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Steve Long
Mar 17th, '08, 10:50 AM
Here's our back-cover blurb for The PS238 RPG:

SCHOOL IS IN SESSION!

Welcome to PS238, the world’s first school for metaprodigies — children with superpowers! They have to learn how to be superheroes along with their math, history, and social studies, and PS238 is where they do that... and occasionally get into an adventure or two.

The PS238 Roleplaying Game brings you the fun and touching world of PS238 from Aaron Williams’s acclaimed comic book. Using the award-winning HERO System rules, it lets you create and play your own metaprodigy character. It’s fun for children of all ages!

The PS238 Roleplaying Game includes:

—a complete history and description of the school, and the world it’s a part of

—character sheets for the major faculty members, include Cristina Kyle, Herschel Clay, Vashti Imperia, and Principal Cranston

—character sheets for your fellow students, including Captain Clarinet, the Flea, the Emerald Gauntlet, Suzi Fusion, Tyler Marlocke, and Zodon

—a chapter on gamemastering PS238 games, with advice on adventure creation, GM-only secret information about the school and the world, and character sheets for villains and NPCs like Charles Brigman, the Praetorian Academy Centurions, and the Revenant

—a complete basic version of the HERO System rules specifically tailored for use in PS238 Roleplaying Game campaigns

So get your homework ready and make sure you put your costume in your backpack — it’s time for superpowered schoolyard adventures with The PS238 Roleplaying Game!

ISBN: 978-1-58366-109-3
SKU: DOJHERO229
Price: $31.99

Edsel
Mar 17th, '08, 04:14 PM
I am so looking forward to buying a copy of this.

Comic
Mar 17th, '08, 05:43 PM
Woot!

I am incredibly pumped. This looks fantastic.

I love how the blurb takes a shot across the bows of grammar teachers, too, by actually ending a sentence with a preposition.

(There's a funny story about the plagiarism of a mistake by a drug-addled drunkard that resulted in the rule against prepositions, but it's more funny strange than funny ha-ha, and long, too, so.. omitting it.)

archermoo
Mar 18th, '08, 08:11 AM
Woot!

I am incredibly pumped. This looks fantastic.

I love how the blurb takes a shot across the bows of grammar teachers, too, by actually ending a sentence with a preposition.

(There's a funny story about the plagiarism of a mistake by a drug-addled drunkard that resulted in the rule against prepositions, but it's more funny strange than funny ha-ha, and long, too, so.. omitting it.)

There is a literary magazine that used to have (and might still have) an ongoing contest to see who can put together a useful, grammatically correct sentence that ends with the largest number of consecutive prepositions. The winner at the time it was shown to me was something like 8. :)

nexus
Mar 18th, '08, 12:24 PM
I'm really excited about this book, a licensed product for Hero System!

Sociotard
Mar 18th, '08, 04:41 PM
I wonder how Steve will write up Tyler's common sense as a power?

McCoy
Mar 18th, '08, 07:19 PM
I love how the blurb takes a shot across the bows of grammar teachers, too, by actually ending a sentence with a preposition.

Chaucer ended sentences with prepositions.

Shakespeare ended sentences with prepositions.

The editors of the King James Bible ended sentences with prepositions.

Produce an example of English more prestigious than Chaucer, Shakespeare and the Bible, and then and only then will I consider recasting a sentence for no other reason than that's not how Julius Caesar would have said it.

Steve Long
Mar 19th, '08, 08:38 AM
Folx, if you want to discuss grammar, please take it to NGD. ;)

casualplayer
Mar 21st, '08, 04:18 PM
Folx, if you want to discuss grammar, please take it to NGD. ;)

Still, you know that everyone that posted was interested enough to be in the thread in the first place.

PS238 is a "Top of the Comic Stack" purchase any week it comes out. This RPG book is the same, a marriage between two dear friends. And we finally get to see a character sheet for Revenant, hopefully Stackpoleriffic!

