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Corven_Ren
Apr 25th, '08, 07:24 PM
I have decided to go ahead and try the campagin I suggested here.

http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65133.

This thread is the official call for players. I am thinking of a roster of 5-7 characters.

Here is another link to the timeline and also the basic campaign background.

http://www.herogames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1261617&postcount=1

Campaign Background....For years the Justice Squadron protected the world from superhuman and alien threats...Dr. Doom, Kill Ratio, Dr. Destroyer, the Skrulls. But these major threats eventually began to fade away. Dr. Doom made peace with the world and became one of the world's most beloved rulers. Dr. Destroyer was finally captured and is now in prison. Kill Ratio was last seen flying into space after a intense battle with the Hulk. And no alien has dared attack Earth. So the in 2008 the Squadron decided to disband, and while some minor threats occured, smaller groups of heroes, such as Vigilant & The Forces of Nature were able to take care of these. Now 20 years later a new Dr. Destoyer has emerged, Kill Ratio has returned and there are rumors of an invasion by an unknown alien speices. The Squadron is needed again. You are the child of one of the heroes of old.

Points 450+150 disads. Can be the child of any combination of DC/Marvel hero (heroes) Or even one of my custom heroes mentioned in the time line. If you want to go that route pm me and I will provide a character sheet so you could base powers of of that. I will post a Justice Squadron package later

You will have until my birthday (May 17th) to submit your characters. All I ask is that you read the timeline carfully so you dont make a combination that would not be viable. If you do not see a specifice character you wish to ask about please PM me.

House of M, Civil War did not happen. Inferno, X-Tinction Agenda (minus Cable) and Rise of the Midnight Sons story lines did. Certain villains also do not exist (Apocolypse, Mr. Sinister & Darksied for example) Also there is no mythtlogical pantheons.

Log-Man
Apr 25th, '08, 07:27 PM
Sweet! I'll have to come up with something :thumbup:

aylwin13
Apr 25th, '08, 07:37 PM
I'll start working on Wildcard this weekend. I tweaked his pic, and did one in his civilian clothes.

Corven_Ren
Apr 25th, '08, 07:49 PM
Oh I forgot to mention this will be hosted at Hero Central. Also like many of you here I've been messing around with the Hero-Matic heres a couple of pics I did of the late Superman's twin children. Who would be in their early 40's at the begining of the campagin.

Querysphinx
Apr 25th, '08, 08:12 PM
Interesting. I may make a character. I have more ideas than I can shake a stick at.

Of course, concepts and personalities are most important but....

how many points?

McCoy
Apr 25th, '08, 08:52 PM
Also there is no mythtlogical pantheons.
Eternals / New Gods count as mythological pantheons or not?

Corven_Ren
Apr 25th, '08, 08:57 PM
Interesting. I may make a character. I have more ideas than I can shake a stick at.

Of course, concepts and personalities are most important but....

how many points?

450 + 150 disads

Corven_Ren
Apr 25th, '08, 09:04 PM
Eternals / New Gods count as mythological pantheons or not?

No..I count them more like an alien race like the Inhumans (which are mentioned in the time line. (I know very little about the New Gods so I would have to read up on whoever you make a child of one of them as).

Querysphinx
Apr 25th, '08, 09:15 PM
Also, are we stuck with literal children or can w go with the more generic term "heirs."

Corven_Ren
Apr 25th, '08, 09:34 PM
Also, are we stuck with literal children or can w go with the more generic term "heirs."

I would prefer children (or grandchildren in the case of some heroes) but if you want to be an heir..that would be fine with a really good back story. If this campaign was not based 20 years in the future... the current Green Arrow is not Oliver Queen's son but an heir to his legacy. (he's actually Hawkeye & Black Widows Son)

Corven_Ren
Apr 26th, '08, 08:43 AM
Ok Heres the Justice Squadron Package


6 Justice Squadron Communicator: HRRP (Radio Group) (12 Active Points); OAF (-1)
5 Hall of Justice & Hoverjet Donation: Vehicles & Bases
3 Reputation: Justice Squadron Member (A large group) 14-, +1/+1d6
5 Fringe Benefit: International Police Powers
3 Paramedics 11-
3 Systems Operation 11-
2 KS: Justice Squadron Foes 11-
1 TF: Hoverjet
2 KS: International Law 11-

As far as disadvantages go

You must have some form of Code against killing and
5 Social Limitation: Must follow Justice Squadron Rules (Occasionally, Minor)


Active Points 75 (May have one power with 90 points)

Corven_Ren
Apr 26th, '08, 08:54 AM
Just thought I would post some pics for use in the campaign. This is Kill Ratio

RocketsRedGlare
Apr 26th, '08, 10:29 AM
Sounds great! The hardest part will be settling on one concept!

Corven_Ren
Apr 26th, '08, 10:39 AM
Sounds great! The hardest part will be settling on one concept!

Well you do have until May 17th to come up with a concept. Just as I said above please note any pre-mentioned reltionships in the time-line before making you character.

Checkmate
Apr 26th, '08, 08:47 PM
Okay here's my first idea. Really just the son of two DC character, Garth/Aqualad/Tempest and Tula/Aquagirl. I haven't written up the Personality, or history yet (a lot of time will pass by the 17th and who knows what my A.D.D. self will come up with by then).

Corven_Ren
Apr 26th, '08, 09:43 PM
Ok first submission is in and...while I hate to do this, Checkmate, after all your hard work. Aquaman, Lad, Girl are not in my universe. Please check the time line....if a hero is not listed you wish to base your character upon please ask. My timeline is nowhere complete and I have not worked every one in. However when creating the meshed universe I decided to only have Namor.

McCoy
Apr 26th, '08, 09:45 PM
No..I count them more like an alien race like the Inhumans (which are mentioned in the time line. (I know very little about the New Gods so I would have to read up on whoever you make a child of one of them as).
OK, having asked that, it becomes moot.

Thinking of Tornado Fist, Great-granddaughter of the Original Red Tornado, Daughter of Cyclone on her DC side, Daughter of Iron Fist on her Marvel side.

Corven_Ren
Apr 26th, '08, 10:32 PM
OK, having asked that, it becomes moot.

Thinking of Tornado Fist, Great-granddaughter of the Original Red Tornado, Daughter of Cyclone on her DC side, Daughter of Iron Fist on her Marvel side.

Ironfist is someone I was planning on adding to the timeline and even thought there is no JSA I could see working in all the various Red Tornado's (I read Cyclones Wikipedia entry and she was Red tornado for a while to)

McCoy
Apr 27th, '08, 03:06 AM
Ironfist is someone I was planning on adding to the timeline and even thought there is no JSA I could see working in all the various Red Tornado's (I read Cyclones Wikipedia entry and she was Red tornado for a while to)
Thank you!

Querysphinx
Apr 27th, '08, 07:41 AM
Since this thing is taking place 20 years in the future. What technological paradigm is there? I mean do we have skycars...

http://www.moller.com/files/m400w3.jpg

Do we have personal robots...

http://www.mobilewhack.com/images/sony_aibo_ers_7m3_robot_dog_1.jpg

Do we have Mr. Fusion...

http://images.wikia.com/bttf/images/f/f2/Refueling.jpg

Do we have the holodeck...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d3/Holodeck2.jpg

Do we have a space elevator...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/83/SpaceElevatorAnchor.jpg/436px-SpaceElevatorAnchor.jpg

Or how about a cure for cancer?

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/05/03/sciwinners/images/pikovskproj.gif

Checkmate
Apr 27th, '08, 08:58 AM
Ok first submission is in and...while I hate to do this, Checkmate, after all your hard work. Aquaman, Lad, Girl are not in my universe. Please check the time line....if a hero is not listed you wish to base your character upon please ask. My timeline is nowhere complete and I have not worked every one in. However when creating the meshed universe I decided to only have Namor.
Bummer, but no biggie. Stats and powers are the easy part, the history, personality is what takes me a long time. I'll keep thinking.

Just to make sure, do I have to have 1 Marvel parent and 1 DC parent, or can they both be from one as long as they fit in the time line?

Querysphinx
Apr 27th, '08, 09:16 AM
I have two ideas at the moment. On is Heather "Montana" Pym. The other is Summer "Plastyque" Storm-Richards. Is there a problem with either of these lineages?

Corven_Ren
Apr 27th, '08, 09:24 AM
Bummer, but no biggie. Stats and powers are the easy part, the history, personality is what takes me a long time. I'll keep thinking.

Just to make sure, do I have to have 1 Marvel parent and 1 DC parent, or can they both be from one as long as they fit in the time line?

Parental mixing does not matter. One of each, both Marvel, Both DC, child of one of my custom heroes mentioned in the time line.

Corven_Ren
Apr 27th, '08, 09:44 AM
I have two ideas at the moment. On is Heather "Montana" Pym. The other is Summer "Plastyque" Storm-Richards. Is there a problem with either of these lineages?

No I have never written anything about andy Pym decendants, however Sue & Reed had two children in the timeline Franklin & Valeria...would Summer be the child of one of these.

Querysphinx
Apr 27th, '08, 10:02 AM
No I have never written anything about andy Pym decendants, however Sue & Reed had two children in the timeline Franklin & Valeria...would Summer be the child of one of these.
Let's see. In 2028 Franklin would be 32ish and Valeria would be 29ish so unless they started having kids when they were underage, their offspring aren't an option.

Have got any specific plans for Valeria? I could just use the name?

Corven_Ren
Apr 27th, '08, 10:15 AM
Let's see. In 2028 Franklin would be 32ish and Valeria would be 29ish so unless they started having kids when they were underage, their offspring aren't an option.

Have got any specific plans for Valeria? I could just use the name?

No specific plans..so you can just use the name

Log-Man
Apr 27th, '08, 12:00 PM
Query: What is the status of the Elongated Man? Could I create the child of Ralph and Sue?

Querysphinx
Apr 27th, '08, 12:18 PM
Query: What is the status of the Elongated Man? Could I create the child of Ralph and Sue?
This is Query, and how should I know? ;)

If you're planning on doing a stretcher, I'll just drop my idea of doing Valeria "Plastique" Richards.

Corven_Ren
Apr 27th, '08, 01:01 PM
Just a few heroes that I know are not on the time line who do exist.

Hawkman & Hawkgirl (The ones from Thanagar)
Power Man
Spider Woman (Jessica Drew)
Morbius
Quicksilver
Scarlett Witch
Wonder Man
Ms. Marvel (Carol Danvers)

(no Log-Man no Elongatedman)

Log-Man
Apr 27th, '08, 01:33 PM
This is Query, and how should I know? ;) :slap:

If you're planning on doing a stretcher, I'll just drop my idea of doing Valeria "Plastique" Richards.
Actually not planning a stretcher. I'm trying to think of good parental relationship potential, and they're a good start. I don't want another stretcher at this point, though. My plan is still evolving. Probably intangibility... :think:

Log-Man
Apr 27th, '08, 01:34 PM
Just a few heroes that I know are not on the time line who do exist.

(no Log-Man noe Elongatedman)

Sorry, just want to be clear: do you mean EM doesn't exist, or that he exists but you have nothing definite yet?

Corven_Ren
Apr 27th, '08, 02:18 PM
Sorry, just want to be clear: do you mean EM doesn't exist, or that he exists but you have nothing definite yet?

I have not worked him in or even thought about him. As I have said my DC-fu is very weak. Mostly from what I have read from wikipedia. I may work him in in the future I just do not know. As I have said my time line is always a work in progress.

aylwin13
Apr 27th, '08, 06:28 PM
Just a few heroes that I know are not on the time line who do exist.

Hawkman & Hawkgirl (The ones from Thanagar)
Power Man
Spider Woman (Jessica Drew)
Morbius
Quicksilver
Scarlett Witch
Wonder Man
Ms. Marvel (Carol Danvers)

(no Log-Man noe Elongatedman)
Just wanted to say that Wildcard is probably going to have Ms. Marvel's STR, Flight and defenses from his mom, Rogue (the powers she acquired permanently.) Didn't want to double-up on shticks. :)

Corven_Ren
Apr 27th, '08, 06:41 PM
Just wanted to say that Wildcard is probably going to have Ms. Marvel's STR, Flight and defenses from his mom, Rogue (the powers she acquired permanently.) Didn't want to double-up on shticks. :)

No Prob aylwin do your thing.

Alamias
Apr 28th, '08, 12:27 PM
I'm interested in making a character for this. I notice that Peter Parker is mentioned on the time line, but no mention of any marriage to Mary Jane (or other person). Would it be acceptable to base a character of his potential offspring?

Corven_Ren
Apr 28th, '08, 12:36 PM
I'm interested in making a character for this. I notice that Peter Parker is mentioned on the time line, but no mention of any marriage to Mary Jane (or other person). Would it be acceptable to base a character of his potential offspring?


Yes Spidey is only 21 as of 2008. I have not worked his love life into the time line yet..so you hook him up with whomever you want...be it Mary Jane, Felicia Hardey, Gwen Stacey, or even a DC Heroine..it does not matter.

Alamias
Apr 28th, '08, 12:45 PM
Great! Thanks for the reply. I will start work on a character.

Corven_Ren
Apr 28th, '08, 03:17 PM
Ok just a few more bits of information...Onslaught never happened, therefore the Hulk stayed in his Professor form. Bruce Banner never married Betty Ross.

ArchLight
Apr 28th, '08, 04:30 PM
I was really thinking Majestic instead of supes. Keeps thinking.

Querysphinx
Apr 28th, '08, 07:00 PM
Here's a submission. Plastyque.

Corven_Ren
Apr 28th, '08, 07:20 PM
Here's a submission. Plastyque.

Nice Backstory Query..one misprint Reed & Sue were killed by Kill Ratio

Beast
Apr 28th, '08, 09:52 PM
what a bout a character based on the genetic information from Forge and Illyana Rasputin?

Corven_Ren
Apr 28th, '08, 09:56 PM
what a bout a character based on the genetic information from Forge and Illyana Rasputin?


