Book of the Destroyer: Destroyer v. Takofanes

[name_tamer]

I liked The Book of the Destroyer, but I'm not really the "post a review" type. One nice teaser: I was pleasantly surprised to see a reference to this thread (http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11399) on page 198. Many found the thread irritating (including, apparently, Lord Liaden, the thread starter, who eventually requested it be locked), but I was actually somewhat fond of it.

Hopefully this will get someone else interested enough to make the purchase.

[Lord Liaden]

I may need to have a few words with Steve Long. :tsk:

OTOH if something useful came out of that thread, that might slightly soothe my shame. :rolleyes:

[Enforcer84]

It was a fun if intense thread. No shame on you. If there's shame it for us who got so worked up over it.

[Log-Man]

Wow, Steve Long IS evil!

[Steve Long]

I'm not "evil." I just have no soul and hate people. :eek: :D

[Log-Man]

I'm not "evil." I just have no soul and hate people. :eek: :D
A useful distinction.




By which I mean I'll be using that myself :D

[Lord Mhoram]

When one of the guys in the game group got the book, he read that section to us ... and as most of the group at least lurk here, most everyone got a laugh.

There were a lot of great little touches like that in the book. It has become one of my favorites.

[L. Marcus]

I'm not "evil." I just have no soul and hate people. :eek: :D. . . There's a word for people like that. :)

[Log-Man]

. . . There's a word for people like that. :)
"Gamers."

:D

[Shaft]

I'm not "evil." I just have no soul and hate people. :eek: :D

There's a lawyer joke somewhere here, but alas, I'm just not funny enough to make it... :D

[Hermit]

I may need to have a few words with Steve Long. :tsk:

OTOH if something useful came out of that thread, that might slightly soothe my shame. :rolleyes:

So you're asking me to unlock it for you? SURE!

Or did I misunderstand ;)

[Lord Liaden]

Unlock that thread and you'll need more hope than a ring. :p

[Enforcer84]

Space Ghost is serious man.



actually, Space Ghost and a Blue Lantern would be an awesome team up.

[casualplayer]

That one thread was half of Agent X's post count. :D And a third of Gary's.

Good times, good times.

[bubba smith]

whats the skinny on this takeofanes i trust its prononced TAKEofafenes ,not TACOfanes

[lemming]

Mmmmm, Tacos

[death tribble]

I bought it yesterday and have begun reading it. I read the thing about the thread on the specified thread. Nice summary. It is good to know that our input is appreciated.

[Steve Long]

i trust its prononced TAKEofafenes ,not TACOfanes

It's pronounced tuh-KOFF-uh-neez. Greek-style, sorta.

[Steve Long]

It is good to know that our input is appreciated.

Appreciated, mocked, something like that. :eek: :D

[Log-Man]

Appreciated, mocked, something like that. :eek: :DSame thing.



It is the internet after all...

[casualplayer]

It's pronounced tuh-KOFF-uh-neez. Greek-style, sorta.

Have I ever mentioned how much I would like phonetic pronunciations included in rulebooks? Because I really, really would.

[Teflon Billy]

I'm not "evil." I just have no soul and hate people. :eek: :DYou don't have red hair. This one can't be true.

TB

[Dr Archeville]

Have I ever mentioned how much I would like phonetic pronunciations included in rulebooks? Because I really, really would.
I think the phonetic pronunciation of Takofanes' name is printed in one of the books.

[Lord Liaden]

Have I ever mentioned how much I would like phonetic pronunciations included in rulebooks? Because I really, really would.

Generally agreed, and especially for foreign/fictional words and names; but in Takofanes' case, his entry in Conquerors, Killers, And Crooks actually does spell his name phonetically, as Steve transcribed it above.

I know that Tuala Morn includes a pronunciation guide for all those Gaelic-derived words, and thank the gods for that, because you'd never guess how to pronounce Gaelic from how it's spelled. :rolleyes:

[Lord Liaden]

I haven't seen Book Of The Destroyer yet, let alone the section dealing with him and Takofanes. So, um... who won? :whistle:

(Hey, if you're gonna bring it back up, bring it all the way. This time it'll be your fault.) :eg:

[Lord Mhoram]

It's pronounced tuh-KOFF-uh-neez. Greek-style, sorta.

Good to know I've been pronouncing it right all along.

[name_tamer]

So, um... who won? :whistle:


Canonically, they have not met. The book makes a reference to message board threads debating the issue, and there's a very dry line about what conclusions can be drawn from such threads.

