What happened to San Angelo?

[Bud Gray]

A friend of mine is thinking of running a San Angelo campaign and I was wondering whatever happened to that setting. Gold Rush Games website has been down for a while or it moved to I don't know where, and last I looked they were planning a second edition with 5th edition stats and an updated setting. Has that been abandoned?

[TheQuestionMan]

IIRC, Mark posted somewhere on these forums what basically is a quote from John Lennon "Life is what happens while you are making other plans."

Mark Arsenault - San Angelo: City of Heroes
http://www.pen-paper.net/rpgdb.php?op=showcreator&creatorid=2169

RPMiller - San Angelo: City of Heroes
http://www.herogames.com/forums/member.php?u=42

Gold Rush Games - San Angelo: City of Heroes
http://www.sacoh.com/

SACoH Yahoo Group
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/SACoH/

Astro City HERO - Susano's Surbrook's Stuff
http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptationscomic/comicchar.html#astro

The Dragon's Gate: San Angelo's Chinatown
http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/10/10013.phtml


Cheers


QM


P.S.: Another great product for Gold Rush Games' Anthony J. Bryant is Sengoku
http://www.sengokudaimyo.com/

[TheQuestionMan]

Originally Posted 08-21-2007, 05:02 AM on RPGnet
What happened to Gold Rush Games?

Thanks to everyone here who has expressed concern about the "demise" of GRG. And thanks, also, to Rob Miller who let me know about this thread once I was back in contact with the world. Also many thanks to Greg Stolze and others for the words of support.

Unfortunately, I have been exceptionally slow to do any sort of updating on GRG items, from the web site to projects. For those who really want the skinny... The long and the short of it is that with Margaret at home taking care of our daughter and me back to work full-time outside of the house, I have ended up working a tremendous amount of over-time. What little precious "free time" I have left is taken up largely by familial commitments, leaving little meaningful time to work on GRG projects.

Add to this the fact that I had some server issues and all of my goldrushgames.com e-mail was blocked (returning "bounce" or rejected messages to all senders) starting back in May or June. This went one for several months before I realized that I was getting none of the mail from those servers (I was still getting e-mail from other addresses, so I thought it was just a "slow period" for GRG-mail-related messages).

Well, the issue was resolved and mail is coming through again. The next step is to try to salvage the web site. I still have no idea what;s happened there.

Apologies to anyone who's been waiting for me to respond to one message or another. If you tried to contact me in the last three months or so, assume I never got your message and feel free to resend it t me.

Action! System is dead? Well, I've long held that the life of a product is in the hands of the consumers, not our. We could crank out two new products a month all year long but if no one bought and used them, then the system would be effectively "dead." The reverse is true for products with no new support material coming out.

As a fellow consumer and gamer, however, I totally understand how some of you feel about the A!S. I had big plans, decent execution, and lousy follow through. The fix? A relaunch starting with Second Edition. When? Not for some time. I have things going on in my life right now -- and for the foreseeable short term -- that will all but prevent me from doing any substantial work on it (or Sengoku 2nd Ed for that matter).

I'd like to round up some help to develop these products. That is probably the next practical step.

Once again, thanks to everyone. And good gaming!
__________________
Mark Arsenault
President, Gold Rush Games
Action! System now OGL!
Eureka! Publishing & Distribution

[Lord Liaden]

Thank you for unearthing and transcribing that, TQM. :)

Just to add a bit of data: Gold Rush Games did publish an additional supplement for San Angelo a few years ago, with multiple game stats including HERO Fifth Edition: The Dragon's Gate: San Angelo's Chinatown. Apparently the sales for it were disappointing, which dampened GRG's enthusiasm for updating the setting generally. (Dragon's Gate was published in both hardcopy and PDF - I'd have to check on the Internet as to whether the PDF is still available for purchase.)