Could be doable...have a good backstory as how the genetic material was obtained....Forge died in 1998 at the hands of Doomsday...I have yet to work Illyana in but she does exist.

Beast
Apr 28th, '08, 10:04 PM
the character would construct by Sinister or evil Beast(age of apocolypse)that got away
maybe raised by Indiana Jones,Lady Lora Croft or sombody that was good with anchient artifacts


Could be doable...have a good backstory as how the genetic material was obtained....Forge died in 1998 at the hands of Doomsday...I have yet to work Illyana in but she does exist.

Corven_Ren
Apr 28th, '08, 10:30 PM
the character would construct by Sinister or evil Beast(age of apocolypse)that got away
maybe raised by Indiana Jones,Lady Lora Croft or sombody that was good with anchient artifacts

Mr. Sinister does not exist nor does Dark Beast....However if you want you could say it was done by Dr. Destroyer, Prof. Muerte, or Mr. Psycho.

Beast
Apr 28th, '08, 10:32 PM
Dr Destroyer works


Mr. Sinister does not exist nor does Dark Beast....However if you want you could say it was done by Dr. Destroyer, Prof. Muerte, or Mr. Psycho.

Beast
Apr 28th, '08, 11:02 PM
I'm also thinking of a gravity based mutant that is horror themed

but this 1 would be a new face
father was a Lituainian/USSR submarine captain who defected to the USA with a modified Typhoon class boomer and might have had some radiation exposure

Beast
Apr 28th, '08, 11:47 PM
Here is the Gravity based mutant I mentioned

Wraith

Querysphinx
Apr 29th, '08, 04:55 AM
Nice Backstory Query..one misprint Reed & Sue were killed by Kill Ratio

Okay. Just mentally swap the words Dr. Destroyer and Kill Ratio.

Corven_Ren
Apr 29th, '08, 06:33 AM
Here is the Gravity based mutant I mentioned

Wraith



I would prefer a legacy character please...your Forge and Illyana idea sounds intriguing.

Corven_Ren
Apr 29th, '08, 06:36 AM
I don't know if anybody saw this part of the timeline but...I know someone could work with this.

1999-Learning she is pregnant Wonder Woman, returns to Themyscria to raise her child in private.

aylwin13
Apr 29th, '08, 07:33 AM
I don't know if anybody saw this part of the timeline but...I know someone could work with this.

1999-Learning she is pregnant Wonder Woman, returns to Themyscria to raise her child in private.I saw that when I first read the timeline, and did think about it; but I just had to do a "Gambit" character. :)

Corven_Ren
Apr 29th, '08, 07:34 AM
I saw that when I first read the timeline, and did think about it; but I just had to do a "Gambit" character. :)


I'm glad you are Gambit is one of my fave characters

aylwin13
Apr 29th, '08, 07:36 AM
I'm glad you are Gambit is one of my fave charactersI think there are two of us then. ;):D

Corven_Ren
Apr 29th, '08, 07:41 AM
I think there are two of us then. ;):D

One of my favourite Gambit moments is when they split into the Gold & Blue teams years ago. And both teams were training together, trying to get to Prof. X. He managed to get there and after being knocked on his but when kisssing a robot Jean Grey (thinking it was the real one) he managed to crack a joke.

aylwin13
Apr 29th, '08, 07:52 AM
Remy was so much better before they decided to make him a villain working for Sinister. Luckily, I stopped read comics shortly after they dumped him in Antarctica, so I didn't have to suffer through what came later.

I think I'll have to dig out my back issues and reread them, to refresh my memories of the character.

Corven_Ren
Apr 29th, '08, 07:57 AM
Remy was so much better before they decided to make him a villain working for Sinister. Luckily, I stopped read comics shortly after they dumped him in Antarctica, so I didn't have to suffer through what came later.

I think I'll have to dig out my back issues and reread them, to refresh my memories of the character.

I'm glad I stopped collecting when I did as well (which was shortly after X-Cutioners song). They have changed many of my favourites around to much since then.

Alamias
Apr 29th, '08, 02:02 PM
I think there are two of us then. ;):D

Three. I actually have Remy tattooed on my arm IRL.

aylwin13
Apr 29th, '08, 02:20 PM
Three. I actually have Remy tattooed on my arm IRL.Cool. :thumbup:

Do you have a pic you can post?

Alamias
Apr 29th, '08, 02:33 PM
Cool. :thumbup:

Do you have a pic you can post?

Let's see if this works...

http://pics.livejournal.com/alamias/pic/0007chbd

bubba smith
Apr 29th, '08, 02:35 PM
nope

Alamias
Apr 29th, '08, 02:36 PM
Works for me? :confused:

bubba smith
Apr 29th, '08, 02:36 PM
all i see are red x's

Alamias
Apr 29th, '08, 02:38 PM
Huh. I see the image. *shrug*

aylwin13
Apr 29th, '08, 02:39 PM
Let's see if this works...

http://pics.livejournal.com/alamias/pic/0007chbdNice. That's from one of the trading cards, if I'm not mistaken.

Alamias
Apr 29th, '08, 02:39 PM
Nice. That's from one of the trading cards, if I'm not mistaken.

Yup, that is where it came from.

Alamias
Apr 29th, '08, 02:42 PM
Back on the game topic...

Does anyone else here have problems with writing a background? I can create a character easy enough, and never really had problems with making a power or coming up with good ideas for characters, but for the life of me I get total writers block when I try to do a background.

It's like I turn into a 5 year old just learning to write.

Corven_Ren
Apr 29th, '08, 02:44 PM
Nice....:D I want to get some new ink for my birthday.

Alamias
Apr 29th, '08, 02:45 PM
Nice....:D I want to get some new ink for my birthday.

Thanks! :) Got that about 10 years ago.

Corven_Ren
Apr 29th, '08, 02:47 PM
Back on the game topic...

Does anyone else here have problems with writing a background? I can create a character easy enough, and never really had problems with making a power or coming up with good ideas for characters, but for the life of me I get total writers block when I try to do a background.

It's like I turn into a 5 year old just learning to write.


Well Querysphinx is the only one who has turned in an officail submission. It is here...http://www.herogames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1594653&postcount=40

mayhap that can inspire the muse.

Alamias
Apr 29th, '08, 02:47 PM
http://members.cox.net/collectortrading/images/x-men_wall_paper_gambit.jpg

This is what the art came from.

Alamias
Apr 29th, '08, 02:48 PM
Well Querysphinx is the only one who has turned in an officail submission. It is here...http://www.herogames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1594653&postcount=40

mayhap that can inspire the muse.


First person....that might be easier than doing third person. Maybe I will give that a shot.

aylwin13
Apr 29th, '08, 02:58 PM
Back on the game topic...

Does anyone else here have problems with writing a background? I can create a character easy enough, and never really had problems with making a power or coming up with good ideas for characters, but for the life of me I get total writers block when I try to do a background.

It's like I turn into a 5 year old just learning to write.I'm having a bit of trouble getting a feel for who the character is. How much "Gambit-ness" or "Rogue-ness" should he have. Or really none. I'm just not sure.

Also, trying to fit him into someone else's world (or mind, as it were). My last new character's b/g basically created a lot of the story and situations that our group has been in. That makes it much easier.

Oh well, back to the storyboard.

Alamias
Apr 29th, '08, 03:08 PM
I'm starting to wonder if my idea is going to fly. If Spidey is 21 in 2008, He is either going to find love and reproduce real quick, or if I give him 4 years I will be running around as a 16 year old.

I don't know if a 16yr old is going to fly very well in a Justice League type setting. Call for the GM, since I don't want to progress further without input.

Alamias
Apr 29th, '08, 03:09 PM
Also, trying to fit him into someone else's world (or mind, as it were). My last new character's b/g basically created a lot of the story and situations that our group has been in. That makes it much easier.

Yeah. I'm having the same problem.

Alamias
Apr 29th, '08, 03:13 PM
I don't know if anybody saw this part of the timeline but...I know someone could work with this.

1999-Learning she is pregnant Wonder Woman, returns to Themyscria to raise her child in private.

You know...maybe I can work with this instead of my other idea. Is there a rule that amazonian women can only have daughters? ;)

Alamias
Apr 29th, '08, 03:17 PM
I'm also seeming to miss in the timeline who WW might have gotten pregnant by. Is that an unknown?

Checkmate
Apr 29th, '08, 03:27 PM
You know...maybe I can work with this instead of my other idea. Is there a rule that amazonian women can only have daughters? ;)
Aww don't even think about it, I'm almost done with mine :D

Alamias
Apr 29th, '08, 03:40 PM
Aww don't even think about it, I'm almost done with mine :D

PFFFFT! :p

Ah well.

Corven_Ren
Apr 29th, '08, 03:58 PM
You know...maybe I can work with this instead of my other idea. Is there a rule that amazonian women can only have daughters? ;)


No no rule that says that.

Corven_Ren
Apr 29th, '08, 04:33 PM
I'm also seeming to miss in the timeline who WW might have gotten pregnant by. Is that an unknown?

Yes...I intentionally did that, though rumors around the Superhero tabloids is that is a certain patriotic American

Querysphinx
Apr 29th, '08, 06:13 PM
I just bought Hero Designer, so this is my first attempt. It's Plastyque

Corven_Ren
Apr 29th, '08, 06:33 PM
Nice Build Query...add in the Package and you still have 8 points to play with.

Corven_Ren
Apr 29th, '08, 06:45 PM
One more note about the rules. I use the language familiarity chart & lieracy is free for all languages. So therefore if you are building the character with Herodesigner please make sure to edit the campaign rules to address that. Therefore Query each of your languages will only cost one point so after the 30 point JS packages the point total for Valeria is 589 points.

Corven_Ren
Apr 29th, '08, 06:53 PM
Here is a Hero Designer prefab for the Justice Squadron Package.

Alamias
Apr 29th, '08, 07:02 PM
I'm starting to wonder if my idea is going to fly. If Spidey is 21 in 2008, He is either going to find love and reproduce real quick, or if I give him 4 years I will be running around as a 16 year old.

I don't know if a 16yr old is going to fly very well in a Justice League type setting. Call for the GM, since I don't want to progress further without input.

I still need to get an answer for this before I continue to make my character. Is that going to be too young, or should I come up with another idea?

Also, You don't reference most of the X-Men specifically. Should we assume that if a character is not named specifically they exist, or should we check on a case by case basis?

For example, Angel nor Iceman have been referenced in the first team up for the x-men, or wolverine or colossus from the second team up. (Just trying to cover my bases in case I need to go back to the driving board.)

Corven_Ren
Apr 29th, '08, 07:11 PM
1985- The battle of Detroit takes place. Green Arrow, The Flash, Iron Man, Iceman and Angel are among the heroes killed by Dr. Destroyer.


1992- Oswald Cobblepot dies. After Captain America learns that the serum in his blood is killing him, the gorvenment seeks voulanteers among the superhuman comunity for a blood transfusion doner. The X-Man Wolverine voulenteers.

As far as the other members of the X-Men who were on the second team..Yes Colossus, Sunfire & Thunderbird were there and Thunderbird did not die. Even though I did not mention her Rogue also joined the X-Men.

As far as Spidey's heir goes...if it is written carefully I would allow them to be 16 or 17.

Alamias
Apr 29th, '08, 07:16 PM
Opps, guessed I missed them on my reads. Sorry.:(

Corven_Ren
Apr 29th, '08, 07:17 PM
Opps, guessed I missed them on my reads. Sorry.:(


No problem...it's alot of info to try and figure out.

Querysphinx
Apr 29th, '08, 07:34 PM
Nice Build Query...add in the Package and you still have 8 points to play with.

Now all I have to do is come up with 19 more points in disads.

Corven_Ren
Apr 29th, '08, 07:37 PM
Now all I have to do is come up with 19 more points in disads.

Did you see my post above about the Language familiarity thing?

Querysphinx
Apr 29th, '08, 07:48 PM
Did you see my post above about the Language familiarity thing?
Yeah, I fixed it. No point in reposting the character until I re-balance the Disads, though.

Other than that, all the stretchy weirdness makes sense to you?

Corven_Ren
Apr 29th, '08, 07:49 PM
Yeah, I fixed it. No point in reposting the character until I re-balance the Disads, though.

Other than that, all the stretchy weirdness makes sense to you?

Yeah..I've personally have never built a pure stretcher. I have a fiew characters who have it for certain things. (To simualte a webbing grab line for example.)

Checkmate
Apr 29th, '08, 07:54 PM
PFFFFT! :p

Ah well.
Okay finished her, and hate her, so Wonder Woman's kid is all yours.

Alamias
Apr 29th, '08, 07:57 PM
Okay finished her, and hate her, so Wonder Woman's kid is all yours.

Lol...

Alamias
Apr 29th, '08, 08:02 PM
Also there is no mythtlogical pantheons.

How does this work in relation to Wonder Woman mythos? Or are the Greek gods not considered "mythological" in terms of this world?

Corven_Ren
Apr 29th, '08, 08:07 PM
Also there is no mythtlogical pantheons.

How does this work in relation to Wonder Woman mythos? Or are the Greek gods not considered "mythological" in terms of this world?

Her home island is not soley inhabited by women in my Universe they are just the dominant sex. The women possess supehuman abilities while the men are just normals whit long life spans. I did this because I wanted to include the Amazons. There is still all the mythologies that there are in our world, they just do not actually exist the way they do in the DC & Marvel universes.

JimMills
Apr 30th, '08, 06:28 AM
Hi...

Looks interesting.


I would prefer children (or grandchildren in the case of some heroes) but if you want to be an heir... that would be fine with a really good back story.Do characters have to be kids, grandkids or heirs of characters mentioned in timeline? Or are others available? I'm thinking of maybe:

Martian Manhunter.
SuperSkrull or some kind of equivalent.
A Kree or Skrull hiding out on Earth for some reason?
Are Kryptonians or half-Kryptonians allowed other than Superboy and Supergirl? Are they all susceptible to Kryptonite? Kell El (in Legion of Super Heroes) was immune to Kryptonite damage.

