Super Transportation

[SSgt Baloo]

ETA: 15 MAR 2012
I started a playlist >Strange Vehicles (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL89F8C672641CCE52)< on Youtube. If anyone finds something you think I might want to know about , either PM me a link or post it in this thread, if appropriate./ETA

Ordinarily, superheroes shouldn't have to wait for the bus or hail a cab. This thread is for links to (or pictures of) aircraft, spacefraft, or any combination of the two that superheroes might use.


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XST-71V Supersonic Transport

The XST-71V supersonic transport is a development of the technology that went into the SR-71. The original purpose of this craft was to provide the US Military with a supersonic transport with VTOL capability for its Rapid-Deployment Forces. Unfortunately, the cost-benefits analysis for this VTOL-SST was completed after the first few prototypes had been assembled. The XST-71V was demilitarized and sold to Danforth Industries, which has refitted the vehicle with Electrostatic thrusters powered by a compact prototype electroplasma power generator. Performance is still classified, but top speed is estimated to be Mach 3+, and maximum altitude is more than 100,000 feet (roughly 30,000 meters). It is currently on loan to the International Defenders of Freedom.


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super Transport/AerospaceCraft1.png

General Products Aerospace Shuttle Mk IV
(GPA-S Mk IV)
Originally designed as a SSTO replacement for the shuttle, the GPA-S Mk IV program was cancelled. In order to recoup at least part of the expense of developing the thing in the first place, GPA has made this shuttle available to several different superteams at different times. It is currently on-loan to the Near-Space Defence Force for testing advanced propulsion systems.


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Golden Age Batman's Batplane
(XP-67 Bat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XP-67_Bat))

ETA: I removed the original and replaced it with this, though I've done a couple of different variations on this same airframe since.

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CS-10 Chapparral

When the Brotherhood of Justice asked to purchase the burned out hulk of the XB-190 so they could restore it to flying condition for their own use, the GAO advised the Air Force to sell it for whatever they could get, after removing all classified systems. Eight months later, Professor Mind rolled out this pale gold aircraft and began submitting paperwork to have it certified as a spacecraft. The FAA and Nasa were difficult to convince that the refurbished aircraft was now space-capable, but after a quick jaunt to the moon, officials approved the design. The BoJ has used this craft to construct their own space station in geostationary orbit above the U.S., and has even aided resupply of the international space station.

Performance is unknown, but there is some speculation that the vehicle uses a faster-than-light propulsion system, at least when in space.

[fiducia]

HEROS one and all! I present to you...

The Bugatti Veyron!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron

What my favorite car/Brit show had to say about it...

http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2006/01/stories/02/3.html

Deck this baby out and you can't go wrong!

[SSgt Baloo]

I found a bunch of aircraft diagrams and had to download and clean up as many as I could (Scanned images often turn out a bit wonky). Of course, I can never leave well enough alone, so here's one of my first efforts.*




http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/Jetstang.png
Edit: JP-51 "Jetstang"


*The P-67 and XST-71V are my first efforts, though the clean-up on the "Batplane" is still incomplete.

[DusterBoy]

Ace pix, SSGT Baloo. I've always imagined a top-flight team of superheroes would have something that looked like USAF/Area 51/NASA "black project". I'd give it an electric (ie: "anti-gravity") propulsion system too.

Is this a real science? It depends on who you ask. I suspect that an orthodox scientist would say no, but Thomas Townsend Brown and Dr Paul Biefeld, neither man regarded as a crackpot, had success with electro-hydrodynamics and the "Biefeld Brown Effect" is a real phenomenon.

Of course, the controversy exists because of the crossover into UFOlogy and the banned phrase "anti-gravity".

Of course, in a superhero campaign with super-genius gadgeteers, there's every possibility that there exists a working electro-gravitic drive.

And maybe FTL as well.

Of course, reproducing the technology is the trick, isn't it?

I look forward to more of these pictures.

:thumbup: :thumbup:

[Checkmate]

How about:
http://www.wcnews.com/newestshots/full/WingCommander_Topdown_ships.jpg

[SSgt Baloo]

How about:
[Image deleted in the interest of unredundancy]

Too many sharp angles and dark colors. Those are obviously the alien invaders commin' to take our wimmen!

Seriously, good work!

Another never-was from the Golden Age:


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/CometII.png

XP-59C Comet II

[SSgt Baloo]

I just love oddball aircraft!

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_I-250_%28N%29)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/I-250_back.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_I-250_%28N%29)
Mig I-250

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ac/Sukhoi_Su-5.jpg
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-5) Sukhoi SU-5

http://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/%7Ebat/GA/SC-MODEL/IMRIE/BP/sc-bp-01.jpg
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercar_%28TV_series%29) Any Gerry Anderson production is also a good source.

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/Y-35.png
Y-35 HST & Spacecraft
Patterned after the X-24B (http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=559) test vehicle.


In case I haven't made it clear, you're welcome to use these vehicles in your own games, so long as you give credit if anyone asks (and which can be as vague as "This was done by some guy from the Hero System Boards").

[concord]

This is the Erne (a type of sea eagle), it is the vehicle that the Wardens use to get from Alcatraz island to the mainland and the vehicle picture that was its inspiration.

http://www.angeva.com/images/boards/erne2.gifhttp://www.angeva.com/images/boards/wig.gif

When designing/mapping a vehicle, I usually only work on half of it. Then when that half is completed I mirror it for the opposite half.

[concord]

Here is the Pegasus and Hippogriff, the Wardens' VTOL aircraft.

http://www.angeva.com/images/boards/pegasus.gif..........http://www.angeva.com/images/boards/hippogriff.gif

[SSgt Baloo]

When designing/mapping a vehicle, I usually only work on half of it. Then when that half is completed I mirror it for the opposite half.

Excellent technique. I use that method also. As a consequence, most of my vehicles are an odd number of pixels wide.


Here is the Pegasus and Hippogriff, the Wardens' VTOL aircraft.

What I can see of them is pretty impressive. Can you do three-views of them (or if you can't, do you mind if I have a go at it)?

[concord]

What I can see of them is pretty impressive. Can you do three-views of them (or if you can't, do you mind if I have a go at it)?Go ahead and have a go at it... I can see things from overhead but am not very good at extrapolating it to 3-view...

[Beast]

we have a character that can teleport the team
however the smallest hop is 1 km
and most of the team are fairly slow ground pounders

During a battle with Black Paladin our team needed to follow rapidly so everyone got into a dumpster and was carried to the next battle site

the first Dumpster of Justice came to an end 30 seconds after landing when it was used to smash Black Paladin in a move through after he had been entangled less than a second before

Mk 2(current version) has been made from an 8m long conex box fitted with enough armor to rival a battleship
also included
nanite comm system
an air lock and life support system enough to get in to space with redundancy
it can float and move very slowly on water
and lastly a gravity based teleport system that can move the dumpster 1km,10 km,100km and interface with the powers of team's #3 brick whose powers increase it's range up to 600km per hop
max capacity 9.6 tons + dumpster weight of 6.4 tons=16 tons total wt








The Dumpster of Justice

Val Char Cost Notes
6 Size 30 Length 4", Width 2", Area 8" Mass 6.4 ton KB -6
40 STR 0 HTH Damage 8d6 END [4]
0 DEX -30 OCV 0 DCV -4
16 BODY 0
24 DEF 66
0 SPD -10 Phases: (none)
Total Characteristic Cost: 43

Movement:
Swimming: 1"/2"
Teleportation: 1"/2"

Abilities & Equipment
Cost Power END
16 Mind Link , human class of minds, Specific Group of Minds, Any distance, No LOS Needed, Number of Minds (x8), Psychic Bond (45 Active Points); IAF Immobile Fragile Expendable (Easy to obtain new Focus; -1 ¾)
14 LS (Safe in High Pressure; Safe in High Radiation; Safe in Intense Cold; Safe in Intense Heat; Safe in Low Pressure/Vacuum; Self-Contained Breathing) (19 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1)
Notes: (x2 number of items)
24 Teleportation 1", x16 Increased Mass, Usable By Other (+¼), MegaScale (1" = 100 km; +¾), Can Be Scaled Down 1" = 1km (+¼) (49 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1)

Perks
2 Fringe Benefit: Emergency Services Vehicle

Talents
1 Eidetic Memory (5 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Fuel Dependent (fuel is Very Common; must refuel Once per 6 Hours; DVD discs; -¾), Activation Roll 14- (-½)

Total Abilities & Equipment Cost: 57
Total Vehicle Cost: 100

Value Disadvantages
10 Distinctive Features: armored conex box named the dumpster of justice (Concealable; Noticed and Recognizable; Detectable By Commonly-Used Senses)
15 Physical Limitation: Steel box (Frequently, Greatly Impairing)
15 Reputation: graffiti target, 14-
20 Hunted: UNTIL 14- (As Pow, NCI, PC has a Public ID or is otherwise very easy to find, Watching)
10 Hunted: CLOWN 8- (Less Pow, PC has a Public ID or is otherwise very easy to find, Harshly Punish)
25 Hunted: Viper 8- (Mo Pow, NCI, PC has a Public ID or is otherwise very easy to find, Harshly Punish)

Total Disadvantage Points: 95
Total Cost: 5/5 = 1

[SSgt Baloo]

Go ahead and have a go at it... I can see things from overhead but am not very good at extrapolating it to 3-view...

Thanks! I'll download the top views now and see what I can come up with.


The Dumpster of Justice....

"Dumpster of Justice"?!? *Snicker!*

I'll bet everyone in your campaign is having much fun.


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Even the badguys need cool transport. This would be for a Golden-Age campaign and is based on the Weserflug P.1003/1 (http://www.luft46.com/misc/wes1003.html) (link provided).




http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/DerHoverPlane.png
Der Schwebeflugfläche
(Or "Hoverplane" Auf English.)

[Vulcan]

http://www.herogames.com/forums/images/icons/rofl.gif Dumpster of Justice! Priceless!http://www.herogames.com/forums/images/icons/rofl.gif

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/For%20Concord/Erne.png
The Erne

Although designed as a wing-in-ground-effect (WIG) aircraft, and thus classified as a boat for licensing purposes, the Erne may, with auxiliary power engaged, climb to 20,000 feet. It's intended operating altitude (IOA) is, however, only 35 feet. While cruising at IOA, the Erne consumes only slightly more fuel than it does while taxiing. With a cruise speed of up to 250 knots, the Erne is both faster and more fuel-efficient than airborne or even most waterborne vehicles.

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/For%20Concord/Hippogriff.png

The Hippogriff


The Hippogriff is the smaller of two VTOL aircraft used by the Wardens. It seats 5, including the pilot. There is a navigational dome just aft of the cockpit and both a dorsal hatch and aft ramp for easy egress. The V-tail design was chosen specifically to facilitate egress/ingress by flying supers while the craft is in flight.



Edit: incorrect name has been corrected. Check back periodically as I try to improve the concept. Right noiw* I can see there's not much headroom. :doi:

More Edit: I just figured out this IS the Hippogriff, so I'll be making changes. Stay tuned.

(Hopefully) Last Edit: I think I've fixed all the glaring faults so it probably won't change any more. On to the Pegasus!

* I must've been channelling TCWOAN (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Modern%20Heroes%203/TCWOAN.png).

[shadowcat1313]

some great vehicle designs folks

on the Erne is that a real?concept vehicle?

I know some of the soviet widge craft were capable of limited flight, but the fuel consompution went through the roof, and they couldnt keep it up for long

[shadowcat1313]

ok, do you have stats for the Erne, or can I take a crack at it?

just going by rough dimensional volume, were looking at a 36 displacement ton vehicle[500 cubic meters volume/14 giving 36 DT] do we have an idea on her speed and Dex?

what era tech, cold war, modern, futuristic?
how much detail do you want in the write up?
is it armed?

[shadowcat1313]

ok, do you have stats for the Erne, or can I take a crack at it?

just going by rough dimensional volume, were looking at a 36 displacement ton vehicle[500 cubic meters volume/14 giving 36 DT] do we have an idea on her speed and Dex? figuring Size 10, STR 60


what era tech, cold war, modern, futuristic?
how much detail do you want in the write up?
is it armed?

[concord]

The Erne is a vehicle designed for transporting a superhero team... so my rating of the technology would be modern with futuristic elements... I haven't stat'ed it out yet... DEX and SPD would both be human max as the pilots are not 'supers'... if you want to take a crack at it be my guest.

The picture it was based on was a concept vehicle that I found on this site http://www.se-technology.com/wig/index.php

[NestorDRod]

Dunno if this helps at all, but way back in one of the supers game I played in, we used customized Moller Skycars (linky (http://www.moller.com/)) for our team vehicles.

IIRC, Susano even has stats for the beastie in his site. Yup, here (http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptationsvehicles/realair/moller400.html) it is.

[SSgt Baloo]

Even more flying cars at Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/tag/Flying%20Car/).

[shadowcat1313]

ok, heres version 1 of the Erne, unarmed, decent off the shelf sensor package, a little armor, chaff and flare pods and a radar warning receiver.

