FH Sightings yet?

[Blue]

Steve mentioned it's likely gone to distributors from the printers. Anyone seen it at their retailer yet?

[rayoman]

A friend has mine in his possession. He says it is thick and he has been carrying it around since 10 am Thursday morning at GenCon. :)

Now, if I can only get him to bring it back to me on Friday...Hell, it's only a 2 hr drive or so back from Indianapolis.

Oh, well, I guess I'll get it Sunday night.

[Steve Long]

It only shipped from the printer on Monday, so the odds of there being any sightings aside from GenCon are slim right now. Give it a week or so and they'll become much more common. ;)

[TechnoViking]

Also remember that many people who work for distributors and FLGSs are also at GenCon. This will also slow down the entire process.

Mike

[CrosshairCollie]

As an only tangentially related note, I wish to take this opportunity to declare my annoyance that my local Hastings (the only place to get any game books in this armpit of a town) is apparently unable to order Hero Games merchandise for some reason, meaning I have to drive 90 miles to get it.

*FUME*

Thank you for your time.

P.S. The fact that my wife works at this Hastings and would get a huge discount on said merchandise has no bearing on my rant. Really. Honest.

[Ben Seeman]

Originally posted by CrosshairCollie
As an only tangentially related note, I wish to take this opportunity to declare my annoyance that my local Hastings (the only place to get any game books in this armpit of a town) is apparently unable to order Hero Games merchandise for some reason, meaning I have to drive 90 miles to get it.

*FUME*

Thank you for your time.

P.S. The fact that my wife works at this Hastings and would get a huge discount on said merchandise has no bearing on my rant. Really. Honest.
Do you have any idea who which distributor thestore orders from?

[buzardb8]

The Compleat Strategist in NYC has 'em.

One less now after my purchase. :D

[CrosshairCollie]

Originally posted by Ben Seeman
Do you have any idea who which distributor thestore orders from?

"At least two, probably more," she says. She can't remember the names off the top of her head, but I've asked her to find out.

[Edsel]

My Truely Friendly LGS has not been able to get it yet, but they'll get it as soon as possible (for Oklahoma). I checked with them today and I know that Alliance is not yet listing it.

[Carmen]

I just preordered mine from Game Chest in Dallas. The guy there thinks they'll get them in on Tuesday.

[Blue]

Guess that means... I'M THE ONLY ONE HERE WITH A COPY!

Woohoo!

Boy is it thick. Picked it up at the FLGS here in Southern California, on my way home from work. Had to rub it in before I crack the book open.

And now.. page one!

EDIT: Okay, one more comment... The Chapter seperation pages are great! The fact that they are black makes it easy to see when you look at the closed book exactly where each chapter begins! That makes it so much easier to jump from section to section.

[cutsleeve]

I got mine today from my local small bookstore i ordered it on wednesday and got it today and am trying to read it all. its thicker then the FRED. Im happy happy.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Steve Long]

The Chapter seperation pages are great! The fact that they are black makes it easy to see when you look at the closed book exactly where each chapter begins!

Glad you like it! The printer informed us we could do full-bleed pages at no additional cost now, so we thought we'd give it a try. We're looking forward to seeing the general fan reaction.

[AnotherSkip]

hmm sounds like a part of a Necromancers ritual or a sacrifice.........

[Steve]

My FLGS just got theirs in yesterday, here in Orange County, Southern California, and I picked up the copy they were saving for me today.

The chapter dividing pages make it easier to navigate around in the book. It was a great idea.

[Blue]

Originally posted by Steve
My FLGS just got theirs in yesterday, here in Orange County, Southern California, and I picked up the copy they were saving for me today.

The chapter dividing pages make it easier to navigate around in the book. It was a great idea.
Wonder if we went to the same place?

Wait a minute... why am I reading the forums when I could be reading my book. To the book cave!

[MarkusDark]

A friend of mine found a copy in a LGS but they told him that they couldn't sell it until Monday. That was wierd.