Are VPPs allowed?

Thanks!

Corven_Ren
Apr 30th, '08, 07:03 AM
Hi...

Looks interesting.

Do characters have to be kids, grandkids or heirs of characters mentioned in timeline? Or are others available? I'm thinking of maybe:

Martian Manhunter.
SuperSkrull or some kind of equivalent.
A Kree or Skrull hiding out on Earth for some reason?
Are Kryptonians or half-Kryptonians allowed other than Superboy and Supergirl? Are they all susceptible to Kryptonite? Kell El (in Legion of Super Heroes) was immune to Kryptonite damage.

Are VPPs allowed?

Thanks!

As I said I would prefer them to be related to heroes of the past, whether a decendant or an heir. I never really cared for Martian Manhunter so that is why I had not worked him in. As far as Kryptonians go....I have never connected any other Kryptonians to Earth in the time line but I have been planning on working in Power Girl. Half-Kryptonians are susceptible to Kryptonite..however they take less damage from it, they are also not quite as strong as a full Kryptonian either. (Basically say if Superman had a 125 STR his children would be around 75-80). By the time the campaign actually starts Superboy & Girl are going to be in their early 40's and going by Superman and Superwoman. As far as VPP are concerned it is something I have never really understood completely, but I would allow it. But bottom line is build what you want and submit it, but if it's a decendant/heir of someone who is not on the timeline please ask if they exist first.

Checkmate
Apr 30th, '08, 08:29 AM
Are they all susceptible to Kryptonite? Kell El (in Legion of Super Heroes) was immune to Kryptonite damage.


Just for the record the reason Kell El wasn't affected by Kryptonite was that he wasn't really Kryptonian. They used Kryptonian DNA, but they genetically engineered him to NOT be affected by it. Superboy (one with the Tactile Telekinesis) wasn't affected by it either, but he was just a clone too.

As far as I know, all Kryptionans that were born from actual Krytonians (instead of clones) are affected by Kryptonite.

Beast
Apr 30th, '08, 08:38 AM
Ok here is Silk Detective
my Forge/ Illyanna constuct

Corven_Ren
Apr 30th, '08, 10:12 AM
Submission So Far

Querysphinx

Plastyque- Daughter of Reed & Susan Richards

Beast

Silk Detective- Clone by Dr. Destroyer using Forge & Illyana Rasputin's DNA

Beast
Apr 30th, '08, 11:15 AM
I'm gathering that these are character that you approve of right now and will give a final word on later after commenting on what needs tweeking?


Submission So Far

Querysphinx

Plastyque- Daughter of Reed & Susan Richards

Beast

Silk Detective- Clone by Dr. Destroyer using Forge & Illyana Rasputin's DNA

Corven_Ren
Apr 30th, '08, 11:18 AM
I'm gathering that these are character that you approve of right now and will give a final word on later after commenting on what needs tweeking?


Yes...but just because I approve does not neccesarilly mean they will make the cut. There are still over two weeks for submissions so no telling how many I will actually get.

RocketsRedGlare
Apr 30th, '08, 02:02 PM
I'm starting to wonder if my idea is going to fly. If Spidey is 21 in 2008, He is either going to find love and reproduce real quick, or if I give him 4 years I will be running around as a 16 year old.

I don't know if a 16yr old is going to fly very well in a Justice League type setting. Call for the GM, since I don't want to progress further without input.

Alamias, are you still working on a version of Spidey's kid? I had been working on one too, but if you want to call "dibs" since I didn't mention it in a post, he is all yours.

I have an idea about how you can rationalize his membership at a young age if you need it as well (with GM approval of course!).

aylwin13
Apr 30th, '08, 02:53 PM
Corven_Ren, I need some fleshing out of the time-line for a couple of characters. Right now, I have this:


1999 - Gambit joins the X-Men and meets Rogue.

2000 to 2004 - Gambit and Rogue adventure, date, eventually fall in love. Since Gambit’s body is a living generator of bio-kinetic energies. This creates static interference around him at all times, and at the peak of his powers, this grew to become a constant ambient bio-kinetic aura around his body which neutralized all other mutant powers which involved direct physical contact upon his person, allowing him to actually touch Rogue physically (this taken from the Wikipedia entry). As a result of this, they decided to be married. The wedding was held on Nov. 30th.

2005 - Wildcard is born on Sep. 15th.

2006 to 2027 - ??

2028 - Wildcard is 23, attending college, and joining the Justice Squadron


What was going on with Gambit and Rogue from 2006 to 2027? It could definitely have a psychological effect on Wildcard.

Corven_Ren
Apr 30th, '08, 03:36 PM
Corven_Ren, I need some fleshing out of the time-line for a couple of characters. Right now, I have this:
What was going on with Gambit and Rogue from 2006 to 2027? It could definitely have a psychological effect on Wildcard.


That's completely up to you, however you want to write it and how much tragedy you want in Wildcard's life. That's why I decided to leave the 20 year span open. All I will say is that Beast won the 2008 presidential election and served two full terms.

Alamias
Apr 30th, '08, 05:08 PM
Alamias, are you still working on a version of Spidey's kid? I had been working on one too, but if you want to call "dibs" since I didn't mention it in a post, he is all yours.

I have an idea about how you can rationalize his membership at a young age if you need it as well (with GM approval of course!).

No, he is all yours :)

Alamias
Apr 30th, '08, 05:12 PM
Ok, here is a rough draft of my character, Moon Knight (jr.)

So far, I don't have the background, but the rest is up for constructive criticism.

Corven_Ren
Apr 30th, '08, 05:32 PM
Okay...after much debate in my head I have decided to throw in the towell on the no mythilogical pantheon thing. Asguardians, Olympians and Egyptian mythos are there now. They are not true 'gods' however they are extra-dimensional beings who were worshiped as gods and refer to themselves as such. So Thor & Hercules are viable fathers now.

Checkmate
Apr 30th, '08, 05:49 PM
Ok, here is a rough draft of my character, Moon Knight (jr.)

So far, I don't have the background, but the rest is up for constructive criticism.
Are you serious? Get out of my freakin' head. *crumples up another character sheet*

Alamias
Apr 30th, '08, 06:06 PM
Are you serious? Get out of my freakin' head. *crumples up another character sheet*

Lol... Sorry. :doi:

Querysphinx
Apr 30th, '08, 06:11 PM
OKay. Here's Plastyque v2.0

Alamias
Apr 30th, '08, 06:27 PM
Ok, here is a rough draft of my character, Moon Knight (jr.)

So far, I don't have the background, but the rest is up for constructive criticism.

Here is a background. Might need more fleshing out.

Corven_Ren
Apr 30th, '08, 07:08 PM
Submission So Far

Querysphinx

Plastyque- Daughter of Reed & Susan Richards

Beast

Silk Detective- Clone Created by Dr. Destroyer using Forge & Illyana Rasputin's DNA

Alamias

Moon Knight II- Son of Marc Spector the original Moon Knight & Marlene Alraune

Checkmate
Apr 30th, '08, 08:50 PM
Okay, I have a concept I'm currently working on that actually combines 3 ideas all into one: Daughter of Wonder Woman and Thor. Visiting her father in Asgard, a battle breaks out, she impresses the Valkyrie and they let her carry on in honor Brunhilde who died in the Ragnarök prophecy.

She's going to carry a sword (see my other thread about AVLD) a spear that turns into Lightning bolt when thrown, and of course the bracers from her mother.

How's that work?

Alamias
Apr 30th, '08, 08:55 PM
Okay, I have a concept I'm currently working on that actually combines 3 ideas all into one: Daughter of Wonder Woman and Thor. Visiting her father in Asgard, a battle breaks out, she impresses the Valkyrie and they let her carry on in honor Brunhilde who died in the Ragnarök prophecy.

She's going to carry a sword (see my other thread about AVLD) a spear that turns into Lightning bolt when thrown, and of course the bracers from her mother.

How's that work?

I can say with all honesty I don't have a character that I am making or thinking of making with that concept ;)

Checkmate
Apr 30th, '08, 09:12 PM
Yeah, I figured. I used some save XP to buy Mental Defense :D

Beast
Apr 30th, '08, 11:34 PM
me neither


I can say with all honesty I don't have a character that I am making or thinking of making with that concept ;)

Checkmate
Apr 30th, '08, 11:53 PM
And here is Valkyrie. I'm not married to that picture of her, so if anyone wants to play with it and come up with something better I wouldn't mind :D

Dr Archeville
May 1st, '08, 08:17 AM
Deadline's still May 17th, yes?

Since there's no Apocalypse, I take it there was no "Age of Apocalypse" story, and so no Nate Grey/X-Man. Correct? (If so, my idea for Dead Head -- the son of X-Man and Threnody, who's in constant telepathic contact with the dead and has several other pseudo-necromantic mutant abilities -- would be out.)

Doctor Doom's listed as having one son (around 8 years old at the time the campaign starts), but could he have other kids? Recent comics have shown he's been going back in time and visiting Morgan le Fay (though maybe one time he really visited DC's Morgaine le Fey... unless, in this combined universe, they're both the same person).

How about a cyberkinetic, the son of Forge and Teknique (the cyberpath from Millennium City)?

Or a ferrokinetic/magnetokinetic, the son of Havok and Polaris?

Was Namor ever attracted to Sue in this timeline? If so, could/would he have taken a genetic sample from her and had his scientists make a 'son' for him, having his strength/durability and her force fields?

Corven_Ren
May 1st, '08, 08:31 AM
Deadline's still May 17th, yes?

Since there's no Apocalypse, I take it there was no "Age of Apocalypse" story, and so no Nate Grey/X-Man. Correct? (If so, my idea for Dead Head -- the son of X-Man and Threnody, who's in constant telepathic contact with the dead and has several other pseudo-necromantic mutant abilities -- would be out.)

Doctor Doom's listed as having one son (around 8 years old at the time the campaign starts), but could he have other kids? Recent comics have shown he's been going back in time and visiting Morgan le Fay (though maybe one time he really visited DC's Morgaine le Fey... unless, in this combined universe, they're both the same person).

How about a cyberkinetic, the son of Forge and Teknique (the cyberpath from Millennium City)?

Or a ferrokinetic/magnetokinetic, the son of Havok and Polaris?

To Answer your questions:
First the campaign actually starts in 2028 and yes the deadline is may 17th

Right no Age of Apocolypse and no X-Man but there is a Nathan & Rachell Summers (Twins born in to Scott & Jean in 1997) Both would be 31

Doom's son would be 28 but he could have other children.

Havok & Polaris Married in 1989...I have no kids listed for them but you could say they waited 10 years before having a kid..one born in 1999 would be just shy of 30.

As far as the Forge combination I am not really using any heroes from the Champs universe just some of the villains. (I dont actually own any Champions books but I have the CKC pack for hero designer.)

Corven_Ren
May 1st, '08, 08:34 AM
Was Namor ever attracted to Sue in this timeline? If so, could/would he have taken a genetic sample from her and had his scientists make a 'son' for him, having his strength/durability and her force fields?

No Namor was never a foe of the FF either. I have not gotten to more details on him yet. So if you want to do something else with him that is fine.

Corven_Ren
May 1st, '08, 08:36 AM
Submission So Far

Querysphinx

Plastyque- Daughter of Reed & Susan Richards

Beast

Silk Detective- Clone Created by Dr. Destroyer using Forge & Illyana Rasputin's DNA

Alamias

Moon Knight II- Son of Marc Spector the original Moon Knight & Marlene Alraune

Checkmate

Valkyrie- Daughter of Thor Odinson and Wonder Woman

Dr Archeville
May 2nd, '08, 07:23 AM
Here's what I've got so far for Scion, the son of Namor & Susan Storm. It's very rough, and still needs a good bit of work, but suggestions are encouraged and welcome.

Corven_Ren
May 2nd, '08, 07:41 AM
Here's what I've got so far for Scion, the son of Namor & Susan Storm. It's very rough, and still needs a good bit of work, but suggestions are encouraged and welcome.


Well for one I would need a more detailed background...and a good reason Namor would steal Sue's DNA...if that's the route your going. As I mentioned above...Namor did not have the facination with Sue in my universe that he didi in the comics.

Dr Archeville
May 2nd, '08, 09:10 AM
Well for one I would need a more detailed background...
That's why I said "very rough". ;)


and a good reason Namor would steal Sue's DNA...if that's the route your going. As I mentioned above...Namor did not have the facination with Sue in my universe that he did in the comics.
He wanted an heir, but wanted to make sure his son was powerful and so sought out powerful female metahumans/mutants? Would that work?

OR, Namor was wanting an heir, and sought out an Atlantean mate, but they still needed some help since his hybrid genome was making the pairing somewhat difficult (the fact his parents had no problems was a one-in-a-billion fluke). One of Namor's enemies -- Attuma, Llyra, Warlord Krang, someone -- had scientists loyal to them infiltrate the project and replace Namor's mate's genetic material with that of a surface worlder. Why? So the son would have even less Atlantean blood, and so less claim to the throne and be generally physically weaker (and easy to kill, which would affect Namor). But, unknown to the conspirators, the human DNA was that of the superpowered Sue Storm, due to [some as-yet determined plot contrivance].

Corven_Ren
May 2nd, '08, 10:12 AM
That's why I said "very rough". ;)


He wanted an heir, but wanted to make sure his son was powerful and so sought out powerful female metahumans/mutants? Would that work?

OR, Namor was wanting an heir, and sought out an Atlantean mate, but they still needed some help since his hybrid genome was making the pairing somewhat difficult (the fact his parents had no problems was a one-in-a-billion fluke). One of Namor's enemies -- Attuma, Llyra, Warlord Krang, someone -- had scientists loyal to them infiltrate the project and replace Namor's mate's genetic material with that of a surface worlder. Why? So the son would have even less Atlantean blood, and so less claim to the throne and be generally physically weaker (and easy to kill, which would affect Namor). But, unknown to the conspirators, the human DNA was that of the superpowered Sue Storm, due to [some as-yet determined plot contrivance].

