What Genre book Reprint are you most anticipating?

[redwulfe]

The title says it all. What genre book reprint are you most anticipating? And of course why?

I am looking forward to Star Hero. For me this is the closest thing I have to my favorite Hero book of all time Cyber Hero. Sadly it never came out for 5th. I still love me some hard core Cyberpunk. Though I hope that start Hero gives a good amount of space to this sub genre so I can just work from there.

Red

[mayapuppies]

Ultimate Base then Fantasy Hero

[Susano]

The title says it all. What genre book reprint are you most anticipating? And of course why?

I am looking forward to Star Hero. For me this is the closest thing I have to my favorite Hero book of all time Cyber Hero. Sadly it never came out for 5th. I still love me some hard core Cyberpunk. Though I hope that start Hero gives a good amount of space to this sub genre so I can just work from there.

Red

Check out Kazei 5, coming later this month, or early December, for 320 pages of cyberpunk goodness (look in the Other Genres to find out more).

Now, as for genre books... I'm really undecided. Unless there is something radically different or new in the book, I'm not sure I personally see the need to replace any of my 5E genre books. I will be getting Hero System Martial Arts, but seeing as I'm assisting on that, that's a given. :D

I might look into Star Hero... but am more interested in seeing what Darren will do with Horror Hero and Golden Age of Champions.

[redwulfe]

Check out Kazei 5, coming later this month, or early December, for 320 pages of cyberpunk goodness (look in the Other Genres to find out more).

Nice! I didn't get a chance to look at the original but I am looking forward to getting this when it comes out. I do however want Hero to come out with a book that covers the genre from a more generalized perspective rather than one based in a specific setting.

Red

[Susano]

Nice! I didn't get a chance to look at the original but I am looking forward to getting this when it comes out. I do however want Hero to come out with a book that covers the genre from a more generalized perspective rather than one based in a specific setting.

Red

Steve's mentioned he's researching such a book.

[ghost-angel]

All of them except Champions, really. And even that one a little bit.

[culhwch]

I'd have to say Fantasy Hero. I can't imagine there'd be much difference from the 5th Edition version, but I have this Psych Lim: Completist (I own all previous editions of FH, so not getting the 6e version just doesn't seem likely). Champions would be a close second (for the same reason).

[Chris Goodwin]

I'd have to say Fantasy Hero. I can't imagine there'd be much difference from the 5th Edition version, but I have this Psych Lim: Completist (I own all previous editions of FH, so not getting the 6e version just doesn't seem likely). Champions would be a close second (for the same reason).

For me it's Fantasy Hero and Star Hero, for the same reasons. Pulp and Dark probably not far after. Not too sure on Champions; I've been playing Champions forever, and already have three books with that title on them. Completeness' sake might drive me to buy it, but the economy is such that I'm going to be pretty limited on books I will buy but not use.

[Jomster]

I'm a big fan of all the genre books to be honest, but if pushed would probably put FH first as it is well suited to the toolkit aspect of Hero due to spell/monster construction and reading through the rules is a nice way to reconsider various approaches to builds and so forth.

Following the spirit of naming the 6E books simply though, so that distributors etc understand what they are, I would seriously consider renaming Dark Champions. Keep the cover though, it's spot on! :)

[Susano]

I'm a big fan of all the genre books to be honest, but if pushed would probably put FH first as it is well suited to the toolkit aspect of Hero due to spell/monster construction and reading through the rules is a nice way to reconsider various approaches to builds and so forth.

Following the spirit of naming the 6E books simply though, so that distributors etc understand what they are, I would seriously consider renaming Dark Champions. Keep the cover though, it's spot on! :)

Dark Champions has been Dark Champions for... what? 20 years? I don't think the name will change. If it did... it needs to be Danger International.

[Chris Goodwin]

Dark Champions has been Dark Champions for... what? 20 years? I don't think the name will change. If it did... it needs to be Danger International.

Now would be the time to change it; in fact, I almost brought that up. Justice, Inc. became Pulp Hero... I suggest Modern Hero.

[Susano]

It does keep the xyz Hero convention....

[Tasha]

The title says it all. What genre book reprint are you most anticipating? And of course why?