I think you can probably guess the general nature of the line, but I don't want to spoil it (further) for those who haven't seen the book.

[Dr Archeville]

Canonically, they have not met. The book makes a reference to message board threads debating the issue, and there's a very dry line about what conclusions can be drawn from such threads.

I think you can probably guess the general nature of the line, but I don't want to spoil it (further) for those who haven't seen the book.
Also, it does say that Dr. Destroyer has... developed a force field which he thinks is "attuned" to offer maximum protection against magic. If he knows he's likely to engage Takofanes, he'll install it in his armor. It even gives game terms: Force Field (5 PD/5 ED/20 Power Defense/20 Mental Defense), Costs 0 END.

[Steve Long]

I know that Tuala Morn includes a pronunciation guide for all those Gaelic-derived words, and thank the gods for that, because you'd never guess how to pronounce Gaelic from how it's spelled.

Which is why Tualan isn't Irish or Gaelic -- I deliberately change the spelling to make the words easier for English speakers to pronounce, and to "Fantasy-ize" them a bit. Believe me, Tualan's nothin' compared to the real thing. ;)

[ParagonAlpha]

There is a fantasy series that uses a lot of Gaelic basis for the names of places.

You try and pronounce Cwm Pcl.

Yeah though so.

[Dr Archeville]

There is a fantasy series that uses a lot of Gaelic basis for the names of places.

You try and pronounce Cwm Pcl.

Yeah though so.

Throat-war-bler Man-grove?

[Bloodstone]

There is a fantasy series that uses a lot of Gaelic basis for the names of places.

You try and pronounce Cwm Pcl.

coom pickel?

[ParagonAlpha]

coom pickel?

Not bad...

Rep unto you.

[Lord Liaden]

I'm not "evil." I just have no soul and hate people. :eek: :D

It just occurred to me that if this it true, if Takofanes comes after me I can hide behind Steve Long while Tak futilely tries to reave his soul. :sneaky:

[ghost-angel]

It just occurred to me that if this it true, if Takofanes comes after me I can hide behind Steve Long while Tak futilely tries to reave his soul. :sneaky:

Ummm... you're making an assumption they aren't the same entity. . .

[FenrisUlf]

Concerning the "Patented Doc Destroyer anti-lich force field", wouldn't it just be easier to send in robots with squirt bottles filled with holy water? Y'know, considering Takky's Susceptibility and all that?

[Steve]

Concerning the "Patented Doc Destroyer anti-lich force field", wouldn't it just be easier to send in robots with squirt bottles filled with holy water? Y'know, considering Takky's Susceptibility and all that?

That sounds a little low-class for Doctor D. I would expect something more like him designing a Celestial Mega-Cannon for him to use. Just vaporize the whole area that the Arch-Lich is standing on with holy energies sent down from orbit. :eek:

[starblaze]

A useful distinction.




By which I mean I'll be using that myself :D

Well, he was a lawyer at one time......:D:eg::eg:

[Egyptoid]

75,000 quat-loos on the Dead One!

[Dr Archeville]

Concerning the "Patented Doc Destroyer anti-lich force field", wouldn't it just be easier to send in robots with squirt bottles filled with holy water? Y'know, considering Takky's Susceptibility and all that?
Wouldn't that require Zerstoiten to put faith in something other than himself and his technology?

[ghost-angel]

Concerning the "Patented Doc Destroyer anti-lich force field", wouldn't it just be easier to send in robots with squirt bottles filled with holy water? Y'know, considering Takky's Susceptibility and all that?

1) Dr. D has to know about and believe in such a vulnerability
2) Even if he did that's an extremely Un-Destroyer like tactic
3) The Evil Taco could probably lay waste to an army of robots before they even unholstered their squirt bottles.

[Lord Liaden]

Takofanes' Susceptibility and Vulnerability to Holy stuff are listed as Uncommon. To me that implies you'd need rarer and more potent artifacts, and truer faith, than just generic holy water in the hands of Joe Goes-Through-The-Motions-Churchgoer, to get a rise out of him.

[Enforcer84]

And it begins again...

[Log-Man]

So help me, I will turn this thread around right now if you don't behave. :tsk:

[Lord Liaden]

And it begins again...

OMG what am I doing?! :eek: :o

Move along, nothing to see here... :whistle:

[FenrisUlf]

And it begins again...

No!

For the love of all that's good, forgive me! :eek:

[L. Marcus]

. . . And just when the thread was getting interesting. :(

[brionl]

I know that Tuala Morn includes a pronunciation guide for all those Gaelic-derived words, and thank the gods for that, because you'd never guess how to pronounce Gaelic from how it's spelled. :rolleyes:

Sure you can, it's easy. Just look at the way it's spelled and pronounce it oppositely.