ERNE V1
Val Char Cost Notes
10 Size 50 Length 10.08", Width 5.04", Area 50.8" Mass 102.4 ton KB -10
60 STR 0 Lift 102.4tons; 12d6
20 DEX 30 OCV 7 DCV 1
22 BODY 2
2 DEF 0
4 SPD 10 Phases: 3, 6, 9, 12
Total Characteristic Cost: 80

Movement: Swimming: 2" / 4"
Leaping: 0"
Flight: 48" / 1536"

Cost Powers END
Propulsion Modes
14 1) WIGE Flight: Flight 24", x8 Noncombat (58 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Fuel Dependent (fuel is Very Common; must refuel Once per 6 Hours; -3/4), Limited Maneuverability Only 1 turn per Phase at Combat speed; only 1 turn per Turn at Noncombat speed (-1/2), Difficult to Operate (-1/4), Crew-Served (2 people; -1/4), Only In Contact With A Surface (-1/4), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) Note: 2 large drive fans in armored housings above and behind cockpit 0
15 2) Standard Flight with Auxilary Power Systems: Flight 24", x8 Noncombat (58 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Fuel Dependent (fuel is Very Common; must refuel Once per 6 Hours; -3/4), Custom Modifier (20,000 feet service ceiling; -1/2), Crew-Served (2 people; -1/4), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 0
Tactical Systems
Defensive Systems
3 1) Radar Warning Receiver: Detect Detection By Radar 14- (Radio Group) (8 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 0
4 2) Chaff and Flare Pods: Radio Group and Infrared Perception Images 1" radius (10 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), 6 Continuing Charges lasting 1 Turn each (-1/4), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) Note: mounted in sockets at bottom rear of drive fan housings [6 cc]
5 3) Crash Web Systems for Cockpit: Energy Damage Reduction, 50% (20 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (only vs collision and roll damage; -1), Real Armor (-1/4), Extra Time (Full Phase, Only to Activate, -1/4), Limited Coverage Nearly 360 Degrees (Coverage does not protect some occupants; does not protect cargo area; -1/4) 0
7 4) Alloy Construction with advanced composites: Armor (4 PD/4 ED) (12 Active Points); Ablative BODY Only (-1/2), Real Armor (-1/4) 0
Electronics
10 1) Advanced Radar Package: Radar (Radio Group), +3 to PER Roll, Concealed (-2 with Radar PER Rolls), Increased Arc Of Perception (360 Degrees), Telescopic: +4 (27 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Sense Affected As More Than One Sense [very common Sense] (-1/2), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) Note: Top of Tail mounted bulge 0
7 2) Advanced Sonar Package: Active Sonar (Hearing Group), +2 to PER Roll, Concealed (-2 with Active Sonar PER Rolls) (19 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Sense Affected As More Than One Sense [very common Sense] (-1/2), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) Note: Arrays mounted in lower fintip pods forward of cockpit 0
9 3) FLIR: Infrared Perception (Sight Group), +3 to PER Roll, Discriminatory, Increased Arc Of Perception (360 Degrees), Telescopic: +3 (20 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 0
3 4) Communications System: Radio Perception/Transmission (Radio Group) (10 Active Points); OAF Bulky (-1 1/2), Affected As Hearing Group As Well As Radio Group (-1/4), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 0
6 5) GPS and Navigation Computer: Navigation (Air, Land, Marine) 14- (14 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Equipment; -1/4), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4)
Personnel Systems
19 1) Fire Extinguishing System: (Total: 98 Active Cost, 19 Real Cost) Detect Unauthorized/Uncontrolled Fires 14- (no Sense Group) (8 Active Points); Only Within Affected Area (20" x 20" zone; -2) (Real Cost: 3) plus Dispel Fire Powers 10d6, all Fire powers simultaneously (+2) (90 Active Points); Only Within Affected Area (20" x 20" zone; -2), 2 Charges (-1 1/2), OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) (Real Cost: 16) [2]
7 2) Pressurized Cabin: Life Support (Safe in Intense Cold; Safe in Intense Heat; Self-Contained Breathing) (14 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1) 0


Talents
1 Absolute Range Sense (3 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4)
1 Absolute Time Sense (3 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4)
1 Bump Of Direction (3 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4)
2 Eidetic Memory (5 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4)
2 Speed Reading (x10) (4 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4)


Skills
4 +2 with Flight


Total Powers & Skill Cost: 120
Total Cost: 200

200+ Disadvantages
10 Physical Limitation: +4 to enemy perception rolls with radar and sight in WIGE Mode (Frequently, Slightly Impairing) Note: when in WIGE mode the craft throws off a huge rooster tail like a hydrofoil or worse, making it easier to spot
15 Distinctive Features: known supergroup vehicle (Not Concealable; Noticed and Recognizable; Detectable By Commonly-Used Senses)
10 Physical Limitation: Air Breathing Engines, limited service ceiling , and cant go underwater (Infrequently, Greatly Impairing)
10 Reputation: known supergroup vehicle, 11-
0 Experience Points

Total Disadvantage Points: 200

comments... questions... advice?

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/For%20Concord/Pegasus.png

The Pegasus


The Pegasus is the larger of two VTOL aircraft used by the Wardens. It seats 14, including the pilot/navigator and copilot/radio operator. There is a navigational dome just aft of the cockpit and both a dorsal hatch and aft ramp for easy egress. The V-tail design was chosen specifically to facilitate egress/ingress by flying supers while the craft is in flight.

[shadowcat1313]

if you can give me more specs on both vehicles I can kit up both, I went with basic non combat electronics for the Erne. but if you want I can do some upgrades easy enough...

thats the nice thing about Hero Designer. I can plug changes and updates in quickly

[concord]

This is what I have for Pegasus so far...

Pegasus

VAL...CHA...Cost...Total...Roll......Notes
.8....Size....40......8..............Mass 25.6 ton, KB -8
50....STR......0.....50.....19-......HTH Damage 10d6 END [5]
20....DEX.....30.....20.....13-......OCV 7 DCV 2
20....BODY.....2.....20.....13-
.4....SPD.....10......4..............Phases: 3, 6, 9, 12
.5....RUN.....-2......5".............END [0]
.0....SWIM....-2......0".............END [0]
.0....LEAP.....0......0".............0" forward, 0" upward

CHA Cost: 108

Cost...POWERS
.......Propulsion System
..54...1) Mini-High Bypass Turbofan Engines: Flight 30", x16 Noncombat, Sideways
..........Maneuverability half velocity (+1/4), Combat Acceleration/Deceleration
..........(+1/4), Rapid Noncombat Movement (+1/4) (131 Active Points); Fuel Dependent
..........(fuel is Common; must refuel Once per 6 Hours; -1), OIF Bulky (-1)
..........[Notes: (x4 number of items)] - END=0
.......Flight Control Systems
...7...1) Advanced Flight Controls: +3 Skill Levels with Flight (15 Active Points);
..........OIF Bulky (-1)
...7...2) Computer Assisted Evasion System: +3 with DCV (15 Active Points);
..........OIF Bulky (-1)
..20...3) Emergency Autopilot: (Total: 42 Active Cost, 20 Real Cost)
..........Combat Piloting 12- (9 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Reduces Vehicle
..........to 1/2 DCV (-1/4), Only to land the Pegasus (-1) (Real Cost: 3)
..........plus
..........Navigation (Air, Land) 12- (9 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Only to
..........land the Pegasus (-1) (Real Cost: 3)
..........plus
..........Systems Operation (Global Positioning System, Radar, Terrain Identification
..........Visual Sensors) 12- (9 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Only to land the
..........Pegasus (-1) (Real Cost: 3)
..........plus
..........AK: San Francisco (5 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Only to land the
..........Pegasus (-1) 12- (Real Cost: 2)
..........plus
..........AK: San Francisco Bay Area (5 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Only to land
..........the Pegasus (-1) 12- (Real Cost: 2)
..........plus
..........AK: Northern California (5 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Only to land
..........the Pegasus (-1) 12- (Real Cost: 2)
..........[Notes: (x2 number of items) - The emergency autopilot is capable of landing
..........the Pegasus in the event that all skilled pilots onboard are incapacitated.
..........The system is not combat rated and cannot use the aircraft's advanced
..........maneuvering systems (No Noncombat, No Sideways Maneuverability, No Combat
..........Acceleration/Deceleration, No Rapid Noncombat Movement, No Computer Assisted
..........Evasion System). If in a populated area, the emergency autopilot failsafe
..........system requires outside verification of the chosen emergency landing area before
..........attempting to land. If such verification is not given, the emergency autopilot
..........will default to a controlled crash landing at sea.] - END=0
...7...4) Global Positioning System: Detect: GPS Coordinates 12- (Radio Group),
..........Discriminatory, Rapid: x100 (17 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Sense Affected
..........as Sight as Well as Radio Group (-1/2) - END=0
...1...5) Navigation Instruments: Bump Of Direction (3 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1)
...6...6) Vehicle Diagnostic Sensors: Detect Vehicle Performance and Use Information 14-
..........(Unusual Group), Sense (12 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1) - END=0
.......General Systems
..13...1) Battery: Endurance Reserve (10 END, 10 REC) Reserve: (11 Active Points);
..........OIF Bulky (-1); REC: (10 Active Points); REC Only When Vehicles Engine is
..........Running (-1/4) [Notes: (x2 number of items)] - END=0
...1...2) Chronometer: Absolute Time Sense (3 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1)
..30...3) Headlights and Floodlamps: Sight Group Images Increased Size (+1/2) (8" Cone; +0),
..........+4 to PER Rolls, Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (44 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1),
..........Only To Create Light (-1) [Notes: (x8 number of items)] - END=0
...6...4) Internal Lights: Sight Group Images Increased Size (+1/2) (4" Any Area; +0),
..........Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (20 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Only To Create
..........Light (-1), Self Only (-1/2) - END=0
...4...5) Signal Lights: Sight Group Images 1" radius, Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2)
..........(15 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Only To Create Specific Types of Light (-1),
..........Self Only (-1/2) - END=0
.......Operation Systems
..10...1) Communication System: HRRP (Radio Group) (12 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1),
..........Sense Affected as Sight and Hearing Group as Well as Radio Group (-1/2)
..........[Notes: (x2 number of items)] - END=0
..15...2) Radar Array: Radar (Radio Group), Increased Arc Of Perception (360 Degrees),
..........Rapid: x100, Telescopic: +7 (30 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1) - END=0
..26...3) Terrain Identification Visual Sensors: (Total: 42 Active Cost, 26 Real Cost)
..........Increased Arc Of Perception (360 Degrees) with Sight Group (10 Active Points);
..........OIF Bulky (-1) (Real Cost: 5)
..........plus
..........+8 versus Range Modifier for Sight Group (12 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1)
..........(Real Cost: 6)
..........plus
..........Discriminatory with Sight Group (10 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1) (Real Cost: 5)
..........plus
..........Rapid (x100) with Sight Group (10 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1) (Real Cost: 5)
..........[Notes: (x2 number of items)] - END=0
.......Personnel Systems
..14...1) Sealed Environment: LS (Safe in High Pressure; Safe in High Radiation; Safe in
..........Intense Cold; Safe in Intense Heat; Safe in Low Pressure/Vacuum; Self-Contained
..........Breathing) (19 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1)
..........[Notes: (x2 number of items)] - END=0

POWERS Cost: 221

Base Pts: 200
Exp Required: 129
Total Exp Available: 0
Exp Unspent: 0
Total Character Cost: 329

[concord]

ok, heres version 1 of the Erne

<snip vehicle stats>

comments... questions... advice?Thanks... still looking it over... looks good so far... more comments to follow...

[concord]

The Pegasus


The Pegasus is the larger of two VTOL aircraft used by the Wardens. It seats 14, including the pilot/navigator and copilot/radio operator. There is a navigational dome just aft of the cockpit and both a dorsal hatch and aft ramp for easy egress. The V-tail design was chosen specifically to facilitate egress/ingress by flying supers while the craft is in flight.

Love the pic... it has the look and feel that I imagined for the Pegasus...

[concord]

The Hippogriff


The Hippogriff is the smaller of two VTOL aircraft used by the Wardens. It seats 5, including the pilot. There is a navigational dome just aft of the cockpit and both a dorsal hatch and aft ramp for easy egress. The V-tail design was chosen specifically to facilitate egress/ingress by flying supers while the craft is in flight.

Edit: incorrect name has been corrected. Check back periodically as I try to improve the concept. Right now* I can see there's not much headroom. :doi:

More Edit: I just figured out this IS the Hippogriff, so I'll be making changes. Stay tuned.

(Hopefully) Last Edit: I think I've fixed all the glaring faults so it probably won't change any more. On to the Pegasus!Hippogriff looks good... kind of slim and trim, but not quite... a different vision from mine... I like it none the less...

My conception when designing it was a flying pig of a machine... not graceful looking at all... a brute force short hop, flying taxi versus the Pegasus as the pretty aerodynamic long range exec jet...

The mapping of the cabin area is based on a Blackhawk helo and the wings are from a Harrier jumpjet... my mind's eye pictured over the fuselage wings with a fat bulbous body beneath... engines under the wings snug to the fuselage with rear exit ramp like a Sea Stallion...

Must rep others, etc... oh well... more rep for you when I can...

Thank you for all the pics... they will be going up on the Wardens Chronicles website properly credited as soon as I get a chance to post them...