Also, my FLGS says that it isn't currently in their distributor's catalog so they can't order it yet.

I'll get it though... ;)

[Morningstar]

[I]My FLGS just got theirs in yesterday, here in Orange County, Southern California, and I picked up the copy they were saving for me today.

The chapter dividing pages make it easier to navigate around in the book. It was a great idea.
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Wonder if we went to the same place?


[B]Where did you get it? I live in Huntington Beach and pre-ordered it from frpgames since they always seem to have things faster than the the WOTC store, which doesn't carry anything but there own product now anyway. I would just like to know wher eany other decent shop near me is.

[Steve]

Originally posted by Morningstar
[I]My FLGS just got theirs in yesterday, here in Orange County, Southern California, and I picked up the copy they were saving for me today.

The chapter dividing pages make it easier to navigate around in the book. It was a great idea.
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Wonder if we went to the same place?


[B]Where did you get it? I live in Huntington Beach and pre-ordered it from frpgames since they always seem to have things faster than the the WOTC store, which doesn't carry anything but there own product now anyway. I would just like to know wher eany other decent shop near me is.

I shop at Game Castle, in Fullerton. They always order Hero stuff.

And everything is 5% off cover price.

[BlackCobra]

I've been told that by my FLGS that they'll have Fantasy Hero in on Monday (Tuesday at the latest) -- which for them is nothing short of amazing. I just got my copies of the Database and the Spacer's Toolkit this past Thursday.

In fact, they're so notorious for being slow, I often joke that I buy my books with a -1/4 limit Extra Time.

What makes this even funnier is that I get a regular discount from them.

[Steve Long]

A friend of mine found a copy in a LGS but they told him that they couldn't sell it until Monday. That was wierd.

That is very weird. It must be some bizarre store policy; it's certainly not anything mandated by Hero Games.

[AnotherSkip]

Perhaps some sort of weird misscommunique the inverse of the Harry Potter fiasco?

i shall wait a few weeks before even going to the closest FLGS, there is nothing even close to there so that makes it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayy outta the way for me.

i need to build up a thirst for the book and that aint happened yet.

besides i gotta wait till after my B-day to even consider it.

[Blue]

Originally posted by Steve
I shop at Game Castle, in Fullerton. They always order Hero stuff.

And everything is 5% off cover price.

That be the place :D
(And they're usually about 2 days earlier than Brookhurst Hobbies.)

[Tim]

So. Did you sell out at Gencon?

[Cyragnome]

For those in the DC area, I picked mine up at the Game Parlor in Chantilly this morning...

Big, I mean BEEEEEEEG! book

gratuitous Homer Simpson drool noises

[Steve Long]

So. Did you sell out at Gencon?

No, but we didn't expect to. We estimate we sold about 160 of the 250 copies we brought, which is quite respectable -- not as much as Champions last year, but pretty close.

[Tim]

Well, I was hoping it would be such a colossal hit that you would, but the numbers you gave are no slouch either, so Congratulations.

Now I have to what until Wednesday for mine to come in at my FLGS.

TimS.

[Markdoc]

Not entirely on topic, perhaps, but what IS considered a "hot-selling" Hero item? I read about items which have been reprinted, but is a print run 1000 copies, 10,000 copies or 100,000 copies?:)

I have to admit I have puzzled over this for years...

cheers, Mark

[Steve Long]

I'm sorry, but we don't reveal sales numbers. That's confidential business info.

[misterdeath]

Karl at Game Keep in Hermitage, TN has some copies. So, it's here in the middle TN area.

D

[Citizen Keen]

Going to my FLGS to get it. Won't have time to post until it's done, so I thought I'd list it as "sighted" now.

-cK

[Nimbus]

Bob King at Kings Hobby was kind enough to get a copy of it for me today. If you give him a call I am sure he can do the same for you. The folks at Dragon's Lair always seemed very confused on when it would be released or what it was. (I called about 7 times over the last few days and got 6 different answers, including that it Alliance didn't even have it yet, which is absurd-THEY DO!) As a general rule, it is probably a good idea to hire people with GAMING EXPERIENCE to work in a GAMES STORE, or st least someone who gives a damn.

