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Dr.Device
Feb 23rd, '07, 07:28 AM
Thanks for making the change to clips.

Unfortunately, the change broke something else. If you choose clips and also choose any of the options that make charges more of a limitation (Increased Reloading Time, Increased Recovery Time, Charges Never Recover) the number of clips drops to 1.

Steps to Reproduce:

Add a power to a new character
Click Add modifiers
Switch to limitations
Select Charges
Select Clips
Select Increased Reloading Time
See the Clips count drop to 1, and the total value of the limitation is incorrect.


If you click repeatedly on the arrow to increase the number of clips, the number eventually increases, but unpredictably based on what number of charges and other options you have chosen. The total value of the limitation also changes in inconsistent ways as you try to add clips.

Once it starts increasing, it does not necessarily do so in a consistent way.

Sometimes when clicking to increase the number of clips, a number flashes briefly, and then is replaced by 1.

archermoo
Feb 23rd, '07, 08:54 AM
Some extra notes on this:

If you crank up the number of clips, eventually it does start upping the number of clips. For example, you have a power with 1 charge for a -2 limitation. Then select Clips (defaulting to 2) and the limitation drops to -1 1/2. Select Increased Reloading Time and the number of Clips drops to 1 and the overall limitation is -2 1/4. Which is actually correct for a single clip. :) Currently, Clips displays as 1 at a +1/2. Once you crank it up to +1 1/2 it jumps to 2 clips, and has the correct overall limitation of -1 3/4. And as you scale up the number of Clips it continues to figure the overall limitation correctly, it just doesn't show the correct modifier for the Clips, and requires you crank it up pretty high to get it to go above 1 clip.

Edit: If you add increased recovery time, it scales up even further before it starts figuring the Clips correctly. With Charges Never Recover it doesn't seem to ever work. If you scale it up high enough it eventually figures a -128 for the Clips.

Simon
Feb 23rd, '07, 10:15 AM
Just re-uploaded the last update (should fix the issue).

Unless folks want a LONG FRAKKING RANT about the rediculously poorly-thought-out/implemented concept that is Charges in the Hero System, I would suggest not reporting anything else about them for quite some time.