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Lucius
Jul 20th, '09, 06:27 PM
Hagar the Horrible
Val Char Cost Roll Notes
15 STR 5 12- Lift 200.0kg; 3d6 [1]
14 DEX 12 12- OCV: 5/DCV: 5
18 CON 16 13-
10 BODY 0 11-
13 INT 3 12- PER Roll 12-
11 EGO 2 11- ECV: 4
15 PRE 5 12- PRE Attack: 3d6
10 COM 0 11-

4 PD 1 Total: 4 PD (0 rPD)
4 ED 0 Total: 4 ED (0 rED)
3 SPD 6 Phases: 4, 8, 12
7 REC 0
36 END 0
27 STUN 0 Total Characteristic Cost: 52

Movement:
Running: 7"/14"
Leaping: 2"/4"
Swimming: 3"/6"

Cost Powers END
15 Luck 3d6

Perks
0 Longship and Crew

Talents
12 Combat Luck (6 PD/6 ED)

Skills
The Gothic Arts of Pillaging, Pilfering, Sacking, Looting, Ravaging and Plundering
3 1) PS: Viking Captain 12-
3 2) Oratory 12-
3 3) Concealment 12-
4 4) Navigation (Marine) 13-
1 5) TF Longship
3 6) Evaluate Treasure 12-
3 7) Stealth 12-
3 8) Climbing 12-
8 9) Survival (Arctic/Subarctic, Marine, Temperate/Subtropical) 13-
4 10) WF: Common Melee Weapons, Common Missile Weapons
5 11) +1 with HTH Combat
3 12) +1 with Swords
3 13) Tactics 12-
3 Traveler
2 1) AK: All seas traversed by Vikings 12-
2 2) AK: England 12-
2 3) AK: France 12-
1 4) AK: Helgeland 11-
3 5) AK: Scandinavia 13-
3 6) CK: Oslo 13-
Languages
4 1) Language: Norse (idiomatic)
2 2) Language: Anglo Saxon (completely fluent)
2 3) Language: Frankish (completely fluent)
1 4) Language: Runes (Literate)

Total Powers & Skill Cost: 98
Total Cost: 150

75+ Disadvantages
10 Reputation: Horrible, 11-
5 Hunted: Tax Collectors 8- (As Pow, They never follow when he goes viking, But they know where he lives, Mildly Punish)
5 Social Limitation: Married to Helga (Occasionally, Minor)
15 Unluck: 3d6
10 Dependent NPC: Honi and Hamlet 8- (Slightly Less Powerful than the PC; Group DNPC: x2 DNPCs)
10 Physical Limitation: Horns fall off if he lies. (Infrequently, Greatly Impairing)
15 Psychological Limitation: Comic Viking (Common, Strong)
5 Rivalry: Professional (Atilla the Hun; Rival is As Powerful; Seek to Outdo, Embarrass, or Humiliate Rival; Rival Aware of Rivalry)

Total Disadvantage Points: 75

Background/History: In 1973 cartoonist Dik Browne introduced the world to a Viking who would become as well known as Erik the Red and Leif the Lucky put together. Today Chris Browne, the son of the original cartoonist, continues Hagar's saga in comics pages published in over a dozen languages and distributed around the world in lands even the far ranging Norse explorers of yore never dreamed existed. Hagar the Horrible ostensibly lives in Oslo, Norway, some time during the "Viking Age" but his world is an ahistorical generic "medieval" world in which he can fight Atilla the Hun one week, and meet Robin Hood or King Arthur the next.

Personality/Motivation: Hagar is a comic strip Viking. When considering what he may do in any situation, a foremost consideration is what would be funny, or what would be most likely to have the most humorous outcome. If he must choose for example between attacking a castle or raiding a wizard's tower, he's off to seige the wizard - since Hagar and his hapless band interacting with unpredictable magical defenses and curses is more likely to provide laughs than a straightforward assault on a castle. If he must choose between looting a storehouse of food and wine or rustling a herd of sheep, he'll remember hearing a rumor that sheep are in demand in Helgeland - because a herd of sheep aboard a longship is bound to be good for a few laughs. He'll conform to Viking stereotype when it's funny (such as wearing the historically inaccurate horned helmet - all the time - and so does his wife, kids, dog, duck....) and subvert the stereotype when THAT is what's funny.

Quote: As you journey through life take a minute every now and then to give a thought for the other fellow. He could be plotting something.

