Who Watches The Foxbat?

[KA.]

There is another thread going concering the origin of Teleios.
According to canon, Teleios woke up one morning after a hard night of research with the answers he was looking for written in his own handwriting on his desk.
Did it come to him in a dream?
Did his future self come back in time to give him the answers?
Is this just another excuse for KA. to go off on a wild tangent?
You betcha!

The Following exchange took place . . .

nexus
Am I alone in the sick desire to have Foxbat turn out to be the greatest master villain in the Champions U? His master plan includes every unexplained or mysterious event in the setting, a plan so vast and all encompassing it cannot fail to lead to his dominance of the Universe. He is the inevitable something Capt Chronos is futility trying to stop.... without knowing his interference is part of the plan too.

and he's doing it all in plain sight, even announcing it and chuckling AT not with his detractors.

KA.
I think I am going to go with Foxbat.
Foxbat is the Keyser Soze, or perhaps more appropriately the Verbal Kint, of the Champions universe.
All of his supposed "idiocy" and "insanity" is just a smokescreen.
He is actually the most brilliant, dangerous Supervillain in the world.


nexus
The module should open with the PC investigating the murder of a well known if someone shady superhero in Hudson City. He was severely beaten and hurled to his death through the his apartment window....

KA.
"On Friday night, a Crusader died in Hudson City."

"Do it?
Nighthawk, I'm not a Republic serial villain. Do you seriously think I'd explain my master-plan if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it thirty-five minutes ago."

Which leads us to this . . .

With an eye toward the ridiculous, using the Champions Universe past or present, fill out the rest of the Watchmen cast.

To get things started, I present the following . . .

The Comedian = Crusader
Why? Well, according to Underworld Enemies, Crusader fell on hard times as he got older, had done some dirty work for the government, and was even thrown off the roof of a building by an unknown assailant!

Foxbat = Ozymandias
Why? Because he is the only logical candidate.
He is such an egomaniac that he warns everyone about his Master Plan, and yet he is sure he will carry it out.

I am pretty firm on the first two, but I have a couple of suggestions for Rorshach . . .
1) The Harbinger of Justice, mainly for the proper attitude.
2) A totally burned out Seeker. He has been Seeking so long that he has gone a bit mad, and learned to take a few "shortcuts" in his pursuit of the Truth.

Okay, that's my start, let's take a look at what the rest of you think.

KA.

[matrix3]

Hmm... I would concur with Harbinger as Rorshach, except he is too well armed and prepared. Someone with Harbinger's attitude, but only a grappling gun and light armor?

[Greywind]

...everybody knows Foxbatlass watches Foxbat...

[Spence]

...everybody knows Foxbatlass watches Foxbat...

and Foxbatboy.......


:nonp:


I feel dirty now :hush:

[Narratio]

and Foxbatboy.......

:nonp:

I feel dirty now :hush:Bet next you'll mention the FoxbatHound? :ugly:

I could forgive that, just never, ever mention Foxbatmite! Okay?

[Spence]

Bet next you'll mention the FoxbatHound? :ugly:

I could forgive that, just never, ever mention Foxbatmite! Okay?

:rofl:

[OddHat]

Bet next you'll mention the FoxbatHound? :ugly:

I could forgive that, just never, ever mention Foxbatmite! Okay?

I will rep anyone who posts a full write up for Foxbatmite, complete with origin story and adventure seeds.

[The Main Man]

Defender would be a better Nite Owl than Nighthawk.

Black Mask V could be Silk Specter.

[Checkmate]

Defender for Nightowl, which would make Witchcraft Silk Specter. I think a neat play on things is to make Dr. Destroyer Dr. Manhattan. I've always pictured Dr. Destroyer more like the later issues of Dr. Doom. He wants to take over the world because he honestly believes he will rule it best. He thinks order is everything, freedoms lead to chaos. If everyone is told exactly what to do, utopia is created. Foxbat would have to come up with a scheme to get rid of the greatest mind on the planet similar to what Ozy did with Dr. M.

[Checkmate]

Nighthawk would make an O.K. Rorschach. The thing about Rorschach is he is absolutely uncompromising, that's sorta where HoJ stands out as a better choice.

[The Main Man]

I agree with HoJ as Rorschach.

[brionl]

Is there a master list of Champions Universe good guys? I've seen several reference lists of villains. I'm trying to think of somebody that would be a good Dr. Manhatten, but drawing a blank.

Oh yeah, and the Space Pirate Amazon Ninja Foxgirl (http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64950) watches Foxbat. :D

[Matt the Bruins]

Champions heroes tend to be a bit underpowered compared to the villains, don't they?

