Marvel and DC Universes

[Colossus]

Steve, once Marvel and DC newest Roleplaying systems fail, which they will, has there been any thought of licensing.

I know I started with the original Marvel (pre-Advanced Marvel) system from TSR. The system had a wonderful universe that I cared about, but once you’re over about 14 you discover the system fails to live up to the level of HERO (or even a modern d20 system).

If Hero games contracted to create Marvel and/or DC settings it would bring in a lot of new players. It would also, I believe help the comic companies, as you have a much better game mechanic then they do.

I like the Hero Universe, don’t get me wrong – but I’d rather meet Batman than Nighthawk (even the Kyle Richmond version!) or Colossus rather than Iornside.

A few genre books filled with stats on the X-Men, JLA or Avengers would sell – look at the Web versions of these characters. Just a thought. What do others think.

[Nightfly]

Where are these web versions you speak of? A shared URL would be greatly appreciated! I'd love to see the X-Men (and others) statted out.

[VictorVonDoom]

webversions of the older TSR version can be found on :

http://www.telebyte.nl/~vlemming/index.html
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/appchar.htm

You can reform the stats in HERO form using this page
http://www.hierax.com/hero/super/marvel.html

Stats of the TSR form are explained in this PDF files of the books

http://www.heroplay.com/features/rules/marvel.php

Powers must be added using the hero guide book or by using your own imagination

[Killer Shrike]

HERO Games has frequently indicated a lack of interest in dealing with the headaches involved in liscencing, unless the liscencer basically gave over complete creative control. Since that will never happen, dont expect to see any liscenced products.

[Hugh Neilson]

Originally posted by Colossus
I know I started with the original Marvel (pre-Advanced Marvel) system from TSR. The system had a wonderful universe that I cared about, but once you’re over about 14 you discover the system fails to live up to the level of HERO (or even a modern d20 system).

Or rock/scissors/paper

Or tossing coins

[VictorVonDoom]

or playing Yathzee :)

[Colossus]

As much as I am loathed to say this – the new Marvel System looks worse than the old. The biggest problem with the old was it was as easy to hit Spider-Man as the Hulk!

[VictorVonDoom]

I am glad i have still got the old...

[Pattern Ghost]

Originally posted by Colossus
As much as I am loathed to say this – the new Marvel System looks worse than the old. The biggest problem with the old was it was as easy to hit Spider-Man as the Hulk!

SAGA or FASERIP system? Certainly not in the older system.

[Killer Shrike]

Not under FASERIP.

Saga, quite possible with a good hand and/or Edge. That game was really volatile.

Particularly character creation. One of my players sat down in front of me to make a character just for kicks when I first picked up the SAGA version. He randomly built a character that was a more powerful mentalist than Professor X. Another player's character came out so feeble the term "superhero" was difficult to apply with a straight face.:rolleyes:

[VictorVonDoom]

Originally posted by Killer Shrike
Not under FASERIP.

Saga, quite possible with a good hand and/or Edge. That game was really volatile.

Particularly character creation. One of my players sat down in front of me to make a character just for kicks when I first picked up the SAGA version. He randomly built a character that was a more powerful mentalist than Professor X. Another player's character came out so feeble the term "superhero" was difficult to apply with a straight face.:rolleyes:

In SAGA or FASERIP?

[Sketchpad]

Honestly, I think that Hero could benefit from one of the major superhero licenses. Funny thing is, my wife and I were discussing this before I came online ... we were talking about how cool a Batman Sourcebook would be for Champions. Get Jim Lee to do the cover, then have a chapter breakdown based on the benchmarks. For example:
Chapter One - Batman Year One/Two/Robin Year One
Chapter Two - Knightfall
Chapter Three - No Man's Land
Chapter Four - Batman Today
Chapter Five - Allies of the Bat
Chapter Six - Enemies of the Bat
Chapter Seven - Batman's Gotham City

Include maps of Gotham City, stats for the heavy hitters of the Batman comics and diverse stats if someone wanted to start their campaign at a different point in time :) Follow up with Superman, Wonder Woman, JLA, JSA, Titans, DCU and Elseworlds books ...