That would work :D

Dr Archeville
May 2nd, '08, 10:36 AM
Which "that"? The first or second? :confused:

(It's been a long & stressful week for me.)

Corven_Ren
May 2nd, '08, 10:57 AM
Which "that"? The first or second? :confused:

(It's been a long & stressful week for me.)

This one

, Namor was wanting an heir, and sought out an Atlantean mate, but they still needed some help since his hybrid genome was making the pairing somewhat difficult (the fact his parents had no problems was a one-in-a-billion fluke). One of Namor's enemies -- Attuma, Llyra, Warlord Krang, someone -- had scientists loyal to them infiltrate the project and replace Namor's mate's genetic material with that of a surface worlder. Why? So the son would have even less Atlantean blood, and so less claim to the throne and be generally physically weaker (and easy to kill, which would affect Namor). But, unknown to the conspirators, the human DNA was that of the superpowered Sue Storm, due to [some as-yet determined plot contrivance].

Dr Archeville
May 2nd, '08, 12:00 PM
Ah, the one I took more than half a second to come up with. Groovy ;)

RocketsRedGlare
May 2nd, '08, 01:19 PM
Hey, here is my submission for Spider-Lad.

I am still trying to work on the Spider Tracers, I am having to total mental block on how to construct them. If anyone has ideas, send them my way!

teh bunneh
May 2nd, '08, 01:37 PM
Hey, here is my submission for Spider-Lad.

I am still trying to work on the Spider Tracers, I am having to total mental block on how to construct them. If anyone has ideas, send them my way!

Don't know if this is the best way, but my own Spider-Man homage uses this:

9 Spider Tracers: Detect Spider Tracers 13- (Radio Group), Increased Arc Of Perception (360 Degrees), Telescopic: +10, Tracking, 6 Recoverable Continuing Charges lasting 1 Day each (+0); OIF (-1/2), Restrainable (Bugs can be destroyed; -1/2) [6 rc]

RocketsRedGlare
May 2nd, '08, 02:01 PM
Don't know if this is the best way, but my own Spider-Man homage uses this:

9 Spider Tracers: Detect Spider Tracers 13- (Radio Group), Increased Arc Of Perception (360 Degrees), Telescopic: +10, Tracking, 6 Recoverable Continuing Charges lasting 1 Day each (+0); OIF (-1/2), Restrainable (Bugs can be destroyed; -1/2) [6 rc]

That looks better than what I had, thanks!

RocketsRedGlare
May 2nd, '08, 05:30 PM
Updated Character Sheet.

Alamias
May 2nd, '08, 05:33 PM
Hey, here is my submission for Spider-Lad.

I am still trying to work on the Spider Tracers, I am having to total mental block on how to construct them. If anyone has ideas, send them my way!

Heh..amusing that the concept I was going to go with is pretty much exactly the same. Name being Ben, mother being Felicia...

RocketsRedGlare
May 2nd, '08, 05:42 PM
Heh..amusing that the concept I was going to go with is pretty much exactly the same. Name being Ben, mother being Felicia...

Great minds think alike? Wait that might be an insult to you...:)

Corven_Ren
May 2nd, '08, 09:37 PM
Submissions So Far

Checkmate

Valkyrie- Daughter of Thor Odinson and Wonder Woman

Querysphinx

Plastyque- Daughter of Reed & Susan Richards

Beast

Silk Detective- Clone Created by Dr. Destroyer using Forge & Illyana Rasputin's DNA

Alamias

Moon Knight II- Son of Marc Spector the original Moon Knight & Marlene Alraune

RocketsRedGlare

Spider Lad- Son Of Spider Man & Black Cat.

Dr. Archeville

Scion- Geneticlly Engineered son of Namor & Susan Richard (Still Work In Progress I believe)

Propose Submissions (Not official yet but were discussedand am hoping for them)

Aylwin13

Wildcard- Son of Gambit & Rogue

McCoy

Tornado Fist- Daughter of Ironfist & Cyclone

Checkmate
May 2nd, '08, 10:33 PM
Yikes, does that mean I'm out of the running already?

Corven_Ren
May 2nd, '08, 10:40 PM
Yikes, does that mean I'm out of the running already?

Oops my bad Checkmate I will fix it

Checkmate
May 2nd, '08, 11:33 PM
Oops my bad Checkmate I will fix it
Phew had me worried :)

I've updated the character sheet, realized I left some Disads out of the background and forgot to make the Bracers and Spear OIF. So I added Missile Reflection with the extra points.

casualplayer
May 3rd, '08, 03:11 PM
Is there some idea of technology level? Do we finally have flying cars? Brain-implant internet access? Do cops have Iron Man-level armor for their SWAT teams?

Querysphinx
May 3rd, '08, 06:15 PM
I think having Plastyque meet Scion could be very very interesting...

Just saying.

Corven_Ren
May 3rd, '08, 07:47 PM
Is there some idea of technology level? Do we finally have flying cars? Brain-implant internet access? Do cops have Iron Man-level armor for their SWAT teams?

I'm still funoodling that in my head cp.

Corven_Ren
May 3rd, '08, 08:00 PM
I think having Plastyque meet Scion could be very very interesting...

Just saying.

I do to..would be a very interesting plot device.....:eg:

Corven_Ren
May 3rd, '08, 09:52 PM
Is there some idea of technology level? Do we finally have flying cars? Brain-implant internet access? Do cops have Iron Man-level armor for their SWAT teams?

Ok

1) The cars do not fly but there are no pure gasoline engines anymore. These were outlawed in 2020. Most cars or hybrids though there are some pure electric.

2) No brain implants..However there are wrist computers that are as powerful as our modernday desktops.

3)Swat teams do have assault armor for handeling supervillains.

Allan
May 4th, '08, 07:45 AM
Guess I’m behind the curve, just starting work on a character now.

I have two ideas.

Sigrid Maddox, aka Sapphire, the daughter of Jamie Maddox, the multiple man, and Aeryka Scott, the Green Lantern. She inherited both her parent’s powers, which interact oddly. As Sapphire duplicates, her Green Lantern abilities (which are actually shades of Blue) are defused. So, the more Sapphires there are, the weak each ones powers become.

Erika Jeffries, aka Hellfire, the daughter of Madison Jefferies, who inherited her father’s ability to with machines, and has found the Ghost Rider motorbike. Unaware what it was, she rebuilt it into a robot body modelled on her father's Box robot. To her surprise, her 'Box' had a fierce appearance, including a flame motif and flame throwers.
When she merges with it, she becomes Hellfire.

Dr Archeville
May 4th, '08, 09:39 AM
Here's my latest version of Scion, though he's still a little incomplete. I've got his background & personality down, and his disadvantages picked, but still have about 25 points left to spend. Suggestions are welcome!

casualplayer
May 4th, '08, 12:20 PM
Ok

1) The cars do not fly but there are no pure gasoline engines anymore. These were outlawed in 2020. Most cars or hybrids though there are some pure electric.

2) No brain implants..However there are wrist computers that are as powerful as our modernday desktops.

3)Swat teams do have assault armor for handeling supervillains.

Just trying to figure out if everyone has a household HERBIE by this point in time. Unleashing Richards/Stark/Pym/McCoy/Irons/Magnus/Caulder/Luthor can lead to a lot of mad science in a 20 year window, even more if they've been around for decades longer.

Querysphinx
May 4th, '08, 12:28 PM
Here's my latest version of Scion, though he's still a little incomplete. I've got his background & personality down, and his disadvantages picked, but still have about 25 points left to spend. Suggestions are welcome!


Way back in the good old days, Namor demonstrated the ability to absorb electricity, and discharge it like an electric eel. (Which is not actually how eels work, but never mind)

You might also consider oceanography and marine biology skills.

And somebody somewhere ought to know who the secret gene donor is. Perhaps Krang worked through a human intermediary like Dr.Doom or Lex Luthor or the Kingpin to get the genetic samples, and that intermediary gave Krang Sue Storm-Richards's genes for some sinister purpose of his own.

Dr Archeville
May 4th, '08, 01:26 PM
Way back in the good old days, Namor demonstrated the ability to absorb electricity, and discharge it like an electric eel. (Which is not actually how eels work, but never mind)
IIRC, he could actually mimic the abilities of any sea-critter, though that ability was later lost. But it might not've been lost for this game world!


And somebody somewhere ought to know who the secret gene donor is. Perhaps Krang worked through a human intermediary like Dr.Doom or Lex Luthor or the Kingpin to get the genetic samples, and that intermediary gave Krang Sue Storm-Richards's genes for some sinister purpose of his own.
Hrrmmm..... *ponders*

Checkmate
May 4th, '08, 03:51 PM
Here's my latest version of Scion, though he's still a little incomplete. I've got his background & personality down, and his disadvantages picked, but still have about 25 points left to spend. Suggestions are welcome!
After looking at your character, these are the question I would ask if I were GM, I'm not so feel free to answer or not :D

Why is he so much uglier than either of his parents (8 COM)?

I see you have all of your "Force Armor" as one compound power. Personally I think that's really hard to read, so I would make it a List and you could Link everything to your Force Field.

I'm not really sure about the SFX of your Force Armor. How exactly does increase your STR and give you a 45 CON?

Why can you only stretch the Force Field around his hands and arms? Why isn't the rest of the force field stretchable?

Your "Force Armor costs 6 END per phase to maintain, you use 7 END per phase you use your STR. If you attack every phase, you'll be out of END before the end of 1 Turn.

You have 35 Defenses plus 25% Damage Reduction, that might be a bit high for defenses.

I would define your Sonar as only working underwater.

You have a Total CvK, but you go Berserk in combat, that's going to cause some problems with a 70 STR. Add that to wanting to be a capable leader, and it's just a recipe for disaster. I would never allow a Berserk in combat character.

Again these are just my thoughts, feel free to do with them what you will :D

Dr Archeville
May 4th, '08, 07:12 PM
After looking at your character, these are the question I would ask if I were GM, I'm not so feel free to answer or not :D

Why is he so much uglier than either of his parents (8 COM)?
Ack! I hadn't noticed that at all! (I started by taking the .hdc file from Force of the Crowns of Krim and started editing; I guess he is an ugly lil' sucker.)


I see you have all of your "Force Armor" as one compound power. Personally I think that's really hard to read, so I would make it a List and you could Link everything to your Force Field.
Easy enough to do :) Oh, should the associated powers (the Characteristics, Life Support and Stretching) be Linked to the Force Field, since he only has them when his "psionic exoskeleton" is up?


I'm not really sure about the SFX of your Force Armor. How exactly does increase your STR and give you a 45 CON?
IIRC, the psionic exoskeleton of Unuscione (daughter of Unus the Untouchable), and of Armor, augments her strength (like a regular exoskeleton), so I don't see why his can't. My whole idea was "force field-based power armor."
The CON thing also comes from exoskeleton/power armor, specifically the "Powered Armor Resilience Augmentation" on pg.75 of Gadgets & Gear. It represents the force armor's ability to protect him from the stunning effects of impacts and the like.


Why can you only stretch the Force Field around his hands and arms? Why isn't the rest of the force field stretchable?
Because he picks up/manipulates things with his hands. He could potentially learn how to stretch the rest of his field, but for now has never really thought to do so.


Your "Force Armor costs 6 END per phase to maintain, you use 7 END per phase you use your STR. If you attack every phase, you'll be out of END before the end of 1 Turn.
Hence my need to suggestions & such, since this is only the fourth HERO System character I've ever made. Suggestions?


You have 35 Defenses plus 25% Damage Reduction, that might be a bit high for defenses.
Ah, that's another leftover from Force's char sheet. It probably can get chucked, yeah.
Or, limit it so it's only effective when underwater? I had been toying with ways to make him stronger/faster/tougher while underwater. (Increased REC when underwater?)


I would define your Sonar as only working underwater.
I'd thought about that, too, but then thought that maybe it's not just pulses of high-frequency sound he's using but also pulses of force energy, thus allowing it to work as well out of water as in. Or, that it's not just sonar but radar as well (which seem to built exactly the same).


You have a Total CvK, but you go Berserk in combat, that's going to cause some problems with a 70 STR. Add that to wanting to be a capable leader, and it's just a recipe for disaster. I would never allow a Berserk in combat character.
Hrm, true. I can remove that but leave the Enraged (when takes BODY), and that should be enough to show he's still got some of his dad's temper. (Though how he deals with such a disaster would be a grueling test of his leadership ability....)
Suggestions on another 30 points worth of Disadvantages?


Again these are just my thoughts, feel free to do with them what you will :D
I value any and all help I can get :)

Checkmate
May 4th, '08, 10:23 PM
As long as you're not taking my suggestions the wrong way, if you're getting frustrated, or feel yourself getting annoyed by them ignore me and move on, just offering my point of view, and I've been known to do things differently. Just want to make that clear so there are no hard feelings :D

Ack! I hadn't noticed that at all! (I started by taking the .hdc file from Force of the Crowns of Krim and started editing; I guess he is an ugly lil' sucker.)
Let me start by saying I'm a New Yorker, so I'm a cynical S.O.B (keep this in mind as I go through your character). When I see something, my first thoughts are "They're trying to get something for nothing". I look at COM since it has no real effect on game play it's an "easy" way to get points back with discernible loss in power.


Easy enough to do :) Oh, should the associated powers (the Characteristics, Life Support and Stretching) be Linked to the Force Field, since he only has them when his "psionic exoskeleton" is up?
If you only get them when the Force Field is up, then they should absolutely be linked. Remember that the value is reduced since the "Host" power is a constant power or in use most of the time.


IIRC, the psionic exoskeleton of Unuscione (daughter of Unus the Untouchable), and of Armor, augments her strength (like a regular exoskeleton), so I don't see why his can't. My whole idea was "force field-based power armor."
The CON thing also comes from exoskeleton/power armor, specifically the "Powered Armor Resilience Augmentation" on pg.75 of Gadgets & Gear. It represents the force armor's ability to protect him from the stunning effects of impacts and the like.
This sounds fine, although a 45 CON seems pretty huge. I haven't played a lot of games at the 600pt level, so it may not be as huge as it seems to me.