[The Mad GM]

Game Haven in Winston-Salem, North Carolina apparentlly has copies, or had some this weekend.

[Killer Shrike]

Game Empire San Diego had 3 copies left after my vist ~8pm PDT Monday

[The Mad GM]

I got mine Monday night. Thanks, Steve!

[PhosphorRose]

Game Chest in Dallas has it. Not sure when it came in, I just grabbed, paid, and ran off to read it. :p

First impression is prettimuch like everyone else tho: "Holy crap, this thing is big!"

It also looks like the book had some special TLC: The book size and section dividers remind me of Warhammer Fantasy Battle Roleplay, while some of the artwork seems RIFTs-ish. (Which to me is a good thing.)

$31.99 is an insanely low price for this book.

I'm definately happy I got this.

[Nightshade]

PC/Dungeon in Ames, Iowa has some, although they may be out already.

Nightshade

[eepjr24]

At last check, Sci-fi City did not have any copies (and the people I talked to were not even aware it was out yet). Coliseum of Comics got me a copy from their local warehouse the next day.

- Ernie

[yamamura]

I just picked up my copy of it today at Mayhem in Des Moines. They still had copies left. As for what I think of the book, where can I find a good lawyer, I want to sue for muscle strain (hehehe). Seriously, what I have seen so far I really like especially the sections on world building. Can't wait for the grimoire. Keep up good work Hero.

G

[McCoid]

I just picked it up well yesterday now here in soggy Scotland and wanted to say thank you for a great book, keep up the great work.

[TechnoViking]

Got my in Salt Lake City.

Oh Yeah.. Oh Yeah... It your birthday.

Mike

[Edsel]

Got mine early this afternoon at Game Headquarters in Oklahoma City. My arms may be sore tomorrow from lifting this thing.:D

[Nightshade]

I got mine in the mail yesterday. All I have to say is wow. I didn't get much sleep last night, but I am up to the 200s somewhere.

Very well done. I'll have to write a review for this one.

Nightshade

[Dynamo]

Picked up my copy on Wednesday. This is one H³B (Honkin' Huge Hero Book). The one store in Tacoma that will stock Hero stuff only got one copy. They ordered four, but their distributor said the shipment from the printer was badly damaged, so they sent each ordering store one.

SO I'VE GOT THE ONLY ONE!!!

Well, OK, aside from those coming back from GenCon. And people driving up to King County. And mail orders.

Nuts. :(

:) I'm a DH subscriber, so I knew to expect much goodness, but my wife doesn't like reading on the screen, so she's totally blown away by FH. The Hero System intimidates her a little, but she's really enjoying the tremendous amount of non-system-specific material. She's just started her first D&D campaign as a GM, and she's taking lots of notes.

Keep up books like this, and Hero Games might supplant SJGames as the premier publisher of supplements for people who don't play the core system. <img src="http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=96965" alt="Dynamo's custom smiley">

[tgaptte]

I just picked up my 5 copies (:D) on Tuesday night...drove like crazy to make it before my FLUBS closed...I even called the guy to ask him to stay open til 7:10pm...gotta love those FLUBS, great store! Plus, all new gaming stuff is always 20% off! ;D

This thing is a BEAST! Already skimmed it and boy does it look good...time to gear up for FH!

Tim

[zarglif69]

I GOT MINE TODAY!!!! Thank you Hero Games, thank you!!!! (and Pegasus)

[MarkusDark]

Originally posted by tgaptte

This thing is a BEAST! Already skimmed it and boy does it look good...time to gear up for FH!

Tim

Can't wait to play in your campaign. :p

[Tim]

Got mine tonight. The guys at my comic/games store I buy from said that it was well worth the price per pound. :)

I had to agree.

timS.

