Victor
Aug 11th, '03, 01:03 AM
Feel free to move this if it belongs elsewhere... there's no FH Rules Questions forum.
Under the maneuvers allowed to Units in mass combat, Block and Move Through are listed, but the new standard maneuver "Bind" is not, and Grab (or at least Martial Grab) is specifically excluded. Bind combines elements of the other three (Block in it's OCV vs. OCV mechanic, Grab in that it denies the use of the weapon/shield/hand/limb targetted, and Move Through in that a successful attack allows you to force an enemy back one hex). Should "Bind" be allowed for Units as well, or was the omission intentional?
The primary use for Bind goes to my second question, can Units make use of the Shield Wall maneuver? It seems like it's pretty much inherant to the use of shields, as well as a pretty standard tactic for large groups of warriors, but it's not explicitly listed for Mass Combat, either. Bind (or Grab or Move Through) would be the primary counter(s) to this, as the shield bonus is denied when the shield is Bound/Grabbed, or if the Character/Unit leaves the line (voluntarily or not), or if the shield user is flanked by someone breaking through their lines.
As an aside, when you attempt to Bind an opponent's shield, do they suffer a penalty on the OCV vs. OCV roll, according to the size of the shield?
Thirdly, if the front ranks are capable of Binding (or Grabbing) eachother's shields, units in the second rank should still be able to attack with weapons listed as size "L" or "L2" (according to FH p.186, top of the second column, but contradicted by the notes at the bottom of p. 165, where it says only "L2"). Presumably this would be handled as a Multiple Power Attack by that unit, correct?
Lastly, the description of the Form Square maneuver for Units (FH p. 205) reads in part, "... a unit cannot move more than 1" per Phase. It must Change Facing to face a specific direction if it wants to move more quickly." Does this mean that only it's movement in any direction other than forward is limited? Or was it meant that the unit needs to Change Formation instead? If neither of these is the case, I fail to see how their movement speed is increased by doing so.
Under the maneuvers allowed to Units in mass combat, Block and Move Through are listed, but the new standard maneuver "Bind" is not, and Grab (or at least Martial Grab) is specifically excluded. Bind combines elements of the other three (Block in it's OCV vs. OCV mechanic, Grab in that it denies the use of the weapon/shield/hand/limb targetted, and Move Through in that a successful attack allows you to force an enemy back one hex). Should "Bind" be allowed for Units as well, or was the omission intentional?
The primary use for Bind goes to my second question, can Units make use of the Shield Wall maneuver? It seems like it's pretty much inherant to the use of shields, as well as a pretty standard tactic for large groups of warriors, but it's not explicitly listed for Mass Combat, either. Bind (or Grab or Move Through) would be the primary counter(s) to this, as the shield bonus is denied when the shield is Bound/Grabbed, or if the Character/Unit leaves the line (voluntarily or not), or if the shield user is flanked by someone breaking through their lines.
As an aside, when you attempt to Bind an opponent's shield, do they suffer a penalty on the OCV vs. OCV roll, according to the size of the shield?
Thirdly, if the front ranks are capable of Binding (or Grabbing) eachother's shields, units in the second rank should still be able to attack with weapons listed as size "L" or "L2" (according to FH p.186, top of the second column, but contradicted by the notes at the bottom of p. 165, where it says only "L2"). Presumably this would be handled as a Multiple Power Attack by that unit, correct?
Lastly, the description of the Form Square maneuver for Units (FH p. 205) reads in part, "... a unit cannot move more than 1" per Phase. It must Change Facing to face a specific direction if it wants to move more quickly." Does this mean that only it's movement in any direction other than forward is limited? Or was it meant that the unit needs to Change Formation instead? If neither of these is the case, I fail to see how their movement speed is increased by doing so.