Steve Long
Mar 21st, '08, 05:06 PM
Well, I showed Mike the book and Revenant's character sheet at StellarCon last weekend and he seemed quite pleased with the whole package. ;) It's a pretty simple sheet, though, in keeping with the tone of the game; if I statted him out for a regular Champions book it'd probably be more detailed.

casualplayer
Mar 21st, '08, 05:09 PM
Well, I showed Mike the book and Revenant's character sheet at StellarCon last weekend and he seemed quite pleased with the whole package. ;) It's a pretty simple sheet, though, in keeping with the tone of the game; if I statted him out for a regular Champions book it'd probably be more detailed.

So he's not the Happy Harbinger of Justice? Drat.

Spence
Mar 27th, '08, 01:57 PM
Out of curiosity how much of a change are the PS238 character sheets? I can't order till I get back from travel (looks like I may be on the road next week) since I prefer to get the book rather than purchase a gift for some unknown mail thief ;). The decription implies that it is not a Hero genre/setting book but rather a full blown separate stand alone RPG with the HeroSystem providing the core structure.

I wish I could see a couple screen shots :D

Steve Long
Mar 27th, '08, 02:55 PM
They're basically the same sheets, just a touch simplified.

It is effectively a standalone game. It has something like Sidekick built right into it.

ghost-angel
Mar 27th, '08, 03:40 PM
Got the PDF (and book on the way when Tina gets a chance)...

First Impression: This is an excellent introduction product.
I skipped right to the Character Sheets to see how they were presented, pretty much as any other Hero Product. There is one touch that I find absolutely brilliant - there are notes on how to work with, use and treat some of the Powers and Power builds.

Good treatment of Guardian Angel BTW :thumbup:

The rules section looks pretty sweet. . . I so need to get caught up on reviews. Hopefully this, Stronghold and a host of other stuff in the next two weeks.

voodoo54
Apr 4th, '08, 06:51 AM
Where's the picture of the cover?!:(

Lord Liaden
Apr 4th, '08, 10:33 AM
It is odd that the cover hasn't made it into the Online Store listing yet. Fortunately, Aaron Williams put up a .jpg of his cover illo here: http://nodwick.humor.gamespy.com/ps238/images/rpgcover01.jpg

Edsel
Apr 4th, '08, 06:22 PM
I picked up a copy at my FLGS today. I will be studying it while I watch BSG tonight. :)

McCoy
Apr 9th, '08, 01:10 AM
So, when is someone going to start a game on Hero Central?

Karmakaze
Apr 9th, '08, 05:43 AM
I'll be obtaining a copy shortly, but I'm not sure I have time/energy to run another game...

Sociotard
Apr 9th, '08, 08:18 AM
Wait, are those two evil geniuses playing tictactoe on the moon? That's awesome.

I still feel sorry for Moonshadow. That kid needs a better costume.

Steve Long
Apr 9th, '08, 11:29 AM
Wait, are those two evil geniuses playing tictactoe on the moon? That's awesome.

Yup, that's Zodon and Victor von Fogg. In part the cover was created just to showcase that sight gag. ;)


I still feel sorry for Moonshadow. That kid needs a better costume.

Well, he pretty much picked it out himself -- see Issue #9. ;)

brionl
Apr 9th, '08, 03:42 PM
Wait, are those two evil geniuses playing tictactoe on the moon? That's awesome.

I still feel sorry for Moonshadow. That kid needs a better costume.

The moon thing is a lot harder to notice on the actual book, they wrapped the picture around to the back cover, and the moon is mostly on the spine.

So, this is Pre-teen champions? :D
When can we expect the PS238-Ravenswood Academy cross-over? This is very low powered supers, I noticed most of the students in the book didn't even spend all of their points.

I'm fiddling around with a couple of new students, Timmy and Tammy Trumble, aka The Trouble Twins.

jushin53
Apr 10th, '08, 07:18 AM
I got this and yesterday and it is just simply a great book...one of the best books done during 5th edition. I'd never read anything PS238 prior to the book but I plan on getting everything I can on it now. A few things:

- If Sidekick is HERO system-lite then the version in PS238 is Champions-lite. In fact, reading it brought me back to when I bought Champions 3rd edition in terms of ease of play and no optional mishmash. The rules here are just note-perfect. I would say that Steve even took some ideas from across the Champions line, condensed them, and created the rules set for the book. Great job....