I am looking forward to Star Hero. For me this is the closest thing I have to my favorite Hero book of all time Cyber Hero. Sadly it never came out for 5th. I still love me some hard core Cyberpunk. Though I hope that start Hero gives a good amount of space to this sub genre so I can just work from there.

Red

I am looking forward to Champions. 5e Champions was kind of anemic esp when compared to the later sourcebooks. Also I am really looking forward to what Steve Long has to say about the genre (5e was written by Aaron Allston who is great, but not SL).

Hero System Martial Arts. This one needs to be created fast. I really look forward to the update

Hero System Equipment: Also a book that needs a 6e update. All of the guns and weapons. Hopefully with a good collection of non-combat items for all genres.

Kazai 5 should also be a fun read. Susano has a great view the Anime Cyberpunk genre. The update it should be great!

An update the Until Superpowers books will also be welcome. I am hoping that it will be more than an update to the power mechanics. I wouldn't mind seeing new takes on the powers.

A Champions Online Superpowers book would also be cool. Going over all of the powersets and how you would recreate them in Hero :D

Ultimate Base should be cool. That's a book that's been a long time coming!

[Chris Goodwin]

Anything that is crunch (lists of Powers, package deals/templates, and so forth) will need to be redone. Anything that is primarily fluff (how to design a fantasy world, GMing advice, etc.) won't.

Hmmm. Suggestion; split them into two volumes? Crunch and fluff. Would mean that from here on out, only the crunch books need to be updated.

[Tasha]

Now would be the time to change it; in fact, I almost brought that up. Justice, Inc. became Pulp Hero... I suggest Modern Hero.

With the Champions name in the label it seems to skew toward super agents (ie Shield) and not James Bond or Police Drama.

Though with the Champions Online tie in, they may decide to keep Champions in the name to attract CO gamers.

This could be taken to extremes ie Space Champions, Champions Fantasy, Pulp Champions. It would reduce the Hero Games Brand to rename products that way and shouldn't be done.

I really do like the naming scheme of Genre Hero. It makes good sense and for all but one genre make for books that are evocative and not silly (ex Horror Hero, say that 3 times fast LOL ).

Lets stop the derail here, and make a new topic if we wish to discuss the name schema of Hero Genre books

Tasha

[Nevenall]

Anything that is crunch (lists of Powers, package deals/templates, and so forth) will need to be redone. Anything that is primarily fluff (how to design a fantasy world, GMing advice, etc.) won't.

Hmmm. Suggestion; split them into two volumes? Crunch and fluff. Would mean that from here on out, only the crunch books need to be updated.

Interesting idea. The crunchy stuff is usually all I care about anyway.

I'm looking forward to reading the new Star Hero because the 5th edition one was well written and informative about science stuff, and Kazai 5 because my next campaign will be based around Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex.

[Susano]

Interesting idea. The crunchy stuff is usually all I care about anyway.

I'm looking forward to reading the new Star Hero because the 5th edition one was well written and informative about science stuff, and Kazai 5 because my next campaign will be based around Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex.

Heh... K5 is pretty much GITS the RPG... well, almost GITS the RPG. I'll freely admit the cyberhacking rules are based on things seen in GITS II: Innocence.

[redwulfe]

Now I really want this book, I love GITS.

Red

[Nevenall]

Heh... K5 is pretty much GITS the RPG... well, almost GITS the RPG. I'll freely admit the cyberhacking rules are based on things seen in GITS II: Innocence.

That's very exciting. I always liked the style of Cyberpunk as a genre but it never really had any depth for me until I saw Stand Alone Complex.

[Duke Bushido]

Star Hero.

I'll get what I can afford along and along, as always, but that's the biggie-- the "must have" for me.

[The Rose]

What Genre book do I most yearn to see in print again (does it have to have been in print in 5th)?

Mine is Horror HERO. Dark Champions and Star HERO being two close seconds.

La Rose

PS: The Rose will shamelessly plug Horror HERO until (and most definitely after) it comes out in 6e. :D.

[Chris Goodwin]

What Genre book do I most yearn to see in print again (does it have to have been in print in 5th)?

Easy peasy for me. Robot Warriors.