[SuperPheemy]

They're in Sacramento. I found three at A-1 Comics off of Madison, so there should be more copies at the Roseville store soon. To my fellow Sac HEROs, I got your back!

And yes, it's a TOME of HEROic proportions!

[Crimson Arrow]

It's arrived in the UK. Mine was delivered yesterday (Leisure Games in North London), but I haven't had a chance to look at it yet. Weird, because Star Hero took a few weeks to reach these shores.

[MadKestrel]

We picked ours up at the LGS last night, after calling them every day since last Thursday. (We live in easternmost VA.)

I'm a dedicated FH fan, and I've been waiting for this product since 5th Edition was released. I've had trouble understanding why HERO waited so long to release their product for the 'most popular genre in gaming' (from the first sentence of the FH introduction). I'd hoped the product was worth the wait.

I've only had time to browse it a bit (less than 10 minutes) -- but is it just me or isn't it REALLY expensive to become a Gnome? I'm kind of shocked that an error of this magnitude wasn't caught in editing. Hopefully, the rest of the book won't have such glaring errors.

As an avid fan who has waited way too long for this product, my first look, with the possible exception of the lifting and the dent in my wallet ($32 + tax), has me less than impressed.

Please don't suggest a write in campaign for artwork awards for this volume either. (I found such a suggestion for Star Hero laughable.)

MadKestrel

[beastialwarlust]

I just got mine yesterday. I've one a quick browse through but haven't had a chance to read it in more detail yet. This book is a monster! I Like what I've seen so far.

[Talon]

Originally posted by MadKestrel
I've only had time to browse it a bit (less than 10 minutes) -- but is it just me or isn't it REALLY expensive to become a Gnome? I'm kind of shocked that an error of this magnitude wasn't caught in editing. Hopefully, the rest of the book won't have such glaring errors.

The cost was 11 in the playtest file; what is it in the book? (Mine's at home.)

[Storn]

Originally posted by MadKestrel


I've only had time to browse it a bit (less than 10 minutes) -- but is it just me or isn't it REALLY expensive to become a Gnome? I'm kind of shocked that an error of this magnitude wasn't caught in editing. Hopefully, the rest of the book won't have such glaring errors.


Please don't suggest a write in campaign for artwork awards for this volume either. (I found such a suggestion for Star Hero laughable.)

MadKestrel

Two things, Mad.

1) Hero is fairly flexible. If you find another way to play a Gnome cheaper, Steve Long ain't gonna come to your house and take away your book <g>. My suggestion is not to worry about racial packages, but just build the character stats, skills and powers that makes sense. But I haven't seen the Gnome pckge yet, so I'm a bit un-informed.

2) I tried to do the best artwork that I'm capable of. I'm saddened that you don't think it is up to snuff and vow to try even harder for the next product.

[StationX]

Just picked up my copy from playing games in London, UK

well impressed with shipping time :D

Chris

[TechnoViking]

Originally posted by StationX
Just picked up my copy from playing games in London, UK

I know that a few UK store get Hero stuff fairly quick (for overseas), some times quicker than I get them in Salt Lake City :).

Mike

ps: Welcome to the board StationX

[StationX]

heh thanks for the welcome Mike.

Been hanging around for a long time, just not recently (work work work)

thought at first the boards had been reskinned but couldent log in with my old ID :(

heh o well

Ill try to post again before they update the board software again :p

Chris

[GreyGuardian]

Copy of the tome acquired at Other Realms in Gaithersburg, Maryland. They came in yesterday apparently. Only had a chance to look at the table of contents but it looks good so far.

[Argus]

Originally posted by Storn
Two things, Mad.

1) Hero is fairly flexible. If you find another way to play a Gnome cheaper, Steve Long ain't gonna come to your house and take away your book <g>. My suggestion is not to worry about racial packages, but just build the character stats, skills and powers that makes sense. But I haven't seen the Gnome pckge yet, so I'm a bit un-informed.


The cost of the Gnome is about 140 points.

Should have been caught before it went to the printer.

A.

