The Next Super-hero Franchise they should think about [Archive]

BarryB

Feb 21st, '03, 06:38 AM

I cast my vote for Captain America. Unlike Thirdbase, I think it should be done with a revived Steve Rogers. Dramatically, he would be the "outsider" who can comment on the good and the bad of modern society.

Pair Cap with a Joe Average who has to show Cap the ropes of today's society. Make Joe a guy who embodies a lot of the moral relativism, cynicism, and post-modern irony of modern America. He has to be average and he has to be likeable.

Make the Red Skull the villain (though he's disguised through most of the movie) and make his message (whatever it is) appealing in the beginning so Joe finds himself agreeing with it. It's up to Cap to stop the Skull and show his message for the poison it is. Cap shows that it's the Skull, not himself, who is the anachronism.

By the end of the movie, Joe believes, but don't make his quick and simplistic. If the movie is to be successful, Joe's beliefs at the end of the movie should be brighter, closer to Cap's, but not stupidly so.

ZootSoot

Feb 21st, '03, 06:49 AM

Too Much Coffee Man!!!!

Acroyear

Feb 21st, '03, 07:10 AM

There is a FF movie planned (although I think current plans are for a comedy!). Iron Man, too. Iron Fist, as well (Ray Park has the role).

I think the Question would make for a good flick... except they'd have him without the mask more than 90% of the time because no actor would go for it...so the actual movie would end up sucking.

mattingly

Feb 21st, '03, 07:23 AM

The Tick!

"I say to you, knock off all that evil!"

FlyBoy

Feb 21st, '03, 08:14 AM

I would kill to see Catherine Zeta-Jones as Wonder Woman. She wouldn't have to do anything but stand there in the costume for two hours...

FlyBoy

Feb 21st, '03, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by Superskrull
Heard a rumor about Sandra Bullock and I'm hoping that's not the case.

I've heard that one, and I've heard an even scarier one:
Mariah Carey.

Brrr...

Boll Weevil

Feb 21st, '03, 08:48 AM

I voted Avengers but I would also like to see a real Fantastic Four picture.

tiger

Feb 21st, '03, 09:04 AM

Let's see They'r making Hulk, Iron Man, FF, Xmen 2, Spider 2 & 3 and a Punisher.

Avenger, or Cap would be good Marvels

Wonder Woman, JLA would be neat to see. They're surpose to be fighting of Superman remakes and Batman. Hard to tell how that will go.

Hermit

Feb 21st, '03, 09:08 AM

Wish I could do multiple choice.
If Captain America were done right, it could be awesome. The options are great. We could have the first movie be based almost entirely in WW2, and end with him frozen and floating. Make the audience give a damn about Steve, then thaw him out in a strange cynical modern world in the sequel.

Heck, you could still have the Avengers be the ones to do it (If you don't get snarred too much in legal mumbo jumbo of who can use which character). See which of THEM fans like, and consider branching out if they'd like you to.

Now, that said, and Marvel fan that I am, I want to gather all the little DC/WB execs and have them repeat after me:
"We have more than Superman and Batman in our stable."
"We have more than Superman and Batman in our stable."
VERY good.

Really, last I checked, attractive women who kick butt for right were still popular with many of us. Dust off Wonder Woman, stay true to her concept, get Linda Carter cast as Hypolita, and bring the Amazonian Princess to the big screen.

The Green Lantern. We have the tools, we have the technology, we have the CGI ;) What's more, since the ring is passed around in the comics, we can have our cake and eat it to. Start out with Hal Jordan, and then if that actor wants out, you can have later movies bring in Stewart or Raynor. Heck, this would also make a cool TV series.

Anyone recall the Flash TV series? That rocked. The FX at the time were expensive. I bet they could cut it down a little now adays.

Chaosliege

Feb 21st, '03, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by Klytus
Gimme Green Lantern! With the computer graphics they have nowadays, they can SO do the power ring effects as they ought to be done.