But everyone knew I was going to say that. :lol:

[BobGreenwade]

Right now I'm writing mostly superhero stuff, and much of my superhero stuff is heavily influenced by the conventions of Dark Champions and Horror Hero, so I'd lean toward those two books.

[Alibear]

Easy peasy for me. Robot Warriors.

But everyone knew I was going to say that. :lol:

I was browsing my copy of that on the throne just last night and thinking that it's about time we got a new version. That and Cowboy Hero stand out for me as missing from 5.

I'm not sure I'm gonna replace any of the 5th genre books anyway.

[Susano]

I was browsing my copy of that on the throne just last night and thinking that it's about time we got a new version. That and Cowboy Hero stand out for me as missing from 5.

I'm not sure I'm gonna replace any of the 5th genre books anyway.

Correction -- Western Hero.

I'm pretty sure Steve has said that while he'd love to do a Western-themed book, it wouldn't sell well enough to make the investment worthwhile.

But... you never know.

[archermoo]

Correction -- Western Hero.

I'm pretty sure Steve has said that while he'd love to do a Western-themed book, it wouldn't sell well enough to make the investment worthwhile.

But... you never know.

My recollection as well. He wouldn't do it if he couldn't do it right, and doing it right would take a fair amount of his time. And for the most part Western themed games don't sell particularly well.

[Killer Shrike]

Im not really looking forward to any of the genre books. I find much more value in core books that expand the system like Ultimate Skill, Ultimate Martial Artist, etc. Ultimate Base could be interesting; that's the next one I'm looking forward to.

[Panpiper]

I am primarily a fantasy player and very behind the times in the rules. I have a lot to catch up on. So Fantasy Hero is certainly the one I would be most interested in. The copy of Fantasy Hero that I have on my shelf is the first printing. ;-) That said, by the time it comes out, I expect I will be fully caught up, thanks to the efforts of Killer Shrike and others who create so much content and share it with us on line.

[Alibear]

Correction -- Western Hero.

I'm pretty sure Steve has said that while he'd love to do a Western-themed book, it wouldn't sell well enough to make the investment worthwhile.

But... you never know.

I know it was Western Hero 4th ed (one of my favourite hero products ever) but I think Cowboy Hero would be a better name.

[archermoo]

I know it was Western Hero 4th ed (one of my favourite hero products ever) but I think Cowboy Hero would be a better name.

There is a lot more to the West than just Cowboys.

[Duke Bushido]

Cowboy Hero stand out for me as missing from 5.

:rofl:

It's funny: I just hunted this thread down to make the "Western Hero" suggestion myself! :D We didn't see it for 5e, and that 4e sitting on my shelf is getting mighty lonely.... ;)

[Alibear]

There is a lot more to the West than just Cowboys.

Sure but Farmer Hero just doesnae do it for me somehow ;)

[Alibear]

The other thing I'd like to see is War Hero!

A look at WWII. The main players, troop types, weaponary, tactics.

A bit like Western Hero in layout with real life charcter write ups and advice and running a campaign for a squad etc.

I'd like an overview of what happened and why, some maps of important actions and the like.

[Hierax]

Yeah, Western Hero not having made 5e at all makes it the most anticipated, but sadly looks like it's not to be so Hero System Rules and Kenzer's Aces & Eights stuff looks like as close as I'll come to seeing that one :( (unless I can win a lottery and commission Steve Long to write it profits be damned!)

Horror Hero is the other huge genre that 5e inexplicably skipped over, but hopefully 6e won't be as negligent in that regard.

Fantasy Hero is, of course, the big one (for me much much bigger than Champions) but at least that one at least I know will come to 6e.

Those are the big 3 for me, but Kanzei 5 and Martial Hero are close behind. The suggestion for War Hero is a great one though that would be impossible to resist.

[GestaltBennie]

Pulp, followed by Star here.

[jtelson]

Dark Champions and Pulp, followed by Fantasy.

[redwulfe]

War Hero? I think that is a great idea. I would probably not call it War Hero though. I thinks a series of books that have historical information to supplement the current lines is very good though. If Golden age heroes ever comes out then a supplement dedicated to WWII would be a great buy, especially if it gives Hero states to all of the vehicle sand weapons of the time.