[Talon]

Since it wasn't in the playtest, my guess is that it was a last minute gremlin of some sort. In general, Steve & Co. are amazingly good about catching these things (especially compared to the nightmare that was 4th Edition proofreading). If FH is rife with this kind of error I'd be surprised.

[Monolith]

Originally posted by tgaptte
This thing is a BEAST!
You are not kidding! Mine came in today, and I am not sure my shelf will be able to hold it! I think Fantasy Hero is the largest game book I have ever bought.

At 3 pages a day I will have the whole thing read by Christmas. :)

[Herolover]

Originally posted by MadKestrel
We picked ours up at the LGS last night, after calling them every day since last Thursday. (We live in easternmost VA.)

I'm a dedicated FH fan, and I've been waiting for this product since 5th Edition was released. I've had trouble understanding why HERO waited so long to release their product for the 'most popular genre in gaming' (from the first sentence of the FH introduction). I'd hoped the product was worth the wait.

I've only had time to browse it a bit (less than 10 minutes) -- but is it just me or isn't it REALLY expensive to become a Gnome? I'm kind of shocked that an error of this magnitude wasn't caught in editing. Hopefully, the rest of the book won't have such glaring errors.

As an avid fan who has waited way too long for this product, my first look, with the possible exception of the lifting and the dent in my wallet ($32 + tax), has me less than impressed.

Please don't suggest a write in campaign for artwork awards for this volume either. (I found such a suggestion for Star Hero laughable.)

MadKestrel

First, I hope you read it and then come back and give us your opinion. I have the feeling after you read it you will think better of the book.

Second, I think HERO choose to do their releases in the correct order. HERO will alway be Champions (I don't like it, but it is a fact) and they wanted to wait and make sure they got Fantasy Hero right. Being as the book said the most popular you had better get it right the first time.

Third, I cannot possibly believe anyone would complain about the cost of Fantasy Hero. Yes, it is expensive, but what other gaming company is selling books of this size for less than $60.00. I just bought the new Babylon 5 RPG for $45.00. Yes it is hardback and yes it is in color, but far far fewer information which is why I buy RPG's.

For content and durabiltiy HERO books are among the best priced items in the industry.

[Derek Hiemforth]

Originally posted by MadKestrel
I've had trouble understanding why HERO waited so long to release their product for the 'most popular genre in gaming' (from the first sentence of the FH introduction).Because Champions needed to come first, given their origins. Star Hero came second because an opening to become a major player in the sci-fi game niche was perceived, and because there wouldn't have been time for Steve to write Fantasy Hero in time for a GenCon release anyway. Ninja Hero was released third because Steve didn't have to write it.

This was the earliest they could have done it and still given it GenCon release hype. ;)

I've only had time to browse it a bit (less than 10 minutes) -- but is it just me or isn't it REALLY expensive to become a Gnome? I'm kind of shocked that an error of this magnitude wasn't caught in editing. Hopefully, the rest of the book won't have such glaring errors.You mean like SPD having a base value of 10? ;)

It's just a typo. It's unfortunate, but they happen. I hope you're not too quick to become disappointed with the book because of a single typo.

Please don't suggest a write in campaign for artwork awards for this volume either. (I found such a suggestion for Star Hero laughable.)As far as I know, the only such suggestion was for Star Hero's cover. If you don't like certain artwork, that's fine. But that doesn't mean others can't like it, or even find it award-worthy.

[MarkusDark]

So, how much PD do you think you'd get if you strapped this book to your chest? My feel is about +3 PD for that area myself... ;)

Not only a reference source, but a handy dandy piece of armor as well...

[Eodin]

Got my FH today! I scanned through it and am bowled away. THANK YOU STEVE! :D

[Jhamin]

I got my copy at my FLGS in St. Paul yesterday.

[Ulryk]

Incredible sales in San Diego. First day it arrived I called my usual FLGS in the morning, by the time I left for lunch they were sold out already.