I agree Green Lantern would be a great movie, if done right. Personaly, while I'd like to see Captian America redone, There just isn't much they can do, besides improve the acting. I also heard that an Iron Man movie was in the works and can't wait to see that. All of the movies on the list have merit, but I want to see the one that is going to make people say "wow I can't wait till they make another comic into a movie". They did it with Spiderman. They did it with X-Men. And with the first Batman, And the first Superman. Punisher, Captain America Killed whatever interest there was at the time they came out.

My vote..... Avengers.. If it were done right, it would have great fan apeal. That way you could show Cap as he is meant to be, the ultimate tactition and team leader. Plus the team has had soo many members over the years, the makers would have an endless suply of material to work with. Not to mention many of the members have pretty cool powers that would look killer on the big screen..

My second vote would go to GL.This is a CGI dream. If they get the right actor instead of just sticking the "stud of the week" in the role, this movie could be phenominal.

Third on my list is the F4.. NOT a Comedy, please.... They show such potential, dont ruin it by making it a comedy. A little comedy relief, sure.. But not just a strait comedy. That would definately spell the end of "Comics to movies" for another 10 years...

Hermit

Feb 21st, '03, 09:39 AM

Can't believe I forgot this one.
The Doctor is in!
Another one that CGI could help, I would love to see the story of Stephen Strange on the big screen and done well. I'd love to see the arrogant doctor find humility, and a higher calling. If they were clever, they could really play up the difference between reality as we know it, and the hidden worlds pressing through the cracks that Doc has to hold back.

Besides, what actor who loves playing the bad guy wouldn't want to play a guy named 'Baron Mordo"? :D

SuperPheemy

Feb 21st, '03, 10:02 AM

My wife and I had a discussion over how to do a Captain America movie after watching Daredevil (on Valentine's Day no less, gotta love Geek Romance).

I think it could work wonderfully, with Cap being thawed early in the film and having to come to grips with the postmodern cynicism of the 21st century. If he was a man out of time twenty years after the fact (being thawed out in the early '60s), then the shock of the loss of national innocense from 1945-2003 could make for deep characterization.

Or it could make for cheap laffs, which I would not put past the Hollywood Machine.

Heck, you could explore the "Nomad" saga of the late 70s and the US Agent/ Gyrich stories of the late 80s in sequels, thus giving an overall theme that Captain America's most dangerous enemy is a government that opposes the ideals he fought for in 1945.

And he can beat up Batroc in the meantime.

dbsousa

Feb 21st, '03, 11:19 AM

I have to vote for Cap as well, but I don't want to see him leave the 40's. I would like to see a Cap movie that felt like an Indiana Jones movie...

Kevin Scrivner

Feb 21st, '03, 11:37 AM

Much as I like the characters and teams listed in the poll, Hollywood tends to do a better job with superheroes that are less well known. Think about the Rocketeer and Phantom movies compared to the later Batman/Superman or the Punisher and Captain America films. With a more obscure hero, the producers apparently have less incentive to play around with the back story or mock the source material. Also, low or no powered heroes seem to come across better because the film makers can concentrate on story and character development rather than special effects and gizmos.

Also, some characters work best if they're kept in period. Wonder Woman, for instance, works best during World War II. I can't image The Spirit or Green Hornet in any era past the early Fifties.

We've had several movies about individual heroes. I'd like to see a team movie but with a small enough team that each character gets developed. One of the weaknesses of "X-Men" is that they briefly introduced the whole staff then focused almost exclusively on Wolverine and Rogue. I'd like to see the Fantastic Four but am not confident that our SPX are up to it. Or if they are, the effects would dominate the movie rather than the characters.

With these thoughts in mind, what are your picks?

I'd lean toward a "Power Pack" movie with a plot based on the Snark Wars story arc. It would have Harry Potter-like appeal for younger viewers, cash in on the Star Wars renaissance, and would present fresh heroes that haven't been done before. The characters' powers aren't so bizarre that they'd tax the SPX department. And the Pack's accidental involvement in galactic poltical intrigue has enough complexity to interest adults.

TheEmerged

Feb 21st, '03, 02:07 PM

I voted for WW, although I have to say that I'd *love* to see the Confessions arc of Astro City done as a TV miniseries (too long to do right in a movie).