- The sourcebook portion is very complete...I didn't feel like I was missing anything and it really got the "feel" of ps238 across.

- A question about Revenant: there was a character named in Champions 3 (the rules supplement) Revenant that kind of has the same appearance...is that the same character?

I HIGHLY recommend this book and hope to do a full review of it for other sites shortly...

Steve Long
Apr 10th, '08, 10:49 AM
- A question about Revenant: there was a character named in Champions 3 (the rules supplement) Revenant that kind of has the same appearance...is that the same character?

Indeed they are. The character was created by Mike Stackpole as one of his PCs long ago. He used his experiences with Revenant to write some useful stuff about characterization for C3, and he later allowed Aaron to use Revenant in PS238. I think Mike helped shepherd the whole project along so he could ultimately see a copy of Revenant's character sheet (albeit one by me, not him) in print. ;)

Karmakaze
Apr 10th, '08, 11:22 AM
Somewhere I have the anthology that has a Revenant short story in it, but I can't find it.

Tim
Apr 13th, '08, 07:33 PM
Time to go to the online store.

Dynamo
Apr 14th, '08, 02:52 PM
Somewhere I have the anthology that has a Revenant short story in it, but I can't find it.That sounds familiar. I think I have that collection, too. Of course, most of my books are packed in prep for a move this summer, so it's not like I can easily find out.

Dang, I remember it being a good story, too.

brionl
Apr 17th, '08, 09:30 PM
I found this pretty helpful for deciding how big my kids should be http://www.keepkidshealthy.com/growthcharts/

Susano
Apr 21st, '08, 02:20 PM
I had a chance to glance through the book over the weekend and was very impressed with how nice it looked. I also was happy to see a lot of background tidbits on the characters. On the other hand, I now can't wait for the next trade collection, as I really want to know what happens with the alien invasion!

Armitage
Apr 21st, '08, 03:34 PM
That sounds familiar. I think I have that collection, too. Of course, most of my books are packed in prep for a move this summer, so it's not like I can easily find out.

Dang, I remember it being a good story, too.

"Peer Review"
It's in Superheroes, edited by John Varley.

Tim
Apr 21st, '08, 06:22 PM
Got mine this weekend. I LOVE the picture they used for Franklin (the Whiz). And I like how the aplication for minionhood was included in the back.

Steve Long
Apr 22nd, '08, 04:55 AM
Credit for including the application goes to Andy, who's great at thinking up funny little touches like that. ;)

Alric
Apr 26th, '08, 01:04 AM
You should put up a PDF version of the application so we can print out copies.

Sociotard
Apr 26th, '08, 01:33 AM
You could just buy the book on PDF. Then you could do that automatically.

brionl
Apr 26th, '08, 10:20 AM
So, is there a Hero Designer Template for PS 238 coming out soon, or should I post my interim/partial one up on the web site?

Tim
Apr 26th, '08, 04:45 PM
At a local comic con today, asked a semi-F LGS if PS238 was out. He said it wasn't. When I said I had already gotten it, he still insisted it wasn't out. And I must have gotten an advanced copy.

:rolleyes:

Susano
Apr 26th, '08, 06:50 PM
Cool! So I got a preview copy? Thanks Tina!

brionl
Apr 27th, '08, 10:04 AM
Oh, it's out. Even after I bought my copy, the FLN game store had at least one more left.

NestorDRod
May 12th, '08, 09:23 AM
At a local comic con today, asked a semi-F LGS if PS238 was out. He said it wasn't. When I said I had already gotten it, he still insisted it wasn't out. And I must have gotten an advanced copy.

:rolleyes:

I checked with my FLGS and he says the regional distributor is sold out of copies.

I guess that means the book's a hit. :)

I'm borrowing Susano's copy to tide me over until I can buy my own copy (yeah, I know I could order one direct, but I want to sponsor my FLGS and encourage them to carry more Hero stuff) and I noticed while reading it that Rockslide is described as having been the tactical mind of the UoJ and very good at reading combat situations, but his character sheet doesn't have either Tactics or Teamwork.

