Compound END

[Citizen Keen]

One of the following is true:

1.) I don't know how to do something in HD.

2.) I am violating a FREd rule I am unaware of.

3.) I would like to add a request to the next version of HD.


When I make a compund power, it computes the END individually. So, if I want to build the following power:

Detect (5 Active Points), Costs END
Discriminatory (5 Active Points) Costs END, Extra Phase
Analyze (5 Active Points) Costs END, Full Turn
+5 with Roll (5 Active Points) Costs END, 1 Minute

and I build it as a Compound Power, HD says it costs 4 END even though it has an Active Point Cost of 20.

What do I do?

[Simon]

HD is following the rules. The END is calculated for each part of a Compound Power. There is a minimum of 1 END for any END using Power, so each of the 5 AP abilities round "up" to 1 END. This is where the total of 4 END comes from.

It is correct according to the rules of the system.

If you are looking for a way to have the CompoundPower really just be a single, unique ability (not a collection of abilities) then what you're looking to do is define your own Custom Power. If this is the case, I'd recommend using the Compound Power for your guidelines on point costs for the Custom Power.

[Citizen Keen]

But I can buy Detect/Discriminatory/Analyze as one power. I just want to place different Lims on each Adder. Can I do this, or am I bumping up against the limits of HD?

[Simon]

It's not the limits of HD, it's the rules of the system.

[Citizen Keen]

I know I'm like a dog worrying a bone, and I'm sorry. I'm not quesitoning DSimon's ruling, but I just don't get why this is...

If you want to place different limitations on the adders of a single power, does each adder have to be calculated as a seperate power?

i.e. If you wanted to make a 1d6 EB (5 Active Points) and give it Continuous (+1, an additional 5 Active Points), you would have a power with an END of 1.

If you wanted to make a 1d6 EB (5 Active Points), and wanted to make it Continuous (+1, an additional 5 Active Points) when the character had a special glowing staff (OAF, -1, only on the Continuous, so, a total of 2.5 Active Points on the Continuous), for a grand total of 7.5 Active Points, for a cost of 1 END. To build this in HD, you get and END cost of 2.

Where does it say (that's an antagonistic phrase, not meant that way at all) that when I do this I have to spend 2 END? I'm just familiar with HERO's 1 END per 10 Active Points rule.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,

-cK

[Simon]

Rounding rules. That's all there is to it.

Any ability that costs END will cost at least 1 END, even if it's only 1 Active Point.

Each ability in a Compound Power is calculated individually (per the rules). Rounding rules apply at each calculation.

HD is doing the math according to the rules of the Hero System.