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Broblawsky
Jul 27th, '03, 09:13 PM
OK, I see a lot of people mention Tyrannon, and how much cooler he is than Istvatha V'Han - and since she's pretty cool imho, he must be one bad mutha, so to speak. All I know about him is that he's from an older edition book, has uber-cosmic-mystic powers, and conquers dimensions - sort of like the Dread Dormammu, in fact. I'd kind of like for anone who really knows anything about him to post it on this board - I'm sure you'd be doing noobs like me a great favor.
Southern Cross
Jul 27th, '03, 09:25 PM
OK,here's a brief synopsis of Tyrannon,The Tyrant Of A Thousand Forms..
He's described in Mystic Masters (the 4th Edition sourcebook with the Bill Willingham cover).Essentially he has conquered his home dimension and has now set his sights on Earth.
As you've realised he's very powerful,but most of that power is spent on the Duplication power,and he is dependent on the light of the Kae Linn (imprisoned sun goddesses with healing powers) to maintain his many forms.
Southern Cross
Jul 27th, '03, 09:27 PM
I forgot to mention that the dependency forces Tyrannon to conquer a dimension quickly (making it part of his home dimension of Thulkos) or leave.
Lord Liaden
Jul 27th, '03, 10:38 PM
While copyright considerations prevent me from going into too much detail about Tyrannon on this public forum :(, I'll try to summarize some of what makes him cool. Note that these descriptions and power levels are based on his 4E writeup in the fine Mystic Masters book, hence may be changed for any future 5E update:
Tyrannon is a vastly powerful mystical entity who rules his own alien dimension, Thulkos. His personal power is augmented by the worship of his subjects. He is obsessed with conquering other dimensions and adding them to his domain. In these ways he is indeed very much like Dormammu, but in most other ways his concept is very different and original.
As the "Tyrant of a Thousand Forms," Tyrannon normally exists as many separate beings who share the same consciousness (their minds are all Linked together). The most powerful of these are the eight Thrones, each one rivalling the power of a mega-villain like Dr. Destroyer. Each Throne appears to be a different creature or substance: humanoid, reptilian, avian, plant, mineral, and others. Every Throne is directly Mind Linked to ten Avatars who resemble their Throne; one Avatar would be a good match for a whole team of standard superheroes. An Avatar is in turn linked to ten Emissaries, equivalent to low-level supers. Thus Tyrannon's 888 forms make up an entire organization by himself, able to personally supervise vast areas of his conquered territories.
Tyrannon can combine his many forms into one entity with enough power to warp immense volumes of space itself; he uses this power to absorb conquered dimensions into his own, essentially transforming them into extensions of Thulkos. He can only do this with dimensions where he has a sufficient number of subjects/ worshippers, though. (This ability was never written up in game mechanic terms, instead being treated as a plot device.) Tyrannon has other Physical and Psychological Limitations that prevent him from just waltzing onto a new world and taking it over. Clever heroes could exploit these flaws to thwart him, at least temporarily - Tyrannon "collectively" is intended to be virtually unbeatable by force alone.
GamePhil
Jul 27th, '03, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by Broblawsky
OK, I see a lot of people mention Tyrannon, and how much cooler he is than Istvatha V'Han -
Well, I wouldn't go that far, but I suspect that he's part of the reason behind the changed cost structure of Duplication.
I rather liked him, he has a Dr. Strange villain flavor. Something like vanilla with an overtone of oak.
death tribble
Jul 28th, '03, 04:04 AM
Well I am one of the nay sayers.
I hate Tyrannon more than I hate the Dimension conquering princess. But this is my personal preference.
Tom McCarthy
Jul 28th, '03, 06:07 AM
I tried to write up Tyrannon in 5th edition, and while greatly reduced in power, I believe he still had something like 1420 points above and beyond disadvantages. And I just know Steve (or Dean Shomshak) will beef him up when they do publish him.
VictorVonDoom
Jul 28th, '03, 02:18 PM
Is it not a EYE TYRANT from D&D or alike? (or Beholder)
Killer Shrike
Jul 28th, '03, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by VictorVonDoom
Is it not a EYE TYRANT from D&D or alike? (or Beholder) Tyrannon is just a word, taken from the base "Tyrant" and the time-held tradition of sticking "on" at the tail end of words to name world threatening villains.
Like Mechanon (Mechanical + on), Ultron (Ultra + on), and Celine Dion (Die + On).
Its just part of the extreme mutability inherent to the English language -- you can create whole new words even by accident sometimes.