I jumped back to the Character Creation section and, sure enough, neither Skill is included. What was the rationale behind not including them, considering a recognizable part of the theme of the books is the kids learning to cooperate and work as a team? :think:

Susano
May 12th, '08, 09:25 AM
I just re-read all 5 volumes of the trades back-to-back while doing laundry and really enjoyed the story(ies). There are also some rather funny in-jokes and great character concepts.

Steve Long
May 13th, '08, 09:40 AM
I jumped back to the Character Creation section and, sure enough, neither Skill is included. What was the rationale behind not including them, considering a recognizable part of the theme of the books is the kids learning to cooperate and work as a team?

The Sidekick rules are of course deliberately simplified, and the PS238 rules are an adaptation of them. They exclude the Coordinated Attack rules, so including the Teamwork Skill would be kinda pointless. ;) Tactics was excluded from PS238 as not being worth the space in a game focused on little kids who aren't that well-trained. While it's true that they're in training, I don't think we see enough of that being applied in the comic to justify including Tactics, and in any event the vague nature of the Skill would only complicate some PS238 games I think. If you want to add either back in, you're welcome to, but they're not a part of the official version. ;)

Susano
May 13th, '08, 09:49 AM
I certainly see Moonshadow getting something akin to Tactics if a full-blown 5th Edition version of PS238. He certainly comes up with enough plans to save the day!

I also see he eventually becomes Revenant's sidekick/partner in crime fighting! Huzzah!

archermoo
May 13th, '08, 09:50 AM
The Sidekick rules are of course deliberately simplified, and the PS238 rules are an adaptation of them. They exclude the Coordinated Attack rules, so including the Teamwork Skill would be kinda pointless. ;) Tactics was excluded from PS238 as not being worth the space in a game focused on little kids who aren't that well-trained. While it's true that they're in training, I don't think we see enough of that being applied in the comic to justify including Tactics, and in any event the vague nature of the Skill would only complicate some PS238 games I think. If you want to add either back in, you're welcome to, but they're not a part of the official version. ;)

Which is to say that while they are working on Tactics and Teamwork, they haven't gotten there yet. Once they have, they should be graduating up to the full Hero rules. ;)

NestorDRod
May 13th, '08, 11:40 AM
Which is to say that while they are working on Tactics and Teamwork, they haven't gotten there yet. Once they have, they should be graduating up to the full Hero rules. ;)

I suppose, but as Susano mentioned, there are a number of times in the books where Tyler demonstrates the skill quite nicely, organizing his teammates in working together against a threat (the issue with them in the buried space station being a good example).

Eh, as Steve said, there's nothing stopping me from adding it to the skill list. It is nice that the rules look to be a true subset of the Hero System, as opposed to some variant offshoot. Definitely a plus. :thumbup:

Egyptoid
May 20th, '08, 03:02 PM
why dont the FLGS have this book ?

ghost-angel
May 20th, '08, 03:44 PM
They do.

Any FLGS that does not have this book is a complete and totla breakdown on their part and/or the part of their distributor.

Not Hero Games.

Because the F in FLGS usually mean ----You

archermoo
May 21st, '08, 10:54 AM
why dont the FLGS have this book ?

There certainly are stores that do have it. If your local store doesn't they should check with their distributer, as the book has been available from distributers for a while now. If they have problems getting it from a distributer, they can get it directly from Hero.

NestorDRod
May 21st, '08, 12:21 PM
Well, like I said, my FLGS doesn't have it in stock, and neither (according to them) does the distributor. So I'm waiting for the order to be filled.

Yeah, I could order direct, but I want to sponsor my FLGS. I'd like for them to stick around, especially since they host HeroCon. :)

archermoo
May 21st, '08, 01:20 PM
Well, like I said, my FLGS doesn't have it in stock, and neither (according to them) does the distributor. So I'm waiting for the order to be filled.

