolips (2 Active Points) 11-
2 3) AK: New Genesis (3 Active Points) 14-
1 4) CK: Bailey, Connecticut (2 Active Points) 11-
1 5) CK: New York City (2 Active Points) 11-
10 Weapon Familiarity: Common Melee Weapons, Common Missile Weapons, Apokolips Melee Weapons, Apokolips Ranged Weapons, Superheroic Weapons

Total Powers & Skill Cost: 936
Total Cost: 1320

500+ Disadvantages
5 Dependent NPC: Scott Free (Mr. Miracle); Husband 11- (As powerful as the PC)
Notes: One of the major tropes of their relationship is that Mr. Miracle is the "normal" and Barda is the Super. Now he's totally competant, but part of thier dynamic is that Barda often rushes off to save Scott. Perhaps it doesn't always end up that way, but it's the reverse Knight/Princess dynamic that Jack Kirby was looking for. So it is said.
5 Distinctive Features: Did I mention she's 7 feet tall and awesome? (Concealable; Noticed and Recognizable; Detectable By Commonly-Used Senses; Not Distinctive In Some Cultures)
105 Humilated and Ravaged by John Byrne
25 Hunted: Darkseid 8- (Mo Pow, NCI, PC has a Public ID or is otherwise very easy to find, Harshly Punish)
15 Hunted: Granny Goodness 8- (As Pow, PC has a Public ID or is otherwise very easy to find, Harshly Punish)
Notes: Granny can find her protegee fairly easily, but this is comcs, coincidences happen alot too.
15 Hunted: The Female Furies 11- (As Pow, Harshly Punish)
15 Psycholgical Limitation: Aggressive, Warlike Common, Strong
20 Psychological Limitation: Devoted to Husband Common, Total
10 Psychological Limitation: Pragmatic & Direct Common, Moderate
15 Psychological Limitation: Supremely Confident in her abilities (Common, Strong)
5 Reputation: Second tier Wonder Woman, 8-
Notes: woe be it upon those who actually speak this in her presence.
15 Social Limitation: Secret Identity (Frequently, Major)
Notes: Though she goes by her name as a superheroine and she's a seven foot tall amazon, she still tries to keep a "normal" identity.
570 Experience Points

Total Disadvantage Points: 1320



Background/History: Cosmic Teams Website (http://www.mykey3000.com/cosmicteams/profiles/barda.html)

Big Barda was born of the race of New Gods about 250 years ago, on the hell planet called Apokolips. She is a product of Granny Goodness's Home for Orphaned Youth, where the motto is "Die for Darkseid" (the planet's evil ruler). Barda was trained by Granny herself. A sadistic old crone, Granny knew the value of discipline by using punishment and total obedience as training methods. It was not long before Barda became the leader of the Female Fury Battalion, a group of women warriors who did Granny's bidding. During one raid, Barda met Scott Free, one of Darkseid's Elite Stormtroopers. She sensed a sort of peace about him and soon fell in love.

She could not forget him and, when the time came, she risked her own safety to help Scott escape from Apokolips. Eventually, Barda turned her back on Granny and came to Earth herself. (Mr. Miracle v.1 #4, 1971) Scott had become an escape artist called Mister Miracle and teamed with Oberon, his diminutive manager. Scott and Barda were soon married by Scott's father, the Highfather of New Genesis. (#18)

For a number of years, Barda followed Scott and Oberon on tour as Mister Miracle. Eventually they retired as superheroes and moved to Bailey, New Hampshire. (Mr. Miracle v.2 #1) Despite their best attempts, a normal life eluded them. Disasters plagued them constantly, so Barda, Scott, and Oberon finally left Baily and moved to a loft in Greenwich Village, New York. There Barda helped form a defense-training program for women called the New Female Furies. During this time, Barda was kidnapped along with Superman by Sleez. Sleez mind-controlled them and nearly forced the two to perform in an adult film. They were rescued by Mr. Miracle. (Action #592-593)