The only problem I'd have as the GM is that it doesn't really fit Susan's powers. I'd recommend you choose a different mom (Unuscione leaps immediately to mind) if you wanted that power set. What I'd really advise (and again this is just me, take it or leave it) is just give him a 70 STR and be done with it (or 60 STR +10 only underwater).


Because he picks up/manipulates things with his hands. He could potentially learn how to stretch the rest of his field, but for now has never really thought to do so.

Again the cynic in me screams this is a non-limiting limitation. I would get rid of the limitation as it doesn't really fit the conception.


Hence my need to suggestions & such, since this is only the fourth HERO System character I've ever made. Suggestions?

I would recommend a Naked Power Advantage 1/2 END on 70 STR for 17 Points. I would also make all the powers that are linked to the Force Field and the Force Field itself 0 END.


Ah, that's another leftover from Force's char sheet. It probably can get chucked, yeah.
Or, limit it so it's only effective when underwater? I had been toying with ways to make him stronger/faster/tougher while underwater. (Increased REC when underwater?)

That would be cool. If you look at the very first page in this thread, my first character was Tempest, he was son of Aqualad (who it seems doesn't exist in Corven's world). He has extra REC and Regeneration only under water.


I'd thought about that, too, but then thought that maybe it's not just pulses of high-frequency sound he's using but also pulses of force energy, thus allowing it to work as well out of water as in. Or, that it's not just sonar but radar as well (which seem to built exactly the same).

That seems cool. Similar things have been done with a Telekinesis SFX.


Hrm, true. I can remove that but leave the Enraged (when takes BODY), and that should be enough to show he's still got some of his dad's temper. (Though how he deals with such a disaster would be a grueling test of his leadership ability....)
Suggestions on another 30 points worth of Disadvantages?

Well you have another 20pts in psych disads you can use. Overconfident, Regal Obliges, Honor Bound/Warrior's Code, Arrogant, Expected to be treated like a prince, are all good candidates for that. Another Social Limitation Prince, Not limiting in some cultures (above water). Dark Secret: Stolen DNA from Susan Storm.

Another suggestion I'd make is take your Flying add the +1/4 Usable as Swimming and see if that makes things cheaper (I haven't done the math on it yet).



I value any and all help I can get :)
Hope I helped some.

Dr Archeville
May 5th, '08, 05:35 AM
As long as you're not taking my suggestions the wrong way, if you're getting frustrated, or feel yourself getting annoyed by them ignore me and move on, just offering my point of view, and I've been known to do things differently. Just want to make that clear so there are no hard feelings :D
Heh, none taken, as I said I'm still somewhat new to the system.


Let me start by saying I'm a New Yorker, so I'm a cynical S.O.B (keep this in mind as I go through your character). When I see something, my first thoughts are "They're trying to get something for nothing". I look at COM since it has no real effect on game play it's an "easy" way to get points back with discernible loss in power.
Heh, no, in this case it truly was me just being careless and overlooking something.


If you only get them when the Force Field is up, then they should absolutely be linked. Remember that the value is reduced since the "Host" power is a constant power or in use most of the time.
Groovy :)


This sounds fine, although a 45 CON seems pretty huge. I haven't played a lot of games at the 600pt level, so it may not be as huge as it seems to me.
Hrrmm... anyone else here think 45 CON (solely to resist being stunned from taking STUN damage) is too big?


The only problem I'd have as the GM is that it doesn't really fit Susan's powers. I'd recommend you choose a different mom (Unuscione leaps immediately to mind) if you wanted that power set. What I'd really advise (and again this is just me, take it or leave it) is just give him a 70 STR and be done with it (or 60 STR +10 only underwater).
It's not strictly Susan's powers, it's his own (like how Franklin's powers are nothing like Reed's or Sue's).


Again the cynic in me screams this is a non-limiting limitation. I would get rid of the limitation as it doesn't really fit the conception.
I think it does fit the concept. His "force armor/exoskeleton" just amps up his Brick-ness, and the stretching lets him batter foes from a distance as if using his own mighty fists. But, that's the only use for extending his force field he's been able to solidly conceive of, so that's all he does.


I would recommend a Naked Power Advantage 1/2 END on 70 STR for 17 Points. I would also make all the powers that are linked to the Force Field and the Force Field itself 0 END.
Gotcha.


That would be cool. If you look at the very first page in this thread, my first character was Tempest, he was son of Aqualad (who it seems doesn't exist in Corven's world). He has extra REC and Regeneration only under water.
Ah, Regen would fit quite nicely.


Well you have another 20pts in psych disads you can use. Overconfident, Regal Obliges, Honor Bound/Warrior's Code, Arrogant, Expected to be treated like a prince, are all good candidates for that. Another Social Limitation Prince, Not limiting in some cultures (above water). Dark Secret: Stolen DNA from Susan Storm.
Ha, Dark Secret is made for this guy!


Another suggestion I'd make is take your Flying add the +1/4 Usable as Swimming and see if that makes things cheaper (I haven't done the math on it yet).
Ah, I'd not thought of that at all. Thanks.


Hope I helped some.
You have!

Corven_Ren
May 5th, '08, 06:33 AM
Ok Dr. Archeville...I just got a chance to look at the new version of Scion. Checkmate has some good suggestions. Here are a few of my own.

Like Checkmate said the damage reduction needs to go. Also the 45 Con is a bit much...Namor was a brick but not that powerful of one. The regen to in the water would be great as well...it could recover both body, stun & end.

Disadvantages. Your dependance is a little extreme. Namor himself must spend one hour a day in the opposite environment he's mainly in. Ie if he's underwater most of the time...he must spend an hour in the air and vice versa. The berzerk has to go. Also I would take Vulnerability to heat based attacks (it will dehydrate you as well)...that is all for now.

Corven_Ren
May 5th, '08, 06:39 AM
Oddly enough...I had applied to the Avengers: The Next Generation game...with the daughter of Namor...you can find her here.

http://www.herogames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1588189&postcount=95


Take a look at her disadvantages maybe that will help you a little.:D

Dr Archeville
May 5th, '08, 07:04 AM
Examples am very good :) :) :)

If I do go the "enhanced REC, only in water," how much of a Limit should that be? -1/2? More? Less?

Oh, and, just for my clarification, where are the JS packages located? I pieced 'em together from Spider-Lad's & Valkyrie's sheet, but cannot seem to find where they're actually listed for players.

Corven_Ren
May 5th, '08, 07:27 AM
Here is the JS Package again...

Corven_Ren
May 5th, '08, 09:38 AM
Just wanted to repost this after recieving a pm

Submissions So Far

Checkmate

Valkyrie- Daughter of Thor Odinson and Wonder Woman

Querysphinx

Plastyque- Daughter of Reed & Susan Richards

Beast

Silk Detective- Clone Created by Dr. Destroyer using Forge & Illyana Rasputin's DNA

Alamias

Moon Knight II- Son of Marc Spector the original Moon Knight & Marlene Alraune

RocketsRedGlare

Spider Lad- Son Of Spider Man & Black Cat.

Dr. Archeville

Scion- Geneticlly Engineered son of Namor & Susan Richard (Still Work In Progress I believe)

Propose Submissions (Not official yet but were discussed

Aylwin13

Wildcard- Son of Gambit & Rogue

McCoy

Tornado Fist- Daughter of Ironfist & Cyclone

Amoeba Man

Blackburn-Son of Sunspot & Fire

Allan

Sapphire- Daughter of Madrox & Green Lantern (Aeryka Scott)

Hellfire- Daughter of Box who has turned the Ghost Rider motorcycle into a robot.

Dr Archeville
May 5th, '08, 07:14 PM
Here's Scion again, with all the changes that've been suggested. And he's still got about a few points left!

A few things I added that wasn't suggested: increased his PRE, and Hardened his PD & ED.

Corven_Ren
May 5th, '08, 08:25 PM
I like the background story Dr. Archville...one note sadly neither Reed nor Sue will be able to study the boy or even be aware of him they both died in 2006.

Dr Archeville
May 5th, '08, 08:37 PM
......... I knew that.

Time travel!

Checkmate
May 5th, '08, 09:05 PM
Again, not the GM so take it or leave it, but...

The character seems "hodge-podge-y" (if that's a word). It looks like you looked through a bunch of characters and said "That looks neat, I'll take one of those, and one one of these, a few of this", and things no longer make sense. I could go through and point on things I thought were weird, but I'm hoping you follow this suggestion:

Scrap the whole character and start from scratch. Think about your conception and what the character should be able to do. Forget about the HERO System totally and just think about what abilities the character should have. Once you know exactly what you want the character's powers and skills to be THEN start building him. If you aren't sure how to build something ask or look at other characters.

Here's what you have so far (that I see):


Inspiration - Sub-Mariner/Sue Richards parents
Personality - Hot head wants to be a good leader (check out your disads for more on this).
Powers -

Atlantean Powers (underwater survivability)- You have to decide (with the help of the GM) what abilities do all Atlanteans have. Now your character is only 1/4 Atlantean, does he have all the powers at exactly the same level?
Super Strength- This is pretty straight forward.
Flight - Again, no real complications here.
Power Armored Force Field - This is the part that's really lacking some focus. Before you look at a single power, decide what this does for the character. Does it only protect and increase STR, and stretch? Nail this down

Corven_Ren
May 5th, '08, 10:33 PM
After reviewing the character...well...I was planning on doing this later today after my kids were in school but seeing as I just killed a bat and cannot get back to sleep here it goes.

Atlantean Powers: LS Breath Water, High Pressure, Intense Cold, Longevity 200 Years, Nightvision (with the limitation..only works underwater this is how Atlanteans see in the depths of the ocean) No Sonar...I know his Wikipedia entry says he once possessed but no. The Damage Resistance, Mental Defense and Power defense and helaing are Atlantean as well.

Ankle Wings: I am cool with that...Why not just by flight with usable underwater and that way you dont have to pay the extra points to buy swimming.

STR/CON Boosts: I really don't see these coming from a force field...you want thes you get them the same way his daddy does..only while in contact with water.

Force Armor: I can logically see this providing the force field, stretching, maybe at most up to a 4d6 h-h attack and the section you have on protective armor and toughness augmentation.

Also I just dont understant the point of the PRE bonus.

Now that is that.

Dr Archeville
May 6th, '08, 03:44 AM
You killed a bat? It might have been an omen to get you to become Bat-Ren!

Why no Sonar? Especially as I gave a "pseudoscience" explanation for how his could work via his force field? And I think the nightvision of Namor & other Atlanteans (and DC's Atlanteans, and the Atlanteans of the Champions universe) work equally well both above and under water.

Why not Flight, Useable As Swimming? Because if something happens to his Flight, he should still be able to/I would still want him able to Swim.

I don't want to extra STR & CON (completely) coming from being in water, I want them to be (mostly) from his psionic exoskeleton. There's two chars in Marvel who have this (Unuscione and Armor, well they both get the STR augmentation), and Unuscione is the daughter of a guy who just had a big force field (Unus the Untouchable). The extra CON thing is really only to protect from getting stunned (impact absorption), it's another protective thing.

PRE bonus is straight out of Ulimate Brick and Superpowers Database II. He's persuasive/charismatic, but not "naturally" so (yet), he's got to consciously will himself/focus himself to draw upon his PRE. But I could take it out and just give him more PRE.

Corven_Ren
May 6th, '08, 07:41 AM
You killed a bat? It might have been an omen to get you to become Bat-Ren!

Why no Sonar? Especially as I gave a "pseudoscience" explanation for how his could work via his force field? And I think the nightvision of Namor & other Atlanteans (and DC's Atlanteans, and the Atlanteans of the Champions universe) work equally well both above and under water.

Why not Flight, Useable As Swimming? Because if something happens to his Flight, he should still be able to/I would still want him able to Swim.

I don't want to extra STR & CON (completely) coming from being in water, I want them to be (mostly) from his psionic exoskeleton. There's two chars in Marvel who have this (Unuscione and Armor, well they both get the STR augmentation), and Unuscione is the daughter of a guy who just had a big force field (Unus the Untouchable). The extra CON thing is really only to protect from getting stunned (impact absorption), it's another protective thing.

PRE bonus is straight out of Ulimate Brick and Superpowers Database II. He's persuasive/charismatic, but not "naturally" so (yet), he's got to consciously will himself/focus himself to draw upon his PRE. But I could take it out and just give him more PRE.


Ok after rethinking (and looking up the two other Marvel characters you mentioned)...the build on the force armor is fine as it is. You make a good argument for the sonar and nightvision as well. I unfortunatly do not own any books other than 5Er so I was unaware of the PRE bonus in the Ultimate Brick.

Dr Archeville
May 6th, '08, 08:12 AM
Hopefully Mr. Long won't mind me reprinting a bit:


Intimidation
By virtue of their size and obvious brawn, bricks can be very intimidating. A menacing stare, a low growl, or the cracking of super-strong knuckles at just the right time can do wonders for frightening people.
Game Information: +20 PRE (20 Active Points); Extra Time (Full Phase; -½), Only To Make Fear/Intimidation-Style Presence Attacks (-1). Total cost: 8 points.


Awe
The character’s nigh-godlike bearing and general force of personality make it easy for him to overawe and impress others. Even when he doesn’t actively exert his Presence (i.e., make a Presence Attack), people near him tend to adopt attitudes of deference, respect, adoration, and even worshipfulness.
Game Information: +40 PRE (40 Active Points); Costs Endurance (to activate; -¼). Total cost: 32 points.


Terrifying Majesty
While the character is pretty impressive in most situations, when it comes time to intimidate or terrify someone, his true talents come to the fore. Like the God of the Old Testament, he possesses a majesty and grandeur of personality that is often terrifying in its aspect, and those on whom he turns his baleful glance tremble in fear.
Game Information: +40 PRE (40 Active Points); Costs Endurance (to activate; -¼), Only To Make Fear-/Intimidation-Based Presence Attacks And Skill Rolls (-1). Total cost: 18 points.