Yeah, I could order direct, but I want to sponsor my FLGS. I'd like for them to stick around, especially since they host HeroCon. :)

Actually I was suggesting that if the store can't get it from their distributer they can get it directly from Hero. You get to support your FLGS, Hero gets another sale. Win/win. :D

The distributer obviously could do so themselves, but it sounds like they don't want to for whatever reason.

ghost-angel
May 21st, '08, 02:15 PM
Distributors have decided, for whatever reason, that the Customer does not get to decide what they would like to purchase anymore.

You could play Distributors like you could play the stock market, buying Puts and Calls and speculating what new products they'll actually stock.

archermoo
May 21st, '08, 03:20 PM
Distributors have decided, for whatever reason, that the Customer does not get to decide what they would like to purchase anymore.

You could play Distributors like you could play the stock market, buying Puts and Calls and speculating what new products they'll actually stock.

Generally they only order things when they think that they have enough interest in it to order enough to get a good discount from whomever they are buying it from. If they don't have it in stock they generally tell their customers (the stores) that it isn't available right now. Their customers will frequently assume that means that the distributer can't get it, rather than that they just don't have any and aren't willing to order just one.

While I certainly can't guarantee it (not being a Hero employee or anything) I'm pretty sure that Hero isn't out of stock on PS238. So if the distributer wanted more copies, they could get them. Or rather than paying the distributer to order it from Hero, the store in question could just order it directly from Hero themselves. Save a step and get it quicker. :)

ghost-angel
May 21st, '08, 06:02 PM
Generally they only order things when they think that they have enough interest in it to order enough to get a good discount from whomever they are buying it from. If they don't have it in stock they generally tell their customers (the stores) that it isn't available right now. Their customers will frequently assume that means that the distributer can't get it, rather than that they just don't have any and aren't willing to order just one.

While I certainly can't guarantee it (not being a Hero employee or anything) I'm pretty sure that Hero isn't out of stock on PS238. So if the distributer wanted more copies, they could get them. Or rather than paying the distributer to order it from Hero, the store in question could just order it directly from Hero themselves. Save a step and get it quicker. :)

The problem arises when the monkey in the store assumes that their distributor can't get it (read: isn't in the distributors warehouse RIGHT NOW) that it's out of print or similar. How many posts on the boards have we seen where someone goes "My FLGS says it's not in print but I saw a copy!" or the like.

And that's part of the problem, a complete breakdown in communication and the Distributors deciding what they think will sell, not going "this is in print, we do not stock copies, if you order it and enough other people order it or tell us to order it we will get it."

And no. some stores CAN'T order direct. Some stores have managed to back themselves into some kind of corner where they are only allowed to order from one source - Example: Mille High Comics can only order from Diamond. How do I know? I tried to get PS238 Vol.2 - they promptly told me it was out of print. I promptly found two places that had it (the publisher and amazon). Think they could contact the publisher for me and get some copies? Nope. "Sorry, we can only order from Diamond." He said, "And Diamond says it's out of print." (incidentally my wife tried the same thing with boxes to hold comic books, Diamond was out and listed them "not available" ... what'd the comic shop say? "They must make them in batches or something." ... She ordered them somewhere else.

I hate the LGS in this hobby. They are, in my experience, proving to be retarded beyond belief.

So as not to completely derail this poor thread... I'm writing the review of PS238 and Stronghold both this week - among others. I expect to start up my Review Barrage again shortly.

TheQuestionMan
May 25th, '08, 12:25 AM
A note to Forums Members reguarding Distributors. Apparently the Distributors can tel the difference between an Published Online Comic and a RPG base on an Online Comic. My FLAGS made some inquiries and cleared the confussion up for the Distributor. Hero Games should be recieving more orders for PS238 soon.


Cheers


QM

BigJackBrass
May 26th, '08, 06:25 AM
So as not to completely derail this poor thread... I'm writing the review of PS238 and Stronghold both this week...
Looking forward to those. I'm hoping to take a look at the books at the UK Games Expo next weekend, although last year (the first year for the Con) I couldn't find a single HERO System book for sale :(

Yansuf
Jun 2nd, '08, 05:35 PM
The Sidekick rules are of course deliberately simplified, and the PS238 rules are an adaptation of them. They exclude the Coordinated Attack rules, so including the Teamwork Skill would be kinda pointless. ;) Tactics was excluded from PS238 as not being worth the space in a game focused on little kids who aren't that well-trained. While it's true that they're in training, I don't think we see enough of that being applied in the comic to justify including Tactics, and in any event the vague nature of the Skill would only complicate some PS238 games I think. If you want to add either back in, you're welcome to, but they're not a part of the official version. ;)

Prospero (PS238-pg. 40) has Familiarity with Tactics.
Is that a glitch?