Sandra Bullock expressed interest in the show -- as long she didn't have to wear the costume, and there was none of this Paradise Island mythology stuff (paraphrasing). There was a script that did the rounds that was clearly geared to trying to please her, and the last I heard was that she'd turned it down (which is a good thing, because the script I read suckethed).

A number of other female actresses have expressed interest in the role -- the vastest majority of which (Mariah Carrey and Brittney Spears -- no that last one isn't a joke, remember she's naturally black haired) are woefully inappropriate. Certain others that might be considered appropriate (Lucy Lawless and the woman that played Chyna in the WWE) have "expressed interest" but have other difficulties (usually contractual).

There's a RUMOR, and I want to emphasize RUMOR that CTZ is personally very interested in the role but her husband is strongly against it.

There are also a couple of other, lesser names that have been brought up. The woman from Heavy Metal 2 being one that I know has made appearances in the outfit but has some rather obvious things against her. There is another "up and coming" actress that has recieved some attention -- even meeting with the producers at one point -- after being selected in an internet poll on the subject (the name "Jordan Bayne" keeps coming to mind, but somehow I don't think that's it -- possibly that's the Heavy Metal 2 actress?). Haven't heard anything after that.

Personally, I think you're going to have trouble finding a woman who

a> can act
b> is tall enough (minimum 5'10")
c> sufficiently athletic
d> sufficiently attractive
e> AND has the proper mindset for the role.

After all that, you'll need a script that actually works -- something you can't take for granted with all the extremes of this character.

Pull it off? You'll have a great movie.

Hermit

Feb 21st, '03, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by TheEmerged
I voted for WW, although I have to say that I'd *love* to see the Confessions arc of Astro City done as a TV miniseries (too long to do right in a movie).

Sandra Bullock expressed interest in the show -- as long she didn't have to wear the costume, and there was none of this Paradise Island mythology stuff (paraphrasing). There was a script that did the rounds that was clearly geared to trying to please her, and the last I heard was that she'd turned it down (which is a good thing, because the script I read suckethed).

Ack, if that's her mindset, (No costume, no paradise island) I am glad she's out of the running.

It's sad, because Wonder Woman could match or even better Cap for a 'fish out of water' scenerio. From Paradise Island to "the world of man"? The potiental for humor as well as action are endless without making it a gag. By removing Thermasyra from it, they cut out part of the soul of the character.

Maybe Eliza Dushku?

ShinDangaioh

Feb 21st, '03, 02:50 PM

I would like to see a Shazam! Capatian Marvel or maybe even the Metal Men.

Hermit

Feb 21st, '03, 02:53 PM

If we're doing a wish list of smaller name heroes that most have forgotten... how about a Sci Fi movie
"Rom: Space Knight" :)

Superskrull

Feb 21st, '03, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by TheEmerged
There are also a couple of other, lesser names that have been brought up. The woman from Heavy Metal 2 being one that I know has made appearances in the outfit but has some rather obvious things against her.

That's Julie Strain. She's one of the B-queens of the movies and married Kevin Eastman, one of the two creators of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and owner of Heavy Metal.

Chaosliege

Feb 21st, '03, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Hermit
If we're doing a wish list of smaller name heroes that most have forgotten... how about a Sci Fi movie
"Rom: Space Knight" :)

Ok, if we're going to go that far, why not just do Space Ghost? :D

Nucleon

Feb 21st, '03, 05:21 PM

I'm surprised nobody brought up Iron Man.

He would fit particularly well in today's cinematic vision of a comic book hero. Cimematically visual armor (every design, or many variations, would do), a bit of international intrigue, some beautiful women and hi-tech toys.

It would be especially nice if that was filmed big, Ã* la Independance day. Imagine a shot of SHIELD's Heli-carrier. Spymaster and the War Machine armor could make great vilains too.

Hermit

Feb 21st, '03, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by Nucleon
I'm surprised nobody brought up Iron Man.

He would fit particularly well in today's cinematic vision of a comic book hero. Cimematically visual armor (every design, or many variations, would do), a bit of international intrigue, some beautiful women and hi-tech toys.