Another power I'd thought of (before you suggested regeneration) was some variant on the "Just Catching My Breath":

Just Catching My Breath
So strong is the brick’s metabolism that whenever he stops to rest or catch his breath, he “rests up” much faster than normal.
In game terms, this ability is extra REC that only works if the character stops in the middle of a battle (or other activity) and takes a Recovery. It does not apply to the Post-Segment 12 Recovery or the like — the character has to actually stop what he’s doing and concentrate on nothing but resting.
Game Information: +20 REC (40 Active Points); Only When Character Takes A Full Phase Recovery (-1). Total cost: 20 points.

Corven_Ren
May 6th, '08, 08:58 AM
Here you go Doc...I give you Scion (with Force Armor Activated)

Dr Archeville
May 6th, '08, 10:20 AM
Nice! Thanks!

Dr Archeville
May 6th, '08, 10:27 AM
Would it be alright to replace his only-in-water regeneration with an only-in-water version of the "Just Catching My Breath" power?

Corven_Ren
May 6th, '08, 10:33 AM
Would it be alright to replace his only-in-water regeneration with an only-in-water version of the "Just Catching My Breath" power?


Sure...however you want to work it.

Dr Archeville
May 6th, '08, 11:03 AM
Alright, I think he's done. (Famous last words...)
Noticed I'd picked Ultravision for him instead of Ultrasonic Hearing, fixed that.
Also upped his COM a bit. And added some SS: Marine Biology ;)
And edited out the "if Reed or Sue ever study him" line (since they really can't).

Unfortunately, it seems I'm unable to export the file to .doc format (I'm at work now, it must not like the Hero Designer), so I'm just going to attach the .hdc file.

Corven_Ren
May 6th, '08, 11:32 AM
Is cool the hdc fileworks....I had only been reading his doc form before but now I see that I got this hair the wrong color hair for him when I made the pic:idjit:

Nechevo
May 6th, '08, 12:11 PM
I was thinking of doing a daughter of the X-Men's Banshee (A sonics based character with singing based Mind Control, called Siren.) I don't recall seeing him on your timeline so does Banshee exist in your game? Roughly how old would he be (so I can figure out how old my character could be/has to be)? Do you have anything set up around Banshee that I should know about/would affect my background?

I'm not that familiar with the Marvel universe so i'm in the process of reading up on the character via Wikipedia.

Dr Archeville
May 6th, '08, 12:14 PM
I was thinking of doing a daughter of the X-Men's Banshee (A sonics based character with singing based Mind Control, called Siren.) I don't recall seeing him on your timeline so does Banshee exist in your game? Roughly how old would he be (so I can figure out how old my character could be/has to be)? Do you have anything set up around Banshee that I should know about/would affect my background?

I'm not that familiar with the Marvel universe so i'm in the process of reading up on the character via Wikipedia.
Are you aware that, in the Marvel Universe, Banshee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banshee_%28comics%29) has a daughter code-named Siryn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siryn)?

Nechevo
May 6th, '08, 12:18 PM
Are you aware that, in the Marvel Universe, Banshee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banshee_%28comics%29) has a daughter code-named Siryn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siryn)?

I wasn't when I came up with the idea, but now that I am reading his wiki entry...

I hate Marvel... :)

Dr Archeville
May 6th, '08, 12:52 PM
I wasn't when I came up with the idea, but now that I am reading his wiki entry...
I hate Marvel... :)
You could do the son of Siryn & Jamie Madrox (in current 616 continuity she's preggers with his child). A Duplicating Sonic Manipulator. Choir, or Chorus, or Echo.

Nechevo
May 6th, '08, 12:53 PM
And looking over the timeline again I see Banshee and Siryn make a few appearances in it...
Sigh, well maybe I could play the daughter of Siryn... Or perhaps I can come up with something else...

Victor Reed VonDoom... What's his story, is he a villain?

Nechevo
May 6th, '08, 01:04 PM
You could do the son of Siryn & Jamie Madrox (in current 616 continuity she's preggers with his child). A Duplicating Sonic Manipulator. Choir, or Chorus, or Echo.

Hmm. That idea did cross my mind when I was reading Siryn's wiki entry but someone else already mentioned an idea of a child of Madrox. So...

And if I was going to do a step-related to another PC I would go with my first idea which was the son of Hercules and Wonder Woman. But Valkyrie was posted first and is probably a better idea than what I had. Plus i'm playing a Brick in my live Champions game, kind of want to get away from a brick.

Dr Archeville
May 6th, '08, 01:43 PM
Plus i'm playing a Brick in my live Champions game, kind of want to get away from a brick.
Heh, this is my first ever Brick character, I always play cerebral types (gadgeteers or mages or psions) or metamorphs/shapeshifters.

Corven_Ren
May 6th, '08, 01:53 PM
I was thinking of doing a daughter of the X-Men's Banshee (A sonics based character with singing based Mind Control, called Siren.) I don't recall seeing him on your timeline so does Banshee exist in your game? Roughly how old would he be (so I can figure out how old my character could be/has to be)? Do you have anything set up around Banshee that I should know about/would affect my background?

I'm not that familiar with the Marvel universe so i'm in the process of reading up on the character via Wikipedia.

Banshee died while trying to defeat Doomsday in 1998...he was an X-Man and a founding member of the govt sponsored X-Factor. His daughter Syrin joined X-Factor after her father's death. Syrin would be around 60 at the start of the campaign.

Corven_Ren
May 6th, '08, 01:55 PM
You could do the son of Siryn & Jamie Madrox (in current 616 continuity she's preggers with his child). A Duplicating Sonic Manipulator. Choir, or Chorus, or Echo.

Actually Hermit made up a child like this for Milkmandan's X-Men: TNG Campaign (Which is not in the same universe as mine) two dupes only called him Stereo.

aylwin13
May 6th, '08, 01:57 PM
Banshee died while trying to defeat Doomsday in 1998...he was an X-Man and a founding member of the govt sponsored X-Factor. His daughter Syrin joined X-Factor after her father's death. Syrin would be around 60 at the start of the campaign.You could do Syrin's son/daughter. If Teresa had them when she was 30-35 they would be 25-30 at the start.

Corven_Ren
May 7th, '08, 07:09 PM
Bump

Submissions So Far

Checkmate

Valkyrie- Daughter of Thor Odinson and Wonder Woman

Querysphinx

Plastyque- Daughter of Reed & Susan Richards

Beast

Silk Detective- Clone Created by Dr. Destroyer using Forge & Illyana Rasputin's DNA

Alamias

Moon Knight II- Son of Marc Spector the original Moon Knight & Marlene Alraune

RocketsRedGlare

Spider Lad- Son Of Spider Man & Black Cat.

Dr. Archeville

Scion- Geneticlly Engineered son of Namor & Susan Richard

Proposed Submissions (Not official yet but were discussed

Aylwin13

Wildcard- Son of Gambit & Rogue

McCoy

Tornado Fist- Daughter of Ironfist & Cyclone

Amoeba Man

Blackburn-Son of Sunspot & Fire

Allan

Sapphire- Daughter of Madrox & Green Lantern (Aeryka Scott)

Hellfire- Daughter of Box who has turned the Ghost Rider motorcycle into a robot.

Allan
May 7th, '08, 07:36 PM
Here is a first draft of Hellfire, daughter of Madison Jeffries (Box) and Lilian Crawley, and distant relative of John Blaze (Ghost Rider)

Let me know what you think.
(I'm at 595 pts spent, and 155/605 disads, so I have some room to adjust her.)
note - tried to attach her as HTML, and then as RTF, but it isn't working.


Joining Alpha Flight as Box, Madison eventually developed a romantic relationship with Heather, and even proposed to her. However, when former Gamma Flight member Diamond Lil joined Alpha Flight, Madison and Hudson drifted apart. Madison rekindled his romance with Diamond Lil, having known her since the early days of Department H, and soon he and Lil left active duty to pursue their relationship.
Erika Jeffries is the daughter of Madison Jeffries (Box) and Lilian Crawley (Diamond Lil) who inherited the powers of both her parents.
Just hours after she was born, Erika’s body started generating a bio-aura of nigh-impenetrable energy that permeates her molecular structure to grant her skin durability akin to that of diamond. Though able to deflect most forms of physical or energy-based impacts, Erika still feels the force of such blows. Similarly, Erika’s bio-aura also affords her protection against temperature extremes. Her nails and hair are similarly permeated, even after being removed from her body. Like her mother's, Erika’s bio-aura limits her sense of touch.
Her parents tried to make their marriage work, but couldn’t. Eventually, Lilian eventually left him, and took their three year old daughter. She applied to the Montreal police, and received a permanent associate position with the bomb squad. When she earned their trust, aided by a written character reference from Heather Hudson, she was hired fulltime despite her criminal record.
Erika was mostly raised by her mother, aided by a series of robot toys and a robot nanny created by her father. Madison was a ‘weekend’ dad, who often cancelled visits due to needing to save some city or other. Despite his failure to put Erika first, she always loved her father. And, seemingly because she loved him, she was always fascinated by machines.
As the invulnerable single parent of an invulnerable child, Lilian had an easier time in some ways. Although she was often visited by social services, due to letting little Erika play with knives or riding her bike without a helmet. To conceal her diamond skin, Erika had to be wary of anything that would hurt a normal person. Being so alert to harm, and with a note to avoid all contact sports, she became known as ‘delicate’, or less charitably as ‘a girlie powder puff’.
At fourteen, Erika developed an ability to psionically rearrange metal, plastic and glass into any form imaginable. She can manipulate items on an atomic level and can create complex and highly thought out machines, weapons, vehicles, and other items. This was just one more bound between father and daughter.
Erika lived with her father, in Los Angeles, from the age of fifteen to eighteen, but returned to Montréal when she left school and wanted to join the police force.

Erika started her superhero career in an old Box robot, which she modified into Steel Warrior. During her work protecting Montreal, she had a fight with Atrocity (a man injected with blood from Emil Blonsky/the Abomination) the green clawed fiend threw a motorbike at her. Suddenly seeing she needed a weapon, Erika reshaped the bike’s metal into an axe. After defeating Atrocity, Erika kept the axe. A few days later, she used it to rebuild Steel Warrior, adding jet boots and flame-throwers, and a multi-weapon that easily changes into any hand weapon, or long steel tentacles. The new robot design is smaller, and more human, than her father’s Box robot. It has a fierce look, and is flame red across the head and shoulders, and forearms and hands.
Erika is still unaware that the motorbike was Ghost Rider’s demonically infused vehicle, or that she is related to the Kale family. These new ‘modifications’ are Erika exhibiting Ghost Rider powers, which she doesn’t yet know she can do WITHOUT her HellFire robot. If she is ever hurt, she will probably erupt into hellfire. This hasn’t happened yet.

Possible hunteds
- Atrocity, and kind of Kid Abomination, smaller than Abomination but with claws.
- A demon cultist, who wants to ‘awaken’ Erika to her demon heritage, making her into a powerful supervillian.
- Someone wanting to ‘recruit’ Madison Jeffries daughter, somehow coercing her to use her machinesmith abilities illegally, to make millions or conquer some small country or something.

Corven_Ren
May 7th, '08, 07:45 PM
Ok Allan first of all there is a 75 point active cap on powers except you may have one power that has 90 active points..... your VPP is 300 Active points Also you have 5 point to many disadvantages

Checkmate
May 7th, '08, 07:47 PM
Allan,
.rtf's are not accepted as attachments. Just change the extension to .doc.

Corven_Ren
May 7th, '08, 08:21 PM
Victor Reed VonDoom... What's his story, is he a villain?

His story is he is heir to the throne of Latveria and like his father is loved by it's people. At the start of the campagin he is 28 years old and is the official United Nations Representitive for his country. His father has taught him many things both in the nature of sorcery and technology. And no he is not a villain.

Allan
May 7th, '08, 11:49 PM
Ok Allan first of all there is a 75 point active cap on powers except you may have one power that has 90 active points..... your VPP is 300 Active points

Sorry.
I didn't know about the 75/90 pt cap.:(
Does it mean my VPP pool is limited to 90pts, or the whole thing (pool and control cost) is limited to 90pts, so it would be a 45pt pool with 45pt control cost?
Suggestions for what to buy with the other 210/255pts?:dyn
Maybe I'll make her seriously invulnerable, like her mother.

Also you have 5 point to many disadvantages
Yes.
As I said -
(I'm at 595 pts spent, and 155/605 disads, so I have some room to adjust her.)
605 disads is 5pts over.
I like to have too many disads in the first draft, so the GM can say 'drop X to 8-, and get rid of Y all together.'
Speaking of which, what would you suggest dropping by 5pts?

Dr Archeville
May 8th, '08, 07:12 AM
Some cyberkinetic/cyberpathic powers?
Electronics, Mechanics, and assorted Science skills (instinctual, rather than learned/trained)?

Corven_Ren
May 8th, '08, 07:25 AM
Ok Allan this is what I will allow for your VPP..it will allow you to create a power with 90 active points.

91 Machine Shaper: Variable Power Pool, 55 base + 36 control cost, No Skill Roll Required (+1) (109 Active Points); VPP Powers Can Be Changed Only In Given Circumstance (Requires machines to 'shape'; -1/2)

The Zero Phase Action does not seem logical it would take at least a phase for a machine to reshape itself into a new power.

Another thing...your Justice Squadron Communicator should not be OIHID...if the squadron needs to get a hold of you and you are nowhere near the robot....well you can understand. It's fine that she 'fuses' it into the robot when shes in it but when she phases out of the bot it should come with her.


Also on the subject of disadvantages: Being a mutant is not so much of a social limitation anymore, ever since Beast became the first mutant president. So it would be occasionally & minor at best.

Nechevo
May 9th, '08, 12:18 AM
His story is he is heir to the throne of Latveria and like his father is loved by it's people. At the start of the campagin he is 28 years old and is the official United Nations Representitive for his country. His father has taught him many things both in the nature of sorcery and technology. And no he is not a villain.