Steve Long
Jun 3rd, '08, 06:12 AM
No; he's a soldier. He's not like the other kids; he has actual military training. You might say it's a glitch to the extent that Tactics isn't in the book, but Hero fans can figure it out. ;)

pnewman
Jun 21st, '08, 10:15 PM
Re: Distributors and retailers

A more accuarate description of what distributors and retailers do is - Guess how many they should order based on their pre-orders. When stores that pre-order from that distributor don't bother to pre-order than the distributors under-order and sell out. Then the few good shops that do sensible pre-orders get the products in, sell out of their pre-order in a month or two, go to re-order, and find out they can't because the distributor is out of stock.

With the consolidation among distributors the store often doesn't have another good source for ordering the product. With recent gas price increases shipping costs have also gone up a lot, making air freighting games economically unjustifable, and requiring slower ground shipments, making out of stock periods even longer.

pnewman
Jun 21st, '08, 10:21 PM
Back to actual discussion of PS 238 -

According to the PS238 character sheet (page 77, not page 75 as stated in the index) characteristics have a base value of 10, as in most HERO games. However the character write ups for all the kid characters show them as having starting characteristics of 5 (although write-ups for adults clearly base their characteristics on 10's)

Is the character sheet wrong, or are the write-ups wrong? I'd say kids should be based on 5, and that the sheet is wrong.

Susano
Jun 22nd, '08, 04:48 AM
Back to actual discussion of PS 238 -

According to the PS238 character sheet (page 77, not page 75 as stated in the index) characteristics have a base value of 10, as in most HERO games. However the character write ups for all the kid characters show them as having starting characteristics of 5 (although write-ups for adults clearly base their characteristics on 10's)

Is the character sheet wrong, or are the write-ups wrong? I'd say kids should be based on 5, and that the sheet is wrong.

Page 83. All characters start with a 5 in all Primary Characteristics, except COM, which is an 8. Adults have a 10 in all Primary Characteristics.

ghost-angel
Sep 7th, '08, 10:02 AM
The Upside:

PS 238 is a Superheroic Setting based on the comic of the same name. The book includes information on the PS 238 school, and running a Champions game as a group of first graders. Though it should be noted that the comic, and therefore the approach of the book, is not aimed at kids. It's just about kids.

This is also the first Hero Setting Book to include the rules with the setting, making this an all-in-one book suitable for beginners to the system. The ruleset in the book is essentially the same rules in the Hero System Sidekick book, which is a slimmed down version of the full rules.

The book is divided into two main parts, Chapters One through Four focus on PS238, setting up and running games at the school. Chapters Five through Nine are the System Rules.

Chapter One - Welcome To PS238. This is a short introduction chapter introduces the school and world of the comic in brief. While it goes over all the major aspects of the world of PS238, the more familiar with the comic one is the better.

Chapter Two - Faculty And Staff. This chapter goes right in and provides full Character Sheet Write-Ups for all the major staff of the school, including backgrounds. A few of the minor staff are listed at the end of the chapter as well.

Chapter Three - The Student Body. The first part of this chapter is a very brief look at the rules and schedule of a PS238 Student. However, since this is supposed to be about superheroes and not classrooms, the schedule leaves a lot of time open to adventure in. After that it provides Character Sheets for all the main characters of the comics, and descriptions of all the minor characters that have appeared to date. The minor character's don't have full write-ups but they do have a short listing of some meta-capabilities along with them in case you want to use their powers in a game.

Chapter Four - Gamemastering PS238. This is one of the more useful chapters for actually using the setting in a game. Starting with setting up adventures that fit within the general theme of PS238, as well as just some general advice on good adventures for seven year old superheroes. Sixteen adventure ideas are presented right off the bat. Next is the GMs Section which provides some background information on the PS238 World. As well as Character Sheets for the comics main villains, and NPCs.

