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cjudisch
Feb 24th, '03, 10:53 AM
Am I missing something?

I've got: Conquerers Killers & Crooks, Champions, & Champions Universe but i can't seem to find stats for Oculon anywhere.

Are they in one of these books and I'm just not seeing it?
Are they in a yet to be released book?
Is the youth I misspent following the Greatful Dead around the contry finally catching up to me?

Just wondering...

MisterVimes
Feb 24th, '03, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by cjudisch
Am I missing something?

I've got: Conquerers Killers & Crooks, Champions, & Champions Universe but i can't seem to find stats for Occulon anywhere.

Is it in one of these books and I'm just not seeing it?
Is it in a yet to be released book?
Is the youth I misspent following the Greatful Dead around finally catching up to me?

Just wondering...

Didn't he grow up to be Holocaust?

Monolith
Feb 24th, '03, 10:56 AM
Steve said that Oculon will be in the VIPER source book.

cjudisch
Feb 24th, '03, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Monolith
Steve said that Oculon will be in the VIPER source book.

Coolness. Glad to know I'm not going crazy. Thanks!

Monolith
Feb 24th, '03, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by cjudisch
Coolness. Glad to know I'm not going crazy. Thanks!
Steve also mentioned that Halfjack and Ripper will also be in VIPER, but I do not remember him mentioning any other names.

Monolith
Feb 24th, '03, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by MisterVimes
Didn't he grow up to be Holocaust?
No. Those Hzeel eyes keep him from growing older. He will forever be a thug. :)

MisterVimes
Feb 24th, '03, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by Monolith
No. Those Hzeel eyes keep him from growing older. He will forever be a thug. :)

:D I'd heard a rumor that Holocaust and Oculon had sort of been fused. Glad to hear that Ripper will be back, he was one of my favs.

Monolith
Feb 24th, '03, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by MisterVimes
:D I'd heard a rumor that Holocaust and Oculon had sort of been fused. Glad to hear that Ripper will be back, he was one of my favs.
Back in the days before fire there were whispered rumors that Holocaust was a mature Oculon, but that was in the fictitious Champions Universe. Not the real one. :)

MisterVimes
Feb 24th, '03, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by Monolith
Back in the days before fire there were whispered rumors that Holocaust was a mature Oculon, but that was in the fictitious Champions Universe. Not the real one. :)

I must remember 'cause I'm older than dirt.

I thought maybe it was a Retcon. I remeber (the then un-named) Holocaust on the cover of Champions and Enemies and then I bought the cardboard heroes (or whatever they were) for Champions and remember him having the name Holocaust on his card... ah the history we share... You don't get those kinds of stories with games these days.

Acroyear
Feb 24th, '03, 11:56 AM
He's still Halfjack?

How hard is it to find half a cyborg body, anyway? :p

He's Fulljack in the campaign thingy I been working on.

Steve Long
Feb 24th, '03, 01:05 PM
As a couple folx mentioned, Oculon works for VIPER now. So do Halfjack, Freon, and Ripper, and some other old favorites that haven't yet made an appearance. But for that matter, so do some new baddies y'all ain't never seen before. They'll all be in the VIPER Sourcebook coming out later this year. ;)