Can I use him for a character idea? I was thinking Victor Reed wants to further improve the family name by becoming a super hero and decides the best way to do that is to join the new Justice Squadron. I'm thinking a bit of an arrogant, high minded person who has a tendency to look down on others (him being of noble blood and all of that), expects a lot out of people (perfectionist, expects people to match his high expectations) and can be a bit condescending, patronizing and judgmental. But is a hero at heart. Also as far as I can tell you don't have too many scientists so far submitted so a gadgeteer/technological genius would be a great addition to the team. I'm not sure if he would be an experienced hero or just starting out (leaning towards the experienced).

I would probably go more with the technology side and only a little magic if any. Obviously a power armour character, possibly some robotics thrown in (perhaps a robot follower or two depends on how the points shake out). More ranged energy attacks (something that I think the team needs as the bulk of the submitted characters are melee types). Tons of science and invention related skills.

His hero name could be Victor. Or perhaps he'd just use Victor von Doom, in order to keep building on the family name being associated with heroism and distancing it from his father's criminal past.

I was also thinking of getting him into Stark Industries in some way. Perhaps he is hired on in a major position to make use of his expertise. Amanda Stark must be getting fairly up there in age... Merging Dr. Doom's costume with Iron Man's armour would make for a nice inspiration/starting point for his costume. Although it might be trying to cram too much into the character..

Thoughts?

Corven_Ren
May 9th, '08, 05:12 AM
Can I use him for a character idea? I was thinking Victor Reed wants to further improve the family name by becoming a super hero and decides the best way to do that is to join the new Justice Squadron. I'm thinking a bit of an arrogant, high minded person who has a tendency to look down on others (him being of noble blood and all of that), expects a lot out of people (perfectionist, expects people to match his high expectations) and can be a bit condescending, patronizing and judgmental. But is a hero at heart. Also as far as I can tell you don't have too many scientists so far submitted so a gadgeteer/technological genius would be a great addition to the team. I'm not sure if he would be an experienced hero or just starting out (leaning towards the experienced).

I would probably go more with the technology side and only a little magic if any. Obviously a power armour character, possibly some robotics thrown in (perhaps a robot follower or two depends on how the points shake out). More ranged energy attacks (something that I think the team needs as the bulk of the submitted characters are melee types). Tons of science and invention related skills.

His hero name could be Victor. Or perhaps he'd just use Victor von Doom, in order to keep building on the family name being associated with heroism and distancing it from his father's criminal past.

I was also thinking of getting him into Stark Industries in some way. Perhaps he is hired on in a major position to make use of his expertise. Amanda Stark must be getting fairly up there in age... Merging Dr. Doom's costume with Iron Man's armour would make for a nice inspiration/starting point for his costume. Although it might be trying to cram too much into the character..

Thoughts?

Sure go ahead and play with the idea and lets see what comes of it.

Allan
May 9th, '08, 07:18 AM
Revised Erika/Hellfire
600pts and 150pts of disads

Went with 75pt machine shaper, and 90pt weapons
Hobbies, and more technology skills

Corven_Ren
May 9th, '08, 07:53 AM
Submissions So Far

Checkmate

Valkyrie- Daughter of Thor Odinson and Wonder Woman

Querysphinx

Plastyque- Daughter of Reed & Susan Richards

Beast

Silk Detective- Clone Created by Dr. Destroyer using Forge & Illyana Rasputin's DNA

Alamias

Moon Knight II- Son of Marc Spector the original Moon Knight & Marlene Alraune

RocketsRedGlare

Spider Lad- Son Of Spider Man & Black Cat.

Dr. Archeville

Scion- Geneticlly Engineered son of Namor & Susan Richard

Allan

Hellfire- Duaghter of Madison Jeffries (Box) & Diamond Lil unknowingly turned the ghost rider motorcycle into a robot.

Proposed Submissions (Not official yet but were discussed

Aylwin13

Wildcard- Son of Gambit & Rogue

McCoy

Tornado Fist- Daughter of Ironfist & Cyclone

Nechevo

Victor- Son of Dr. Doom, heir to the throne of Latveria

Nechevo
May 9th, '08, 09:16 AM
Sure go ahead and play with the idea and lets see what comes of it.

Great. I'm a fairly busy today and tomorrow, so it might not be until Sunday before I can get my first draft for the submission in.

Corven_Ren
May 9th, '08, 09:43 AM
Great. I'm a fairly busy today and tomorrow, so it might not be until Sunday before I can get my first draft for the submission in.

No problem...whenever you can get it done.

Dr Archeville
May 9th, '08, 09:59 AM
The son of Namor and the son of Doctor Doom teaming up? Perfect!

Corven_Ren
May 9th, '08, 12:52 PM
Been messing around making Pics Heres what I came up with for the new Moon Knight (just because I make does not mean you are in btw) and here as well is the pic Query did for Plastyque

Corven_Ren
May 10th, '08, 12:37 PM
Ok all there is Officially one week left until submission deadline. Those who are think about submitting please do so. Thanks in advance.

Corven_Ren
May 10th, '08, 12:57 PM
Here's another pic I did...I figure that seeing he's a little darker and more serious than his father..here's Spider Lad

Dr Archeville
May 10th, '08, 02:07 PM
Spider-Lad, Spider-Lad
Does things better than his dad

Checkmate
May 11th, '08, 02:46 AM
Okay I just saw the movie Iron Man, and I HAD to do it. I was just writing it up for fun, but as I got into, I really started to like the character.

The AI I sort of liked, but would have no problem getting rid of and just making it an RP thing. What really gave me the idea about the AI was I had an old issue of Iron Man where he was facing a bunch of thugs and he's targeting system targeted and blasted them all, but what really hit home was afterwards he thought something to the effect of "I hate turning the suit over to the computer, I feel like a puppet in my own clothes". That meant to me that Tony wasn't controlling the suit, and I really liked that aspect of it. If you were to like this character more than Valkyrie, I think I would work on the AI a bit more, and make it more accurate than James, but James HATES to give up control, so would rarely use it. Again if you hate the AI idea, I can toss it out and just take some OIHID powers and skills to reflect the AI and make the rest RP.

I'm not sure if it's even possible, but the idea of the AI is not a cheap way to get two actions per phase. If James is controlling the suit, the AI isn't and vice versa (just to clear that up, in case it is rules legal). I picture the AI feeding James information, and working on controlling the nanobots to modify the suit when needed. I also like the RP possibilities the AI provides.

I'll just upload the doc's for now, I'll post the .hdc's if you think there might be a possibility to play him.

Corven_Ren
May 11th, '08, 06:57 AM
Okay I just saw the movie Iron Man, and I HAD to do it. I was just writing it up for fun, but as I got into, I really started to like the character.

The AI I sort of liked, but would have no problem getting rid of and just making it an RP thing. What really gave me the idea about the AI was I had an old issue of Iron Man where he was facing a bunch of thugs and he's targeting system targeted and blasted them all, but what really hit home was afterwards he thought something to the effect of "I hate turning the suit over to the computer, I feel like a puppet in my own clothes". That meant to me that Tony wasn't controlling the suit, and I really liked that aspect of it. If you were to like this character more than Valkyrie, I think I would work on the AI a bit more, and make it more accurate than James, but James HATES to give up control, so would rarely use it. Again if you hate the AI idea, I can toss it out and just take some OIHID powers and skills to reflect the AI and make the rest RP.

I'm not sure if it's even possible, but the idea of the AI is not a cheap way to get two actions per phase. If James is controlling the suit, the AI isn't and vice versa (just to clear that up, in case it is rules legal). I picture the AI feeding James information, and working on controlling the nanobots to modify the suit when needed. I also like the RP possibilities the AI provides.

I'll just upload the doc's for now, I'll post the .hdc's if you think there might be a possibility to play him.

My only problem with this Checkmate is that Rhodey would be a very old man when the campaign starts. figure if he was in 18 in 1969 (When he met Stark in 'Nam.) He would be in his 77 in 2028.

Checkmate
May 11th, '08, 09:28 AM
Right, which is why this is Rhodey's grandson :D

Corven_Ren
May 11th, '08, 10:15 AM
Right, which is why this is Rhodey's grandson :D

Oh ok...I looked quickly before I went to church...I will look it over more carfully later today

RocketsRedGlare
May 11th, '08, 06:09 PM
Here's another pic I did...I figure that seeing he's a little darker and more serious than his father..here's Spider Lad

Looks cool! Fairly similar to the one I did as well, with the same thought that he was darker than Peter.

Corven_Ren
May 11th, '08, 08:26 PM
Submissions Update

Checkmate

Valkyrie- Daughter of Thor Odinson and Wonder Woman
War Machine- updated armor piloted by Rhodey's grandson

Querysphinx

Plastyque- Daughter of Reed & Susan Richards

Beast

Silk Detective- Clone Created by Dr. Destroyer using Forge & Illyana Rasputin's DNA

Alamias

Moon Knight II- Son of Marc Spector the original Moon Knight & Marlene Alraune

RocketsRedGlare

Spider Lad- Son Of Spider Man & Black Cat.

Dr. Archeville

Scion- Geneticlly Engineered son of Namor & Susan Richard

Allan

Hellfire- Duaghter of Madison Jeffries (Box) & Diamond Lil unknowingly turned the ghost rider motorcycle into a robot.

Proposed Submissions (Not official yet but were discussed

Aylwin13

Wildcard- Son of Gambit & Rogue

McCoy

Tornado Fist- Daughter of Ironfist & Cyclone

Nechevo

Victor- Son of Dr. Doom, heir to the throne of Latveria

Nechevo
May 12th, '08, 12:21 AM
Took me a lot longer to get working on the character, and I had some issues with my system while doing his sheet. So I wasn't able to get his background done yet, and he's not balanced. But I thought I would post his sheet so that you can take a look at him and propose any needed changes before I spend too much time playing with the numbers to get him balanced. He's 20 points over but I suspect that I have over spent on some areas (like his Contacts and perhaps his languages) that might shave some points off. (For instance is his contact with Latverian Government really worth 27 points? Same deal with his UN Contact and his Fringe Benefits). Also it's not showing up in the doc file but his second reputation is "Hero to the people of Latveria". (side question does that +4 rep mean his Latverian Contact roll gets the +4 to it?)

Anyways let me know what you think.

I made some changes so I removed the files and reuploaded them. See my later posting for the files

Nechevo
May 12th, '08, 12:23 AM
Here's the pics for Victor. The first one is with the Hood (which I like since it really drives home the connection to his father) the second is without the hood which makes him look a bit more like a hero but lessens some of the Dr. Doom connection.

I'll start working on his background after I take a bit of a break. Hopefully I can get at least a rough background done before I fall asleep.

Nechevo
May 12th, '08, 03:22 AM
I found some mistakes in the character sheet so he's the latest version of that. Plus my first draft for Victor's background.

Corven_Ren
May 12th, '08, 06:50 AM
Could not help myself...Victor

bubba smith
May 12th, '08, 12:39 PM
mr von doom

Nechevo
May 12th, '08, 03:38 PM
If you are going to call me by title it is Prince Victor VonDoom or Dr. VonDoom if you must be less than accurate.

aylwin13
May 12th, '08, 05:54 PM
If you are going to call me by title it is Prince Victor VonDoom or Dr. VonDoom if you must be less than accurate.
So. I'm guessing that "Doomsie" is out of the question then? :D

Checkmate
May 12th, '08, 06:43 PM
So. I'm guessing that "Doomsie" is out of the question then? :DNot if your the Daughter of Thor and Wonder Woman and want to annoy someone :D

aylwin13
May 12th, '08, 07:07 PM
Not if your the Daughter of Thor and Wonder Woman and want to annoy someone :DI'm betting that Gambit and Rogue's son might say something similar himself. :cool:

Querysphinx
May 12th, '08, 07:25 PM
I'm betting that Gambit and Rogue's son might say something similar himself. :cool:

And Reed & Sue Richard's daughter would certainly have something pithy to say.

Corven_Ren
May 12th, '08, 08:55 PM
I'm betting that Gambit and Rogue's son might say something similar himself. :cool:

WHOM I am still waiting to see.

Nechevo
May 12th, '08, 08:59 PM
So how does Victor look? Any areas that I have the points wrong, or areas that I need to change before I start working on reducing his cost so he's balanced?

aylwin13
May 13th, '08, 07:12 AM
WHOM I am still waiting to see.

:(:o I'm sorry. I'm trying to get him presentable...


Hopefully something to send you tonight. Keep your fingers crossed.

Corven_Ren
May 13th, '08, 08:45 AM
So how does Victor look? Any areas that I have the points wrong, or areas that I need to change before I start working on reducing his cost so he's balanced?

Looks fine...go ahead and trim him down.

Corven_Ren
May 15th, '08, 05:46 AM
Ok guys 2 days officially left for submissions. please if your going to submit a character post it here by Saturday. I will then make my decision by Monday. Thank you that is all.


Submissions So Far

Checkmate

Valkyrie- Daughter of Thor Odinson and Wonder Woman
War Machine- Grandson of James 'Rhodey' Rhodes

Querysphinx

Plastyque- Daughter of Reed & Susan Richards

Beast

Silk Detective- Clone Created by Dr. Destroyer using Forge & Illyana Rasputin's DNA

Alamias

Moon Knight II- Son of Marc Spector the original Moon Knight & Marlene Alraune

RocketsRedGlare

Spider Lad- Son Of Spider Man & Black Cat.

Dr. Archeville

Scion- Geneticlly Engineered son of Namor & Susan Richard

Allan

Hellfire- Duaghter of Madison Jeffries (Box) & Diamond Lil unknowingly turned the ghost rider motorcycle into a robot.

Nechevo
Victor- Son of Dr. Doom, heir to the throne of Latveria

Proposed Submissions (Not official yet but were discussed

Aylwin13

Wildcard- Son of Gambit & Rogue

McCoy

Tornado Fist- Daughter of Ironfist & Cyclone

Checkmate
May 15th, '08, 03:01 PM
Was my War Machine forgotten on purpose? :D

Corven_Ren
May 15th, '08, 03:12 PM
Was my War Machine forgotten on purpose? :D


No just quoted the wrong post when I made my last one I will edit it now.