It would be especially nice if that was filmed big, Ã* la Independance day. Imagine a shot of SHIELD's Heli-carrier. Spymaster and the War Machine armor could make great vilains too.
It's in the works, and they are shooting for 2005. No actor selected yet :)

bcholmes

Feb 21st, '03, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by Patriot
We know The Incredible Hulk is on the way, but who do you think they should work on next?

Some of my picks:

The Watchmen.

Powers.

Starman.

Miracle Man.

The Authority.

death tribble

Feb 27th, '03, 07:56 AM

Wow ! Opinion is really divided.

Saw the last Captain America film. Awful !

I think they'll do Wonder Woman as there was the series so again it is established. I mean Batman, Superman, Spiderman were all established first on TV as cartoons or live action series.
And Hollywood looks at those sorts of thigs first cf Scooby Doo and the Addams Family, Lost in Space and The Beverley Hillbillies.

I would like to see them try The Watchmen though.

As to who will play Wonder Woman, Bullock would like to do it but lacks the physique. Linda Carter had the physique for the TV series. The other person who is lobbying for the part is Joanne Laurier aka the wrestler Chyna. She 's got the physique for it, if not the beauty.

FlyBoy

Feb 27th, '03, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by bcholmes
Some of my picks:
Starman.

Rumor has it that a Starman TV series is in the planning stages at ABC, by the same production company that gave us "Smallville" (yay) and "Birds of Prey" (boo).

Champsguy

Feb 27th, '03, 11:22 AM

I'd love a Cap movie, but they'd need to keep him in WW2. The first one has to be an origin story, and there's too much potential for him fighting nazis to jump him right to the modern day. You could end it with the death of Bucky and getting frozen (Good idea, whoever suggested that!).

But I don't quite trust the studios to get the costume right. The movie I wanna see (and I'm in the minority here) is your friendly neighborhood God of Thunder.

You've got so much opportunity for special effects, even the thinnest of plots could work. Don't you wanna see Thor slap around some fire giants? Surtur would look cool as hell on the big screen (as long as they dropped some money on the thing). Not to mention that snake. Aglar and I might have to do some penis-modeling for the producers just so they could envision something that long (that's one advantage to being redneck).

Hermit

Feb 27th, '03, 11:29 AM

Thor could be cool, but I can just imagine some reactions.
Fundamentalist Christian groups might get in a rage about this for a 'children's' movie'. Completely unaware that the darn comic has been around for decades, thanks.
Pagan groups and intellectuals who study mythos might insist that 'no no no, Thor is a redhead!'
And of course, Hollywood would be tempted to do it's own "dynamic, new, and contemporary revamp!" which , until recently, meant creating a character who was nothing like the old in origin, personality, or costume. Thank goodness the trend went the other way.
But it could always fall back.
Batcostumes with nipples-Never again.

Nucleon

Feb 27th, '03, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by Hermit
(Iron Man movie)It's in the works, and they are shooting for 2005. No actor selected yet :)

YES! GREAT!

I didn't hear about that in Wizard...do you have some details? Sources? Anything?

Huh?

:cool:

Blackout

Feb 27th, '03, 06:51 PM

Oh, c'mon! Forget about all those other chumps! The ONLY character that deserves the mega-budget silver screen treatment is Ambush Bug!

A few random comments...

Someone voted for Aquaman? Aquaman? The guy talks to fish! Hmmm. Maybe they could get Charlie the Tuna to be his sidekick.:D Just kidding. Kinda. I like Aquaman to a point. Just as long as they don't do the piranha-chewed-off-hand-with-a-hook-in-its-place version.

Here's an interesting Aquaman tidbit. In the Robert Heinlein book Starship Troopers (first published in 1959), Rico goes through basic training at Camp Arthur Currie, and the first appearance of Aquaman was in Adventure Comics # 260 (give or take) published in 1959. So, is this a coincidence?

(Totally unrelated... Rex Stout's Nero Wolfe has a "sidekick" named Archie Goodwin, and one of the best comic book editors of all time was a guy named Archie Goodwin. I don't have a clue when Stout's books first came out, or when editor Archie was born. Another coincidence?)