Deacon Blues
Jul 28th, '03, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by Lord Liaden
Tyrannon has other Physical and Psychological Limitations that prevent him from just waltzing onto a new world and taking it over. I forget - why can't Istvatha V'han just waltz on in and conquer Earth, again?
Killer Shrike
Jul 28th, '03, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by Deacon Blues
I forget - why can't Istvatha V'han just waltz on in and conquer Earth, again? She keeps getting beaten back by the supers IIRC. Which begs the question, why didnt she take over during Terran Empire then when all the supers are gone?
don
Jul 28th, '03, 03:45 PM
Yep. Because it wouldn't be fun for the players.
heehee
:D
Don
Jeff
Jul 28th, '03, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by Killer Shrike
She keeps getting beaten back by the supers IIRC. Which begs the question, why didnt she take over during Terran Empire then when all the supers are gone?
I figure turning off the magic shut the doors that kept having folks wander into our dimension. That, or turning off the magic made them lose interest. Heck, maybe both.
zarglif69
Jul 31st, '03, 09:08 AM
During the Terran Empire, magic was (will be) at a low point. It has been specifically stated that V'Han is attracted to Earth because of the large amounts of magic. Then, during the "Galactic Champions' age, all the Supers are Cosmic, so they might have a fat chance of beating her, once and for all. guess she's done with Earth.
bcholmes
Aug 1st, '03, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Killer Shrike
Like Mechanon (Mechanical + on), Ultron (Ultra + on), and Celine Dion (Die + On).
Gak. *gurk*
Okay. Now I have hiccups.
Captain Obvious
Aug 1st, '03, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by bcholmes
Gak. *gurk*
Okay. Now I have hiccups.
And thus was born Hiccupon, Earth's most feared villain.
Metaphysician
Mar 24th, '04, 05:19 PM
Istvatha has limitations on her ability to put forces and ships in another dimension. Basically, if you can keep her from consolidating a beachhead on your world, she can't simply keep dumping more ships and troops in.
Steve Long
Mar 24th, '04, 05:22 PM
You'll be able to see the 5E take on Tyrannon in The Mystic World, which should be out in a few months. It's in my Big Stack o' Editing. ;)
rayoman
Mar 24th, '04, 06:46 PM
Don't forget Hiccupon's faithful sidekick, Peon (Pee + on). :rolleyes:
And thus was born Hiccupon, Earth's most feared villain.
Scott Destroyer
Mar 24th, '04, 09:42 PM
Hello,
Originally Posted by Captain Obvious:
And thus was born Hiccupon, Earth's most feared villain.
Originally Posted by rayoman:
Don't forget Hiccupon's faithful sidekick, Peon (Pee + on).
Hah! Mere harbingers and forerunners of that most fearsome of villains - FLATULON THE GASEOUS!!!!!
His powers include "Startle Housepets", "Rattle Windows", and "Clear Gameroom". Like Tyrannon, he also has an unfortunate tendency towards Duplication, often showing up multiple times during the same game session.
Few are the gaming groups who have never encountered this foul villain, even if they've never played a superhero-genre game in their lives...
;)
(on a more serious note - really looking forward to both The Mystic World and The Ultimate Mystic. It'll be nice to see the Big T written up for 5th, and the Vandaleurs always had an interesting Amberite/Howard Families vibe to them. Perhaps we'll see some of their new Silvestri rivals, too...)
Steve Long
Mar 25th, '04, 03:16 AM
You'll see the Vandaleurs and Sylvestris both, have no fear. ;)
AlHazred
Mar 25th, '04, 04:57 AM
One of my favorite mystic/psionic elements of the old Champions Universe was the Blood. Will they show up in the new Universe? Will there be equivalents? This is what I want to know...
Steve Long
Mar 25th, '04, 08:29 AM
No, the Blood will not show up. IIRC, the rights to them were returned to Aaron Allston long ago.
AlHazred
Mar 25th, '04, 08:46 AM
Ah, well. How much detail can we expect on the Witchcraft-related organizations, the Trismegistus Council and the Circle of the Scarlet Moon?
Supreme Serpent
Mar 25th, '04, 09:01 AM
No, the Blood will not show up. IIRC, the rights to them were returned to Aaron Allston long ago.
Oh well. Maybe someday Aaron will get around to doing up the "Aaron Allston Sourcebook" and include Strike Force, Blood, etc. with writeups/advice on fitting them in to Champions/SAS/M&M.
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