[TheQuestionMan]

Bloody Brilliant Thread

Thanks

QM

[shadowcat1313]

ok, decided to build a less subtle version of the Erne, I fitted it with off the shelf electronics from the Longbow Apache. the weapons packs are retractable

ERNE V2
Val Char Cost Notes
10 Size 50 Length 10.08", Width 5.04", Area 50.8" Mass 102.4 ton KB -10
60 STR 0 Lift 102.4tons; 12d6
20 DEX 30 OCV 7 DCV 1
22 BODY 2
2 DEF 0
4 SPD 10 Phases: 3, 6, 9, 12
Total Characteristic Cost: 80

Movement: Swimming: 2" / 4"
Leaping: 0"
Flight: 48" / 1536"

Cost Powers END
Propulsion Modes
12 1) WIGE Flight: Flight 24", x8 Noncombat (58 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Fuel Dependent (fuel is Very Common; must refuel Once per 6 Hours; -3/4), Limited Maneuverability Only 1 turn per Phase at Combat speed; only 1 turn per Turn at Noncombat speed (-1/2), Side Effects, Side Effect occurs automatically whenever Power is used (Leaves a large rooster tail in wake, makes detection easier; -1/2), Difficult to Operate (-1/4), Crew-Served (2 people; -1/4), Only In Contact With A Surface (-1/4), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4), Cannot Move Backwards (-1/4) Note: 2 large drive fans in armored housings above and behind cockpit 0
13 2) Standard Flight with Auxilary Power Systems: Flight 24", x8 Noncombat, Custom Modifier (Capable of In Flight Refueling; +1/4) (72 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Takeoff/Landing (-1), Fuel Dependent (fuel is Very Common; must refuel Once per 6 Hours; -3/4), Custom Modifier (20,000 feet service ceiling; -1/2), Side Effects (Turbine fan suction, can cause FOD problems, capes are a bad idea; -1/2), Crew-Served (2 people; -1/4), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4), Cannot Move Backwards (-1/4) 0
Tactical Systems
Defensive Systems
22 1) AN/ALQ-136 Radar Jammer: Suppress Radar 4d6, MegaArea (1" = 1 km; +1/4), Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2), Area Of Effect (8" Radius; +1 1/4) (60 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), No Range (-1/2), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 0
4 2) AN/APR-39A Radar Warning Receiver: Detect Detection By Radar 16- (Radio Group) (10 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 0
4 3) AN/AVR-2 Laser Warning Receiver: Detect Detection by Lasers 16- (Radio Group) (10 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 0
3 4) ALQ-44 Chaff and Flare Pod: Radio Group and Infrared Perception Images 1" radius (10 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Linked (???; -1/2), 6 Continuing Charges lasting 1 Turn each (-1/4), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) Note: mounted in sockets at bottom rear of drive fan housings, [6 cc]
5 5) Crash Web Systems for Cockpit: Energy Damage Reduction, 50% (20 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (only vs collision and roll damage; -1), Real Armor (-1/4), Extra Time (Full Phase, Only to Activate, -1/4), Limited Coverage Nearly 360 Degrees (Coverage does not protect some occupants; does not protect cargo area; -1/4) 0
7 6) Alloy Construction with advanced composites: Armor (4 PD/4 ED) (12 Active Points); Ablative BODY Only (-1/2), Real Armor (-1/4) 0
Electronics
17 1) Longbow Millimeter Wave Radar: Radar (Radio Group), +2 to PER Roll, Discriminatory, Increased Arc Of Perception (360 Degrees), Telescopic: +19, Difficult To Dispel (x2 Active Points; +1/4) (46 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Sense Affected As More Than One Sense [very common Sense] (-1/2), Custom Modifier (Real Equipment; -1/4) Note: mounted on upper wing above cockpit 0
3 2) AN/AAQ-11 Night Vision System: Infrared Perception (Sight Group), +1 to PER Roll, Increased Arc Of Perception (240 Degrees) (8 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 0
3 3) AN/AAQ-11 Night Vision System: Nightvision, +1 to PER Roll, Increased Arc Of Perception (240 Degrees) (8 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 0
7 4) Advanced Sonar Package: Active Sonar (Hearing Group), +2 to PER Roll, Concealed (-2 with Active Sonar PER Rolls) (19 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Sense Affected As More Than One Sense [very common Sense] (-1/2), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) Note: Arrays mounted in lower fintip pods forward of cockpit 0
3 5) Have Quick Communications System: Radio Perception/Transmission (Radio Group) (10 Active Points); OAF Bulky (-1 1/2), Affected As Hearing Group As Well As Radio Group (-1/4), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 0
3 6) Sattelite Uplink: Mind Link , Machine class of minds, Specific Group of Minds (10 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Only With Others Who Have Mind Link (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 0
6 7) GPS and Navigation Computer: Navigation (Air, Land, Marine) 14- (14 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Equipment; -1/4), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4)
Personnel Systems
11 1) Ejectable Cockpit Module: (Total: 57 Active Cost, 11 Real Cost) Telekinesis (26 STR) (39 Active Points); Only To Throw Target Straight Up (-2), 1 Recoverable Charge (-1 1/4), OIF Bulky (-1), No Range (-1/2), Affects Whole Object (-1/4), Gestures (-1/4), Incantations (-1/4) (Real Cost: 6) plus Armor (6 PD/6 ED) (18 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Ablative BODY Only (-1/2), Custom Modifier (only vs attacks from side and rear; -1/2), Real Armor (-1/4) (Real Cost: 5) Note: originally borrowed from Battletech, but the F-111 carries one, and there were plans to equip the space shuttle with one [1 rc]
19 2) Fire Extinguishing System: (Total: 98 Active Cost, 19 Real Cost) Detect Unauthorized/Uncontrolled Fires 14- (no Sense Group) (8 Active Points); Only Within Affected Area (20" x 20" zone; -2) (Real Cost: 3) plus Dispel Fire Powers 10d6, all Fire powers simultaneously (+2) (90 Active Points); Only Within Affected Area (20" x 20" zone; -2), 2 Charges (-1 1/2), OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) (Real Cost: 16) [2]
7 3) Pressurized Cabin: Life Support (Safe in Intense Cold; Safe in Intense Heat; Self-Contained Breathing) (14 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1) 0
Optional Equipment Ideas
13 1) Nitesun Searchlight: Sight Group Images Increased Size (4" radius; +1/2), +4 to PER Rolls, Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (44 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Only To Create Light (-1), Limited Range (50"; -1/4) 0
31 2) Winch: Stretching 20", Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (150 Active Points); OAF Bulky (-1 1/2), Cannot Do Damage (-1/2), Concentration, Must Concentrate throughout use of Constant Power (1/2 DCV; must hover to use; -1/2), Extra Time (Full Phase, To raise or lower; -1/2), Always Direct (-1/4), no Noncombat Stretching (-1/4), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 0
7 3) Big Loudspeakers: Hearing Group Images Increased Size (16" radius; +1), +/-3 to PER Rolls (28 Active Points); OIF Immobile (-1 1/2), Custom Modifier (only usable for voices and playing music; -1), Real Weapon (-1/4) Note: just the thing for livening up your entrance, Wagner seems to work best 3
Combat Equipment Options Note: Gotta have something to deal with the giant monsters and UFO's on occasion, these are carried on concealed mounts that take a phase to fold out or retract.
31 1) Twin M29 40mm Grenade Launchers: RKA 2 1/2d6 (vs. PD), Explosion (+1/2), 300 Charges (+1) (100 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Limited Arc Of Fire (180 degrees forward; Only on same horizontal level; -1/2), Extra Time (Full Phase, -1/2), Real Weapon (-1/4) Note: can be fitted with a variety of grenade types, HE, HEDP, tear gas, smoke [300]
27 2) M3 FFAR Rocket Pod: RKA 3d6 (vs. PD), 24 Charges (+1/4), Armor Piercing (+1/2), Explosion (+1/2) (101 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Limited Arc Of Fire (0 degrees forward; Only on same horizontal level; -1), Extra Time (Full Phase, -1/2), Real Weapon (-1/4) [24]
33 3) Air-To-Air Stinger (ATAS) Missiles: RKA 4d6 (vs. ED), Armor Piercing (+1/2), Explosion (+1/2), No Range Modifier (+1/2) (150 Active Points); 3 Charges (-1 1/4), OIF Bulky (-1), Limited Arc Of Fire (0 degrees forward; Only on same horizontal level; -1), Real Weapon (-1/4) Note: Replaces Hellfire Racks. [3]
24 4) Longbow Hellfire Missiles: Killing Attack - Ranged 2d6 (vs. PD), Indirect (Same origin, always fired away from attacker; can be arced over obstacles with a target lock; +1/4), Increased Maximum Range (1,675"; +1/4), Armor Piercing (+1/2), Explosion (+1/2) (75 Active Points); OAF Bulky (-1 1/2), 4 Charges (-1), Limited Arc Of Fire (60 degrees; Only on same horizontal level; -3/4), Custom Modifier (Requires a Laser Paint to fire; -1/2), Extra Time (Full Phase, -1/2), Real Weapon (-1/4) Note: (x4 number of items) [4]


Talents
1 Absolute Range Sense (3 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4)
1 Absolute Time Sense (3 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4)
1 Bump Of Direction (3 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4)
2 Eidetic Memory (5 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4)
2 Speed Reading (x10) (4 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4)


Skills
4 +2 with Flight
3 TF: Grav Vehicles/Hovercraft, Large Planes, Small Planes Note: Autopilot


Total Powers & Skill Cost: 329
Total Cost: 409

200+ Disadvantages
10 Physical Limitation: +4 to enemy perception rolls with radar and sight in WIGE Mode (Frequently, Slightly Impairing) Note: when in WIGE mode the craft throws off a huge rooster tail like a hydrofoil or worse, making it easier to spot
15 Distinctive Features: known supergroup vehicle (Not Concealable; Noticed and Recognizable; Detectable By Commonly-Used Senses)
10 Physical Limitation: Air Breathing Engines, limited service ceiling , and cant go underwater (Infrequently, Greatly Impairing)
10 Reputation: known supergroup vehicle, 11-
164 Experience Points

Total Disadvantage Points: 409

[SSgt Baloo]

The Royal Rangerplane

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/WestlandP21.png


In late 1939, with the invasion of Poland, Scotland Yard petitioned Parliament to draft at least some superhumans for home defense. Parliament agreed, establishing the Royal Rangers. A visiting pilot/adventurer from America was assisting the RAF with some experimental aircraft at that time and volunteered to construct a STOL transport for the group out of parts scavenged from crashed planes. The forward end was (mostly) a Westland Lysander while the back was from an Avro Lancaster (after considerable modification).

The resulting aircraft could cruise at 175 MPH and had excellent handling qualities. More importantly, it could seat up to ten normal-sized men (or British Lion and 6 other men). It was retired in 1943 after being damaged in an air raid. Various replacement vehicles were provided on an as-needed basis, but the Royal Rangers weren't to have their own aircraft again until the early '60s.

[SSgt Baloo]

In 1938 an avenger of the night appeared. Although he didn't seem to have superpowers, he did have an assortment of tools with which he fought crime. One of these tools was the Ratplane!


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/RatPlane1938.png

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/Payenp340TP3.png
The Payan 340T
Transport of Les Champions from 1936 to 1948

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/Batplane.png

Batplane II



In 1940 Batman contracted Tex Jones to construct a VTOL craft similar to (but much smaller than) Tex's personal hoverbus. The result was the Batplane II*, which Batman took delivery of in November of 1941.

The Batplane II is propelled by two ducted fans, each driven by a TJ-300 radial supercharged diesel 8-cylinder motor producing about 1,200 horsepower. Top speed is above 350 MPH, and maneuverability is superb due to the vectoring vanes in the fan housings. The thrust of the engines may be diverted through an angle from 95 degrees down and forward through 10 degrees up and back. The engine is tuned to allow a variety of fuels, from light fuel oil to 90-weight gear oil, but it runs best on a mixture of kerosene and heating oil. When trimmed for maximum efficiency (300 mph at 18,000 feet), the Batplane II consumes only 9 gallons per hour, making it more than twice as fuel-efficient than many automobiles of the day.

*Loosely based upon the XP-67 Bat.

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/FlyingGondola.png

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/xp50.png


The XP-50 was developed in 1940 by Tex Jones for production by Vultee Aviation. It is powered by an 8-cylinder radial diesel driving a ducted fan and is capable of over 400 MPH. Several examples were shipped to England just prior to the Battle for Britain, where they proved themselves admirably as they were nearly as maneuverable as the Spitfires and much faster at high altitudes. The Butterfly tail was designed to reduce drag while preserving pitch and yaw control. The tail surfaces are interchangeable, reducing the number of different parts required to be maintained for spares.

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/BiffBarf.png
(http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1648047&highlight=c-57d#post1648047)
Biff and Barf's Spaceship. (http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1648047&highlight=c-57d#post1648047)

[concord]

The Hippogriff

The Hippogriff is the smaller of two VTOL aircraft used by the Wardens. It seats 5, including the pilot. There is a navigational sensors cluster just aft of the cockpit and both a dorsal hatch and aft ramp for easy egress. The V-tail design was chosen specifically to facilitate egress/ingress by flying supers while the craft is in flight.

Here is the flying pig that I imagined :angel:with SSgt Baloo's words :thumbup:


http://www.angeva.com/images/boards/hippogriff-views.gif

[SSgt Baloo]

Very good! I like to think I'm not the only one posting to this thread. Now I have evidence! Huzzah!

[concord]

Very good! I like to think I'm not the only one posting to this thread. Now I have evidence! Huzzah!I would like to post more but that effort took me all week... I work way too slow... but I will keep posting as I complete things...

I also would like to say I love the pulp and golden age stuff you have been posting... rep would be coming your way except for the "you must spread..."

So, thanks for your efforts... maybe some others will become inspired and join the vehicle posting parade, too... :thumbup:

[Mark Rand]

Assuming I can get things in motion, the superhero team I'm going to GM will use the Liandra. It looks like a Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird and has the stats of the Champions V-Jet.

[Trebuchet]

Modified as an experimental special-ops vehicle by the Japanese government, the Sea Raptor is capable of both supersonic flight and submersed operations.

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/Alien1.png


This vessel was encountered by the League of Democracy Defenders in 1998. The vessel is armed with three beam weapons that can produce an estimated 100 megawatts of power, focussed in a beam about 3 meters in diameter. It is believed that this vessel may have been sent by the PahRhynthian Empire, as its configuration is quite similar to other vessels which have definitely been identified as such.

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Space-Stuff/Friendship.gif
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Space-Stuff/Friendship1.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Space-Stuff/Friendship4.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Space-Stuff/Friendship2.jpghttp://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Space-Stuff/Friendship3.jpg


This is an old Starship Design from the Alpha Quadrant Institute of Technology (http://www.geocities.com/cyrano_jones.geo/index.htm), the Friendship (http://www.geocities.com/cyrano_jones.geo/Friendship.htm). It is supposed to have been a competing design for the contract that ultimately resulted in the TOS Enterprise and its like.