If we were to use villains in place of the Watchmen figures other than Ozymandias, a choice does suggest itself for a godawfully powerful figure who put himself back together posthumously and has the whole world anxious about what he'll do next...

[OddHat]

Is there a master list of Champions Universe good guys? I've seen several reference lists of villains. I'm trying to think of somebody that would be a good Dr. Manhatten, but drawing a blank.

Oh yeah, and the Space Pirate Amazon Ninja Foxgirl (http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64950) watches Foxbat. :D

Cosmo for Doctor Manhatten. He was the official Cosmic Power Pool poster boy, and Hero of Russia is still a Hero. Adjust the pool level to taste.

Alternatively, Doctor Ka, who could be ascending to true godhood rather than Doc's science-god status.

[Narratio]

I will rep anyone who posts a full write up for Foxbatmite, complete with origin story and adventure seeds.

Not even on the worst of days when the contractors are going nuts, the pain medication is refusing to kick in, the water for coffee has run out and they've once again changed to daylight savings time back in reality would I dream of writing up Foxbatmite.

There are things that man was not meant to know...

[DocMan]

Champions heroes tend to be a bit underpowered compared to the villains, don't they?

If we were to use villains in place of the Watchmen figures other than Ozymandias, a choice does suggest itself for a godawfully powerful figure who put himself back together posthumously and has the whole world anxious about what he'll do next...

Are you thinking of Mechanon?

Doc

[Matt the Bruins]

Think formerly-living human.

[OddHat]

Really, the CU just isn't an appropriate venue for Watchmen, even good Watchmen satire.

The Watchmen book only works as well as it does because Superhumans are incredibly rare (we know of only one, or arguably two, plus a bunch of low level psychics). There are no known Supernatural threats, no Aliens, no physical Time Travel or Dimensional Travel, no Evil Organizations with access to magic or supertech other than Veidt International. You can make a Grim and Gritty CU, but one where the Watchmen scenario makes sense would look so little like the CU that you might as well just start from zero.

Hermit posted a great CU through the Ages a few years back. Maybe he could spin an entertaining Who Watches the Champions.

[Lucius]

Okay, I'm working on Foxbatmite.

Foxbat's secret ID name is Freddy something isn't it?

Lucius Alexander

The palindromedary found the right dimension

[Shadow Hawk]

Okay, I'm working on Foxbatmite.

Foxbat's secret ID name is Freddy something isn't it?

Lucius Alexander

The palindromedary found the right dimension

Frederick Foswell III.

[Narratio]

Okay, I'm working on Foxbatmite.

Oh Lord I knew I should of cut back on the caffiene. Look guys, can we forget I ever mentioned him? I'll go back, delete the post, we'll all pretend it never happened.
.
How's that?
.
Look, why not ignore the idea of Foxbatmite and do FoxbatHound instead eh? You can make it a beagle or a dachshund, give it a fleacollar forcefield and everything!

It's not going to work is it? We're doomed. Mother told me there would be days like this... :help:

[Lucius]

Foxbatmite is done and posted.

Lucius Alexander

Who watches the palindromedary?

[Lord Liaden]

And he's not what you probably expect. I highly recommend checking out Lucius's concept.

[DocMan]

Posted where?

Doc

[Spence]

Posted where?

Doc

On the board



:whistle:

[Lord Liaden]

Posted where?

Doc

Um, on the "Champions" subforum, in the thread entitled, "Character: Foxbatmite."

(You're going to make me post a link, aren't you?) :rolleyes:

http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72129

[DocMan]

Actually, I found it before you posted the link... but I'm sure that those who come after me will appreciate the effort!

Doc

[Lucius]

Bet next you'll mention the FoxbatHound? :ugly:

I could forgive that, just never, ever mention Foxbatmite! Okay?

Foxbatmite has been reputized 13 times already, in less than 24 hrs. The record was about 14. Foxbatmite is on the way to becoming the most reputized thing I have ever posted.

And I have YOU to thank for it, Narratio!

Lucius Alexander

Have a palindromedary!

[Narratio]

Oh my life... excuse, I've got a brain embolism I need to initiate. Oh... Right, right... I've just been reminded that the Foxbathound is still awaiting creation. There's a list of known associates and equipment stacked here too. Get on it when you can eh?

[bubba smith]

Really, the CU just isn't an appropriate venue for Watchmen, even good Watchmen satire.