Though she came to Earth naive to its customs, she relishes her roles of wife and housekeeper. But when duty calls she never hesitates to assume the posture of a warrior. When Scott's joined the new Justice League, Barda participated in a few missions as well. (Justice League America #7, 28) After his time with the JLI was over, they left Earth for New Genesis. (Mr. Miracle, v.2 #28). As ever, they soon returned to Earth (Mr. Miracle v.3 #1-2) and took up a temporary residence aboard the Justice League Refuge. The couple underwent a brief separation due to Scott's lack of consideration for her feelings. (#4-5)

Next it was Barda's turn to join the Justice League. At Takion's order, she and fellow New God Orion were sent as agents of New Genesis to serve in the JLA. Takion predicted that a grave threat to Earth and felt that the New Gods should help out. (JLA #17)

Their mission was to help mobilize Earth's heroes against the coming of the omnipotent Mageddon. Once Mageddon was defeated, she and Orion resigned from the JLA. (JLA #41)

Barda and Scott currently reside in the suburbs of Connecticut and are active in adventuring. (Orion #25) Most recently, Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman asked Barda to help them get to Apokolips via Boom Tube. On Apokolips Barda and Wonder Woman battled the Female Furies while Batman and Superman rescued Supergirl from Darkseid's clutches. After the battle was won Barda returned home to Scott. (Superman / Batman #11, 12)

Thanks to Tom Tomorrow (Thanks Tom!)

Personality/Motivation: Barda is an ass kicking amazon without the preachiness associated with DC's other Amazons. Barda grew up a slave and a weapon for evil, looking foreward only to death in service of Darkseid. Then she met the man of her dreams and escaped hell. Though she is among the bravest and best warriors on this or any other planet, and though a noble heart beats in her; Barda and her husband, Scott, relish their time as husband and wife. This has lead them to semi retirement on several occasions.

Quote: Scott's in danger! I must go to him!"

Powers/Tactics: Finely trained superhuman warrior. Barda has some cosmically powerful weapons too. So there's that.
Barda, in my mind, is more likely to let loose with powerful attacks as every instinct tells her every fight could be her last. However, she shows plenty of restraint several times in the Miracle Man series and her stints with the Justice League. Physically, I think she's beneath Wonder Woman but they are close enough to spar together. She could totally kick Batman's ass.
When the situation calls for it, the armor comes out and the Megarod begins beating foes like pinatas. She's KO'd Superman with a few shots (he was reeling anyway, trying to fight of mind control) gone toe to toe with Thor (DC's) and I'd say it's a pretty tough item. Some burnt out thug got ahold of it and was a real terror. Her armor is stored in extra dimensional space and she can summon it at will. Also, she has a motherbox, the GM's Fiat of the DCU. Physically she's somewhere between wow and WOW. She's effectively immortal, apparently born circa 1748. She's got Wonder Woman toughness (bullets and blades, etc still seem to leave a mark but she wades through it, heals fast, whatever), she's also a dynamo, she can fight for ever without tiring.

Campaign Use: Wonder Woman lite? Actually the two are really interesting to use together. Diana is from an all woman paradise island. A fine warrior, yes, but she's been trained among immortal philosophisers is a disciple of peace and brotherhood who just happens to be able to defend the universe. Barda was raised on a hellish world to fight and die for a self styled god and destroyer of all life. Barda escaped and saw through the relegion of Darkseid but she still has kill or be killed instincts. The occasions when the two have worked together in comics have explored this somewhat and it's a nice dynamic.
Using Barda also almost requires you to use Mr. Miracle, or - in the event he is unavaliable, Orion. I don't know why, it just does.