Allan
May 15th, '08, 04:08 PM
Hellfire- Daughter of Madison Jeffries (Box) & Diamond Lil unknowingly turned the ghost rider motorcycle into a robot.

I'm going to do a final polish on Hellfire.
Is there anything you suggest changing?:thumbdown
Anything that needs work?:celebrate

Allan

Querysphinx
May 16th, '08, 04:13 PM
A fun little colored pencil piece of Plastique vs the Rhino

http://www.herogames.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=41&pictureid=578

Log-Man
May 16th, '08, 06:34 PM
Poor Rhino.

Corven_Ren
May 17th, '08, 04:30 PM
Ok guys less than 5 hours to go. If you need to (aylwin13&McCoy) just send me what you have so far and I will make my decisions by and post the line up on Monday. Thanks and Happy Brithday to me.:D

Submissions So Far

Checkmate

Valkyrie- Daughter of Thor Odinson and Wonder Woman
War Machine- Grandson of James 'Rhodey' Rhodes

Querysphinx

Plastyque- Daughter of Reed & Susan Richards

Beast

Silk Detective- Clone Created by Dr. Destroyer using Forge & Illyana Rasputin's DNA

Alamias

Moon Knight II- Son of Marc Spector the original Moon Knight & Marlene Alraune

RocketsRedGlare

Spider Lad- Son Of Spider Man & Black Cat.

Dr. Archeville

Scion- Geneticlly Engineered son of Namor & Susan Richard

Allan

Hellfire- Duaghter of Madison Jeffries (Box) & Diamond Lil unknowingly turned the ghost rider motorcycle into a robot.

Nechevo
Victor- Son of Dr. Doom, heir to the throne of Latveria

Proposed Submissions (Not official yet but were discussed

Aylwin13

Wildcard- Son of Gambit & Rogue

McCoy

Tornado Fist- Daughter of Ironfist & Cyclone

Corven_Ren
May 17th, '08, 05:30 PM
I mean at least a rough draft of the origin.....we can deal with mechanics later.

McCoy
May 17th, '08, 05:55 PM
Sorry, I am not going to have time for this. Withdrawing my application.

Presenting Tornado Fist for possible use as an NPC.

Tornado Fist

Player: McCoy

Val Char Cost
23 STR 0
23 DEX 0
23 CON 0
23 BODY 0
23 INT 0
23 EGO 0
23 PRE 0
22 COM 0

8 PD 0
8 ED 0
7 SPD 37
10 REC 0
50 END 2
50 STUN 3

13" RUN 0
3" SWIM 1
4 1/2" LEAP 0
Characteristics Cost: 43

Cost Power
Nannites [Notes: Abigail was infected (she prefers "inoculated") with Thomas Morrow's nannites in utero. They have made her human optimin. If somhow her nannites could be disabled, powers on this list would fade and the characteristics would be lowered. No limitation is taken on this.]
18 1) +13 STR, Reduced Endurance (1/2 END; +1/4) (18 Active Points) (Modifiers affect Base Characteristic)
39 2) +13 DEX
26 3) +13 CON
26 4) +13 BODY
13 5) +13 INT
26 6) +13 EGO
13 7) +13 PRE
6 8) +12 COM
5 9) +3 PD, Hardened (+1/4) (5 Active Points) (Modifiers affect Base Characteristic)
5 10) +3 ED, Hardened (+1/4) (5 Active Points) (Modifiers affect Base Characteristic)
10 11) Damage Resistance (8 PD/8 ED), Hardened (+1/4) (10 Active Points)
5 12) Life Support (Longevity: Immortal)
20 13) Running +7" (13" total), Reduced Endurance (1/2 END; +1/4) (20 Active Points)
35 14) Regeneration: Healing BODY 1d6 (standard effect: 3 points), Can Heal Limbs, Resurrection, Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2), Persistent (+1/2) (70 Active Points); Self Only (-1/2), Extra Time (Full Phase, -1/2)

30 Chi-assisted Martial Arts: Multipower, 75-point reserve, (75 Active Points); all slots No Range (-1/2), Activation Roll, Requires focusing Chi (An EGO Roll) 14- (-1/2), Side Effects (Takes 7.5d6 NND "feedback" if activation roll missed; -1/2)
1u 1) Tornado Punch: Energy Blast 15d6 (75 Active Points); 1 Charge (-2), Extra Time (Full Phase, -1/2), Side Effects (-1/2), No Range (-1/2), Activation Roll, Requires focusing Chi (An EGO Roll) 14- (-1/2), Limited Power, cannot be pulled, cannot be used at less than full power, cannot be pushed Power loses about a fourth of its effectiveness (-1/4)
3u 2) Focused Strike: Energy Blast 9 1/2d6, Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (72 Active Points); No Range (-1/2), Activation Roll, Requires focusing Chi (An EGO Roll) 14- (-1/2), Side Effects (Takes 7.5d6 NND "feedback" if activation roll missed; -1/2)
3u 3) Tornado Kick: Energy Blast 8d6, Does x1 1/2 Knockback (+3/4) (70 Active Points); No Range (-1/2), Activation Roll, Requires focusing Chi (An EGO Roll) 14- (-1/2), Side Effects (Takes 7.5d6 NND "feedback" if activation roll missed; -1/2)
3u 4) Vibrating Palm: Energy Blast 10d6, Penetrating (+1/2) (75 Active Points); No Range (-1/2), Activation Roll, Requires focusing Chi (An EGO Roll) 14- (-1/2), Side Effects (Takes 7.5d6 NND "feedback" if activation roll missed; -1/2)
3u 5) Ghost Touch: Energy Blast 5d6, Invisible Power Effects, Hide effects of Power (Fully Invisible; +2) (75 Active Points); No Range (-1/2), Activation Roll, Requires focusing Chi (An EGO Roll) 14- (-1/2), Side Effects (Takes 7.5d6 NND "feedback" if activation roll missed; -1/2)
3u 6) Ghost Strike: Energy Blast 10d6, Affects Desolidified Any form of Desolidification (+1/2) (75 Active Points); No Range (-1/2), Activation Roll, Requires focusing Chi (An EGO Roll) 14- (-1/2), Side Effects (Takes 7.5d6 NND "feedback" if activation roll missed; -1/2)
Powers Cost: 293

Cost Martial Arts Maneuver
Bojutsu [Notes: Abbie carries a telescoping titanium Bo Staff, but it is not a focus. If the staff is taken from her, she will find a mop, pool cue, piece of pipe, or some other stick-like object that, in her hands, will be as effective as her staff.]
4 1) Atemi Strike: 1/2 Phase, -1 OCV, +1 DCV, 2d6 NND
4 2) Bind: 1/2 Phase, +1 OCV, +0 DCV, Bind, 33 STR
4 3) Block: 1/2 Phase, +2 OCV, +2 DCV, Block, Abort
4 4) Disarm: 1/2 Phase, -1 OCV, +1 DCV, Disarm; 33 STR to Disarm
5 5) Jab: 1/2 Phase, +1 OCV, +3 DCV, Strike
3 6) Legsweep: 1/2 Phase, +2 OCV, -1 DCV, 5 1/2d6 Strike, Target Falls
4 7) Shove: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +0 DCV, 38 STR to Shove
4 8) Strike: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +2 DCV, 6 1/2d6 Strike
5 9) Smash: 1/2 Phase, -2 OCV, +1 DCV, STR + 4d6

Akido
4 1) Dodge: 1/2 Phase, -- OCV, +5 DCV, Dodge, Affects All Attacks, Abort
4 2) Escape: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +0 DCV, 38 STR vs. Grabs
4 3) Extended Ki: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +0 DCV, 38 STR to resist Shove; Block, Abort
3 4) Hold: 1/2 Phase, -1 OCV, -1 DCV, Grab Two Limbs, 33 STR for holding on
5 5) Joint Break: 1/2 Phase, -1 OCV, -2 DCV, Grab One Limb; HKA 1d6 +1 , Disable
4 6) Joint Lock/Throw: 1/2 Phase, +1 OCV, +0 DCV, Grab One Limb; 1d6 NND ; Target Falls
4 7) Redirect: 1/2 Phase, +2 OCV, +2 DCV, Block, Abort
5 8) Strike: 1/2 Phase, +1 OCV, +3 DCV, 4 1/2d6 Strike
3 9) Takedown: 1/2 Phase, +1 OCV, +1 DCV, 4 1/2d6 Strike; Target Falls
3 10) Throw: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +1 DCV, 4 1/2d6 +v/5, Target Falls

Ninjutsu
4 1) Atemi Punch: 1/2 Phase, -1 OCV, +1 DCV, 2d6 NND
4 2) Block: 1/2 Phase, +2 OCV, +2 DCV, Block, Abort
5 3) Breaking Throw: 1/2 Phase, -2 OCV, -2 DCV, Grab One Limb: HKA 1/2d6 (2DC), Disable; Target Falls
4 4) Choke Hold: 1/2 Phase, -2 OCV, +0 DCV, Grab One Limb; 2d6 NND
4 5) Dodge: 1/2 Phase, -- OCV, +5 DCV, Dodge, Affects All Attacks, Abort
3 6) Kick: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +0 DCV, STR + 4d6 Strike
4 7) Knife Hand: 1/2 Phase, -2 OCV, +0 DCV, HKA 1d6 +1
4 8) Punch: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +2 DCV, STR +2d6 Strike
4 9) Reversal: 1/2 Phase, -1 OCV, -2 DCV, STR + 15 to Escape; Grab Two Limbs
3 10) Sacrifice Throw: 1/2 Phase, +2 OCV, +1 DCV, 4 1/2d6 Strike; You Fall, Target Falls
5 11) Takeaway: 1/2 Phase, +0 OCV, +0 DCV, Grab Weapon, 33 STR to take weapon away
Martial Arts Cost: 120

Cost Skill
3 Acrobatics 14-
3 Breakfall 14-
3 High Society 14-
3 KS 12-
3 KS 12-
2 KS 11-
3 Lockpicking 14-
3 Security Systems 14-
3 Shadowing 14-
3 Sleight Of Hand 14-
3 Stealth 14-
5 WF: Common Martial Arts Melee Weapons, Common Melee Weapons, Off Hand
1 WF: Clubs, Staffs
Skills Cost: 38

Cost Perk
6 Money: Wealthy
Perks Cost: 6


Total Character Cost: 500

Base Points: 450
Experience Required: 50
Total Experience Available: 0
Experience Unspent: 0

Nechevo
May 17th, '08, 06:24 PM
Here's the balanced version of Victor VonDoom

Corven_Ren
May 17th, '08, 06:44 PM
Sorry, I am not going to have time for this. Withdrawing my application.


No Problem...I understand. Thanks Anyway

aylwin13
May 17th, '08, 06:59 PM
OK, here he is (I know, FINALLY).

I need 5 more points in Disads, and I need to flesh out his description a bit more. Let me know what needs tweaking, if anything.



Oh yeah, and Happy Natal Anniversary Day! :celebrate


EDIT: Revised & finalized doc's now attached.

Dr Archeville
May 17th, '08, 08:14 PM
Happy Birthing Day!

Corven_Ren
May 17th, '08, 10:20 PM
Happy Birthing Day!

Thanks, Gracias, Danke, and all them other Thank You things man.

Nechevo
May 17th, '08, 10:22 PM
Considering the time zone you are in...

Happy after-birth day

Alamias
May 19th, '08, 07:56 AM
Happy belated b-day!

aylwin13
May 19th, '08, 08:11 AM
So, did everyone who has characters submitted wish the Gm a Happy B-Day? ;):D

Corven_Ren
May 19th, '08, 09:42 AM
Ok after much mental debate and tossing characters back and forth here is the Line up for the Newly Reformed Justice Squadron

Checkmate

Valkyrie- Daughter of Thor Odinson and Wonder Woman


Querysphinx

Plastyque- Daughter of Reed & Susan Richards

Alamias

Moon Knight II- Son of Marc Spector the original Moon Knight & Marlene Alraune

RocketsRedGlare

Spider Lad- Son Of Spider Man & Black Cat.

Dr. Archeville

Scion- Geneticlly Engineered son of Namor & Susan Richard

Nechevo
Victor- Son of Dr. Doom, heir to the throne of Latveria

Aylwin13

Wildcard- Son of Gambit & Rogue

Thanks to all who applied it was a tough decision but I think that this will make for the best team. All the accepted players be sure to apply at HeroCentral.

DocSamson
May 19th, '08, 09:50 AM
Querysphinx

Plastyque- Daughter of Reed & Susan Richards

Scion- Geneticlly Engineered son of Namor & Susan Richard
Wow...this outta be some interesting roleplaying. "Mom loved my dad more..."

Dr Archeville
May 19th, '08, 10:22 AM
Wow...this outta be some interesting roleplaying. "Mom loved my dad more..."
"My father rules four-fifths of the planet. So shall I."

*applies at HeroCentral*

Alamias
May 19th, '08, 11:26 AM
Wow! So many good submissions I didn't think I would get in! Glad to be aboard!

RocketsRedGlare
May 19th, '08, 02:39 PM
Ummm, oops, glad to see I made the list despite not wishing you a happy birthday... ;)

Happy belated birthday!

Querysphinx
May 19th, '08, 05:02 PM
Got Plastyque applied. Awaiting further instructions.

Nechevo
May 19th, '08, 05:28 PM
Wow...this outta be some interesting roleplaying. "Mom loved my dad more..."

"I'm named after your father. "

Checkmate
May 19th, '08, 09:07 PM
I KNEW War Machine was left off that list for a reason :P

aylwin13
May 21st, '08, 09:40 AM
I've attached the finalized hdc & background doc for WildCard in the original post (http://www.herogames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1607441&postcount=235). The hdc is also posted on Hero Central.