Powers/Tactics: Although not the hero of song and saga he wishes to be, nor as bloodthirsty as his reputation suggests, Hagar does know how to use a sword. He even knows enough tactics to know that one should pillage THEN burn - it's just that in the heat of the moment he may forget.

Hagar has a longship and crew, which have not been statted out in this write up.

Campaign Use: Built on 75 pts plus 75 Disads, Hagar could be a player character in a Fantasy Hero game that is much less serious than most, or comic relief in a more serious but still fantastic type of game. Or by simply changing the Disadvantages Hagar can be made into a perfectly serious and straightforward barbarian leader.

Appearance: Overweight, red haired and red bearded Viking, complete with horned helm.

Hagar the Horrible created by Dik Browne.

Character sheet created by

Lucius Alexander

Copyright palindromedary Enterprises

lemming
Jul 20th, '09, 06:51 PM
http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32067&stc=1&d=1248144669

bubba smith
Jul 21st, '09, 01:38 AM
we're off to SEIGETHE WIZARD??? yowza

L. Marcus
Jul 21st, '09, 03:46 AM
Some days, I imagine Helga would be a Hunted. :)

Alibear
Jul 21st, '09, 04:00 AM
Nice write up.

azato
Jul 21st, '09, 04:38 AM
Has the Hagar strip been "reinvented"?


http://www.herogames.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32067&stc=1&d=1248144669

bubba smith
Jul 21st, '09, 06:08 AM
looks more like a SHOE comic strip version of HAGAR

LoresLost
Jul 21st, '09, 06:22 AM
Has the Hagar strip been "reinvented"?

It was the April fools version that was done by a different Artist, Wiley Miller to be exact (http://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/) I like Wiley's Art and his comic Non Sequitur is funny, in a weird way (Captain Obvious any one). Note the written statement between the frames.

lemming
Jul 21st, '09, 12:28 PM
Thanks LoresLost. less typing for me. :D

Lucius
Jul 21st, '09, 06:14 PM
Some days, I imagine Helga would be a Hunted. :)

Hm, you may be right....

Lucius Alexander

The palindromedary notes that this is already the second version of the character...

bubba smith
Jul 22nd, '09, 01:42 AM
It was the April fools version that was done by a different Artist, Wiley Miller to be exact (http://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/) I like Wiley's Art and his comic Non Sequitur is funny, in a weird way (Captain Obvious any one). Note the written statement between the frames.
i cuoyln' turn my head enough to read it what'd it say

GhoulMaster
Jul 22nd, '09, 02:56 AM
"Horns fall off"????

Say what??

Hugh Neilson
Jul 22nd, '09, 05:20 AM
Some days, I imagine Helga would be a Hunted. :)

How about a Watched? Hagar's biggest concern is typically that she'll find out what he's up to.

L. Marcus
Jul 22nd, '09, 09:52 AM
"Que sera, sera."

*wham!*

"Who's Sarah?!"

GhoulMaster
Jul 23rd, '09, 01:48 AM
How about Lucky Eddie? Is he a DNPC? Follower?

bubba smith
Jul 23rd, '09, 01:54 AM
Dnpc

Hugh Neilson
Jul 23rd, '09, 05:11 AM
I thought about him, but I think he's part of the Longboat crew in the writeup.

IndianaJoe3
Jul 24th, '09, 08:49 AM
How about Lucky Eddie? Is he a DNPC? Follower?

Follower. I don't remember Hagar ever getting into a situation because of him. I also recall him having amazing tracking ability.

bubba smith
Jul 24th, '09, 12:03 PM
in the strip i think he's the first mate and right hand man

Enforcer84
Jul 24th, '09, 01:38 PM
awesome

Hugh Neilson
Jul 25th, '09, 05:05 AM
Maybe Eddie's another PC - not someone you pay points for, but a teammate. He's typically only around if Hagar's adventuring, not when he's with the family.

Lucius
Jul 25th, '09, 06:19 AM
"Horns fall off"????

Say what??

I'm not sure how long that's been a running gag, or if it's a curse that was put on him or what.

Anone who wants to write up Lucky Eddie, the Longboat, or anyone from the family or the crew, feel free. Personally I see Lucky Eddie as either a Follower or just another Player Character.

Lucius Alexander

The palindromedary notes that aside from the first mate and that guy Dirty Dirk, Hagar's crew is mostly anonymous aren't they?

austenandrews
Jul 26th, '09, 07:23 PM
The palindromedary notes that aside from the first mate and that guy Dirty Dirk, Hagar's crew is mostly anonymous aren't they?
I think the term is "consistently expendable."