Appearance: Tall, Hawt. Barda was., according to the interweb, based on a singer/actress named Lainie Kazan as she appeared in Playboy Magazine in 1971. If you've seen the pictures...um yeah. They're nice. (Ironically, Barda's first appearance was October 1971...she's a month younger than me!).
At any rate, Barda is Wonder Woman, bigger. She's seven feet tall, muscular and buxom. She likes to wear red alot. Her armor, ironcially, is not red. It is blue scale, with gold trim and accessories. She has a red cape though.

[Enforcer84]

Now some of the stat creep was to keep up with the jonses. I didn't give her Lightning reflexes because everyone else seems to have them and she's more of a straight up Brick than Wonder Woman. IMO


oh, and Question man? This is for you!

[Teflon Billy]

Excellent job.

I give you permission to finish Mr. Miracle before moving onto Ares. ;)

Keep up the good work.

TB

[Bazza]

Excellent job.

I give you permission to finish Mr. Miracle before moving onto Ares. ;)

Keep up the good work.

TB Nicely done Chad. Have to rep you later. Was my research helpful? :)

And after Mr Miracle, Ares (Marvel or DC?) you can move onto Binary/Warbird/Ms. Marvel/Carol Danvers (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/MSMARVEL013_cvr.jpg).

[Bazza]

I must warn you: I ain't touching the motherbox. That's not statable. as it is an AI, stat it like a follower, ala the suit of armor from Galactic Champions.

...and getchermind outta the gutter. you know me too well :D

[Enforcer84]

as it is an AI, stat it like a follower, ala the suit of armor from Galactic Champions.
you know me too well :D
I suppose you could just make it an AI with a huge VPP...

[Enforcer84]

Nicely done Chad. Have to rep you later. Was my research helpful? :)

And after Mr Miracle, Ares (Marvel or DC?) you can move onto Binary/Warbird/Ms. Marvel/Carol Danvers (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/MSMARVEL013_cvr.jpg).
Ah Carol. Mmmmmm. You seem to be pushing my buttons.

Well, my game is cancelled this week but I have to work saturday.
Let me see what I can accomplish.

[Bazza]

I suppose you could just make it an AI with a huge VPP... That was my first choice. I though making the motherbox a follower would be more a elegant solution.


Ah Carol. Mmmmmm. You seem to be pushing my buttons.

Well, my game is cancelled this week but I have to work saturday.
Let me see what I can accomplish. If you need more research done...you know where to PM me.

:D :cool:

[McCoy]

I must warn you: I ain't touching the motherbox. That's not statable.
...and getchermind outta the gutter.
It depends.

If it is not a literal Deus ex machina, if we approch it as a device that protects, supports, and comforts her symbiote, she should be statable.

But to stat a Mother Box, first you have to decide what a Boom Tube is. As a mega-scale teleport, and only having a very vague idea of how far it is to New Genesis or Apokolips, I came out with 180 active points.

The interdimensional idea has some merti, but somehow just doesn't feel right.

Maybe the Boom Tube is an independent entity, a tame wormhole, and what a Mother Box does is not so much create as summon the Boom Tube.

[Hyper-Man]

I wonder how many superhero names have 2 words starting with the same letter?

Big Barda
Blue Beetle
Wonder Woman
...

Tiny Tim
Fast Freddy
Pistol Pete
Large Larry
Big Bill

[Enforcer84]

Green Goblin
Gray Ghost
Rocket Racer
Silver Surfer

[Kenn]

105 Humilated and Ravaged by John Byrne


Two questions...
#1) What the heck did I miss in Byrne's 'New Gods' book, or wherever?

#2) Why, when I load up your Barda file does Hero Designer halve the cost of the individual Power slots from what you have?

But it is a very nice and thorough write-up.

[Enforcer84]

Two questions...
#1) What the heck did I miss in Byrne's 'New Gods' book, or wherever?

#2) Why, when I load up your Barda file does Hero Designer halve the cost of the individual Power slots from what you have?