[Beast]

well Mk 2 lasted 6 game sessions and is now being retired as it is getting a bit small for the team(and a refigureing of points for the base got us a base ,a vehicle, computer and options for 1 more vehicle at a starting base of 210 points each that and I'm going on hiatus to act and sing at the norcal ren faire)
in it's history it had only been damaged once for 2 body
had Foxbat thrown in the secure room in his boxer briefs and mask(next time check the mask)only to have him escape and use the teleport system to move it 100km as a cover for his escape
the DoJ also was respnsible for taking out 3 major villians and the squishing of thousands of zombies and bombing them from orbit in that thousand years in the future nightmare we got dumped in and barely made it home from

Now to introduce

The Dumpster of Justice mk3
the new DoJ is made from 2x48'cargo containers welded together then the liberal applecation of armor still to rival any battleshp
but since my character Wraith will be gone for the next 12 weeks the DoJ would have no powersource to move it(this was so nobody could steal it or it's tires the batmobile can't say that)
so it now can fly and t-port itself
it looks like and flys like a brick
it still has all proper emergency vehicle permits and can now act as a road block across up to 4 lanes of highway

also the secure room is air tight and had a wheel lock put on it that can be tightened to a 55 str and can only be operated from the out side
the handle on the inside will break off if more than 15 str is applied
and there is a weeks worth of food for 10 inside the secure room(it needs to be replaced every week or it goes bad)so hope the team does not forget anybody place there in

you may wonder why there is no affects desolid or teleport hardening
that is because Wraith who sat down and designed it did not want to be locked in it should she be captured and thrown in the secure room

you may aslo wonder why most everything is on 1 side except for the 3 rows of removable seats
this is so we can load stuff into it

Normally Wraith is the pilot and has no need for a view screen since she can see right through the DoJ
but her team mates whined that if it could be flown now they would need to be able to see
she gave it some windows with curtians


Val Char Cost Notes
9 Size 45 Length 8", Width 4", Area 32" Mass 51.2 ton KB -9
55 STR 0 HTH Damage 11d6 END [5]
2 DEX -24 OCV 1 DCV -5
19 BODY 0
24 DEF 66
2 SPD 8 Phases: 6, 12
Total Characteristic Cost: 83

Movement:
Flight: 10"/640"
Swimming: 2"/4"
Teleportation: 1"/2"

Abilities & Equipment
Cost Power END
20 Mind Link , human class of minds, Specific Group of Minds, Any distance, No LOS Needed, Number of Minds (x16), Psychic Bond (50 Active Points); OIF Immobile Expendable (Easy to obtain new Focus; -1 ½)
21 Mental Defense (19 points total), Usable Simultaneously (up to 16 people at once; +1 ¼) (43 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1)
21 Power Defense (19 points), Usable Simultaneously (up to 16 people at once; +1 ¼) (43 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1)
10 LS (Eating: Character only has to eat once per week; Safe Environment: Zero Gravity; Safe in High Pressure; Safe in High Radiation; Safe in Intense Cold; Safe in Intense Heat; Safe in Low Pressure/Vacuum; Self-Contained Breathing) (21 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1)
58 Teleportation 1", x1,024 Increased Mass, Usable By Other (+¼), MegaScale (1" = 100 km; +¾), Can Be Scaled Down 1" = 1km (+¼) (117 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1)
22 Flight 10", x64 Noncombat (45 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1)
7 Healing 1 BODY, any [special effect] power one at a time (+¼), Reduced Endurance (0 END; +½), Persistent (+½) (22 Active Points); Extra Time (Regeneration-Only) 1 Turn (Post-Segment 12) (-1 ¼), IIF Bulky (nano bots; -¾)

Perks
2 Fringe Benefit: Emergency Services Vehicle

Talents
3 Absolute Range Sense
3 Absolute Time Sense
5 Eidetic Memory
25 Universal Translator 16-

Total Abilities & Equipment Cost: 197
Total Vehicle Cost: 280

Value Disadvantages
20 Hunted: UNTIL 14- (As Pow, NCI, PC has a Public ID or is otherwise very easy to find, Watching)
25 Hunted: Viper 8- (Mo Pow, NCI, PC has a Public ID or is otherwise very easy to find, Harshly Punish)
10 Distinctive Features: Dumpster of Justice (Concealable; Noticed and Recognizable; Detectable By Commonly-Used Senses)
15 Reputation: graffiti target, 14-

Total Disadvantage Points: 70
Total Cost: 210/5 = 42

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/CaproniLampo.png



The Caproni Lampo was a development of the Caproni-Campini (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campini_Caproni_CC.2). It was smaller, lighter, and more significantly, faster and more maneuverable. The first prototype had a conventional tail with both a vertical stabilizer and rudder and a horizontal stabilizer and elevator. When the XP-50 began operations in the Battle for Britain, the designers decided that their plane would have a butterfly tail also. This delayed production and the Lampo didn't enter production until after the liberation of Italy.

The lampo was capable of cruising at 375 MPH. It was highly maneuverable and was more than a match for any propeller-driven plane with the possible exception of the FW-190, which had a slight edge in speed.

One hundred and five examples of the Lampo were produced, and served the Free Italian forces through the rest of the war and into the early fifties, by which time they had been relagated to trainer status.

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/YP54A.png



The YP-54A Falcon was developed by as a follow-on craft to replace the P-50. While fast and maneuverable, the P-50 lacked the range necessary to fly escort missions over Europe from bases in England or almost any mission in the Pacific theater other than point defence.

Having been allowed to examine a Whittle gas turbine engine in England during the Blitz, Tex Jones designed the Falcon with a turbine-jet of his own design. He retained some features of his ducted fan design, and the oversized first impeller at the front of the motor throws almost 70% of its airflow around the engine rather than through it. This helps keep it from overheating, and provides additional thrust at lower velocities than pure jets allow. The airframe itself looks quite similar to the P-50, but the resemblence is superficial.

The roomy cockpit reduces pilot fatigue, as does the vibration-free (or nearly so) Jet-Fan engine. Instrumentation for the new, simpler powerplant is much less complex, reducing the pilot's workload, and making it less likely that a pilot would miss an enemy aircraft because he was still scanning his instruments. Pilot visibility is also aided by a much higher seat position than in the P-50.

The wing is an unusual "swept" design. It appears that sweeping the wing to some degree delays the onset of compressibility and subsequent loss of control. The YP-54A is capable of impressive speeds of up to 600 MPH in level flight, and is being tested for maximum safe speed in a dive. To prevent overspeeding in a dive, the plane's flaps have been made more robust and serve as speed brakes. Cruise speed is around 300 MPH, while stall speed is about 150.

The Falcon is expected to enter series production by late 1943.

[shadowcat1313]

I posted the standard and fighter variants of the SR-71 in the other genres thread, how much difference is there in the transport variant you posted?

[SSgt Baloo]

I posted the standard and fighter variants of the SR-71 in the other genres thread, how much difference is there in the transport variant you posted?

(Emphasis added.) Please specify which other genres thread please. I'd like to have a look. ;)

Mine is shorter, wider, VTOL capable, and has a boarding ramp (which implies a lot more internal space for crew and cargo). I really just did a slice-n-dice of an SR-71 three-view. Some of my later stuff is a complete fabrication, however, but based on existing (or proposed) vehicles. The rest is pure brain vapor. Make what you will of it. :doi:

[Manic Typist]

SSgt Baloo- please tell me I'm not the first to notice the rather... anatomical... suggestiveness of that spaceship you've got there.

[shadowcat1313]

sorry, its under the YF-12 Stealth Fighter, the standard SR-71 is in the one of the vehicles books. the fighter adds a better radar and 4 missiles, and loses most of the recon electronics

[SSgt Baloo]

SSgt Baloo- please tell me I'm not the first to notice the rather... anatomical... suggestiveness of that spaceship you've got there.

Yes. Yes you are. :eg:

[Manic Typist]

Well.... just goes to show...

What, I don't know.

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/GalacticClipper.png
The Defenders' Galactic Clipper

The Defenders of Earth (Universe XZ-21) use this vehicle to travel wherever their missions take them. While small, this vehicle is capable of flight at high subsonic speeds within a planetary atmosphere, and much, much faster once above the majority of the atmosphere. The usual flight path of this vessel includes a very steep and fast climbout to over 100 km altitude, then a quick trip through the exo-atmosphere to somewhere above the destination, followed by a steep descent to the landing point. Recently, courtesy of Saucer-Man, the Galactic Clipper has been equipped with a Carson Bridge Generator capable of creating a subspace fold and enabling the ship to travel at apparently superluminal speeds.

[proditor]

This really is an awesome thread. :D

I have a bunch of wacky vehicles over here: http://home.comcast.net/~champsstuff/

Feel free to grab what you like and go nuts! :thumbup:

[Myrlyn]

This really is an awesome thread. :D

I have a bunch of wacky vehicles over here: http://home.comcast.net/~champsstuff/

Feel free to grab what you like and go nuts! :thumbup:

Proditor: Nice collection of vehicles! I particularly liked some of the interesting WWII planes you had found. I wanted to check out your collection of space vehicle images as well, but the link came up as a 404 error. Let me know when you get it fixed! :thumbup:

Keith

[SSgt Baloo]

Even in the '30s, superguys needed super transportation...


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/Multicar.png
The Multi-Car


In 1936, Doctor "Mad" Maddington designed a fantastic vehicle capable of travelling along the ground, in the air, under the sea, and even through space. After the Justice Team of America brought Dr. Maddington to justice, they confiscated this engine of destruction and began using it (only) for good. Eventually, Dr. Maddington graduated from Professor Fate's academy for the Criminally Insane and now works to assist the JTA in their neverending battle for Truth, Justice, and the American Way (with apologies to George Reeves :D).

The Multi-Car is equipped with pulse-jet (rocket) tubes just behind the main cabin for propulsion in air and space. The rear wheel steers and the front wheels provide propulsion in ground mode, while an electrically-driven pump propels the Multicar underwater at remarkable speeds. The Multi-Car is armed with a 75mm cannon which can fire signal flares or other ordnance when required. Flash Gordon would be jealous.

[SSgt Baloo]

RC schoolbus transforms & flies! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUDuPWRiRug&feature=user)

[SSgt Baloo]

Nissan's New Not-For-Sale! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7f1feSjDks&feature=related)

[SSgt Baloo]

This is the Erne (a type of sea eagle), it is the vehicle that the Wardens use to get from Alcatraz island to the mainland and the vehicle picture that was its inspiration.

http://www.angeva.com/images/boards/erne2.gifhttp://www.angeva.com/images/boards/wig.gif

When designing/mapping a vehicle, I usually only work on half of it. Then when that half is completed I mirror it for the opposite half.


Found it! (or something very much like it!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSeZ1eQzDvI&NR=1)

[SSgt Baloo]

The Justice Bunch's* Star Cruiser:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/StarCruiser.png


* A little help please? I'm running out of cool supergroup names (assuming I haven't already) and I'll draw you a super-transport so your (approximate) specifications if I use your suggested name.

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/B377_3v.png
Super-Stratocruiser

During the 'forties, the Patriot Squad was given a crashed Boeing Stratocruiser and given free reign to restore and modify it to their purposes. They essentially tore it apart and remanufactured it, ending up with a much larger plane (the Stratocruiser's fuselage is 10' in diameter while the Super-Stratocruiser's diameter is 13' 8") with more powerful engines that could run on diesel oil or kerosene (though at a slight altitude and speed penalty when using kerosene).

Post-war, the Patriot Squad was provided with a refurbished Boeing 307 Stratocruiser. Boeing dismantled, then rebuilt the Super-Stratocruiser to examine and duplicate every part for production as the Boeing 377 Super-Stratocruiser. After production began on the Super-Stratocruiser, Boeing returned the old plane to the Patriot Squad, and began paying royalties on the design. Boeing continued to provide the Patriot Squad with aircraft through 1968, when most of them retired. The Super-Stratocruiser remained in production for many years, though once Boeing introduced its 707 Jetliner, the Super-Stratocruiser was largely utilized as a cargo plane. The fact that it could run on Jet Fuel was something of an advantage, as it was considerably less expensive per pound than the Avgas other piston aircraft used.

[Air Pirate]

Beautiful thread SSgt.

A lot of your vehicles remind me of this website: http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/

I can always find inspiration here. I especially like concept vehicles section.

.

[Singingcrow]

I like the V-22 Osprey for a modern day feel to Champions. I forgot to mention the reason I liked this vehicle was that is plenty of room to carry personnel & equipment. I.E. containment set-ups for super villains that you don't want to hand over to diabolical scientists in the employ of the government.

[shadowcat1313]

The V-22 is a nice aircraft on paper but its accident rate is terrible, along with it being hard to pilot, and then theres the cost overruns... no thanks, if a group of my players wanted one for transport... but I am going to give it real stats and faults. its just not a great aircraft

[Vulcan]

It's not as bad as you think.

Sure, the experemental and developmental models had some pretty unplesant accidents, and some handling issues. But that is only to be expected when developing a whole new type of aircraft. How many early aircraft crashed in the first 20 years of powered flight? Thousands? How many helicopters crashed in the 30's as they were being developed. Hundreds, certainly. Loosing a dozen test aircraft (most due to mechanical failure in these same experemental models) ain't that bad.

Look at it this way: There were 2 XB-70's built. One crashed. That was in a 2-year flight-test program (as I recall). The V-22's have been in development for nearly 20 years while they iron out kinks in the systems. The accident rate over that entire period isn't all that bad.

It's become a matter of bad press more than anything else. Like when those F-117's crashed in the late 80's just after the Nighthawks went public. Suddenly "the whole program was riddled with flaws and bound to fail because the basic airframe was aerodynamically unsound." At least, that's what the press said at the time.

I not the F-117 still serves today, and will only be phased out of service as the USAF version of the Joint Strike Fighter comes online.

The current V-22 is a viable military aircraft, which means it meets a reasonable level of ruggedness, reliability, and simplicity.

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/B407.png
Boeing 507 (Derived from the Boeing 377 shown above)

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/SuperBus.png
The Super-Bus


The Superguys' transport isn't much to look at until you see what it can do. Cobbled together from a salvaged Greyhound Scenicruiser and a crashed UFO, the Superbus is cabable of operations on land, in the sea (to depths of up to 12,000 feet or more), in the air (supersonic VTOL) and in space (hyperdrive).

The Superbus serves as a mobile base for the Superguys, as well as providing rapid transportation.

[proditor]

It's not as bad as you think.

Sure, the experemental and developmental models had some pretty unplesant accidents, and some handling issues. But that is only to be expected when developing a whole new type of aircraft. How many early aircraft crashed in the first 20 years of powered flight? Thousands? How many helicopters crashed in the 30's as they were being developed. Hundreds, certainly. Loosing a dozen test aircraft (most due to mechanical failure in these same experemental models) ain't that bad.

Look at it this way: There were 2 XB-70's built. One crashed. That was in a 2-year flight-test program (as I recall). The V-22's have been in development for nearly 20 years while they iron out kinks in the systems. The accident rate over that entire period isn't all that bad.

It's become a matter of bad press more than anything else. Like when those F-117's crashed in the late 80's just after the Nighthawks went public. Suddenly "the whole program was riddled with flaws and bound to fail because the basic airframe was aerodynamically unsound." At least, that's what the press said at the time.