If you own the comics a lot of this first part of the book helps consolidate all them issues into a single decent source of information. If you're just interested in some general advice on setting up and running grade school level superheroes then the first part of Chapter Three and most of Chapter Four will be the most useful.

Chapter Five - An Introduction To The Hero System. The chapter introduces the Hero System, the underlying concepts and ideas behind the system and briefly covers all the elements of playing with the system itself.

Chapter Six - Character Creation. This chapter covers all the elements needed to create a Character using Hero. It is also the longest chapter in the book. Character Creation in Hero can be the most time consuming aspect of the system as a whole, but once you're done with that it helps to facilitate easy game play. Before the book gets into the mechanics of Hero it starts out with some solid advice on Character Origin. Starting with Archetype, it includes twelve types of characters (actually, eleven and advice on not using Archetypes at all). And then it goes into one of the biggest elements of the Genre - the Revealing Flaw, a personal difficulty the character has to face, deal with, or otherwise make sure isn't revealed to the wrong people. Character Points is PS238 specific, covering the basic block of a Hero Character - Points to buy abilities with. The rest of the Chapter covers all the same rules contained in the Sidekick Rulebook; Skills, Powers, Perks, Talents and other game elements. Before it gets into the Powers themselves, the book does provide a section of prebuilt Superpowers and Gadgets. Most of these are very simple mechanical builds that you can use to speed up character creation a great deal.

Chapter Seven - Combat And Adventuring. This section covers all the aspects of getting into Combat. For the most part this chapter is really the Rules For Playing using Hero. It covers all the major elements; Senses, how combat is organized, how damaged is dealt with, the different choices and elements of combat itself, and recovering from being hurt.

Chapter Eight - The Environment. This very short chapter of the book covers all the dangerous stuff that isn't combat oriented. Most notably the effects of interacting with dangerous elements (electricity, fire, etc) and how to break stuff.

Chapter Nine - Equipment. This final Rules Chapter covers how to create Vehicles, Weapons, and Armor in the Hero System. This is the most truncated aspect of the rules, leaving out several aspects of Equipment found in the main rules (notably Bases, Automatons and Computers).

One of the things about the book is it's hard to tell if the organization of the book is helpful. By starting out with the Setting, and presenting a large number of Character Sheets right at the start the experienced Hero Player will be able to jump right in. But a novice will find themselves starting with the middle of the book first. Since the book is aimed at new players by including the Rules instead of referencing the main rules like most supplements it might have been better to introduce the System first, then the Setting. As it stands, if you have no Hero experience half of the setting section is not immediately useful to you.

The Downside:

The Equipment section really should have included at least Computer and AI construction rules in them. The other missing elements aren't going to much of an issue in this type of game.

The Otherside:

The source book is about using the PS238 Universe as a game setting, to that extent it has very little information regarding genre conventions of mixing grade schoolers and superpowers. If you're a fan of the comics, and always wanted to run a game in that universe then this is going to be the book you want.

And if you aren't a regular hero Player, or are new to Hero, by including the rules it assures you don't have to pick up any other books to begin playing.

Michael Hopcroft
Sep 27th, '08, 02:30 PM
Finally got my paws on this (buying the PDF from Hero because space for books is at a premium -- at best). I will say I am very favorably impressed.

One of my favorite things has nothing to do with the setting -- it's that Steve included a simple chart for calculating OCV vs DCV that reminded me of the charts in the old, classic DC Heroes. This is something I would like to see in 6th Edition, actually, to make it easier for new players to grasp this substantial and essential nuance of the Hero System.

I also love the character writeups. I'm curious about one thing, though:

What finally happens to Tyler? Does he ever come back to school?

Karmakaze
Sep 27th, '08, 04:01 PM
I also love the character writeups. I'm curious about one thing, though:

What finally happens to Tyler? Does he ever come back to school?

As of the last issue I read, he was in a stasis chamber waiting for a cure to the plague.