But it is a very nice and thorough write-up.
1) nah I'm referring to an old "Action Comics" two issue tale in which some lame ass mind controller from Apokolips mind controls Barda in to doing porn films for him, then manages to get the drop on Superman and tries to get them to do it for the camera. Miracle Man (after being shown his wife in a porno by Darkseid as proof (though the fact that she seemed to have been missing for a while is glossed over)) charges in and rescues them.
for a more articulate review of this read here (http://livingbetweenwednesdays.blogspot.com/2007/01/hot-action-comics.html).

#2...that, I'm not sure about.

[Kirby]

First, Enforcer, sweet.

Secondly, I have that issue. I read it when I was younger and didn't fully understand the implications, but knew the Barda/Superman/Mr. Miracle ending was overlooking something. (Now I know.)

Finally, any chance of seeing the other Female Furies? Or even just Lashina? :whip:

[Kenn]

1) nah I'm referring to an old "Action Comics" two issue tale in which some lame ass mind controller from Apokolips mind controls Barda in to doing porn films for him, then manages to get the drop on Superman and tries to get them to do it for the camera. Miracle Man (after being shown his wife in a porno by Darkseid as proof (though the fact that she seemed to have been missing for a while is glossed over)) charges in and rescues them.
for a more articulate review of this read here (http://livingbetweenwednesdays.blogspot.com/2007/01/hot-action-comics.html).

#2...that, I'm not sure about.

Y'know, I'd blotted those issues from my memory.

Oh, and it seems that my copy of H.D. thinks that if the Limitation is on the whole multipower (in this case OAF), then it should also apply to the slot.

Which is how I thought it should be too.

[Enforcer84]

First, Enforcer, sweet.

Secondly, I have that issue. I read it when I was younger and didn't fully understand the implications, but knew the Barda/Superman/Mr. Miracle ending was overlooking something. (Now I know.)

Finally, any chance of seeing the other Female Furies? Or even just Lashina? :whip:
behave!
I dunno, I have limited attention span :)
I'll see what I can do.

[Enforcer84]

Y'know, I'd blotted those issues from my memory.

Oh, and it seems that my copy of H.D. thinks that if the Limitation is on the whole multipower (in this case OAF), then it should also apply to the slot.

Which is how I thought it should be too.
It's probably right.

[McCoy]

After working on it for two days, I get a Mother Box as 500 points.

Which would be a follower that cost 100 points.

Which is exactly what Enforcer84 came up with when he handwaved it.

Color me impressed.

[Enforcer84]

Colour me Lucky. :)

[Rage]

After working on it for two days, I get a Mother Box as 500 points.

Which would be a follower that cost 100 points.

Which is exactly what Enforcer84 came up with when he handwaved it.

Color me impressed.
Are you going to show us your write up?

[LoresLost]

I must warn you: I ain't touching the motherbox. That's not statable.
...and getchermind outta the gutter.

The Mother Box is easy... Compared to the Mobius Chair.

Speaking of the Mobius Chair and boom tubes, I remember a comic where Metron uses a boom tube to study some event in time. But it required special knowledge to pull off (Metron's area I do believe)

[FenrisUlf]

1) nah I'm referring to an old "Action Comics" two issue tale in which some lame ass mind controller from Apokolips mind controls Barda in to doing porn films for him, then manages to get the drop on Superman and tries to get them to do it for the camera. Miracle Man (after being shown his wife in a porno by Darkseid as proof (though the fact that she seemed to have been missing for a while is glossed over)) charges in and rescues them.
for a more articulate review of this read here (http://livingbetweenwednesdays.blogspot.com/2007/01/hot-action-comics.html).


Ye gods, if I hadn't seen the evidence I'd never have believed it.

Say what you will about Millar and Civil War, at least he didn't have Sue Richards get mind-controlled into being a skanky ho.

[Enforcer84]

Ye gods, if I hadn't seen the evidence I'd never have believed it.