I not the F-117 still serves today, and will only be phased out of service as the USAF version of the Joint Strike Fighter comes online.

The current V-22 is a viable military aircraft, which means it meets a reasonable level of ruggedness, reliability, and simplicity.

I agree with everything you said, except the bit about the Nighthawk still being in service.

It was retired earlier this year. You can see some video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K20aAJ5Nufs&feature=related

[Vulcan]

My bad; I appear to be behind on my military news.

[proditor]

My bad; I appear to be behind on my military news.

No worries, it was ahead of schedule. In fact, it was sort of abrupt. The rumor mill was that they did it to close a budget shortfall, and that the Raptor, even with it's much lighter bombload of mini-bombs, was such a quantum leap forward in stealth, it made the 117 obsolete. I think that last bit might be a bit of wishful thinking until the JSF comes online.

[Vulcan]

I agree that it was premature, there are only 2 Raptors in service right now (that I know of). Of course, in exercises they routinely wax 8 Eagles Air-to-air...

Not sure how far they go to repalcing the capacity lost with the Nighthawks. Sure, you could use Spirits, but at a half-billion dollars apiece I don't see them being risked for 'routine' stuff very often.

[Egyptoid]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/Batplane.png

good gosh man, this design would suck up every screw and pebble off the tarmac !

[SSgt Baloo]

good gosh man, this design would suck up every screw and pebble off the tarmac !

It's a superplane. Sucking up and spitting out debris only happens when it advances the plot. ;)

[concord]

This is the Anhinga (a type of diving bird). It is the Wardens' submersible.

http://www.angeva.com/images/boards/anhinga.gif

[wcw43921]

This is the Anhinga (a type of diving bird). It is the Wardens' submersible.


Nifty design--reminds me of Gerry Anderson's Supercar. Does it fly as well?

[concord]

Nifty design--reminds me of Gerry Anderson's Supercar. Does it fly as well?Nope... it just uses it "wings" and "flaps" to maneuver underwater... It's ballast tanks are very small and are used for the most part to maintain neutral buoyancy... If all ballast is blown, the craft will float...

But hey, it is a super team's vehicle... if someone wants to make it fly then more power to 'em :thumbup:

[shadowcat1313]

heres an idea, what about giving it actual flapping wings, similar to the way a manta ray moves... then you could easily justify giving it limited flight capability too. you end up with what amounts to semi-amphibious ornithopter


what else can you tell me about the design, I will take a stab at building it
as much detail and fluff as you can will help a lot.

[concord]

Sorry, I am not much of a 'gearhead' :)

I don't have any real details... beyond the little blurb in my last post, I haven't put any work into the Anhinga... it has not been close to being in a combat, so I never really stat'ed it out... in the campaign, the Wardens have used it mostly to come and go without anyone being able to observe them...

I have been fascinated with underwater 'flying' vehicles since watching the Sealab 2020 cartoon when I was a kid and came back to the idea after watching some pop science shows on television... the ability for a vehicle to operate underwater using 'aerodynamic' principles rather than ballast tanks was what inspired the Anhinga...

Using my Google-Fu, I came across some concept art from the guy in this interview http://nexus404.com/Blog/2007/03/28/concept-submersibles/ and used it as the basis for the 'floorplan' of the vehicle.

Most of the Wardens vehicles I imagine as just a couple of steps beyond current vehicles... not really 'super' vehicles other than super materials, super electronics and miniaturized power systems with the same or more output than their modern larger sized counterparts... mix in a little 'super' physics and the vehicles become super. :)

[SSgt Baloo]

Cool! Link: DARPA seeks submersible aircraft concepts (http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2008/10/08/317172/picture-darpa-seeks-submersible-aircraft-concepts.html)

Now every superhero (and villain) will want one!

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Smileys/SSgtBaloo.png

[SSgt Baloo]

More neat stuff, suitable for near-future Sci-Fi settings:

The Rhombus (http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/rombus.htm) VTOVL SSTO space vehicle.

The Ithacus (http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/ithacus.htm) VTOVL transorbital assault transport.

[DusterBoy]

Way cool finds, Staff. The ROMBUS looks a damn sight more practical than the POS shuttle we actually got lumbered with.

I think I may have seen a pic of the Ithacus before, at school.

To quote Johnny Rotten: "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" :mad:

[Kraven Kor]

This is a starship I made deckplans and a character sheet for some years back. Surprised the link still works TBH:

http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20987&d=1143133596

[Beast]

except that you will require more than twice the fuel that the shuttle does and
we have experience with unpowered reentry
nobody has tried a powered decent from orbit yet


Way cool finds, Staff. The ROMBUS looks a damn sight more practical than the POS shuttle we actually got lumbered with.

I think I may have seen a pic of the Ithacus before, at school.

To quote Johnny Rotten: "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" :mad:

[Egyptoid]

http://aerosml.com/ml866/img/top_model_left.jpg

AEROSML (http://aerosml.com/ml866/story.html)

[DusterBoy]

except that you will require more than twice the fuel that the shuttle does and
we have experience with unpowered reentry
nobody has tried a powered decent from orbit yet

Yeah, I kinda forgot that part. Yeesh.

:facepalm: :mad:

Did anybody else notice that in "Superman Return" the experimental space shuttle they used was essentially the Delta Clipper mated to a specially modified 747, which is the basic system (shuttle piggybacking on aircraft) NASA originally wanted to use, before NIxon and the military got involved. I believe that the USAF (amongst others) was, or still is, testing a similar system called Black Horse.

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/XP-52.png
Tex Jones' TJ-309 (XP-52 prototype)


Just after Pearl Harbor, the War Department issued a requirement for an aircraft that was faster and more maneuverable than the Japanese "Zero". The specifications as written were drawn up before any solid intelligence could be gathered on the Zero to gauge it's real-world performance, and were therefore based on guesses and overestimations.

While several manufacturers offered studies indicating when they might be able to produce such a weapons system, Tex Jones sat down and built one. Less than six months after the requirement had been issued, the TJ-309 was undergoing flight testing under Tex Jones' supervision. While Tex Jones' manufacturing capability was limited, he offered to licence the design to any company willing to produce it.

Curtiss turned down the offer as they were certain their new development based on the P-40 would prove easier to produce for only slightly less performance. Tex Jones shopped the TJ-309 around until finally Lockheed Aircraft decided to give it a go. They offered Tex Jones an exclusive contract, but he declined as he was friends with Kelly Johnson and didn't want to risk harming their friendship.

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/XP-52A.png

The USAAF liked the performance of the YP-52, but requested some changes to ease maintenance and ground handling. The US. Navy preferred the taller landing gear of the XP-52 but preferred the "High Tail" configuration. The Navy Department ordered 20 [Somebody suggest a Naval Designation to insert here], which combined these features, deleted the "bumper" tailwheel and replaced it with a retractable tailhook.

[Egyptoid]

waaah! nobody liked my MasterMind Dirigible :(


http://aerosml.com/ml866/img/top_model_lef
t.jpg

AEROSML (http://aerosml.com/ml866/story.html)

:confused:

[Beast]

Dirigibles really only work in a pulp setting otherwise they are t easy to destroy



waaah! nobody liked my MasterMind Dirigible :(



:confused:

[SSgt Baloo]

I've always said cars are different in Hollywood
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COK8aqXs8h0&feature=related)

[SSgt Baloo]

I finally made good on that "in-progress" Batplane I posted at the beginning of this thread:


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/Batplane-1.png


Yet another interstellar-capable flying bus. Of course this one's more streamlined than the last one. :D


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/VTOLICT.png

[Egyptoid]

Hey Baloo!

have you ever seen a full work-up of a B-52 Stratofortress in Champions Vehicle stats?
:confused:

okay, found it in the old vehicle book. sigh. now I have to type it in...

[proditor]

I found a fun art site that I thought the good Staff Sergeant and others might get a kick out of for some wacky aircraft.

http://www.flitzerart.com/aircraft.htm

[SSgt Baloo]

I found a fun art site that I thought the good Staff Sergeant and others might get a kick out of for some wacky aircraft.

http://www.flitzerart.com/aircraft.htm


Cool!! Repped!

[proditor]

I forgot, I had one more. Try this on for size. :D

Lockheed CL-1201-1
Span: 1,120 feet
Gross weight: 11.85 million pounds
Endurance: 41 days:
Reactor output: 1830 megawatts
Crew: 845
Tactical fighters carried: 24
Lift engines for VTOL: 182

I thought I was ambitious when I started making a model of an Airborne Aircraft Carrier. In typical Lockheed-Martin style, they ratcheted the crazy up to a whole new level and made designs for a V/TOL AAC!!! Stick that in your patch and smoke it Nick Fury! :thumbup:

[RedneckJedi]

These are some great looking vehicles but my team are using a beat up A-Team van :o

[SuperJerry]

These are some great looking vehicles but my team are using a beat up A-Team van :o

Mr T's not gonna be happy about you borrowing his van one bit. He won't care that in the least that Face and Murdock "sold" it to you!

[RedneckJedi]

We upgraded from a Mystery Machine!

[Kenn]

http://www.rcuhero.net/inventions/scarletship.htm

Specialised aircraft used by one of the Champions of Justice's gadgeteers, which for some time also doubled as a team transport.

[SSgt Baloo]

These are some great looking vehicles but my team are using a beat up A-Team van :o

Then maybe it's time to upgrade (http://www.herogames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1683627&postcount=70). :D

[RedneckJedi]

Hmm... That would be good for our brick. Now how about something for the rest of the team? :D

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/TJ-1.png


This is pretty close to what Tex Jones (the Character) flew during the first couple of years of his adventuring career. The powerplants were an extremely compact form of internal combustion motor driving ducted fans. The flaps were an "Upper Surface Blown" system whereby the exhaust from the fans was directed over the top of the wings, and the flaps would direct the airflow in such a way as to convert a lot of the engine power into lift.

A modern example of this type was the XC-16 (of which I will post pictures when I can find some. No luck thus far,:p)

[SSgt Baloo]

Found it! It wasn't the YC-16 I was looking for but the YC-14! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YC-14)


http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/yc-14-1_072.jpg

[SSgt Baloo]

Made a new one. This one's a slight modification of the P-80 Shooting Star.


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/P-80TJ.png

[shadowcat1313]

standard P-80 Shooting Star stats

http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptationsvehicles/militaryair/postwar/usa/lockheed_p-80_shooting_star.HTML

[SSgt Baloo]

In 1946, The Batman went modern:


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/Batplane2.png

[SSgt Baloo]

I updated the P-80 WhIf above to incorporate (approximately) 15 degrees of wing sweep.


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/P-80F.png

[SSgt Baloo]

Two more jet=powered mustangs, a single and a twin:


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/JetstangIII.png

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/JetstangII.png

[SSgt Baloo]

Another Tex Jones superplane, a 500-MPH amphibian:


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/TJ-7.png

The glazed dome over the wing center section is a combination navigator's "office" and skylighted lounge. Movable sections of the glazing provide in-flight ingress/egress for the flying supers of the group.

[SSgt Baloo]

One more today:


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/GhostBat.png


I always thought the XP-67 would make a nice-looking jet. The outer wing segments (outboard of the engine nacelles) always struck me as looking smallish, so I made them bigger and gave them the same leading edge as the Batplane (above) and large leading edge extensible slats.

[SSgt Baloo]

Inspired by the Nazi Flying Saucer thread, I decided to crank out my own WWII-era flying disk. This one's powered by two jet engines which provide some of the thrust but also power the [insert crazy-sounding antigravity device name here]. I usually do most of the work with MS Paint, then do the "heavy lifting" with GIMP (http://www.gimp.org/).

Here's the base version if anyone wants to try adding appropriate insignia.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/NaziSaucer1.png

Here's the "Camouflage" version.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/colorNaziSaucer1.png

The camouflage I used:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/GermanCamoII.png

I used an aerial view of German forest to make the camo by blurring it several different ways then "posterizing" it. I have no clear idea how I did this, so if anyone is familiar with GIMP any advice is welcome.

[A_Pail_Rider]

Really cool pix! :thumbup:

I'm gonna steal borrow some of the ideas. :winkgrin:

[SSgt Baloo]

Here's a couple more:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/Notjager1.png

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/Notjager2.png

The Nazi Notjäger (Emergency "Hunter") program was a response to the possibility that the Allies might field large numbers of fast jets and ducted fan aircraft should the Americans enter the war. Several proposals were submitted for approval, with two reaching limited production. The high priority given to the development and production of jet-propelled aircraft by all sides in the war is thought to have originated with Tex Jone's advanced projects and their increasing acceptance in the otherwise conservative American aviation industry.

[SSgt Baloo]

The same two planes above, colorized.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/ColorNotjager1.png

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/ColorNotjager2.png

[SSgt Baloo]

Three more:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/YP-44.png

The above plane is a "rewrite" of the pencil-and-paper AE-24 (KP-44 Gladius, XA-37 Mace). The one below is the Jet-propelled version I was going to draw, but never did till now.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/P-64.png

The AE-29 is a fictional competitor to Howard Hughes' H-4 flying boat (http://www.boeing.com/history/boeing/h4_hercules.html). Originally, I started out with a stretched Martin Mars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JRM_Mars) with made-up dimensions, but when I calculated wingspan at over 640 feet I scaled back to about half that big, and still wound up inches larger than the H-4 in every dimension except height. It's powered by eight ducted fans in the wing roots.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/ae29.png

[SSgt Baloo]

I changed the drawings of the Erne, Hippogriff and Pegasus on this page (http://www.herogames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1644308&postcount=16).

The originals had shrunk when I uploaded them to photobucket (a difficulty I subsequently fixed) and I had misplaced the originals, so I just re-drew them.

[concord]

I changed the drawings of the Erne, Hippogriff and Pegasus on this page (http://www.herogames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1644308&postcount=16).

The originals had shrunk when I uploaded them to photobucket (a difficulty I subsequently fixed) and I had misplaced the originals, so I just re-drew them.Thanks again for all of your work on these!!!

[concord]

Taking SSgt Baloo's new design from here http://www.herogames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1644513&postcount=17

and combining it with the flying pig that I had imagined here http://www.herogames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1652946&postcount=40

has yielded the final design for the Hippogriff...


http://www.angeva.com/images/boards/hippogriff-views-2.gif

[DevilInSatin]

I'll take one of each, please.