Someone mentioned Dr. Strange. I think that could be fantastic (not as good as Ambush Bug, mind you)! Anyone other than me out there remember the Dr. Strange TV movie from the 70's? That was actually pretty well done, as far as I remember it - not having seen it since then.

Hermit

Feb 27th, '03, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by Blackout

Someone mentioned Dr. Strange. I think that could be fantastic (not as good as Ambush Bug, mind you)! Anyone other than me out there remember the Dr. Strange TV movie from the 70's? That was actually pretty well done, as far as I remember it - not having seen it since then.
I've seen it, it was cheesy in its way, but not bad. I still kept expecting the Bee Gees to pop up and do mystical chants...

;)

Mutant for Hire

Feb 27th, '03, 07:34 PM

John Constantine, Hellblazer.

Hermit

Feb 27th, '03, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by Nucleon
YES! GREAT!

I didn't hear about that in Wizard...do you have some details? Sources? Anything?

Huh?

:cool:

I believe Super Hero Hype has some good tid bits.
This article is promising...
of course, this is just what they are HOPING for, nothing in stone
http://www.superherohype.com/cgi-bin/news/ironman.cgi?newsid1045116926,85384,

wcw43921

Feb 28th, '03, 07:13 PM

My understanding is that there was the possibility of a Wonder Woman series on NBC a few years ago, and Julie Strain was being considered for the part, but lost out because she had posed for Penthouse, and DC didn't want someone who had posed nude. Which is a shame because she definitely looks the part.

I would imagine this also rules out Joanne "Chynna" Laurer, because she's posed for Playboy.

That leaves Catherine Zeta-Jones and Lucy Lawless. Both are good choices, but of the two I would go with Lucy; the thing is she might see it as Xena in a different outfit, and decide she's had enough of that, so it would be a struggle to persuade her to accept. Catherine, while a match in appearance for the character, doesn't strike me as that athletically inclined; she'd need either a whole lot of training, or a whole army of stuntwomen to make her believable.

Now I wouldn't mind seeing Elisa Dushku as a pre-WW Diana on an episode of Smallville--but that may just be me obsessing about Elisa Dushku.

Black Rose

Feb 28th, '03, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by Mutant for Hire
John Constantine, Hellblazer.

Oh Hell yeah! This would be great! Thing is, who would you get to play John? I have my opinions, but I will keep them to myself.

Originally posted by wcw43921
I wouldn't mind seeing Elisa Dushku as a pre-WW Diana on an episode of Smallville--but that may just be me obsessing about Elisa Dushku.

You say that like it's a bad thing. How can it be wrong to think about Eliza and her flashing eyes?

Hermit

Feb 28th, '03, 08:00 PM

I really wish DC would stop pushing Superman and Batman for a bit, they have so much to choose from beyond just that.

Heck, even Aquaman could be cool...
*Waits for the flames* :)

Blackout

Feb 28th, '03, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by Black Rose
Oh Hell yeah! This would be great! Thing is, who would you get to play John? I have my opinions, but I will keep them to myself.

Keifer (Kiefer?) Sutherland would be my first choice.

Richard Logue

Feb 28th, '03, 10:02 PM

Brendan Fraser as Wally West Flash

Jim Carrey as Plastic-Man

Terry Bradshaw as Captain America

st barbara

Mar 1st, '03, 01:23 AM

I would like to see a big screen version of "The Watchmen". Failing that , maybe "Titans" (seing that the comic has just finished, at least in its current form). If I am forced to have "Marvel" characters, what about "Thunderbolts" ?

Kevin Scrivner

Mar 1st, '03, 08:39 AM

Jennifer Connelly as Wonder Woman?

She has the looks. She has the acting skills. Sure, she's tended to play the vulnerable girlfriend in movies such as "The Rocketeer" and "Dark City" and the upcoming "Hulk" but she looks a lot like the George Perez version to me. She can kick butt because she's magic not because she's buff.

Mutant for Hire

Mar 1st, '03, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by Black Rose
Oh Hell yeah! This would be great! Thing is, who would you get to play John? I have my opinions, but I will keep them to myself.