Red

[Susano]

Yeah, Western Hero not having made 5e at all makes it the most anticipated, but sadly looks like it's not to be so Hero System Rules and Kenzer's Aces & Eights stuff looks like as close as I'll come to seeing that one :( (unless I can win a lottery and commission Steve Long to write it profits be damned!)

Horror Hero is the other huge genre that 5e inexplicably skipped over, but hopefully 6e won't be as negligent in that regard.

There wasn't a 5E Horror Hero for several reasons. One is that Steve said he didn't feel confident writing such as book (I don't think horror is his thing). Two, the one person they know could do a great job, Kenneth Hite, didn't feel he know Hero well enough to do it justice. So, Darren is going to develop the book.


Fantasy Hero is, of course, the big one (for me much much bigger than Champions) but at least that one at least I know will come to 6e.

Those are the big 3 for me, but Kanzei 5 and Martial Hero are close behind. The suggestion for War Hero is a great one though that would be impossible to resist.

It's "Kazei" 5. Also, there will be no Ninja Hero/Martial Hero for 6E. What there will be is Hero System Martial Arts, which will be one of the core 6E books (the others being the 6E rules, the Advanced Players Guide, the Hero System Bestiary, and the Hero System Equipment Guide... and maybe some other stuff).

[Ninja-Bear]

Just a question on the hero system martial arts book. Are you (Susano and Steve Long) going have a thread on the dicussion board for our input? Its not that I don't think you two are great writers, I just have some suggestions I'd like to post. Whether or not you use them is a different story. :)

[jtelson]

Is there a list of the Hero Genre books that are currently being planned?

[ghost-angel]

Sure but Farmer Hero just doesnae do it for me somehow ;)

Consider that Cowboys are generally a Post-Civil War thing, you only catch half the nineteenth cetury.

Western Hero evokes Cowboys & Outlaws, but you can move it around a bit;
-You can slice American Steampunk (as opposed to Victorian Steampunk) anywhere from 1802-1900 (Louisianna Purchase onwards and Manifest Destiny).
-Civil War, the 1860s have all kinds of fun things you can do that aren't Wild West.
-Western Expansion, dealing with European Settlers and Indians. From both sides of that equation.
-The Long Depression during the 1880s and 1890s probably isn't the best gaming fodder, but it gave rise to the Haunted Victorian Manor myths we have today. So you can slice in a sort of Western Horror note there.


Is there a list of the Hero Genre books that are currently being planned?

I don't think there's a list, but I know Steve has said they probably won't be redoing Pulp; and are definitely redoing Champions and Fantasy. I think they're also updating Star Hero and Dark Champions; though I don't know where the last one stands since Crypitc owns "Dark Champions" and that the 5E book definitely was not superheroes.

[Susano]

Just a question on the hero system martial arts book. Are you (Susano and Steve Long) going have a thread on the dicussion board for our input? Its not that I don't think you two are great writers, I just have some suggestions I'd like to post. Whether or not you use them is a different story. :)

As far as I know, no. However, you could post such a question to Steve and let him decide.

[Susano]

I don't think there's a list, but I know Steve has said they probably won't be redoing Pulp; and are definitely redoing Champions and Fantasy. I think they're also updating Star Hero and Dark Champions; though I don't know where the last one stands since Crypitc owns "Dark Champions" and that the 5E book definitely was not superheroes.

Darren is developing Horror Hero and Golden Age of Champions.

[Steve Long]

OK, let me clear up a few misconceptions and provide additional useful info. ;)

I'm already working on a new Champions, and FH has already been announced. We will definitely redo Star Hero. Horror Hero is sort of in the works, but at this point is more likely to remain a "when it's done we'll put it on a schedule, and not before" sort of project to keep deadline pressure off the authors, who have other responsibilities that are more important.

We don't have any specific plans at this point to re-do Dark Champions, since I don't think a rework is crucial. Ultimately it's likely to depend on what Cryptic does and wants; if they begin a major focus on Hudson City at some point, revamping the DC stuff becomes more likely.

We have no plans to re-do Pulp Hero at this point; it's relatively rules-light and really doesn't need it. If and when we run out of copies, we might consider it.