Have them delivered to my lair headquarters, please.


;)

[SSgt Baloo]

Here's another:


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/F-100Delta.png
F-100 Delta Wing

[SSgt Baloo]

On December 7, 1941, an ad hoc team of superheroes united to defend the U.S. from Fifth Columnists, axis agents, and the like. The Team inventor created the Aquaplane, an Amphibious air vehicle capable of operating underwater for several hours at a time.

Propulsion is provided by Magnetohydrodynamic coils buried in the wing, powered by a compact but powerful Van de Graaff generator.


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/AquaPlane.png

[SSgt Baloo]

Youtube clip:

Wingless Wonders (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=i8y5suPs1uE&feature=related)

[SSgt Baloo]

When North American began designing the P-86 they developed a turboprop-powered version as well. The thinking at the time was that a turboprop would generate better acceleration than a pure jet and also have a greater combat radius.


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/P-86.png

[concord]

Taking SSgt Baloo's new design from here http://www.herogames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1644513&postcount=25

and a little fiddling on my part has yielded the final design for the Pegasus...


http://www.angeva.com/images/boards/pegasus-views.gif

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/P-40-J.png

XP-40-J


The XP-40-J was constructed as a quick-and-dirty way to test Tex Jones' jet turbine engine. His claims of superior performance over propeller-driven planes prompted Curtiss to offer him an airframe for modification. The resulting aircraft had superior speed and ceiling to the P-40 it was made from, but had slightly less range, though this was eventually offset by fitting external fuel tanks. The ability to group all six machine guns in the nose was another benefit of this configuration.

The pilot's position was moved forward to partially offset the rearward weight bias caused by replacing a nose-mounted engine with an (admittedly lighter) tail-mounted installation. The horizontal stabilizer was raised to keep it from being masked by the wing at high angles of attack, especially on the take-off roll. The tailpipe was also angled downwards by 4 degrees to help offset the aircraft's tendency to keep it's tail "planted" during takeoff rolls.

The XP-40-J was successful enough that it entered production as the P-46. The external tanks were moved to the wingtips, freeing the wing stations for ordnance.

[SSgt Baloo]

In case anyone's interested, the P-40-J was inspired by an Argentinian plane: the Pulqui I (http://www.choiquehobbies.com.ar/revista03/pulqui/pulquie.htm).

Video (en Español): Pulqui I & II (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTVALs0Xt6Y)

More video (in Spanish) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28rxSAle23Q)

[wcw43921]

Two links about the FALX Hybrid-Electric Tilt-Rotor Personal Aircraft--next decade's technology for you millionaire crimefighters or cyberpunkers--

http://www.gizmag.com/falx-to-debut-hybrid-electric-tilt-rotor-aircraft-with-inbuilt-solar-c/9234/

http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-amp-space/article/2008-10/personal-tilt-rotor

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/P-49.png


In 1939, Lockheed submitted a proposal to put a jet engine in a modified P-38 airframe. The proposed fighter was intended to be a photo reconnaissance aircraft with a provisional designation of XF-7, but during trials the great speed and improved maneuverability over the P-38 prompted the army to order armed versions as the YP-49. The rearward weight bias induced by eliminating the forward-mounted engines was compensated for by several different strategies, including adding an additional forward-firing cannon, changing the static angle of attack of the wing, and using a different airfoil cross-section to provide the desired rearward shift in center-of-lift. The horizontal stabilizer was raised to keep it out of the jet efflux from the engine, and an ejector seat was installed to help the pilot clear it should he need to bail out.

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/Skyfox.png

There's a real plane called the Skyfox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Skyfox), but I couldn't find drawings of it anywhere so I tried my best to approximate one from the pictures and from cribbing dimensions from an F-80 Shooting Star.

[SSgt Baloo]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/P-49A.png


When the P-49 began operational service, there were complaints about instability which made the plane sensitive in certain flight attitudes and with certain loadouts. To correct this problem, the Lockheed engineers extended the nose by two feet, repositioning as much equipment forward as possible. This not only corrected the instability but added enough fuel tankage to allow nearly double the previous combat radius. This new version was dubbed the P-49A.

A Trainer version was developed To help transition pilots into the new "rocketplane", the P-49B, below. The rear canopy was hinged at the rear and seasted the instructor pilot. The front canopy was hinged on the right and was for the trainee pilot. Apart from a slightly lesser fuel capacity, the P-49B was as capable as the P-49A.


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/P-49B.png

[SSgt Baloo]

In 1943, Republic Aviation recieved an order for a jet-propelled aircraft based upon the P-47. The P-47 airframe was ideal for such a conversion, as it's engine, supercharger, and ducting, once removed, freed up considerable space for a (relatively) straight-through installation.


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/Republic450.png


The Republic 450 was a proof-of-concept design intended only to test the proposed engine, ducting, and tailpipe configuration. The Airframe used was an early P-47B that had been used as a chase plane for flight tests. Modifications made apart from engine and ductwork included raising the horizontal stabilizer from the fuselage to partway up the vertical stabilizer.


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Superstuff/Super%20Transport/P-72.png


The Production Aircraft was designated P-72. Based upon the P-47D (block 25) the new aircraft was designed from the outset to be easily converted from pure fighter to tandem-seat trainer. The bubble canopy extended over an auxiliary fuel tank behind the pilot. The auxiliary tank could be removed and replaced by an instructor-pilot's position with an extra set of controls and minimal instrumentation, a process which could be completed in an afternoon, given the sufficient parts and labor.

[SSgt Baloo]

Cool multi-terrain vehicle from Russia: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afJ18eJeNgU)

[SSgt Baloo]

I finally decided what Tex Jones' (1938) secret engine (pre-turbine) was: the Nutating Engine (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_nutating_engine).

[wcw43921]

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/01/Flying%20Commuter%20Aircraft%20GI.jpg

According to the link--

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/01/sky-commuter-aircraft-prototype-flies-high-shatters-dreams.html

--this is the only one in existence. Perhaps it didn't work that well in real life, but superhero worlds are full of technologies that wouldn't pass real-world muster. Heck, trick it out a little with a pair of jet engines, and it could stand in for the Jetcar (HERO System Vehicle Sourcebook, pg. 148).

[wcw43921]

The Smallest Planes Ever (http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/design/q0214.shtml)

Mostly for the pulp era, but you never know when you need a quick getaway. I especially like the Stits Junior--it could be the plane of a "Little Rascal" adventure-kid character.

Concept Cars From The 50s To The 70s (http://weburbanist.com/2009/04/16/20-outstanding-outrageous-concept-cars-from-the-golden-age/)

The article says "Golden Age" but a lot of these could definitely be Silver Age or modern age super-vehicles. Check out the Ferrari at the bottom of the page--it's like a better-looking version of the James Bond submarine car from The Spy Who Loved Me.

[fbdaury]

What, no Herkimer Battle Jitney?

http://www.imcdb.org/images/044/764.jpg

Or the '78 Corvette stretch limo?

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/9496/amc005026nm6.jpg (http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/9496/amc005026nm6.jpg)

[wcw43921]

I'd definitely ride into battle aboard a Herkimer Battle Jitney. The look on the villains' faces when all the weapons are pulled out of their hands by the super-electromagnet is beyond priceless.

As for the stretch limo--unless your hero team has two dozen or more members, I don't see it as being all that practical. Not to mention that the aquatic-powers hero is going to insist on hogging the hot tub. :D

[fbdaury]

Yeah but there's something to be said for style don't you think?

[Matt the Bruins]

Maybe the aquatic-powers hero should have his own ride (http://www.boingboing.net/2008/10/10/russian-cops-hasslin.html)? :rofl:

[DusterBoy]

OMG! ROFLMAO! :rofl::rockon:

[Peregrine]

One note about the historic experimental jet planes - putting jet engines into conventional WWII airframes didn't work, because the 90 degree-mounted wings couldn't handle the stress of jet thrust and speeds long-term (sometimes short term). It wasn't until swept wings were introduced that viable jet aircraft could be deployed.

Still, they are cool, aren't they?

[SSgt Baloo]

Here's s'more:

http://www.amvaircraft.com/Protyope-photo-02-400.jpg (http://www.amvaircraft.com/html/prototypes.html)
The AMV-211 (http://www.amvaircraft.com/html/prototypes.html)

http://i.space.com/images/h_gridlock_comm_02.jpg (http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagedisplay/img_display.php?pic=h_gridlock_comm_02.jpg&cap=An+artist%27s+interpretation+of+the+Gridlock+C ommuter%2C+which+NASA+researchers+are+studying+as+ a+potential+personal+aircraft+of+the+future.+This+ limited-roadable+aircraft+is+shown+with+wings+folded+for+s torage+%28left%29+and+deployed.+Credit%3A+NASA%2FL ARC.+Click+to+enlarge.)
The Gridlock Commuter (http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagedisplay/img_display.php?pic=h_gridlock_comm_02.jpg&cap=An+artist%27s+interpretation+of+the+Gridlock+C ommuter%2C+which+NASA+researchers+are+studying+as+ a+potential+personal+aircraft+of+the+future.+This+ limited-roadable+aircraft+is+shown+with+wings+folded+for+s torage+%28left%29+and+deployed.+Credit%3A+NASA%2FL ARC.+Click+to+enlarge.)

[concord]

Not very 'super' vehicles but in use by a group of supers... :)

Wardens' Response Van

http://www.angeva.com/images/boards/responsevan-site.png

Alcatraz Foundation Security Vehicle

http://www.angeva.com/images/boards/suv-site.png

[Lawnmower Boy]

One note about the historic experimental jet planes - putting jet engines into conventional WWII airframes didn't work, because the 90 degree-mounted wings couldn't handle the stress of jet thrust and speeds long-term (sometimes short term). It wasn't until swept wings were introduced that viable jet aircraft could be deployed.

Still, they are cool, aren't they?

Uhm, no. On the contrary. A wing's resistance to torque is a function of the ratio of the cross-sectional area at the base of the wing (the basic determinant of wing rigidity) to its planform area multiplied or divided by a trig function of the angle of sweep. (Sorry to be vague, I can sort of visualise the math in my head, but it has been one heck of a long time since I took any statics. Anyway, what an expert says on the subject is likely to be a great deal more coherent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swept_wing).)
Anyway, the point is that swept wings are intrinsically much weaker than unswept, which is why they have to be so much thicker than unswept wings. And that, in turn, is why the early jet fighters were all straight-winged, including the Me-262.* The 262 did have a 17 degree angle of sweep, but this was to put the landing gear in the right place, and was geometrically and structurally irrelevant,** although it may have made some minor difference to its critical speed.

*You can see this in the transition from the North American FJ-1 to the F-86, for example.
**Not to mention the same angle of sweep as the Swordfish's wings.

[SSgt Baloo]

I recently did a couple of Early Warp-era starships using the assumption that, since the Vulcans' warp drive vessels used a torus-shaped drive system (in ST: Enterprise, anyway), the engineers on Earth might adopt the design for a while, assuming it has superior characteristics to a pair of long, relatively thin nacelles. In my own imagination, the vulcans chose this design hundreds of years ago as it had proved to be the least problematic configuration. While it can be used to make fast vessels like the Dkyr class (http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/D%27Kyr_type) and the Suraak class (http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Suurok_class) vessels, it has its limitations, and it becomes increasingly difficult (and possibly dangerous) to coax speeds beyond Warp 6.5 from this configuration.


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Space-Stuff/SSValiant.png

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/SSgtBaloo/Space-Stuff/UESBonaventure.png

[Escafarc]

http://epicwinftw.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/63b60e52-4c91-4080-93fe-1b55a9de1a0c.jpg

[DusterBoy]

Well, it was good enough for the X-Men, even it that was a custom job

[Escafarc]

I think have found the Insurance Company from super transports:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3EIEeEhVfY&feature=channel

[GhostDancer]

* A little help please? I'm running out of cool supergroup names (assuming I haven't already) and I'll draw you a super-transport so your (approximate) specifications if I use your suggested name.

Here are some suggestions I made for our Golden Age Detroit Game...
o Northern Front
o Heartland Security
o Third Front
o Tactical Services Squad
o Terrible Swift Sword
o Detroit Defense Force
o All Americans (Western Hemisphere, not just yanks)
o New World Order
o Iron Brigade (top Civil War unit, inc. 24th Regiment Michigan)
o The WATCH (Letter 'A' here is replaced with an eye over a pyramid, such as
shown on a one dollar bill)
o G Force (connotes motion and/or government)
o Honor Guard
o Ready Reserve (Capitals 'R's back-to-back in logo)
o Detroit Dragons

We actually settled on the Guardsmen, inspired by our Guardian Building hq, which really was commandeered by the War Department during WWII.

Another team name- Troubleshooters.

One villain group we are fighting are the Tokko- Japanese, Thought Police, a real organization- I added supers. As our GM, I'd love to see a long-range superteam vehicle for the Tokko.

[GhostDancer]

Would someone please tell me what the dangerous exhaust Limitation values were- I think they were from 1st edition Golden Age Champions?

[Escafarc]

Need to make sure my next supercar has this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=296E57CxNw4

[shadowcat1313]

since your in Detroit... you could go with Terrible Swift Ford

[Escafarc]

since your in Detroit... you could go with Terrible Swift Ford
I once had a Terrible Shifting Ford

[wcw43921]

Need to make sure my next supercar has this--

Nice for its time, but it occurs to me that four independently-steerable wheels (perhaps each with its own motor) could accomplish the same thing.

[Clonus]

Nice for its time, but it occurs to me that four independently-steerable wheels (perhaps each with its own motor) could accomplish the same thing.

Riding Bean had that.

[Escafarc]

I'm going to have C.L.O.W.N go around in supe-uped KrazY Kars:

http://www.timewarptoys.com/krazykar.jpg

[Hyper-Man]

http://hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/strangecars.com_.jpg

[DusterBoy]

http://hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/strangecars.com_.jpg

For this, you get bashed by the rep stick. That is teh orsum.