I was fairly bummed, but took a chance on a small comic book store on Mira Mesa that stocks a smaller variety and quantity than my main store. I found three copies there and quickly snagged all three for myself and two friends that I work/game with.

I don't beleive there is now a single copy for sale in SD. Everyone I asked is ordering more. Great job Steve (Again!)

Ulryk

[Derek Hiemforth]

Originally posted by Ulryk
Incredible sales in San Diego.Selling well in Sacramento, too. I saw SuperPheemy's post about A1 Comics on Madison having three copies. SP made that post last night after A1 had closed. I went there this morning 25 minutes after they opened, and I got the last one they had. :D

[SuperPheemy]

Glad you got yourself one! I was thinking of you when I made the post.

Some of the other LGS's around here should be getting more copies soon. I was talking to a friend of mine and one of the distributers *ahem* forgot(?!?!) to mention that FH was in stock this week.

[Rigel]

Originally posted by PhosphorRose
Game Chest in Dallas has it. Not sure when it came in, I just grabbed, paid, and ran off to read it. :p


Thanks for the tip. My local comic shop (which is often my not-so-friendly gaming store) did not have FH today, but Game Chest in Dallas did. I called. They held it. I borrowed my friend's pickup so I could carry the tome home, and now I have it. It looks great so far!

[Erik Roman]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MadKestrel
Please don't suggest a write in campaign for artwork awards for this volume either. (I found such a suggestion for Star Hero laughable.)

QUOTE]


I have to agree with Storn on his response to this. We all did the best we could and (In my humble opinion) The artwork from all involved is as good, if not better, than most of the B&W interior work I've seen.

I'm sorry you didn't like it.


~e.:cool:

[winterhawk]

The fine folks @ Games Plus in lovely downtown Mt. Prospect, IL had several copies. I'm not a fantasy gamer myself, but glancing thru, it looks like a fine tome.

[MadKestrel]

Originally posted by Herolover
First, I hope you read it and then come back and give us your opinion. I have the feeling after you read it you will think better of the book.

Second, I think HERO choose to do their releases in the correct order. HERO will alway be Champions (I don't like it, but it is a fact) and they wanted to wait and make sure they got Fantasy Hero right. Being as the book said the most popular you had better get it right the first time.

Third, I cannot possibly believe anyone would complain about the cost of Fantasy Hero. Yes, it is expensive, but what other gaming company is selling books of this size for less than $60.00. I just bought the new Babylon 5 RPG for $45.00. Yes it is hardback and yes it is in color, but far far fewer information which is why I buy RPG's.

For content and durabiltiy HERO books are among the best priced items in the industry.

I want to clarify my post.

First off, I agree that Champions should come first. I have to do, I'm married to a Champions fanatic, and that is how I first got introduced to the system.

But, by Steve's admission, fantasy is the most popular genre and I do think FH should have been the second product released. Yes, I know Star Hero was chosen (SF being a far less popular RPG genre, I'd have put that on the back burner), and so was Ninja Hero... But here is what happened at our house:

The week Fred came out, we had six high school sophmores hanging around our place who wanted to play an RPG, one of them being our own daughter. One of them was forbidden by his parents to play D&D, so they were floundering around. My husband offered to run Chamions for them, but we didn't have Fred in hand yet and went with Big Blue. We played Champions with four of them -- one wanted to stick with D&D only, another couldn't manage our play schedule. The kids floundered quite a bit. They seemed to enjoy the sessions, but had a hard time understanding the mechanics because they spent too much time goofing off and rarely had to really use them. It was very clear that they wanted to do Fantasy. But Big Blue was unavailable (except for a prohibitive amount on eBay) and FH was an online product -- none of them had a credit card (couldn't have used it anyway, without Big Blue). Fred has a pretty high price tag (I'm not complaining because I think it is worth the price,) and at that time no fantasy product available. That was a year and a half ago.

Fast forward to now: No one is playing Champions in that group (they might if my husband ran it for them, but our daughter doesn't like supers at all, she's just for fantasy). But three of the members of that group already own 3E and those forbidden from D&D aren't playing at all.

