Adding Examples to the Knowledge Skill

[crayadder]

I'm creating a custom template for my world and it includes modifying the list of skill examples that can be picked from when you choose the Knowledge Skill.

At first, I removed all of the Source tags from the examples since not all of my skills come from a source book and I discovered, upon creating a new character, that there was nothing in the drop down list when I added a Knowledge Skill.

Perplexed was I.

I looked at the reference skill template I was using and saw that the only difference was that I didn't have any <source> tags. So, I added a <source> tag to the first of my examples and created another character using the updated template. I added a Knowledge Skill and there, in the example drop down list, was the skill (let's call it Underwater Basket Weaving).

Imagine my exuberence!

I wondered if it was the tag alone that needed to be included e.g.<source></source> or the tag plus something written within it. e.g. <source>some book</source>. In the interest of exploration I removed the text within the <source> tag, so that I had <example>Underwater Basket Weaving<source></source></example>. I created another test character with this updated template and the skill showed up in the drop down list in the Knowledge Skill.

I proceeded to add <source></source> to all my example skills. I saved my template. I created a new character. I added a Knowledge Skill and clicked on the dropdown list to reveal *all* my wonderful options. I got...

Underwater Basket Weaving.

That's it. Nothing else. So, Scratching my head, I added text to the Source tag on the second skill example in my template, bearing in mind the first one was left as <source></source> since it was already showing in the list. I saved the template and created yet another test character. I selected Knowledge Skill and looked at the options available in the drop down list. What do I see?

Underwater Basket Weaving!

I know, weird, right? Oh...I'm not done! OK, so, I figure that they all need to have text in the <source> tag, which is clearly contradictory to what has already happened, but what the hay! I go back to the template and add text to back to the Underwater Basket Weaving <source> tag and, since I already have text in my second skill's <source> tag, I go ahead and save the template. I create my 5000 test character and add a Knowledge Skill. I open the drop down list and I see.....

Underwater Basket Weaving
Second Skill

!!! Yeah baby! OK, one last test. Since the list maintained my Underwater Basket Weaving after I removed the text from within the <source> Tag, I decided to try it again. I removed the text from the <source> tag on the Underwater Basket Weaving example and saved my template. I created a new character and selected a Knowledge Skill. I opened up the drop down list and saw...

Underwater Basket Weaving.

That's it. So, I know you think I've made this all up in some drunken, drugged, attempt to gain some smidgeon of attention, but I'm telling you it's true! this is as far as I've gotten. I figured I'd let those who can gain any benefit from this know before I forgot everything I had done. Hope someone finds this useful, or at least funny :thumbup:

Cray

[Simon]

The source tag determines the source book that the ability (or adder or example, etc.) comes from.

If not specified (or empty) it will default to 5er.

If specified, the source will be added to the distinct list of source books in the application preferences. If said source is not selected (which is the default state for all new sources), any abilities (etc) defined as deriving from that source will not be used.

[Simon]

I should also point out that KS has a lot of extra rules/baggage wrapped around it -- as represented in the original template definition.

Specifically, the type of KS that the example belongs to (Groups, People, Places, or Things). Only the examples defined for the selected type of KS will be shown. And then only the ones from a valid/selected source book.

[crayadder]

That explains it!

If I make up a sourcebook, say for the skill examples that I am creating, will it show up in the application preferences to be selected?

Now that I think of it, I'm pretty sure 5er is selected in my preferences. wouldn't the skills be available with just the <source></source> tag in that case, since you've stated that it will default to 5er?

[Simon]

An empty source container would likely show up as an empty entry/checkbox on the app prefs. It should not be done and is generally considered invalid markup for your template.

Also note the type of KS -- that will affect what examples are shown.

[crayadder]

Thanks for the help Simon. I appreciate it.

[Enforcer84]

So did you figure this out?

[crayadder]

Sorry for not posting a follow-up, it's been a busy few weeks :nonp:

I got it to work by creating my own "sourcebook" for the source tags for the skills that I wanted to add for my world. Sure enough, the book showed up in the preferences menu and when I checked it my skills showed up in the example list.

Thanks for all the help and Merry Xmas!

[Enforcer84]

Sweet, thanks I think I can figure that out! :)