Say what you will about Millar and Civil War, at least he didn't have Sue Richards get mind-controlled into being a skanky ho.
Didn't Byrne do that with Psychoman and turning Sue into Malice?

[Black Ops]

Sarcasm on:

Ah page 2 of this thread finally put me to rest.
I was wondering when you started making so wimpy characters.
Only STR 55 what were you thinking Enforcer ?

Shame.

Sarcasm off.:lol::lol::lol:

Nice take really.

[Enforcer84]

Thanks!
I can't change who I am :)

[LoresLost]

Didn't Byrne do that with Psychoman and turning Sue into Malice?

Yes, In fact Byrne did do just that.

And the lame ### mind controller's name was Sleeze. Great Kribyish name (Thought that when I read that story and still do today). With a very good backstory too IIRC

[FenrisUlf]

Didn't Byrne do that with Psychoman and turning Sue into Malice?


Yes, In fact Byrne did do just that.



Yeah, that's right, he did do that.

Perhaps we should start a thread sometime on why so many comics fanboys and writers are into supervillainesses [that] dress like S&M bondage queens.

[LoresLost]

Yeah, that's right, he did do that.

Perhaps we should start a thread sometime on why so many comics fanboys and writers are into supervillainesses [that] dress like S&M bondage queens.

Well to be honest, Most Female characters in comics are given idealized bodies (I do believe there are a few threads that can be raised that touch on this). Come to consider it I can not think of a heroine who is not 'perfect' and 98% of villainesses are the same, Dspare of the Endless is the only Fat female I can think of in either 'mainstream' comic companies universes. Even the female death characters of both mainstream comics are idealize (Death of the Endless less so. Hel and Thanto's desire (Death in Marvel) are also idealized female forms).

[DusterBoy]

Shouldn't she have the Reputation: World's Worst Cook, 11-? I'm sure I've seen that on other write-ups.

And yes, Barda is one of my favourite mambers of the JLA, even with the eyepatch in Kingdom Come.

[Kenn]

Well to be honest, Most Female characters in comics are given idealized bodies (I do believe there are a few threads that can be raised that touch on this). Come to consider it I can not think of a heroine who is not 'perfect' and 98% of villainesses are the same, Dspare of the Endless is the only Fat female I can think of in either 'mainstream' comic companies universes. Even the female death characters of both mainstream comics are idealize (Death of the Endless less so. Hel and Thanto's desire (Death in Marvel) are also idealized female forms).

You forgot Amanda Waller. But in any case, it ain't just the women. Most men aren't cut like Steve Rogers, Namor, Bruce Wayne, Kal-el, Hawkman, etc. either.

[LoresLost]

You forgot Amanda Waller. But in any case, it ain't just the women. Most men aren't cut like Steve Rogers, Namor, Bruce Wayne, Kal-el, Hawkman, etc. either.

True, but most of complaining I have seen on this topic are from and about women. This thread is an example of what I mean 54920 (http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54920)

[Enforcer84]

And Big Bertha from the Great Lakes Avengers...

[JmOz]

Ms Marvel of the Fantastic Four as well (Sharron something or other, she basicaly looked like the Thing)

[Enforcer84]

Sharon Ventura. Good catch.
Oh and Brickhouse from Milestone Comics

[Matt the Bruins]

The thing is, most male superheroes have builds that would not be out of place for skilled athletes, martial artists, etc. who keep themselves in excellent shape. It's reasonable that guys who decide to fight crime as heros/vigilantes would tend to self-select from the physically fit.

Most female superheroes are drawn with builds more appropriate to Playboy playmates than women who can chase down fleeing crooks or hold their own in a boxing match. It doesn't make sense to me that the decision to become a heroine would select for women with a big cup size, slender waist, and stylish blonde hair rather than general athletic fitness. Unless There's some nefarious company out there cranking out radioactive stripper poles...

[JmOz]

didn't stan lee have a character who was a stripper?

[Enforcer84]

Depends who was behind Stripperealla?