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Monolith
Jul 13th, '03, 06:46 PM
Sorry if the question has been asked before (I have been away from the computer for quite some time). I was just wondering what was going on with this module? Is it still on track for a Gen Con release or has it been delayed? I did not see anything about it in the news sections giving any indication one way or another.

rjcurrie
Jul 13th, '03, 07:25 PM
It will definitely not make Gencon, and I believe Darren mentioned an end of August/early September release date at Origins. But consider none of this as official as there has been no new release date officially mentioned.

Killer Shrike
Jul 13th, '03, 07:36 PM
Thats to bad, but death, taxes, and missed production schedules are all difficult fiends to beat.

Whenever it comes out Im sure itll be great....

rjcurrie
Jul 13th, '03, 10:13 PM
You have to remember, of course, that delays were more likely to occur on this product due to the added difficulties of two companies working together. Not necessarily due to any problems between the two companies, but just that when you have two or more separate groups of any kind involved in a single project, things can sometimes take a little longer for various reasons.

Steve Long
Jul 14th, '03, 05:14 AM
RS has been delayed a bit due to logistical issues, the pressures of the summer con season, etc. It'll probably be out late August or September; we'll keep you posted as we have more info.

Monolith
Jul 14th, '03, 06:07 AM
Thanks everyone. I assumed it would be delayed for most of the reasons Rod mentioned, not to mention the fact that everyone at both companies are just busy people. Anyway, the delay will give my post vacation dollars a chance to multiply. :)

Armitage
Jul 14th, '03, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by Killer Shrike
Thats to bad, but death, taxes, and missed production schedules are all difficult fiends to beat.

Whenever it comes out Im sure itll be great....

And considering the "release schedule" (cough) of the pre-5th Dark Era, a brief delay is really nothing to complain about.

Killer Shrike
Jul 15th, '03, 01:19 AM
Originally posted by Armitage
And considering the "release schedule" (cough) of the pre-5th Dark Era, a brief delay is really nothing to complain about. Indeed.

SAVeira
Jul 16th, '03, 02:55 PM
For those who are interested the artist who did the Reality Storm cover has posted a it here: http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?threadid=60765

Killer Shrike
Jul 16th, '03, 03:26 PM
Wow. Thats gorgeous! Hmm...methinks DOJ should solicit that artist for some covers hereafter.....:D

Darren Watts
Jul 16th, '03, 04:19 PM
I assume KS is kidding, but for those not in the know the cover is by our own beloved Chris Stevens, who also did the covers for Millennium City and the forthcoming Battlegrounds. dw

Killer Shrike
Jul 16th, '03, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Darren Watts
I assume KS is kidding, but for those not in the know the cover is by our own beloved Chris Stevens, who also did the covers for Millennium City and the forthcoming Battlegrounds. dw Yeah, I was kidding ;) I love this guys style, btw....He even makes Black Harley look cool ;)

Steve Long
Jul 16th, '03, 05:22 PM
Chris is also doing the cover for The Fantasy Hero Grimoire. It is definitely Way Wifty, as the kids would say.

Vondy
Jul 16th, '03, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by Steve Long
Chris is also doing the cover for The Fantasy Hero Grimoire. It is definitely Way Wifty, as the kids would say.

This will probably be the make or break book for me in terms of deciding whether or not I buy it AND fantasy hero.

The time involved with working out the mechanics of the magic iand writing spells is the primary (not only, but primary) reason I don't use Hero for Fantasy.

Will it include spells for more subtle and ritual types of magic?

Steve Long
Jul 17th, '03, 03:08 AM
There are some rituals in the FHG, but relatively few. OTOH, using the rules for ritual magic in FH itself, adapting any of the appropriate spells into rituals would be a snap.

As for the subtlety of magic, that's something that has to be left to each GM in terms of how he creates his world, plans and runs his campaign, and so forth. You could use the FHG, or at least some of it, in a subtle magic world like Middle-earth, but veerrry carefully. Almost by definition, such an extensive collection of spells tends to argue against subtlety in the magic system -- subtle magic systems don't need thousands of spells.

If you want to see subtle Hero magic in published form, you'll probably have to wait for the Tuala Morn setting. Since I can create the entire setting and magic system from scratch, I can arrange it to have the "feel" and level of subtlety that is appropriate to the setting.

Vondy
Jul 17th, '03, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by Steve Long

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If you want to see subtle Hero magic in published form, you'll probably have to wait for the Tuala Morn setting. Since I can create the entire setting and magic system from scratch, I can arrange it to have the "feel" and level of subtlety that is appropriate to the setting.

I'll keep my eye out for it.

Thanks.

lemming
Jul 17th, '03, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by Steve Long
It is definitely Way Wifty, as the kids would say.
Hmm, Way Wifty sounds more like a decription of a litter box in need of changing to me. Wifty just seems closer to wiffy than nifty to me.

Then again I'm not a kid. I think groovy might be a term I could understand. :)

Lord Liaden
Jul 17th, '03, 12:47 PM
I can't keep up with the latest youthspeak - it seems to change almost from year to year.