The long and short of this is that 18 months passed and because another company had a product on the shelves they made the sales. Talking these kids to coming back to HERO after FH Grimoire is out will be 'nigh impossible'.

If they should even think about it, look at what they will be making thier decisions on:
Cost of FH: $40 (Fred) + 32 (FH) + Grimoire (estimate $25)=$97
Cost of D&D: $75 for all three core rules books. (maybe $60 now that 3.5 is in it's push.)

The second product is not only available currently, it's cheaper and you can get a software generator for free on the net. They still have to wait for Grimoire with HERO and have to add another $30 or so for HERO Designer.

Let's add the popularity of D&D, which is an issue if you are looking for players.

The point of this is: I'm not saying D&D is a better system. I think HERO is and always will be the best RPG system ever. (And we have spent the last fifteen years buying re-releases of the product again and again. We even tried to do a fan-based 'free' product for HERO at one point, but got so disgusted dealing with Bruce Harlick that we gave up.)

But I look at the 3e product and the artwork is awesome. It makes me want to play the game -- and I hate D&D.

The bottom line of this message is: HERO has the BEST RPG on the planet. But they really need some serious bean counters to look at not only what is on the shelf to compete with, but what will be on the shelf when the HERO product finally hits the shelves, and, if HERO carries a higher price tag, it darn well better be obvious to the casual browser why it does.

Don't misunderstand -- I'm saying all of this because I want 5th Ed, Champions and FH to be the most played games out there. But in order to do that, I think they need something more than the biggest and most expensive book on the shelf. (While the size helps... with SO MUCH stuff out there, I really think it is going to take more than that.)

Artwork -- I didn't intend to be insulting. The artwork is not BAD. But it does not grab my attention like some other products (except for the FH logo). The cover for FH looks to me to be in the style of a four color comic. I do think the more muted style and the detail of the last release of FH would have been more appropriate to the genre.

Ther are other things I would have made issue of if I were in the HERO marketing department, but I'm not, so they are not terribly important now.

MadKestrel

P.S. Cost of Gnome pkg = 130 points. Same as Giant. Cost of Halfling=8 points. Yep, it's a typo, but since it's in the grey box and the first thing you see when you browse the 'typical' fantasy races, it's pretty noticeable.

[keithcurtis]

Originally posted by MadKestrel
Artwork -- I didn't intend to be insulting. The artwork is not BAD. But it does not grab my attention like some other products (<i>except for the FH logo</I>).

Thanks!

Keith "My first cover stuff" Curtis

[Shadow Warrior]

Got my copy of FH through the post from Wayland's Forge in Birmingham on the 31st (last Thursday) so it must have been at the UK distributor no later than the 29th. It's going to take me far longer to read and digest this weighty tome than it took to get from the US printers to my sweaty palms here in the UK.

Very impressed so far though. I'm looking forward to reading the "How to run a campaign" bit. IMO, this section in the 2nd edition FH was the best of its kind I'd read in any RPG product ever and I'm hoping for more of the same here!

[lemming]

Just picked it up today. Saw it on display thinking "What was I worried about? They've got plenty on the shelf."

Ok, so one book takes up a lot of room. :D

[AnotherSkip]

Erm at this rate by the time we get to Western Hero and Cyber Hero stores are gonna need to purchase solid rolled steel shelving in order to carry the dang things.

Either that or lay them out on the concrete and hope they dont crack the foundations!!!!!!!!

:)


Has anyone checked out Black and Read in the Denver area or Attatix (also Denver)?

[Toadmaster]

Originally posted by MarkusDark
So, how much PD do you think you'd get if you strapped this book to your chest? My feel is about +3 PD for that area myself... ;)

Not only a reference source, but a handy dandy piece of armor as well...

Years ago I took a firearms class, the instructor had us shoot phone books to compare various rounds. Its been awhile but I'm pretty sure FH would stop a .38 Special.

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