Despite that disappointment, GRG did hire one of our board colleagues, Rob Miller, who posts here as RPMiller, to revise and expand San Angelo. Unfortunately, with the state of the company as prez Mark Arsenault describes it above, that project has been languishing. Rob Miller would likely be the person to ask about its current status. Hopefully he'll see this thread and offer some input. (I just sent a Private Message to Rob pointing out the thread to him.)

[TheQuestionMan]

If your interested I can email you the unstated sourcebooks; Arroyo Verde - High-Tech San Angelo.pdf , PART Sourcebook.pdf , and the San Angelo City of Heroes Map.pdf .


Cheers


QM

[Fry Daddy]

Question Man, I would definately be interested in the pdfs you mention.

[aylwin13]

If your interested I can email you the unstated sourcebooks; Arroyo Verde - High-Tech San Angelo.pdf , PART Sourcebook.pdf , and the San Angelo City of Heroes Map.pdf .


Cheers


QM
I would also be very interested in those items. I plan on using SA for my campaign city when I start running my game.

[clsage]

If your interested I can email you the unstated sourcebooks; Arroyo Verde - High-Tech San Angelo.pdf , PART Sourcebook.pdf , and the San Angelo City of Heroes Map.pdf .
Cheers
QM

Add me to the chorus looking to take a gander at those pdf's, and thanks !!
My current Team Norfolk campaign owes much of it's inspiration to San
Angelo. :thumbup:

And yes, those who are in that campaign should probably avoid reading that
supplement.... :sneaky:

-Carl-

[Spence]

Thank you for unearthing and transcribing that, TQM. :)

Just to add a bit of data: Gold Rush Games did publish an additional supplement for San Angelo a few years ago, with multiple game stats including HERO Fifth Edition: The Dragon's Gate: San Angelo's Chinatown. Apparently the sales for it were disappointing, which dampened GRG's enthusiasm for updating the setting generally. (Dragon's Gate was published in both hardcopy and PDF - I'd have to check on the Internet as to whether the PDF is still available for purchase.)



Chinatown!!! There was a Chinatown supplement? I need to get that one, I have the others...


If your interested I can email you the unstated sourcebooks; Arroyo Verde - High-Tech San Angelo.pdf , PART Sourcebook.pdf , and the San Angelo City of Heroes Map.pdf .


Cheers


QM

Me too me too me too :D:D especially the map.....


hmmmm......mapsssss......hmmmmmm.......:doi:

[TheQuestionMan]

For the San Angelo sourcebooks pdfs

Look here

QM

[clsage]

For the San Angelo sourcebooks pdfs
<snip>
QM

Someone please give the man some rep....must spread some around.....sigh.

Thanks QM !

-Carl-

[aylwin13]

Someone please give the man some rep....must spread some around.....sigh.

Thanks QM !

-Carl-
I got 'im for us. :thumbup:

[Lord Liaden]

For the San Angelo sourcebooks pdfs

Look here

QM

Were these PDF originally free giveaways from Gold Rush Games?

[TheQuestionMan]

Yep, back before they started having trouble with their website.

I loved San Angelo and through it found Astro City.

QM

[Pariah]

Thanks for making the San Angelo stuff available, QM. Repped.

I'm about to wrap up a closed-ended campaign, and while I'm not planning on GMing again anytime soon (gotta love grad school!), San Angelo would be a great setting.

[TheQuestionMan]

Received REP for pdfs from:

BobGreenwade
Beast
Vann the Red
name_tamer
Pariah
OzMike
aylwin13
Spence
Lord Liaden
clsage
Tigereye
Black Ops


Thanks folks


QM

[BobGreenwade]

I might still have the old stats for the Arroyo Verde characters laying around. I don't know if Mark or Steve would have any objections to my posting them somewhere, but if not and if I do have them I might be willing to update them to 5ER (via HD) and post accordingly.

[TheQuestionMan]

I might still have the old stats for the Arroyo Verde characters laying around. I don't know if Mark or Steve would have any objections to my posting them somewhere, but if not and if I do have them I might be willing to update them to 5ER (via HD) and post accordingly.

I would love to have them. Everybody did such a good job righting up characters for San Angelo.