I just stick with "cool." That's been timeless since Benny Goodman. ;)

(And if you have to ask who Benny Goodman is, I don't wanna hear it.) :mad:

Killer Shrike
Jul 17th, '03, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by Lord Liaden
I can't keep up with the latest youthspeak - it seems to change almost from year to year.

I just stick with "cool." That's been timeless since Benny Goodman. ;)

(And if you have to ask who Benny Goodman is, I don't wanna hear it.) :mad: No, really, who is Benny Goodman? A jazz performer or something?

Lord Liaden
Jul 17th, '03, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by Killer Shrike
No, really, who is Benny Goodman? A jazz performer or something?

What did I just say? :rolleyes:

Oh well, for the sake of cultural enlightenment:

Goodman, Benjamin David (1909-1986), American jazz clarinetist and band leader, and a great popularizer of what was called "hot" music. In 1934 he organized his own orchestra, and by 1936 the orchestra was featured in weekly radio broadcasts, making it one of the most popular jazz bands in the U.S.

Goodman's musical style was known as "swing", which became one of the dominant forms of popular music in the '30's and '40's; Goodman was known as the "king of swing." His autobiography, The Kingdom of Swing was published in 1939, and he was portrayed by Steve Allen in the film The Benny Goodman Story in 1956. I think those dates give some indication of how strong his influence was

Benny Goodman was also well known for his skill at performing works by classical composers such as Mozart.

Killer Shrike
Jul 19th, '03, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by Lord Liaden
What did I just say? :rolleyes:

Uh....I was only joking LL. My grandfather was a huge jazz and swing fan before he died about 12 years ago. He used to listen to it all the time when I was a kid. ;)

Your Agent Elrond avatar is making you cranky I think. You were much happier as a floating cosmic head. :D

Lord Liaden
Jul 19th, '03, 05:43 PM
Fret not, KS, I answered your question at length so I couldn't have been too cranky. :p Your dad had good taste.

And the Cosmic Head will return one day - watch the skies... :cool:

Killer Shrike
Jul 19th, '03, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by Lord Liaden
Your dad had good taste. GRAND dad. My dads only 57 -- he probably doesnt know who Benny Goodman is either (-jk; he was a DJ/Program Director/Concert Promoter for 30 odd years -- he probably met the guy at some point ;))

FlashFighter
Jul 25th, '03, 01:19 PM
As much as a musical genius Goodman was (I'm a fan of Calloway too), I'll bring this thread back on topic.... Pushed back to OCTOBER???????? :-( I need this book now..... I need a scapegoat here...... ah.... Champions Battlegrounds.... DAMN YOUSE CHAMPIONS BATTLEGROUNDS...... DAMN YOUSE!

VictorVonDoom
Jul 27th, '03, 10:22 AM
what is a) a Reality storm?
b) Fantasy Grimmoire book?

Monolith
Jul 27th, '03, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by VictorVonDoom
what is a) a Reality storm?
http://pub175.ezboard.com/fguardiansoforder44269frm0.showMessage?topicID=36. topic


b) Fantasy Grimmoire book?
www.herogames.com/Products/fantasyhero.htm

VictorVonDoom
Jul 27th, '03, 02:07 PM
yeah right but is the meaning of it?

Monolith
Jul 27th, '03, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by VictorVonDoom
yeah right but is the meaning of it?
I guess it means there is a storm causing a rift between two realities and the heroes from both dimensions need to work together to stop the villains involved. The link seemed fairly straight forward to me.

Killer Shrike
Jul 28th, '03, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by Monolith
I guess it means there is a storm causing a rift between two realities and the heroes from both dimensions need to work together to stop the villains involved. The link seemed fairly straight forward to me. Reality = the rules of the universe. Storm = a lot of chaotic activity.

Reality + Storm = Time is not absolute, universes collide, all bets are off, and we have a huge comic summer cross-over style amalgam between the Champions Universe and another popular Superheroic RPG.

Fantasy = imaginary; in this context Tolkein-esque proto-history with magic, elves and dwarves, and what not.

Grimoire: A word meaning a book of hidden knowledge; most usually a spellbook.

Thus in this context Fantasy + Grimoire = Book of spells (ie power constructs) for a Fantasy HERO game. Similar to the USPD for Champions -- a big book of prebuilt power contructs with scalable options for the system-inept and non-number crunchers among us. Great for saving time and bringing in new players.

VictorVonDoom
Jul 29th, '03, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by Killer Shrike
Reality = the rules of the universe. Storm = a lot of chaotic activity.

Reality + Storm = Time is not absolute, universes collide, all bets are off, and we have a huge comic summer cross-over style amalgam between the Champions Universe and another popular Superheroic RPG.



hmm i don't see any comic coming this lifetime
:(
oh it is a figure of speech :)

Killer Shrike
Jul 29th, '03, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by VictorVonDoom
hmm i don't see any comic coming this lifetime
:(
oh it is a figure of speech :) "huge comic summer cross-over style amalgam "

As in LIKE IN COMIC BOOKS, not as in IT IS A COMIC BOOK

VictorVonDoom
Jul 29th, '03, 07:34 AM
i knew...i was jk :)