Good Dogfight sources

[Redmenace]

I'm planning a WW2 all ACEs squadron campaign, think a cross between the Blackhawks and Crimson Skies. Can anyone reccomend some good source material. I would really appreciate some good movies and or TV shows.

Thanks in advance.

[Burrito Boy]

Several episodes of The History Channel's show Dogfights have been posted on YouTube. The show covers everything from WWII to modern planes.

[lemming]

You could always see if you can find Baa Baa Black Sheep (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baa_Baa_Black_Sheep_(TV_series))

[shadowcat1313]

wont say good or bad on these, but some suggestions

TV Shows:
Baa Baa Blacksheep
Twelve O'clock High
assorted stuff from the history channel

Movies
Flying Tigers
Memphis Belle
Blue Max[WW1 actually] but one of my favorites
Flying Leathernecks
Hellcats of the Navy[with ronald reagan] good luck finding

[shadowcat1313]

more Movies:
633 Squadron
Tora Tora Tora
Midway
Pearl Harbor

odd note: if you've ever seen Doctor Strangelove, they used a B-17 for a lot of the interior shots, and if you looked at the shadow of the B-52 when its flying over snow, its a B-17 shadow actually.

[Burrito Boy]

The Tuskegee Airmen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tuskegee_Airmen)

[shadowcat1313]

more Movies:
633 Squadron
Tora Tora Tora
Midway
Pearl Harbor

odd note: if you've ever seen Doctor Strangelove, they used a B-17 for a lot of the interior shots, and if you looked at the shadow of the B-52 when its flying over snow, its a B-17 shadow actually.

[Ian Mackinder]

For movies, I'm surprised nobody has yet mentioned 'The Battle Of Britain'.

[Beast]

for a good song about a dogfight there is this
granted it is ww1
also for movies Fly Boys (also WW1)
The Last Starfighter,star wars,Battle Beyond the Stars

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAgoZXYyRUQ

[shadowcat1313]

forgot about
Sky Captain and the World of Tommorow

[Redmenace]

Thanks much everyone, that is exactly what I needed. All I came up with on my own was Dogfight and Talespin.

Sky Captain was on my list but if it gets a pass on a pulp board I guess I'll look elsewhere.

[Ian Mackinder]

Sky Captain was on my list but if it gets a pass on a pulp board I guess I'll look elsewhere.

Well, I enjoyed it, but putting it down seems to be a popular pasttime on various boards.

As 'dogfight movies' go, unless your game is likely to feature a P-40 more tricked out than James Bond's Aston Martin, weird airships and giant robots; it probably is not what you are looking for here. Think 'Crimson Skies' combined with seriously deranged (Hollywood) science and some interesting drugs, and you might come close.

[Wolfjack]

How about "The Dawn Patrol?" Sure its WW I, but this set the orignal standard back in the day is quite pulp appropriate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dawn_Patrol_(1938_film)

Next to Battle of Britain, its a top film in my book.

[Curufea]

Der Rote Baron
http://www.traileraddict.com/player.swf?id=3955

My all time favourite CGI dogfighting effects

[Redmenace]

Watched "633 Squadron" last night, just perfect pulp inspiration. Thanks Shadowcat 1313


Found the following at FRY's, have yet to watch them. I think they are all from Alpha Video and run about $4.99 per disc.


Sky Raiders (Chapters 1-12)
Starring Robert Armstrong, Billy Halop & Donald Woods
Directed by Ford Beebe & Ray Taylor
Enemy agents are after a new fighter plane invented by a famous aviator in this action-packed Universal serial.
Serial DVD - Released October 26, 2004


The Mystery Squadron (Chapters 1-12)
Starring Bob Steele
Directed by Colbert Clark & David Howard
The "Black Ace" engages is air war over the western plains in twelve cliff-hanging chapters.
Serial DVD - Released January 31, 2006


Ace Drummond, Volume 1 (Chapters 1-6)
Starring John King, Jean Rogers, Lon Chaney & Jr.
Directed by Ford Beebe
The evil-saboteur "The Dragon" threatens the world and hero pilot Ace Drummond must thwart his insidious plans.
Serial DVD - Released December 9, 2003


Ace Drummond, Volume 2 (Chapters 7-13)
Starring John King, Jean Rogers, Lon Chaney & Jr.
Directed by Ford Beebe
The evil-saboteur "The Dragon" threatens the world and hero pilot Ace Drummond must thwart his insidious plans.
Serial DVD - Released December 9, 2003





The Adventures of Smilin' Jack, Volume 1 (Chapters 1-6)
Starring Keye Luke, Turhan Bey & Sidney Toler
Directed by Ray Taylor & Lewis D. Collins
An American stunt pilot faces international intrigue in the orient.
Serial DVD - Released May 25, 2004

The Adventures of Smilin' Jack, Volume 2 (Chapters 7-13)
Starring Keye Luke, Turhan Bey & Sidney Toler
Directed by Ray Taylor & Lewis D. Collins
An American stunt pilot faces international intrigue in the orient.
Serial DVD - Released May 25, 2004

[Beast]

for modern dog fights look at Area88
it is japanese anime

[death tribble]

There are other war films

Battle of Midway
Reach for the Sky (This is about Douglas Bader who had a tin leg)
Mosquito Squadron

And definitely Battle of Britain

There is a John Wayne/Kirk Douglas film which has some dogfight stuff in it. It's Black and White set in the Pacific

[Ian Mackinder]

Reach for the Sky (This is about Douglas Bader who had a tin leg)

BOTH legs, dude. I read the book that the movie was based on. Bader was in a horrific aircrash in the 1930s. Miracle that he survived at all, even more of a miracle that he STILL wanted to fly afterwards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Bader

[Redmenace]

for modern dog fights look at Area88
it is japanese anime

I've never seen the anime, but I loved the Manga. A number of situations from it found their way into a Star Wars game I ran in the mid 90s.