That would be fantastic

QM

[GoldenAge]

I'd never heard of San Angelo before but it's a PERFECT bookend to my own EPIC CITY.
Thanks all!!!!
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[TheQuestionMan]

Anyone else interested in San Angelo: City of Heroes by Gold Rush Games?


Cheers


QM

[Cardinal]

I might still have the old stats for the Arroyo Verde characters laying around. I don't know if Mark or Steve would have any objections to my posting them somewhere, but if not and if I do have them I might be willing to update them to 5ER (via HD) and post accordingly.

bring em on!!!

[bubba smith]

bring em on!!!
second the motion

[TheQuestionMan]

Heh Bob, did you ever find those "Arroyo Verde - High-Tech San Angelo" Character Write Ups?


Thanks


QM

[TheQuestionMan]

San Angelo: City of Heroes 6e


SA:COH FOREVER!!!


QM

[RavensPath]

Hi everyone. Just wanted to say I've loved San Angelo since it first came out. I am starting a new Champions game that will be set in San Angelo. Having fun rereading all the books and deciding what will be the main villains and storylines.

[TheQuestionMan]

Hi everyone. Just wanted to say I've loved San Angelo since it first came out. I am starting a new Champions game that will be set in San Angelo. Having fun rereading all the books and deciding what will be the main villains and storylines.

Enjoy the PDFs


Cheers


QM

[RavensPath]

Does anyone know if there has ever been any thought of updating San Angelo to 5/6th edition and the timeline? Reading my original books and the PDFs here makes me really want more for the city. I am doing some updating/changing for my upcoming campaign. In the front of the Arroyo Verde book it mentions Mystics of San Angelo.

[TheQuestionMan]

"Life is what happens while you are making other plans" - John Lennon


San Angelo: City of Heroes by Gold Rush Games is closed business. I am sorry to say there will be no future Source books, but we can hope.


QM

[RavensPath]

"Life is what happens while you are making other plans" - John Lennon


San Angelo: City of Heroes by Gold Rush Games is closed business. I am sorry to say there will be no future Source books, but we can hope.


QM

Thank you QM. That is what I thought but I wanted to check. I am having so much fun getting to run my San Angelo Campaign that I just dream about more source books for this wonderful city. I guess I will have to create them myself for my campaign.

What would be the policy of sharing such things here? I mean if I create a number of mystic teams based in San Angelo would I be able to share them here for others to use?

Thank you again for your answers and the PDFs. I am going to have a long weekend reading them and plotting my campaign.

[Lord Liaden]

Thank you QM. That is what I thought but I wanted to check. I am having so much fun getting to run my San Angelo Campaign that I just dream about more source books for this wonderful city. I guess I will have to create them myself for my campaign.

Out of curiosity, which volumes in the series do you have? There were a few source books published beyond the core SA setting.


What would be the policy of sharing such things here? I mean if I create a number of mystic teams based in San Angelo would I be able to share them here for others to use?

Folks share characters and plots they've created for published game worlds (including the official Champions Universe) all the time around here. As long as you don't reprint the stats of already-published characters (including your own modified versions), and don't transcribe a lot of background information or text from the books, there should be no issues. :thumbup:

[RavensPath]

Out of curiosity, which volumes in the series do you have? There were a few source books published beyond the core SA setting.



Folks share characters and plots they've created for published game worlds (including the official Champions Universe) all the time around here. As long as you don't reprint the stats of already-published characters (including your own modified versions), and don't transcribe a lot of background information or text from the books, there should be no issues. :thumbup:

I have the original San Angelo book (signed by Patrick Sweeney), Denziens of San Angelo and Enemies of San Angelo in book form, Dragon's Gate in PDF. And then the three PDFs that were posted in the thread. If I am missing any please let me know!

And thank you for clarifying what can be posted here. As I start to develop villains and teams I will start posting them here. My biggest chore right now is figuring out what I will keep with minimal changes from the books and what will be updated since 12 years have gone by.