[Nuclear Fridge]

. . . There's a word for people like that. :)
There is. "Customer Services Personnel". I know - I used to be one.
You quickly learn to hate people working in a call centre.

[Balabanto]

My only comment on this is the following link to something elsewhere on these boards.

Dice were rolled, as they always should be.

http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php/73539-Champions-Universal-Deathmatch-Final-Round!-Doctor-Destroyer-vs.-Takofanes!?highlight=Champions+Universal+Deathmatc h

[Tasha]

There is. "Customer Services Personnel". I know - I used to be one.
You quickly learn to hate people working in a call centre.

LOL I think you mean that you learn to hate people when you work in a Call Center. Hell, it's the same way when you work retail esp any Customer Service areas. You see people at their worse being jerks just because they think that being a jerk gets you something.

[Lawnmower Boy]

LOL I think you mean that you learn to hate people when you work in a Call Center. Hell, it's the same way when you work retail esp any Customer Service areas. You see people at their worse being jerks just because they think that being a jerk gets you something.

It doesn't?
Because as near as I can tell, it does. And then they go away and explain to their friends how they did it.

[Nuclear Fridge]

LOL I think you mean that you learn to hate people when you work in a Call Center. Hell, it's the same way when you work retail esp any Customer Service areas. You see people at their worse being jerks just because they think that being a jerk gets you something.

I stand corrected. That is exactly what I wanted to say!

[Tasha]

It gets the CS person to grudgingly give them something. What they don't notice is the nice, but firmly insistant person who gets so much more because they were being nice. CS people really like nice people and try their best when they get someone who is reasonable and nice. I always go out of my way for a nice person and have observed that most CS people do the same thing.

[Derek Hiemforth]

It gets the CS person to grudgingly give them something. What they don't notice is the nice, but firmly insistant person who gets so much more because they were being nice. CS people really like nice people and try their best when they get someone who is reasonable and nice. I always go out of my way for a nice person and have observed that most CS people do the same thing.Yeah, I try to make sure this is my approach. I don't rant and rave, I don't raise my voice, I don't get personal or nasty or insulting... I just don't back down either. ;) I find that going into the situation with the mindset that "Of course there's a solution, we just need to find it," is a lot more helpful than going in with the mindset of "I'll be such a PITA that you'll placate me just to get rid of me."

Granted, the latter may end up being the solution that the CS rep chooses to find, but that's not my assumption going in... :winkgrin:

[Squall]

Is there any chance someone could post a link to the old thread? I don't want to stir it up again, I'm not out to re-start whatever argument, I'm not asking it to be unlocked -- I'm sure it was locked for a reason -- but it seems like it might be an interesting read, in the meantime, and I can't seem to find it.

[aylwin13]

Is there any chance someone could post a link to the old thread? I don't want to stir it up again, I'm not out to re-start whatever argument, I'm not asking it to be unlocked -- I'm sure it was locked for a reason -- but it seems like it might be an interesting read, in the meantime, and I can't seem to find it.
I'm sure that giving this to you won't be a problem:

[/URL][url]http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php/11399-Doctor-Destroyer-versus-Takofanes/ (http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php/11399-Doctor-Destroyer-versus-Takofanes/page5?highlight=Destroyer+v.+Takofanes)


Run away!

[FenrisUlf]

Is there any chance someone could post a link to the old thread? I don't want to stir it up again, I'm not out to re-start whatever argument, I'm not asking it to be unlocked -- I'm sure it was locked for a reason -- but it seems like it might be an interesting read, in the meantime, and I can't seem to find it.


I'm sure that giving this to you won't be a problem:

http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php/11399-Doctor-Destroyer-versus-Takofanes?highlight=Destroyer+v.+Takofanes (http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php/11399-Doctor-Destroyer-versus-Takofanes/page5?highlight=Destroyer+v.+Takofanes)

Run away!

I thought we'd buried it after driving a stake through its heart?

[torchwolf]

I thought we'd buried it after driving a stake through its heart?
That's only effective on "How to build a vampire in the Hero System" threads.

[BoloOfEarth]

I thought we'd buried it after driving a stake through its heart?


That's only effective on "How to build a vampire in the Hero System" threads.

(paraphrasing) "The nice thing about a stake through the heart is, it works against non-vampires as well." Moist Von Limpwig, Going Postal.