The Watchmen book only works as well as it does because Superhumans are incredibly rare (we know of only one, or arguably two, plus a bunch of low level psychics). There are no known Supernatural threats, no Aliens, no physical Time Travel or Dimensional Travel, no Evil Organizations with access to magic or supertech other than Veidt International. You can make a Grim and Gritty CU, but one where the Watchmen scenario makes sense would look so little like the CU that you might as well just start from zero.

Hermit posted a great CU through the Ages a few years back. Maybe he could spin an entertaining Who Watches the Champions.
maybe some dark champions heroes culd be used here they are less powerfull

[bubba smith]

what did i do?kill this thread nobody's posted in a week

[Greywind]

Two days is not a week...

[Lucius]

Come back in a week.

Same Foxbat time, same Foxbat channel.

Lucius Alexander

Different palindromedary, I'm sending the other one out for cleaning.

[Narratio]

We're all waiting for Lucius to post the write ups for a cigar chompin', eyepatch wearing, gun wielding Ultimate Aunt May. Who'll go toe to toe in a two fisted slugfest of riotiousness versus insanity to decide who will rule.

But Lucius claims he's too busy.

Even when I tempted him with Marvels's old "What if..." idea. What if Aunt may had Wolverines claws, What if Aunt May was not Spidey's aunt but that of Galactus? (Hmmm, now there's an idea... "Galactus, it's about time you settled down, I'm not getting any younger you know!", "Aww Aunt May, do we have to discuss this now? I've got a new herald to break in...")

[Lucius]

We're all waiting for Lucius to post the write ups for a cigar chompin', eyepatch wearing, gun wielding Ultimate Aunt May. Who'll go toe to toe in a two fisted slugfest of riotiousness versus insanity to decide who will rule.

But Lucius claims he's too busy.

Even when I tempted him with Marvels's old "What if..." idea. What if Aunt may had Wolverines claws, What if Aunt May was not Spidey's aunt but that of Galactus? (Hmmm, now there's an idea... "Galactus, it's about time you settled down, I'm not getting any younger you know!", "Aww Aunt May, do we have to discuss this now? I've got a new herald to break in...")

I did an Aunt May. Because I owed you one, Narratio.

Count your blessings I didn't do Aunt May as a herald of Galactus and have her discover that she can use her baking skills and cosmic powers to sate the hunger of Galactus by feeding him planet sized snack cakes instead of whole worlds...

Cosmic Baker: Summon Planet Sized Base with Real Fruit Filling

Lucius Alexander

Coming soon from Palindromedary Enterprises: Prune, the Dessert Planet

[OSAT]

Lucius Alexander

Coming soon from Palindromedary Enterprises: Prune, the Dessert Planet

he who controls the Juice controls the bowels?

[Narratio]

Cosmic Baker: Summon Planet Sized Base with Real Fruit Filling
Okay, For that line alone I can forgive so many sins. And the write up of Aunt May was truly fine. I'll rep you for it at some time.

Megascale baking... And reminding him to carry an umbrella 'cos the weather report says there'll be heavy cosmic ray storms later this century. And don't go tracking that primordial soup around my nice clean kitchen. Where were you born? In a some Big Bang?

Ah yes, I really owe you.

[DocMan]

Count your blessings I didn't do Aunt May as a herald of Galactus and have her discover that she can use her baking skills and cosmic powers to sate the hunger of Galactus by feeding him planet sized snack cakes instead of whole worlds...

Cosmic Baker: Summon Planet Sized Base with Real Fruit Filling

Who is this being, known only as... The Hostess?

Doc

[brionl]

I did an Aunt May. Because I owed you one, Narratio.

Count your blessings I didn't do Aunt May as a herald of Galactus and have her discover that she can use her baking skills and cosmic powers to sate the hunger of Galactus by feeding him planet sized snack cakes instead of whole worlds...

Cosmic Baker: Summon Planet Sized Base with Real Fruit Filling

Lucius Alexander

Coming soon from Palindromedary Enterprises: Prune, the Dessert Planet

It's been done. (http://superdickery.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=29%3Aconfounding-comic-covers-index&id=1104%3Aaunt-may-vs-galactus&Itemid=24)

I'm sure you guys knew that, but other people might be scratching their heads.

[Lucius]

It's been done. (http://superdickery.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=29%3Aconfounding-comic-covers-index&id=1104%3Aaunt-may-vs-galactus&Itemid=24)

I'm sure you guys knew that, but other people might be scratching their heads.

I should have known.

Lucius Alexander

Even the palindromedary has antecedants that go back to ancient Egypt...