[GhostDancer]

Vehicle Name: Topside Courtesy Bus = TCB = Taking Care of Business (Photo below)
This 33' bus, 8' wide, renders aid to distressed motorists and residents in Detroit. It features locking nuts, one on each of ten wheels (four dualies + two spares, kevlar sidewalls) and several securing skid plate. The skid plate makes it more difficult to conceal bombs or bugs under the bus, or steal the catalytic convertor for the platinum element. The kill switch for our Topside Courtesy Van is hidden. You pull out the fake cigarette lighter, and push the button inside the socket. A spare key is concealed under a reflector above the driver's side rear view mirror, well above pedestrian eye level.

The engine is designed to alternately use as an emergency generator. The original engine was a 6 cylinder producing 140 hp, 40 mph top speed, replaced with a Detroit Diesel Series 60 14-liter, 575 hp and 1850 ft lb.torque, more powerful than larger express busses. In this application, it features engine stop/start and regenerative braking for enhanced fuel economy.

The windows are questonite, DEF 6. The windshield is clear to visible light, with UV tint. Other windows are one-way, opaque from the outside.
http://herologo.jpg/ CHARACTERISTICS
Val Char Base Points Total Roll Notes
7 SIZE 0 35 7 Length 5.04", Width 2.52", Area 12.70" Mass 12.8 ton KB -7
45 STR 45 0 45 18-HTH Damage 9d6 END [4]
10 DEX 10 0 0 11-OCV 3 DCV -12
2 SPD 2.0 0 2 Phases: 6, 12
6 DEF 2 12 6
17 BODY 17 0 17
2 SPD 2.00 0 2
15"Ground 6 18 15"
Movement
65 Total Characteristics Points Base Points:130 Disad Points:30 Total Points:160
COMBAT INFORMATION OCV:3 DCV:-1 http://herologo.jpg/
SKILLS Cost Name
Laboratories, one hex each
15 1) Electronics 15-
15 2) Mechanics 15-
15 3) Paramedics 15-
45 Total Skills Cost
DISADVANTAGES
Cost Disadvantage
15 Distinctive Features- Futurliner: (Not Concealable; Noticed and Recognizable; Detectable By Commonly-Used Senses)
15 Watched: Homeland Security- Stimulus Funding 8- (Mo Pow, NCI, PC has a Public ID or is otherwise very easy to find, Watching)
30 Total Disadvantages Cost
POWERS
Cost Power END
10 Ground Movement 0" (15" total), x8 Noncombat
2 2 Winches, 24 Manacles, 5 Auto Leveling Jacks, 1 Wheelchair Lift, 1 Tow Arm: Extra Limbs (33); OIF Bulky (-1)
5 IR Webcams: Infrared Perception (Sight Group), Increased Arc Of Perception (360 Degrees); OIF Bulky (-1)Spotlights, all slots Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2); all slots OIF Bulky (-1)
3 1) Illuminate: Change Environment 1" radius; OIF Bulky (-1)
30 2) Sight Group Flash 6d6, Area Of Effect (One Hex; +1/2); OIF Bulky (-1)
50Total Powers Cost38082

[DusterBoy]

That's a great looking bus, Ghost. They made some great looking vehicles back in the 40s. And you? You've obviously put a lot of thought into that write-up.

So, have rep.

[Pizza Man]

All these cool vehicles. Sigh. And in City of Heroes I had to use a friggen subway.

[DusterBoy]

You had your own subway train? I'm jealous.

[Hyper-Man]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5161alI806L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

[GhostDancer]

...complete with leaded glass canopy to screen out that pesky kryptonite radiation.

[wcw43921]

Here's a link (http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php/86197-Turbine-Powered-Batmobile.?p=2195085#post2195085) to my post about the new Batmobile.

[Hyper-Man]

http://www.relaxorium.com/freak/freak90.gif

[SSgt Baloo]

Flying aircraft carriers:


39592 39593 395943959539596

[SSgt Baloo]

More flying aircraft carriers:


http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=39598&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1312609813 (http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=39598&d=1312609813) http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=39599&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1216688676 (http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=39599&d=1312609814)http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=39600&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1312609815 (http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=39600&d=1312609815)http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=39601&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1312609816 (http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=39601&d=1312609816)

[Mister Khan]

the Phantom Corsair

http://www.kustomrama.com/images/0/06/1938-phantom-corsair.jpg http://www.kustomrama.com/images/thumb/b/b1/1938-phantom-corsair3.jpg/800px-1938-phantom-corsair3.jpg

[shadowcat1313]

ok, this was just too cool not to write up

1938 PHANTOM CORSAIR
Val Char Cost Notes
0 Size 0 Length 2m, Width 1m, Height 1m, Volume 2m^3 Mass 100 kg, OCV +0, KB 0
10 STR 0 Lift 100.0kg; 2d6
16 DEX 0
13 BODY 0
3 SPD -10 Phases: 4, 8, 12
Total Characteristic Cost: -10

Movement: Running: 64m / 128m
Swimming: 4m / 8m
Leaping: 4m

Cost Powers END
Construction
0 1) Mixed Steel and Aluminum Construction: (Total: 0 Active Cost, 0 Real Cost) 0
9 2) Low Silhouette: Change Environment (-2 to Sight Group PER Rolls, -2 to Radar PER Rolls, Multiple Combat Effects), Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (22 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), No Range (-1/2) 0
Powerplant
4 1) Lycoming (Cord) L-Head V-8 4.7L: Endurance Reserve (10 END, 10 REC) Reserve: (11 Active Points); OIF Immobile (-1 1/2), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4), 4 Continuing Charges lasting 1 Hour each (-0); REC: (8 Active Points); OIF Immobile (-1 1/2), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) Note: Supercharged to 190hp [4 cc]
Mobility
25 1) Fast Wheeled Movement: (Total: 84 Active Cost, 25 Real Cost) Ground Movement +52m (64m total) (52 Active Points); OAF Bulky (4 Tires; Requires Multiple Foci or functions at reduced effectiveness; -1 1/4), Fuel Dependent (-3/4), Only On Appropriate Terrain (-1/2), Custom Modifier (Real Equipment; -1/4) (Real Cost: 14) plus +2 SPD (20 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Linked (Ground Movement; -1/2), Custom Modifier (Real Equipment; -1/4) (Real Cost: 7) plus +6 DEX (12 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Linked (Ground Movement; -1/2), Custom Modifier (Real Equipment; -1/4) (Real Cost: 4) 0
1 2) Improved Suspension: +1 with Combat Driving (2 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Equipment; -1/4) Note: fully independent suspension and adjustable shock absorbers
1 3) Standard Tires: +3 BODY (3 Active Points); Custom Modifier (Tires Only; -2), OAF Bulky (-1 1/2)
-8 4) Ground Movement Only: Custom Power (-8 Active Points) 0
Electronics Systems
Personnel Systems
9 1) Covered Driving Lights: +5 PER with Sight Group (10 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Only in Darkness; -1/2) Note: (x2 number of items)Derived from Stinson Aircraft landing lights 0
1 2) Dash Padding and Impact Bumpers: Resistant Protection (4 PD) (6 Active Points); Custom Modifier (only to protect occupants from damage in collisions; -2), OIF Bulky Fragile (-1 1/4) 0
2 3) Heating And Airconditioning: Life Support (Safe in Intense Cold; Safe in Intense Heat) (4 Active Points); OIF Bulky Fragile (-1 1/4) 0
Optional Equipment


Talents
2 Bump Of Direction (3 Active Points); OIF Fragile (-3/4)


Skills
1 +1 with Mechanics (2 Active Points); OIF Bulky (Reduces Vehicle to 1/2 DCV; -1 1/4), Custom Modifier (Real Equipment; -1/4)


Total Powers & Skill Cost: 47
Total Cost: 37

200+ Disadvantages
General Information
0 1) Crew Note: Seats 6
0 2) Weight in Tons Note: 2 tons
0 3) Top Speed Note: 115
0 4) Country of Origin Note: USA
Actual Complications
15 1) Physical Limitation: Exposed suspension components result in it being easily damaged and harder to maintain (Infrequently; Greatly Impairing)
15 2) Physical Limitation: Gas Engine, vulnerable to fires if fuel system hit (Infrequently; Greatly Impairing)
15 3) Social Complication: One of a Kind Very Frequently, Major, Not Limiting In Some Cultures
15 4) Physical Complication: Poor Rear and Rear Side Visibility (Very Frequently; Barely Impairing) Note: split rear window, small shield shaped windows, no rear side windows
0 Experience Points

Total Disadvantage Points: 37

[Mister Khan]

Very nice write-up! :)

[DusterBoy]

That thing is sweet! Repped, Mr Khan! :D

[SSgt Baloo]

1938 PHANTOM CORSAIR
Val Char Cost Notes
0 Size 0 Length 2m, Width 1m, Height 1m, Volume 2m^3 Mass 100 kg, OCV

[Emphasis added]

Dude! My couch is bigger than that! I've seen the Phantom Corsair (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_Corsair) in person and it's longer and wider than that (and probably at least 1/2 meter taller). The actual car seats six people, four of them in the front (bench) seat and two more in rear-facing seats behind the front bench.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpUHvXIXFQY

[shadowcat1313]

that was a typo, I also couldnt find a listing for its dimensions

[shadowcat1313]

Size class 6 or 7?

[GhostDancer]

40803Walkyr WWII German Foo Fighter - concept art from the upcoming movie, Iron Sky

Like the heat ray pistol from the Gadget book, the gunners do not choose which MP slot to use- the GM determines if a target is flammable or not, and applies the appropriate attack.

This vessel can carry dozens of the listed bombs. Some of these bombs have a seven minute fuse on their TNT nosecone, instead of the heat Trigger. This timed fuse often results in rescue worker fatalities.

The saucer shaped hull does not provide a significant radar profile, and the antigravity engines do not emit much heat or sound. This design features a double hull of Victalen armor. A later design features a energy-charged outer hull for even greater durability.


Vehicle Name: Walkyr (Foo Fighter)
Additional Info:
Owners Name: NPC

http://www.herogames.com/forums/herologo.jpg





CHARACTERISTICS





Val

Char

Base

Points

Total

Roll

Notes



12

SIZE


60

12


Length 12", Width 12", Area 128" Mass 409.6 ton KB -12



70

STR

70


70

23-

HTH Damage 14d6 END [7]



25

DEX

10

45

25

14-

OCV 8 DCV 0



5

SPD

3.5

15

5


Phases: 3, 5, 8, 10, 12



21

DEF

2

57

21





22

BODY

22


22

13-




0"

Ground Movement

6

-12

0"





0"

Water Movement



2"





0"

Leaping



0"

163

Total Characteristics Points








CHARACTER IMAGE



http://www.herogames.com/forums/132418098123355111.jpg







EXPERIENCE POINTS





Total earned:




Spent:




Unspent:




Base Points:

650



Disad Points:

25



Total Points:

665








MOVEMENT





Type

Total



Run (6)

0"



Swim (2)

2"



H. Leap (0")

0"



V. Leap (0")

0"













COMBAT INFORMATION





OCV:

8

DCV:

0






Combat Skill Levels:






COMBAT MANEUVERS





Maneuver

Phase

OCV

DCV

Effect



Block

1/2

+0

+0

Block, abort



Brace


+2

1/2

+2 vs. Range Mod.



Disarm

1/2

-2

+0

Can disarm



Dodge

1/2

--

+3

Abort, vs. all attacks



Grab

1/2

-1

-2

Grab two limbs



Grab By

1/2

-3

-4

Move and Grab



Haymaker

1/2*

+0

-5

+4 DC attack damage



Move By

1/2

-2

-2

STR/2 + v/5



Move Through

1/2

-v/5

-3

STR + v/3



Set

1

+1

+0

Ranged Attacks only



Strike

1/2

+0

+0

STR or weapon






COMBAT MODIFIERS





Range

0-4

5-8

9-16

17-32

33-64

65-128



RMOD


-2

-4

-6

-8

-10














Character Name: Walkyr (Foo Fighter)
Alternate Identities:
Player Name: NPC

http://www.herogames.com/forums/herologo.jpg








DISADVANTAGES



Cost

Disadvantage



25

Distinctive Features: Foo Fighter (Not Concealable; Extreme Reaction; Detectable By Commonly-Used Senses)



25

Total Disadvantages Cost







POWERS



Cost

Power

END



20

Radar (Radio Group), Telescopic: +10




5

Equipment: Additional Ventral Heat Ray Notes: and Spreng-Brand ZA Explosive Incendiary Bombs - 3d6K Continuous Penetrating Sticky 50"r vs. ED + 20lbs TNT in the nosecones Triggered by heat, 20d6 EX vs. PD each, 110 pounds each.




10

Radio Perception/Transmission (Radio Group)




13

Supersonic: Flight 3", No Turn Mode (+1/4), MegaScale (1" = 100 km; +3/4), Can Be Scaled Down 1" = 1km (+1/4)




22

Invisibility to Radio Group and Infrared Perception , Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2)




375

Heat Rays: Multipower, 375-point reserve




21u

1) 88mm Dorsal Heat Ray: Killing Attack - Ranged 4 1/2d6, MegaScale (1" = 1 km; +1/4), Can Be Scaled Down 1" = 1km (+1/4), No Range Modifier (+1/2), Penetrating (+1/2), Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2)




20u

2) Either Heat Ray vs. Flammable Target: Killing Attack - Ranged 3d6, MegaScale (1" = 1 km; +1/4), Can Be Scaled Down 1" = 1km (+1/4), No Range Modifier (+1/2), Penetrating (+1/2), Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2), Sticky (+1/2), Continuous (+1)




16u

3) 37mm Ventral Heat Ray: Killing Attack - Ranged 3 1/2d6, MegaScale (1" = 1 km; +1/4), Can Be Scaled Down 1" = 1km (+1/4), No Range Modifier (+1/2), Penetrating (+1/2), Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2)




502

Total Powers Cost

[DusterBoy]

Nice write-up GhostDancer. Repped.

[SSgt Baloo]

Edit: *There will be a momentary delay while I try to say what I intended to, rather than what I posted in the first place.*

Would it have been less expensive to buy just one attack with a "sticky versus flammable targets" advantage/limitation in the first place, then pay 5 points to have another so you have two guns, one dorsal, one ventral (and presumably crew-served)?