As I've said many times, I would love (love, love, love) to do Western Hero. unfortunately it wouldn't come close to earning the money it would have to earn to justify the 3-4 months it would take to write -- in less than a month I could write a Champions or FH supplement that would be easier to create and sell much better. (And please don't suggest that I delegate some of the work or research to others; even if that were feasible [and it isn't], it absolutely is not going to happen.) If we changed the title (which we're not going to do), it would be to Gunslinger Hero; I don't think "Cowboy Hero" works well as a title.

All of that I said about WH applies to Victorian Hero as well.

Cyber Hero would be fairly easy to do and will probably make it onto a schedule at some point. In fact, I've already done some research, though it's been sidelined by FH research.

Hope that helps. ;)

[jtelson]

Thanks, then I'll ammend my answer to Fantasy Hero followed by Star Hero

[ghost-angel]

Thanks Steve!

Good to get the straight info.

[Hugh Neilson]

As I've said many times, I would love (love, love, love) to do Western Hero. unfortunately it wouldn't come close to earning the money it would have to earn to justify the 3-4 months it would take to write -- in less than a month I could write a Champions or FH supplement that would be easier to create and sell much better. (And please don't suggest that I delegate some of the work or research to others; even if that were feasible [and it isn't], it absolutely is not going to happen.) If we changed the title (which we're not going to do), it would be to Gunslinger Hero; I don't think "Cowboy Hero" works well as a title.

All of that I said about WH applies to Victorian Hero as well.

This might make a goood Sticky - it seems like you get to re-post this every few months.

[ghost-angel]

I want wichever Genre book comes with the pin-ups and centerfold to be released first. . .

[Ninja-Bear]

As far as I know, no. However, you could post such a question to Steve and let him decide.

That's fine. Just means I'm going to have to buy a larger mindcontrol power. :D

[John Desmarais]

Reprint? Not quite but...



I WANT GOLDEN AGE CHAMPIONS!!!






Ok. I'm better now.

[Lord Liaden]

Since Champions was the first DOJ genre book, I expect it would benefit the most from the company's subsequent experience in how to produce such books.


Horror Hero is sort of in the works, but at this point is more likely to remain a "when it's done we'll put it on a schedule, and not before" sort of project to keep deadline pressure off the authors, who have other responsibilities that are more important.

Good to know this is in the pipeline, at least; it's the last major gaming genre that hasn't yet received the DOJ treatment. (I personally don't care for horror gaming, but there's almost certainly a market for a HERO product for the genre.)

[Susano]

Reprint? Not quite but...



I WANT GOLDEN AGE CHAMPIONS!!!






Ok. I'm better now.

You say something?

[Lord Liaden]

Reprint? Not quite but...



I WANT GOLDEN AGE CHAMPIONS!!!






Ok. I'm better now.

The above evidence suggests that's a questionable assertion. ;)

[Nolgroth]

Star HERO for me. I cannot remember reading any other roleplaying supplement that was as informative and enjoyable as the 5E version. I would love to see the information on stellar/planet formation updated with current theory. That is the only "must have" book for me at this point. The rest would have to be pretty spectacular for me to rush into them. I haven't cracked open any of the other genre books in over a year. My Star HERO copy is falling apart from use.

I will probably not buy another setting book from HERO at this point. I have 3/4 fantasy settings and both science fiction settings. I also have Hudson City for Dark Champions. Since I have, to date, been unimpressed with Cryptic's handling of the Champions IP, I doubt I would like what they have to say about Dark Champions. I also have the Last Dominion setting book and the Kamarathin: Kingdom of Tursh settings. Those two alone are worth their virtual weight in virtual gold.

[torchwolf]

I'm already working on a new Champions, and FH has already been announced. We will definitely redo Star Hero. Horror Hero is sort of in the works, but at this point is more likely to remain a "when it's done we'll put it on a schedule, and not before" sort of project to keep deadline pressure off the authors, who have other responsibilities that are more important.