FenrisUlf
Jul 28th, '09, 10:23 AM
Some days, I imagine Helga would be a Hunted. :)

Shje sure did a good job in a comic-book length adventure (I once had a collection of Hagar stories that functioned like a graphic novel) in which Helga sent Hagar off to find a husband for Honi.

Hagar, to his delight, finds an entire convention of bachelors ("This will be a cinch, boys!... What do single men know about fighting?"). At the convention, he rejects several men until he finds a younger, slimmer version of himself. He brings Hagar II back home, only for the horrifed Helga to kick them both out. "But LOOK at him honey! He's a prize!" "I look at him and see what I got -- the consolation prize!"

FenrisUlf
Jul 28th, '09, 10:24 AM
Anone who wants to write up Lucky Eddie... feel free. Personally I see Lucky Eddie as either a Follower or just another Player Character.

Lucius Alexander



Right now the main thing I remember about Lucky Eddie is that he should have at least 5 dice of Unluck.

Lucius
Jul 28th, '09, 04:53 PM
Right now the main thing I remember about Lucky Eddie is that he should have at least 5 dice of Unluck.

Maybe he's just the special effect of Hagar's unluck...'

Lucius Alexander

The palindromedary redefines Lucius as a special effect..

Michael Hopcroft
Jul 29th, '09, 12:35 PM
"Lucky Eddie laughs at Danger!"
"Lucky Eddie laughs at everything...."

Katherine
Jul 29th, '09, 02:35 PM
Hagar the Horrible
Val Char Cost Roll Notes
15 STR 5 12- Lift 200.0kg; 3d6 [1]
14 DEX 12 12- OCV: 5/DCV: 5
18 CON 16 13-
10 BODY 0 11-
13 INT 3 12- PER Roll 12-
11 EGO 2 11- ECV: 4
15 PRE 5 12- PRE Attack: 3d6
10 COM 0 11-

4 PD 1 Total: 4 PD (0 rPD)
4 ED 0 Total: 4 ED (0 rED)
3 SPD 6 Phases: 4, 8, 12
7 REC 0
36 END 0
27 STUN 0 Total Characteristic Cost: 52

Movement:
Running: 7"/14"
Leaping: 2"/4"
Swimming: 3"/6"

Cost Powers END
15 Luck 3d6

Perks
0 Longship and Crew

Talents
12 Combat Luck (6 PD/6 ED)

Skills
The Gothic Arts of Pillaging, Pilfering, Sacking, Looting, Ravaging and Plundering
3 1) PS: Viking Captain 12-
3 2) Oratory 12-
3 3) Concealment 12-
4 4) Navigation (Marine) 13-
1 5) TF Longship
3 6) Evaluate Treasure 12-
3 7) Stealth 12-
3 8) Climbing 12-
8 9) Survival (Arctic/Subarctic, Marine, Temperate/Subtropical) 13-
4 10) WF: Common Melee Weapons, Common Missile Weapons
5 11) +1 with HTH Combat
3 12) +1 with Swords
3 13) Tactics 12-
3 Traveler
2 1) AK: All seas traversed by Vikings 12-
2 2) AK: England 12-
2 3) AK: France 12-
1 4) AK: Helgeland 11-
3 5) AK: Scandinavia 13-
3 6) CK: Oslo 13-
Languages
4 1) Language: Norse (idiomatic)
2 2) Language: Anglo Saxon (completely fluent)
2 3) Language: Frankish (completely fluent)
1 4) Language: Runes (Literate)

Total Powers & Skill Cost: 98
Total Cost: 150

75+ Disadvantages
10 Reputation: Horrible, 11-
5 Hunted: Tax Collectors 8- (As Pow, They never follow when he goes viking, But they know where he lives, Mildly Punish)
5 Social Limitation: Married to Helga (Occasionally, Minor)
15 Unluck: 3d6
10 Dependent NPC: Honi and Hamlet 8- (Slightly Less Powerful than the PC; Group DNPC: x2 DNPCs)
10 Physical Limitation: Horns fall off if he lies. (Infrequently, Greatly Impairing)
15 Psychological Limitation: Comic Viking (Common, Strong)
5 Rivalry: Professional (Atilla the Hun; Rival is As Powerful; Seek to Outdo, Embarrass, or Humiliate Rival; Rival Aware of Rivalry)

Total Disadvantage Points: 75

Background/History: In 1973 cartoonist Dik Browne introduced the world to a Viking who would become as well known as Erik the Red and Leif the Lucky put together. Today Chris Browne, the son of the original cartoonist, continues Hagar's saga in comics pages published in over a dozen languages and distributed around the world in lands even the far ranging Norse explorers of yore never dreamed existed. Hagar the Horrible ostensibly lives in Oslo, Norway, some time during the "Viking Age" but his world is an ahistorical generic "medieval" world in which he can fight Atilla the Hun one week, and meet Robin Hood or King Arthur the next.