Well, the character was originally modelled after Sting, but unfortunately he's a bit long in the tooth now.

Tamashii2000

Mar 1st, '03, 11:04 AM

Actualy, You know what Franchise I would love to see - its not from DC or Marvel

A big budget doing of the Legend of the Knight Sabers.

otherwise known as the bubblegum crisis.

st barbara

Mar 1st, '03, 01:07 PM

While we are daydreaming about comics to film might I suggest Death ! I can't think of who would play Sandman's older sister mind you, but i'd love to see her on film !

DoctorItron

Mar 1st, '03, 01:34 PM

My vote went to "Other (Marvel)". I'm thinking of the Fantastic Four.

My casting choice for The Thing would be George Foreman. He has the right build for it and is a natural at making wisecracks.

Glen Sprigg

Mar 1st, '03, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by Kevin Scrivner
I'd lean toward a "Power Pack" movie with a plot based on the Snark Wars story arc. It would have Harry Potter-like appeal for younger viewers, cash in on the Star Wars renaissance, and would present fresh heroes that haven't been done before. The characters' powers aren't so bizarre that they'd tax the SPX department. And the Pack's accidental involvement in galactic poltical intrigue has enough complexity to interest adults.

I'd like to quote an excerpt from something I wrote for my local comic shop's inaugural newsletter nearly eight years ago:

Once upon a time, Marvel Comics came up with a concept that changed the world of comic-book heroes forever. Four people were granted a miracle, and with that miracle came power greater than any humans had ever possessed. They took an oath to use their powers for good, to save the world, and to help mankind.

Their adventures were usually down to earth, but sometimes they went beyond our small planet, into the outer reaches of the unknown. They also met several alien races, and often encountered other beings of great power, both on and off the Earth.

Their powers were truly incredible; even fantastic. They were led by the eldest, who had a keen, scientific mind which many times saved the day, almost as often as their powers. The youngest was a being of great destructive potential, with a temper to match. Another could strike powerful blows against their foes, who often feared his power the most. He also was hot-tempered, and often argued with the youngest. And the fourth member of the team often found herself in the role of the mother-figure. They were more than a team, they were a family, and loved each other very much. Of course, as all close families tend to do, they fought amongst themselves almost as much as they helped others.

Of course, not all their time could be spent just helping others and coping with ordinary life. They also had enemies to fight, just as all superheroes do. They fought the Mad Thinker, the Ringmaster, Mysterio, the Hobgoblin, the Morlocks, a minion of the alien Collector, and even the evil Doctor Doom took an interest in them. They met Dragon Man, and someone who should have ruled under the waves. They even encountered Galactus, the world-eater.

But they did not carry the fight alone; there were others who did assist them in their fight for good. Spider-Man was among the first heroes they met, and others would follow: the Uncanny X-Men, the Mighty Avengers, X-Factor, the New Mutants, Thor and the Warriors Three, Beta Ray Bill, Cloak and Dagger.

Even with their great powers, they remained, at their core, human. And their stories made us care deeply about each and every single one of them. Sometimes they got sick, or perhaps they suffered through the near-loss of a loved one. And as they learned more about their powers and themselves, they became more and more confident, learning new abilities, refining old ones, and inspiring thousands of loyal readers.

And they haven't even reached puberty yet!
(What?)
Of course, as you must have realized from the very beginning, I'm talking about one of the most amazing comic books ever written: Power Pack!

Oh, did you think I was talking about Reed Richards and his little group?

*****

Anyway, I'd LOVE to see a Power Pack movie done properly. It's a great concept, one that would definitely surprise a lot of people.

Glen

ShadowRaptor

Mar 1st, '03, 10:36 PM

I voted for Green Lantern because Green Lantern is just that cool, but my second vote would actually be for Ghost Rider, which is one they are working on a script for.

I do know they are planning on releasing Superman in '04, and they do have Anthony Hopkins signed for superman's father (that is the guy that played Hannibal, right???????). And the idea for the future Superman movies is a real trilogy of movies, not just one shots like the previous ones.