Happily looking forward to the Champions book -as well as interested in a mostly Steve Long version? - and FH, though Horror Hero is in between those two on the top of my wishing list, closely followed by Golden Age of Champions (hoping that Darren Watts unexpectedly gets much extra time to do that). Oh, and Star Hero 6E is a must-have! :thumbup:


We don't have any specific plans at this point to re-do Dark Champions, since I don't think a rework is crucial. Ultimately it's likely to depend on what Cryptic does and wants; if they begin a major focus on Hudson City at some point, revamping the DC stuff becomes more likely.

Wonder what it'll be like, so I'm waiting a bit with my opinion on this.


We have no plans to re-do Pulp Hero at this point; it's relatively rules-light and really doesn't need it. If and when we run out of copies, we might consider it.

Sure it's rules-light, but would still be lovely to have a new version (in color, too?). ;)


As I've said many times, I would love (love, love, love) to do Western Hero. unfortunately it wouldn't come close to earning the money it would have to earn to justify the 3-4 months it would take to write -- in less than a month I could write a Champions or FH supplement that would be easier to create and sell much better. (And please don't suggest that I delegate some of the work or research to others; even if that were feasible [and it isn't], it absolutely is not going to happen.) If we changed the title (which we're not going to do), it would be to Gunslinger Hero; I don't think "Cowboy Hero" works well as a title.

All of that I said about WH applies to Victorian Hero as well.

Western Horror possibly combined with Victorian Hero or something like that?


Cyber Hero would be fairly easy to do and will probably make it onto a schedule at some point. In fact, I've already done some research, though it's been sidelined by FH research.

Curious about this, be interesting to see and it's bound to be 7000% or so better than the old one. :rolleyes:


Hope that helps. ;)

Nice to be updated. :)

[Lord Liaden]

Western Horror possibly combined with Victorian Hero or something like that?

Steve has put the kibosh on that proposal, I'm afraid:


I would love to do both Victorian Hero and Western Hero. However, we probably never will. They require far too much research and work for the tiny number of sales they'd generate. They're not 32-page PDFs; they're both books on the size and scope of Dark Champions or Pulp Hero, requiring months to write -- and both would likely sell less well than a casual Champions supplement I could write in a couple weeks with no real work at all.


I love Victorian and Western too much not to make 'em big, thick books. :eek:

[mallet]

My big question is: What is Hero Games going to publish past the next few years?

We know the immediate stuff: Champions, Villains ( volumes), Beastery, The Gear Book, Fantasy Hero, Star Hero, Martial Arts Hero, Champions Online RPG, Cyber Hero, Ultimate base, and...? I'm not sure what else has been announced or hinted at.

And that's great! (and a lot of work)

But what about after that? I believe they have said that they won't do any more setting books (Boo... I like the Hero's setting books), and no more Star Hero supplements (or is that genre supplements of any kind?), or adventures, etc...

So, after all the big books come out over the next two years, what will they be publishing? Without setting books & supplements to those setting books (which seems to be the life blood of most other game companies) or adventures (which also seem big for other companies, well at least for the D&D crowd), what direction is Hero Games going to take?

I'm sure they have ideas in mind, I just wish I knew what they were. I'm impatient like that. :)

[Hugh Neilson]

My big question is: What is Hero Games going to publish past the next few years?

We know the immediate stuff: Champions, Villains ( volumes), Beastery, The Gear Book, Fantasy Hero, Star Hero, Martial Arts Hero, Champions Online RPG, Cyber Hero, Ultimate base, and...? I'm not sure what else has been announced or hinted at.

And that's great! (and a lot of work)

But what about after that? I believe they have said that they won't do any more setting books (Boo... I like the Hero's setting books), and no more Star Hero supplements (or is that genre supplements of any kind?), or adventures, etc...

So, after all the big books come out over the next two years, what will they be publishing? Without setting books & supplements to those setting books (which seems to be the life blood of most other game companies) or adventures (which also seem big for other companies, well at least for the D&D crowd), what direction is Hero Games going to take?

Champions and Fantasy being the best selling lines, more supplements for these seem likely (Star Hero was a poor selling genre for supplements, so I don't think it's "of any kind").

But the real answer is probably 7e. The reality of RPG publishing at present is that, after the core rules, sales of future supplements trail off. Thus, to keep making sales, you have to keep reinventing the game with new editions. That's the economics of the business, at least as I understand it.