Personality/Motivation: Hagar is a comic strip Viking. When considering what he may do in any situation, a foremost consideration is what would be funny, or what would be most likely to have the most humorous outcome. If he must choose for example between attacking a castle or raiding a wizard's tower, he's off to seige the wizard - since Hagar and his hapless band interacting with unpredictable magical defenses and curses is more likely to provide laughs than a straightforward assault on a castle. If he must choose between looting a storehouse of food and wine or rustling a herd of sheep, he'll remember hearing a rumor that sheep are in demand in Helgeland - because a herd of sheep aboard a longship is bound to be good for a few laughs. He'll conform to Viking stereotype when it's funny (such as wearing the historically inaccurate horned helmet - all the time - and so does his wife, kids, dog, duck....) and subvert the stereotype when THAT is what's funny.

Quote: As you journey through life take a minute every now and then to give a thought for the other fellow. He could be plotting something.

Powers/Tactics: Although not the hero of song and saga he wishes to be, nor as bloodthirsty as his reputation suggests, Hagar does know how to use a sword. He even knows enough tactics to know that one should pillage THEN burn - it's just that in the heat of the moment he may forget.

Hagar has a longship and crew, which have not been statted out in this write up.

Campaign Use: Built on 75 pts plus 75 Disads, Hagar could be a player character in a Fantasy Hero game that is much less serious than most, or comic relief in a more serious but still fantastic type of game. Or by simply changing the Disadvantages Hagar can be made into a perfectly serious and straightforward barbarian leader.

Appearance: Overweight, red haired and red bearded Viking, complete with horned helm.

Hagar the Horrible created by Dik Browne.

Character sheet created by

Lucius Alexander

Copyright palindromedary Enterprises

That's an amusing write up :)


we're off to SEIGETHE WIZARD??? yowza

Ow. I didn't catch that :D

Lucius
Jul 29th, '09, 05:02 PM
we're off to SEIGE THE WIZARD??? yowza



Ow. I didn't catch that :D

We're off to seige the wizard, the Wonderful Wizard of Id!

Seriously, I'd love to see an Id/Hagar crossover - maybe they can even team up against Atilla the Hun...

Lucius Alexander

The palindromedary wonders if Lucius will eventually acquire The Ultimate Base and write up the Kingdom of Id

L. Marcus
Jul 30th, '09, 03:22 AM
I wouldn't go there. It's a silly place.

Ranxerox
Jul 31st, '09, 05:16 PM
OK, I apologize for quibbling, but given that Hagar is a large guy, and he regularly shows up at the doctor's office with multiple arrows sticking out of him with no lasting effect, I think that I would give him more than 10 Body.

Lucius
Jul 31st, '09, 05:47 PM
OK, I apologize for quibbling, but given that Hagar is a large guy, and he regularly shows up at the doctor's office with multiple arrows sticking out of him with no lasting effect, I think that I would give him more than 10 Body.

You have a point, although I will point out that he has Combat Luck totalling 6 PD and ED and could therefore have several arrows sticking in him that failed to seriously wound him. For a comic strip viking, having arrows sticking out of you but failing to take BOD damage could be a special effect of Combat Luck.

However, possible tweaks include changing Tactics to a Familiarity and/or dropping the INT and buying up BOD.

Lucius Alexander

The palindromedary asks if I know what tomorrow is.

Ranxerox
Jul 31st, '09, 06:07 PM
Good point about the combat luck. So I guess my argument boils down to him being large, but like I said I'm quibbling.

Lucius
Aug 1st, '09, 06:30 AM
Good point about the combat luck. So I guess my argument boils down to him being large, but like I said I'm quibbling.

I welcome it. I'm not the world's authority on Hagar, and I take discussion as a sign that people are interested in the character write up I did.

Heck, Susano IS the Authority on character adaptations, and I often see little things in his characters I'm not sure are quite right or that I'd have done differently.

In particular I'm sure there are a thousand valid ways to write up the Disadvantages for Hagar. Does Atilla show up often enough to count? Is he a Rival or Hunted? Should Helga be a Hunted: Watching? Should he have even more Unluck, with a note Special Effect: Lucky Eddie, his First Mate?

Lucius Alexander

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