I have heard rumors of scripts being worked on for these also: Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, a new Batman: Year Zero, Fantastic Four, Iron Man, X-Men 3, Spider Man 2 & 3, and Blade 3 (they need Morbius in it). I have no knowledge at all about any Capt. America or Avengers, but those would also be cool.

Brutal

Mar 2nd, '03, 07:11 PM

I'd hate to break your hearts fellows, and pardon the pun. But really being a non-american I cant even believe what kind of SUPER-MEGA-patriotism that would come with a Captain america movie. You might as well just show the stars and strikes for 2 hours with some nice music :p *irony*

Seriously though, I dont mean to flame any possible americans on this board, but I find it VERY hard to see a possible captain america movie being successful outside the united states. As far as I know, the captain america comic book was never published in sweden. X-men was quite popular (allthough not as popular as in the USA) since we get alot of that published in sweden, same with spidey and the hulk of course.

Rage

Mar 2nd, '03, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by Chaosliege
Ok, if we're going to go that far, why not just do Space Ghost? :D

It'd have to be Coast to Coast though, and Brak has to be in their too.

Hee heeeeeee Ted Turner did good for once.

Dynamo

Mar 3rd, '03, 07:20 AM

Foxbat. With a follow-on animated series.

JohnathanChance

Mar 3rd, '03, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by Tamashii2000
Actualy, You know what Franchise I would love to see - its not from DC or Marvel

A big budget doing of the Legend of the Knight Sabers.

otherwise known as the bubblegum crisis.

The Knight Sabers would be pretty cool, but they would end up murdering the names..Have you ever seen the original series dvds in english....if you haven't, I pray that you never do, if you have I pray for your soul. They were horrible dub jobs.

Hermit

Mar 3rd, '03, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by Brutal
I'd hate to break your hearts fellows, and pardon the pun. But really being a non-american I cant even believe what kind of SUPER-MEGA-patriotism that would come with a Captain america movie. You might as well just show the stars and strikes for 2 hours with some nice music :p *irony*

Seriously though, I dont mean to flame any possible americans on this board, but I find it VERY hard to see a possible captain america movie being successful outside the united states. As far as I know, the captain america comic book was never published in sweden. X-men was quite popular (allthough not as popular as in the USA) since we get alot of that published in sweden, same with spidey and the hulk of course.

It probably wouldn't do as well, but if you make a good movie period, people overseas might be interested anyways. Lord knows, sometimes Cap ends up facing jingoistic nutbars who claim to be on the same side as he is, and there have been times he's defied the U.S. Government in order to stay loyal to the American Dream.

Also, I think this would be another reason to base the first Captain America movie in World War II. Putting it back fifty years ago in Europe might fly over better (Well, except maybe in Germany, I think the Germans get tired of being the bad guys) than a modern day one. If you get enough folks to like Cap in the first movie set in WW2, they might come to see the sequel set in modern day.

Or, we could always make "Captain Britain: the movie"
For that matter, Alpha Flight, Hugh Jackman could do a cameo. :)

Mutant for Hire

Mar 3rd, '03, 03:11 PM

Actually, if we skip live action and go for a CGI cartoon, I'd love to see Stanley and his Monster done.

KA.

Mar 3rd, '03, 09:50 PM

Patriot

Mar 3rd, '03, 10:07 PM

Two People;
The Girl from the rosanne tv show (the broody moppy one)
or (forgive me I gaurantee im gonna butcher this one)

Janeane Garofalo...If she can be serious

Willpower

Mar 3rd, '03, 11:40 PM

Ok, I just voted Green Lantern because that wouldbe a SFX spectacular today. Needless to say I was apalled that Captain America is winning this. I really like Captain America, and would love a really good movie for him, but have none of you ever seen the hogwash that was done before? Captain America doesn't need modern special effects to make him work and has been done over and over again in series, and movies, and NEVER has there been a decent job done with it. Even when given a decent budget a Cap movie just never comes out good. I think it is just one of those ideas that don't transfer well from comic to movie.

ShadowRaptor

Mar 4th, '03, 01:10 PM

Not aimed at totally side-treking the entire conversation but I was reading that for the next superman they were considering Branden Frasier as the roll for clark kent and superman. Personally, bad choice.