[Susano]

It was... ~8 years between 5E and 7E and something akin to 15 years between 4E and 5E. So, any possible 7E would be around 2017-2020.

Personally, I think that since DOJ sold the Champions IP to Cryptic/Atari, you're going to see a lot of Champions Universe books (akin to Book of the Machine, Book of the Destroyer, and Monster Island). Why? Because as Cryptic asks DOJ for more information on a part of the Champions Universe, DOJ will be able to make a book out of it.

I also think 3rd party products will help fill in some of the gaps.

[Hugh Neilson]

It was... ~8 years between 5E and 7E and something akin to 15 years between 4E and 5E. So, any possible 7E would be around 2017-2020.

I don't expect a new edition in under 5 years, and I think your timeframe is probably about right, although I'd expect closer to 2017 than 2020. A "faux edition" like 5er, which corrects the various typos and adds options from later books (other than APG fodder) seems reasonably likely some time in between


Personally, I think that since DOJ sold the Champions IP to Cryptic/Atari, you're going to see a lot of Champions Universe books (akin to Book of the Machine, Book of the Destroyer, and Monster Island). Why? Because as Cryptic asks DOJ for more information on a part of the Champions Universe, DOJ will be able to make a book out of it.

I expect to see a lot of supplements of this nature, for the reasons you note. There is a tie in to the online game, and both parties will want to leverage it. And, as you say, if the work is getting done anyway, why not make the most of it?

[megaplayboy]

Hmm. Hard to choose between Fashion Hero, Romantic Hero, and Toon Hero.:D

1st--Star Hero, with an incorporated (shorthand version) Galactic Federation used as the "sample" setting/tech writeups. Since GF is basically the closest thing to "Trek Hero", and integrates with Galactic Champs, I'd rather see that than a rehash of the TE stuff.
2nd--I'd like to see a genre book called "Action Hero", which would incorporate the genre conventions of action films and tv shows. There may be some overlap with Dark Champs, but I think the difference would be in tone. In the alternative, I'd like to see a name change for Dark Champs, so that it's clearly just one subgenre in the "modern action" genre.
3rd--I'd like to see subgenre books for "Modern Hero/Action Hero", like Conspiracy Hero, War Hero, Spy Hero, etc.

[archermoo]

My big question is: What is Hero Games going to publish past the next few years?


Well Hero releases an updated version of the current year's schedule and an initial version of the next years schedule every February at a panel at Dundracon. Which is then posted up here on the boards shortly thereafter. The 2009 and 2010 schedules are in the Company Questions forum, as will the 2011 schedule once it is available.

[ghost-angel]

Champions Beyond is coming down the line. I hope Profit & Purity still gets written sometime.

Updated Fantasy Grimoires is likely. It's quite possible the odd Non-Champions/Fantasy book will get published. I'm not exactly holding my breath on that one, but one a year would be nice.

[archermoo]

I don't expect a new edition in under 5 years, and I think your timeframe is probably about right, although I'd expect closer to 2017 than 2020. A "faux edition" like 5er, which corrects the various typos and adds options from later books (other than APG fodder) seems reasonably likely some time in between


To the best of my knowledge the folx at Hero never really considered 5er to be a new edition of the rules, faux or otherwise. They were changing printers for a new reprint of the core rules and so took the opportunity to roll the errata and some additional examples into the new book.

So yeah, it wouldn't surprise me at all if there were to be a 6er in the next 3-5 years.

[Peregrine]

Hmm. Hard to choose between Fashion Hero, Romantic Regency Hero, and Toon Hero.:D

Fixed it for you. ;)

[mayapuppies]

ok, so with the latest updates and such I'm looking at:

Ultimate Base
Kazei 5
Fantasy Hero
Hero System martial Arts

I should be pretty set with that for some time, at least as far as books we don't publish ourselves. :)

[tomd1969]

I would like the following, in no particular order:


Star Hero
Horror Hero
Champions
USPD
Ultimate Mystic (or the 6E equivalent)
Mystic World (or the 6E equivalent)

[kahuna's bro]

Reprint? Not quite but...



I WANT GOLDEN AGE CHAMPIONS!!!






Ok. I'm better now.
second the motion