[SSgt Baloo]

the Phantom Corsair

http://www.kustomrama.com/images/0/06/1938-phantom-corsair.jpg http://www.kustomrama.com/images/thumb/b/b1/1938-phantom-corsair3.jpg/800px-1938-phantom-corsair3.jpg

I always imagined that this is what the first Batmobile should have looked like.

[wcw43921]

Here's something I saw not too long ago--an eight-wheeled custom machine--

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2010/11/eightwheel_01.jpg


Link to story (http://jalopnik.com/5687360/a-home+built-eight+wheeled-sports-car-thatll-make-you-cry)

Another link (http://www.automotto.com/entry/wacky-wheels-home-built-eight-wheeled-sports-car)

I hope Bruce Wayne or someone like him buys it--it's too awesome looking to leave unfinished.

[DusterBoy]

I have an idea for a super-team's transport: a SpeedHuey. Essentially, this would be a UH-1Y given the "SpeedHawk" (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog:27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post:e44b7412-5c09-4b48-80ac-3d3f5b563a48) treatment and turned into a compound helo. Projected speed would be 200kts (about 230mph).

Plus, there's the nostalgia value of using a Huey.

[wcw43921]

Here's Dale Earnhardt Jr's Hot Wheels car--The Hammerhead

http://www.wired.com/geekdad/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Hammerhead-3-quarter-660x346.jpg


I always figured NASCAR drivers would make great superheroes--they're already used to wearing colorful outfits with big logos on the front.

Link To The Story (http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2011/09/dale-earnhardt-jr-designs-the-hammerhead-for-hot-wheels)

Now as the article says, Danica Patrick was first--and here is her Danicar


http://linkslanding.com/px/hotwheels/2011/danicar_red.jpg


Link to page (http://www.hotwheels.com/cars/danicar)

[GhostDancer]

Would it have been less expensive to buy just one attack with a "sticky versus flammable targets" advantage/limitation in the first place, then pay 5 points to have another so you have two guns, one dorsal, one ventral (and presumably crew-served)?[/QUOTE]

Maybe not - the vehicle as written has one dorsal gun and two ventral guns.

[Escafarc]

http://www.maam.org/p61/images/p61_large.jpg
Spoilered for sizehttp://fc04.deviantart.net/fs25/f/2008/167/4/0/Northrop_P_61_Black_Widow_by_bagera3005.png

[DusterBoy]

That Black Widow is one sweet looking airplane. Nice find, Escafarc.

[SSgt Baloo]

http://www.instablogsimages.com/1/2011/08/03/lamborghini_ankonian_concept_thei7.jpg (http://www.automotto.com/entry/lamborghini-ankonian-concept/)

[wrestlinggeek]

[QUOTE=SSgt Baloo;227100
[/QUOTE]

Quick heads-up. When I clicked on the picture, my virus protection blocked the website.

[SSgt Baloo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFk5yVHFQlU&amp;feature=related

http://youtu.be/FCqzvfPi5Kw

http://youtu.be/Bhiod-NXKRA

[wcw43921]

The Garrow Aircraft Verticopter--just the thing to get your hero(es) around the city, or even the state--


http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=mJc6TX7Reoo&feature=endscreen

[SSgt Baloo]

Hoverbike (http://youtu.be/Y0okX_vmL3w)

[wcw43921]

Hoverbike (http://youtu.be/Y0okX_vmL3w)

There was a thread (http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php/85676-should-this-be-in-Champions-Dark-Champions-Star-hero-or-here?highlight=Piasecki) about that back last summer. Nifty item--I wonder how much progress has been made on it.

[SSgt Baloo]

http://youtu.be/8Wzos0F8nNY

[DusterBoy]

So. . .many. . . ideas!

Thanks, Staff.

[Escafarc]

This one has a ablative force field

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSuaDmi7cmU

[Escafarc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQIMGV5vtd4

[wcw43921]

http://youtu.be/8Wzos0F8nNY



Is it just me, or do more than a few of those designs look like they were--ahem--"borrowed" from existing American aircraft?

[Vulcan]

Well, aerodynmaic principles are the same all over the world, and if you have the same mission in mind, it's not impossible that two separate designers would come up with very similar designs.

Of course, it's not like most of the designs copied were ever really that secret either...

[wcw43921]

Something for you Silver Agers, mentioned on a page here-- (http://www.roadabletimes.com/roadables-integ_horton.html<br />)although I think it would look pretty impressive in any comic-book age.


http://www.hitechweb.genezis.eu/liftingbodies2.files/image019.jpg

While the drawing indicates a propeller-driven aircraft, it wouldn't be that difficult, I think, to depict it as jet-propelled.

[Escafarc]

http://www.windsofchange.net/images/SHIP_LCS-GD_cutaway.pnghttp://www.strangemilitary.com/images/content/168448.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/USS_Independence_LCS-2_at_pierce_(cropped).jpg

[wcw43921]

Nice. Now if it could only fly. . .;)

[SSgt Baloo]

Nice. Now if it could only fly. . .;)

Actually I think the Helicarrier is bigger than that.

[SSgt Baloo]

http://youtu.be/rkL4XoB-QvQ

http://youtu.be/btSAQwDlRxQ

http://youtu.be/Ilj4DInZV10

http://youtu.be/wqVHPkvthHkhttp://youtu.be/bEyLfl76MGY

http://youtu.be/jOfBMRKLCCA

[wcw43921]

Why this car isn't a part of the Hot Wheels line I will never know--the Walley Larson LE-1 Groundfighter (http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/walley-larson-le1-groundfighter-ar37673.html)

http://www.gatsbyonline.com/Users/8/Images/GatsbyAutomobileDesign/WalleyLarsonLE1Groundfighter_01.bmp


Myself, I would swap out the turbocharged V-8 for a turbojet engine--then I'd have enough power for the blaster cannons, the electromagnetic weapon attractor, the sonic incapacitator, the million-candlepower strobe light ("MY EYES! OH, GOD, MY EYES!!!"), the extendable wings, the hover jets, the bowling ball thrower (who needs a battering ram when you can throw a 300-mph bowling ball at the door?)--to name but a few.

Still, this car is cool enough without all that stuff I mentioned. Pleas take note--I want this for my birthday. It's at the end of May, so you might want to start saving up now. :yes:

[DusterBoy]

Okay, I'm not a big fan of the movie Avatar, but I thought the vehicles were terrific.

So here's the:

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/TonyMorris71/Cool Vehicles/nemeth_aerospatiale_sa-2_samson.jpg

Aerospatiale SA-2 Samson

I thought it could work as a super-agent vehicle as well.

[Escafarc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh2Ym7ehb8k&amp;list=UUyxmNJp8tUblosjXWS9k_9Q&amp; index=10&amp;feature=plcp

[MisterVimes]

42142

How about an atomic airship?
The soviets actually proposed this behemoth, but they forget a critical system: gasbags for lift.

[SSgt Baloo]

42142

How about an atomic airship?
The soviets actually proposed this behemoth, but they forget a critical system: gasbags for lift.

That's odd, considering that they seem to have included everything else they could think of...?

[MisterVimes]

That's odd, considering that they seem to have included everything else they could think of...?
Heh. Agreed. They had an entire parking lot inside that thing. It looked like they were aiming at an "Air-Ferry"
I love that picture so much that I framed it and put it on the wall of my game cave next to pictures of Rocketeer and Doc Savage. :D
Eisenhower apparently had a similar idea that can be found here: Atoms for Peace (http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/22/why-dont-we-build-an-atoms-for-peace-dirigible/)

[SSgt Baloo]

Heh. Agreed. They had an entire parking lot inside that thing. It looked like they were aiming at an "Air-Ferry"
I love that picture so much that I framed it and put it on the wall of my game cave next to pictures of Rocketeer and Doc Savage. :D
Eisenhower apparently had a similar idea that can be found here: Atoms for Peace (http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/22/why-dont-we-build-an-atoms-for-peace-dirigible/)


Very cool! Thanks for the link! I really love this stuff! Would somebody rep MisterVimes for me? It seems I have to spread some first.

[MisterVimes]

Very cool! Thanks for the link! I really love this stuff! Would somebody rep MisterVimes for me? It seems I have to spread some first.

My pleasure. I have a great love for retro-tech, particularly atomic age stuff.

[Gary Miles]

My pleasure. I have a great love for retro-tech, particularly atomic age stuff.

When I was growing up in the sixties and seventies (I'm 51 next month), my grandfather had a HUGE collection of Popular Mechanics and Popular Science dating back to the late thirties, so I grew up drooling over that kind of thing.

[Pattern Ghost]

The USS Akron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Akron_(ZRS-4))and USS Macon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Macon_(ZRS-5)) are pretty good inspiration for an airship carrier.

[brionl]

How about an atomic airship?
The soviets actually proposed this behemoth, but they forget a critical system: gasbags for lift.

Gas Bags? That's for wimps. Real men use Vacuum chambers for lift. See Tarzan at the Earth's Core.

[MisterVimes]

Gas Bags? That's for wimps. Real men use Vacuum chambers for lift. See Tarzan at the Earth's Core.

Really? I thought it was cavorite. :)

http://www.online-literature.com/wellshg/meninthemoon/

[wcw43921]

Upsidaisium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upsidaisium) could also work. ;)

[Escafarc]

You could bribe a republican to pass a bill overturning the law of gravity.

[MisterVimes]

Upsidaisium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upsidaisium) could also work. ;)

Bullwinkle: Here it is: Frostbite Falls, Minnesota.
Rocket J. Squirrel: Bullwinkle, that's Florida!
Bullwinkle: Well, if they keep adding new states all the time how can you expect me to keep up?

[brionl]

Really? I thought it was cavorite. :)

http://www.online-literature.com/wellshg/meninthemoon/

Nope. They discovered a "really strong metal" that could stand the pressure. Pump all the air out, and it's lighter than air!
Cavorite is just stoopid. :P

[MisterVimes]

Nope. They discovered a "really strong metal" that could stand the pressure. Pump all the air out, and it's lighter than air!
Cavorite is just stoopid. :P

"Now, the beancounters told me we literally could not afford to buy $7 worth of moon rocks, much less 70 million. Bought 'em anyway. Ground them up, mixed them into a gel, and guess what: ground-up moon rocks are pure poison." - Cave Johnson

[Escafarc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgHSaNtAMjs

[wcw43921]

There's going to be a show on the SyFy channel this coming Tuesday (April 10) called Dream Machines (http://www.syfy.com/dreammachines). It follows two guys called the Parker Brothers and the shop in Florida where they build these thoroughly gorgeous vehicles from the ground up. It's a workplace reality show like American Chopper or Sons Of Guns, so you can expect a lot of arguing and stuff like, "If we can build this thing, we can move up to the next level!" and "We gotta get this built or we'll never move up to the next level!" But they also say they started the shop so they could build stuff like they saw in comics and movies, and their designs are very sleek and futuristic, so that males up for the arguing and the drama, I think.

Anyway, it occurs to me that if you were looking for someone in real life to build a superhero vehicle, these would be the guys to do it. I look forward to seeing what they come up with next.

[freakboy6117]

for the junior superspy out there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THhnXkJh5oQ&feature=youtu.be

[brionl]

There's going to be a show on the SyFy channel this coming Tuesday (April 10) called Dream Machines (http://www.syfy.com/dreammachines). It follows two guys called the Parker Brothers and the shop in Florida where they build these thoroughly gorgeous vehicles from the ground up. It's a workplace reality show like American Chopper or Sons Of Guns, so you can expect a lot of arguing and stuff like, "If we can build this thing, we can move up to the next level!" and "We gotta get this built or we'll never move up to the next level!"

And that's exactly why I won't be watching it. I really hate those "reality" shows that focus on all the "conflict" and "drama" that you just know is mostly staged for/instigated by the cameras. I watch the PowerBlock on Spike TV because even if the builds aren't as spiffy, they act like adults not petulant adolescents.

[MisterVimes]

There's going to be a show on the SyFy channel this coming Tuesday (April 10) called Dream Machines (http://www.syfy.com/dreammachines). It follows two guys called the Parker Brothers and the shop in Florida where they build these thoroughly gorgeous vehicles from the ground up. It's a workplace reality show like American Chopper or Sons Of Guns, so you can expect a lot of arguing and stuff like, "If we can build this thing, we can move up to the next level!" and "We gotta get this built or we'll never move up to the next level!" But they also say they started the shop so they could build stuff like they saw in comics and movies, and their designs are very sleek and futuristic, so that males up for the arguing and the drama, I think.

Anyway, it occurs to me that if you were looking for someone in real life to build a superhero vehicle, these would be the guys to do it. I look forward to seeing what they come up with next.

Reality show. :-/

Still. I may check it out.

[freakboy6117]

theres a fun toy on the webpage where you can design a few supertech looking bikes and cars

[Brother Jim]

I'm gonna check out the show.

If it has more reality show BS than this season of Sons of Guns I won't miss not seeing it again.
'Cause this season of SoG is about to get me to stop watching it.

[Escafarc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjtPn4orR9A

[MisterVimes]

For those, like me, obsessed with the Monowheel

Monowheels: The Weirdest Transport Known to Man (http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2008/08/monowheels-weirdest-transport-known-to.html)

Thanks to Steve Long for reminding me how much I love these wacky things.

[Air Pirate]

From the Museum of Retrotechnology (http://www.aqpl43.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/museum.htm), I give you the The Schilovski Gyrocar (http://www.aqpl43.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/TRANSPORT/gyrocars/schilovs.htm).

[Escafarc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McpWcn-1RZU

[Brother Jim]

I tried Dream Machines.

I will not continue to watch it.

[Hyper-Man]

http://www.dudeiwantthat.com/autos/exotic/hoverbike.asp

http://static.dudeiwantthat.com/autos/exotic/hoverbike-2605_lg.jpg

[SSgt Baloo]

I started a playlist >Strange Vehicles (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL89F8C672641CCE52)< on Youtube. If anyone finds something you think I might want to know about , either PM me a link or post it in this thread, if appropriate.

I will add the above paragraph to the O.P. and see what videos, if any, can be added to the list.

[SSgt Baloo]

I first saw a picture of this car in 1968. It is still the car of the future as far as I'm concerned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AjmLmG16Nw