I also think that capt america is getting more votes than he normally would've gotten based on recent events. Still, if it was done well I would like to see that movie redone.

Hermit

Mar 4th, '03, 01:15 PM

I think it's partially because Captain America was handled so slopily in the past that many of his fans want to see him "done right this time."

An Italian Red Skull... I don't think I can ever forgive them for that...

But I digress, a Green Lantern would also be VERY cool, and there would even be a logical reason to change actors from time to time (Hal first 3 movies, John Stewart one... Kyle ten years from now, buy your GL Cups in the lobby...) :)

SuperPheemy

Mar 4th, '03, 01:56 PM

Captain America doesn't need modern special effects to make him work and has been done over and over again in series, and movies, and NEVER has there been a decent job done with it.

The same thing was said about Spider Man before last year, and Batman following the Adam West series. Heck, after the last couple of Batman movies, that franchise is still in danger of slipping into eternal cliche'.

Superman also slipped from a strong beginning into amazingly stupid wastes of film.

It's the danger of translating stories from what is widely considered "kiddie stories" to "serious art". For many years movie producers didn't consider the stories in comics worthy of serious treatment. At best folks running around in tights upholding Justice was at best "B" grade material regardless of how deep the story could get. Sadly, that perception continues to linger, despite proof that engaging, complex stories have been filmed, and successfully released.

My point is that the difficulty in making superhero movies comes not from the source material, but from preconceived notions of what a "superhero" is.

MarkusDark

Mar 4th, '03, 02:37 PM

Brutal

Mar 4th, '03, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by SuperPheemy

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Superman also slipped from a strong beginning into amazingly stupid wastes of film.
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The first superman movie (Superman, 1978) was VERY well done for its time, and even got an oscar for its amazing effects (the only superhero getting an oscar afaik). The second superman was also a good piece IMO, and showed up some nice superhero vs supervillain fighting.

Dynamo

Mar 4th, '03, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by Brutal
The first superman movie (Superman, 1978) was VERY well done for its time, and even got an oscar for its amazing effects (the only superhero getting an oscar afaik). The second superman was also a good piece IMO, and showed up some nice superhero vs supervillain fighting. I agree whole-heartedly, but I still wish I hadn't seen any of the other movies. That which is left to the imagination has got to be better than that schlock.

ShadowRaptor

Mar 4th, '03, 07:36 PM

The first two Superman movies were good, 3 and 4 were rather lacking in just about everything.

Willpower

Mar 4th, '03, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by SuperPheemy
[B]The same thing was said about Spider Man before last year, and Batman following the Adam West series. Heck, after the last couple of Batman movies, that franchise is still in danger of slipping into eternal cliche'.

Who in their right mind would ever say Spiderman didn't need special effects... the early Spiderman stuff sucked BECAUSE they didn't have good enough special effects. Though the time period it came out in also made it suck, but those nets just looked Stupid, and the Spider Sense really bit. Granted the new film was shot on a bigger budget, and had better actors and a better director, but if they kept using those stupid looking nets, everyone would say this Spiderman sucked too. Cap on the other hand, requires a shield... no other SFX really needed to do him right. They been doing decent bullet bouncing SFX since the old Superman series, and with a shield he wouldn't need to dodge the bullets. :D

Willpower

Mar 5th, '03, 10:07 PM

Just thought of who has the perfect look to pull off Superman. Someone, somewhere said that Brendan Frasier has been offered the role, and my first thought was, "Well he looks right for the part, and is bigger than most people who have played Superman, but he still isn't big enough to really pull Supes off for me." I want someone that looks like the comic book Superman, someone who looks like Alan Moore's Superman would be great. Well there is someone who looks the part for Superman, and is big enough to pull it off. Patrick Warburton... Though before I would even offer him the part I would want to see him do a serious role somewhere. Most of what I've seen of his acting, just doesn't make me think he could pull it off, acting wise, though he looks perfect for the role.

And what do you think of this if they did a JLA movie, Michael Clark Duncan to play Steel, he can act, and is definitely big enough. Before anyone says anything, Steel every time I have seen him, is always bigger than Superman.